NA overperformed in 2017. The main problem of the region is that they need to play with 3 "NA"-players (which also includes Bjergsen because of TSM bias by Riot) - and NA as a competitive region is just trash.
Oh my heart can't take this. TSM loses to MSF to end off week 1. IMT flops every game to start week 2. theScore esports just goes and pour salt over the wound not even a full 24 hrs after the fact
I'm glad TSM loss to MSF. Why? because NA does well week one because they don't know the strength of their group so they practice hard and try their hardest. Once they get 2-1 records they mental slack-off because they only need one win the next week. Since Group D is all 2-1 its basically the same of week 1 so they should go in the week with the same intensity( or even more). No mental slacking I hope.
Kevin Surjanto cloud 9 has almoat free group. They are paired with 2 c tier teams and one s+ tier. Tsm is more experienced than msf. Msf might upset them once but theyre not consistent and rookies to worlds. Msf is c tier i think G2 was euws best chance and A tier but samsung and rng are both S tier and title contenders. Tsm is A tier like g2 but We A tier too so theres def a big chance. Fw is d tier rn in international play. But both c9 and tsm should win their group. If msf beats tsm theyre really lucky
@@Lautaro-it9nd I mean, I made this comment 2 years ago m8, and they did make it out last year... so... not quite too sure what point you're trying to make
Wtf do you know that by NA import rules you can't have more than 2 imports unless they are exempted? All NA teams at worlds have at least 3 NA players. Just cause they're ethnically asian doesn't mean they weren't raised in America and began playing league in NA. NA is not made up of only white people, jesus.
All citizens in NA are basicly immigrants, except for the "indians". So what do you mean about: "Pobelter and xMithie maybe but they're not really NA, you can see that." Doesn't make sense at all. Explain please?
Let me just preface this by saying I have nothing against NA, it's just my opinion on the subject. To me if you grew up in NA (as in lived all/nearly all your life) then I wouldnt consider you an import, even if both your parents are idk from China or some country in Europe. But if you're like Bjerg and moved to NA to play on a team as an import, then I think you're still an import even if you've gotten the US citizenship and technically dont count as one anymore. I still consider Bjerg to be from Europe especially since he even played in the LCS there. And thats the only example I can give since I don't know the background of most other players
We all talking about import when FNC (5 Europeans) shit on IMT lmao... sometimes i wonder if it's necessary, sometimes i wonder if it's just fans trying to distract themselves with something else to wipe their tears. With Pobelter gone we can say already that there are not NA mids anymore, since they're all garbage.
Came here to marvel at how it's happened again all 3 teams out be4 quarters and they should learn to not talk trash before competitions because karma is a b*tch
trash talking is fine, it makes sports interesting to watch. 2 years now i have had to watch doublelift crash and burn watchign his team int around him
I feel bad for NA but after all that thresh talk about NA > EU it's better they come back to the ground and I hope they know their place now. I guess LCK while do the same to LPL before they get the insane idea they can win worlds.
I honestly think that bjerg is S/S+ midlaner and easily one of the best (if not the best) in NA (although granted his recent performance wasn't really something to write home about). The whole world is full of mechanically good players, even the wildcard regions that some people don't even know about. Korea (and china as well) are just much better at macro and playing the game as a team.
Made me relive the pain of watching my favorite team (c9) do that.... after the miracle run through the gauntlet. 2 years later and i finally got over it... till now.
When they do it every year"?! since c9 startet to compete in league of legends in 2013, they have made worlds equally often as tsm AND made it out of groups every year but 2015. tsm made it out once. once in 5 years. in a group with no koreans, SK Gaming with substitude jungler and TPA. not an achievement. not an achievement.
they got out of groups in season 1 and 2. but i just compared c9 to tsm and therefore didnt count season 1 and 2 because c9 wasnt even a team back then :)
These series are great. You guys should make more historic series, of more subjects. Adding historic understanding to the game feels so interesting, and your narration is great, I can see great potential in your channel.
Yes, release this video right in the middle of group stages, right after IMT goes 0-4. Who is the evil mastermind behind this? I like the video, but... why? Are we not already stressed enough? FeelsBadMan
Thought this was a new video reminiscing about the other time NA went winless in a week. Now after worlds 2022, where NA went 3-15 in groups overall and winless in week 1, at least I know some things never change lol
Its exactly what i've said when i've see this game. C9 is under coz of gold. But the best fail of NA, is the first time we saw Dignitas on competition. ( dignitas vs M5 )
pandour 2014 na actually had 2 teams get out of groups, the 3rd na team which was lmq which had a full chinese roster was in thr group of death, with fanatic, OMG from china and SSB Korea's first seed. So Na did pretty well
I have to say after witnessing 2014 for EU. And all the trash talk that came from NA for the past year untill worlds 2015 week 2. This felt like sweet revenge for EU fans and still does when re watched.
sad for them tho , im french and a big msf fan but i still hope they wont choke like dis this year , ahq might wake up again and smash c9 , imt well , i guess it was the fnc and gam pop off and they both were better than imt , tsm should make it but msf is looking stronger than they do and WE is a big challenge , not forgeting fw , cause theyre 0-3 but always put up a decent fight and could get a few games this week ! ... btw G2 played decently this week but this has nothing to do with the vid and theyre still stuck in groups due to too many individual misplays .
May I just say that actually this was more then the expected results from 2015 for NA. Non of the NA teams actually looked good, they where really bad and many people already said they had no hope for NA. On top of that EU had 2 very strong teams, China was supposed to be incredibly strong (even tho they weren't) and the Korean teams where just incredible with SKT being the undisputed best. So it should have come as no surprise to see all the NA teams fail the way they did. And honestly now they make it out to be some spectacular under performance of the NA teams while realistically that year NA was just utter trash (it has to be said).
It will be really great if the tie breaker fight against C9 vs AHQ happen again. C9 winning will mean a revenge of 2015 and AHQ winning will mean a repeat. Either way will be really fun.
UA-cam recommending this after Groups 2019? I didn't need this salt.
Same lol
I was wondering about that too.
@@fbiagent6456 me too officer
2020 🤣
Who is here after NA Worlds 2019 lul
YT recommendations lul
EU>NA
@@张桓瑜 very true
Na improve from 0-10 in 2015 to 1-9 in 2017
*2-9. I'm really currious how long this will go on. Will NA ever overcome the Week 2 curse?
MrViMichael Pretty good for an emerging wildcard region.
NA overperformed in 2017. The main problem of the region is that they need to play with 3 "NA"-players (which also includes Bjergsen because of TSM bias by Riot) - and NA as a competitive region is just trash.
I come from the Future, C9 made it to Semis by beating KR's second seed
@@Nr4747 not sure if you know this by now. But bjergsen is a US Resident now. No he is NA, on that technicality
American teams are like fish
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They stay in groups
I'm an NA fan but this made me lol
Genius
You spelled western wrong.
Cameron Crittenden NA Europeans make it to semifinals.
Im stealing this
Oh my heart can't take this. TSM loses to MSF to end off week 1. IMT flops every game to start week 2. theScore esports just goes and pour salt over the wound not even a full 24 hrs after the fact
As an european i would say #FeelsGodMan :D
SebitorLP lool you guys are definitely having some feel good redemption after your week 1
I'm glad TSM loss to MSF. Why? because NA does well week one because they don't know the strength of their group so they practice hard and try their hardest. Once they get 2-1 records they mental slack-off because they only need one win the next week. Since Group D is all 2-1 its basically the same of week 1 so they should go in the week with the same intensity( or even more). No mental slacking I hope.
For real thi
Kevin Surjanto cloud 9 has almoat free group. They are paired with 2 c tier teams and one s+ tier. Tsm is more experienced than msf. Msf might upset them once but theyre not consistent and rookies to worlds. Msf is c tier i think
G2 was euws best chance and A tier but samsung and rng are both S tier and title contenders.
Tsm is A tier like g2 but We A tier too so theres def a big chance.
Fw is d tier rn in international play.
But both c9 and tsm should win their group.
If msf beats tsm theyre really lucky
Is that why DoubleLift has a smurf called Zero and Ten?
Yes
what?
aracuscesar Doublelift has an LoL account that is named "Zero and Ten"
Just clicked the vid to see this
0-10 never forget! What a wonderful week that was!
I bought a C9 shirt when they were 3-0 and in control of their group... They were out of worlds before I got it in the mail.
Matthew Mueller Should have just cancelled it & ask for a refund with compensation LUL
Wear it in 2014,2016 and 2017... C9 has a habit of making it out of groups :D
C9 being in worlds that year was a miracle already.
@@ryanhodgson9693 this didnt age well
@@Lautaro-it9nd I mean, I made this comment 2 years ago m8, and they did make it out last year... so... not quite too sure what point you're trying to make
next vid: historic fail of NA in worlds 2019
na lul
At least they won some games in groups this time Xd i still cant get off the satisfaction of tsm not Making it to worlds twice in a roe
@@xiabloghostking6131 na lulw
Dang HAHAHAHA
NA lul
Here at 0-9 Worlds 2022. And Here's hoping for 0-18. Relegate the entire fucking region.
Ugh why'd you have to post this after the IMT flop feelsbad :/
Wtf do you know that by NA import rules you can't have more than 2 imports unless they are exempted? All NA teams at worlds have at least 3 NA players. Just cause they're ethnically asian doesn't mean they weren't raised in America and began playing league in NA. NA is not made up of only white people, jesus.
All citizens in NA are basicly immigrants, except for the "indians". So what do you mean about: "Pobelter and xMithie maybe but they're not really NA, you can see that." Doesn't make sense at all. Explain please?
LOL what are you smoking? You're only allowed to have 2 import players. Last time I checked, You don't have to be white to be North American.
Let me just preface this by saying I have nothing against NA, it's just my opinion on the subject. To me if you grew up in NA (as in lived all/nearly all your life) then I wouldnt consider you an import, even if both your parents are idk from China or some country in Europe. But if you're like Bjerg and moved to NA to play on a team as an import, then I think you're still an import even if you've gotten the US citizenship and technically dont count as one anymore. I still consider Bjerg to be from Europe especially since he even played in the LCS there. And thats the only example I can give since I don't know the background of most other players
We all talking about import when FNC (5 Europeans) shit on IMT lmao... sometimes i wonder if it's necessary, sometimes i wonder if it's just fans trying to distract themselves with something else to wipe their tears. With Pobelter gone we can say already that there are not NA mids anymore, since they're all garbage.
If you are a NA fan when you die, you can ask your team to put down your coffin so they can let you down one last time.
0/10 week two was bad? Here before NA goes 0/18 this worlds sadge
NA is just sad. 0-9, 0 tier-2 turrets taken.
Hello , i just came to say "NA LUL" :)
RADIS Dancer Same
I'm just here to remind everyone that 7 months later at MSI, NA is still LUL :)
To be fair, TL broke the rhythm - they did not get fourth.
RADOSLAV NEMEČEK i just came to find this comment 😂👌
its not good to say that judging from last years worlds.
And of course, history repeats itself yet again at Worlds 2019. Whaddaya know.
Stay free, NA
NA lol, 0-10 never forget, NA flash memes may last forever
thats because most of the people who play are immature.
how is that immature lol
people who cant move past things are typically immature. It's not a hard concept to understand.
DoubleLift still save his flash for next year
0-10 is dead I think but doublelift flash is eternal.
Wasnt 2015 the EU double semi finals run? = 2x EU top 4
Yeah, OG and FNC IIRC. FNC got eliminated by SKT but I don't remember o took down OG...
@@tiagocoelho7642 koo tigers i think
Came here to marvel at how it's happened again all 3 teams out be4 quarters and they should learn to not talk trash before competitions because karma is a b*tch
trash talking is fine, it makes sports interesting to watch. 2 years now i have had to watch doublelift crash and burn watchign his team int around him
@@spicycurry7238 true, their inevitable fail is so much better after the trash they talk
this looks like it will repeat again this year. #Feelsbadna
LMFAO, Cloud 9 and TSM will both make it out. #Feelsgoodna
0-9 incoming again in the second week
Jorge Palminha 0-10 since IMT went 0-4 already
atullo seems like Eu is still better than Na. Tomorrow is Tsm chance on the hot seat.
atullo I hope tsm fails badly
I feel bad for NA but after all that thresh talk about NA > EU it's better they come back to the ground and I hope they know their place now. I guess LCK while do the same to LPL before they get the insane idea they can win worlds.
xd XD XD xd xd xd xd xd XD THIS FOR SURE DIDN'T AGE WELL XDDDD
The first time YT has taken me somewhere I'm glad I ended up xD
Don't worry NA fan's, C9 is already playing the week 3 :D
And thus was the only team to get to quarters x)
At least we can say that out region the best at something (letting down our fans)
i think one can also say that ure the region with the most overhyped midlaner for multiple years straight now coming into world :P (Bjerg)
Joasch Kräuchi I was never really much of a fan of Bjerg. I also thought he was overrated (more so in recent years)
2012-2014 go NA we trust you, 2015- when LOL still exist , oh NA free wins for other regions
I honestly think that bjerg is S/S+ midlaner and easily one of the best (if not the best) in NA (although granted his recent performance wasn't really something to write home about). The whole world is full of mechanically good players, even the wildcard regions that some people don't even know about. Korea (and china as well) are just much better at macro and playing the game as a team.
C9 at worlds 2018 xdddd
Who came back here after TSM didnt qualify for worlds? And again, and again, and again.. C9 would be their last hope.
That UA-cam algorithm though after the annual NA drop out of worlds after the groups stage
lmao
Well part 2 incoming after TSM and IMT
Ironic, this video gets recommended to a FNC fan after NA fails to get a single team out of groups for a second time.
you can do better then that... let's go for 0-11 this time...
12:40 for the most satisfying sentence you will ever hear
2016 and 2017 C9 the only NA team to get out of groups and make it to Quarters
TIL Atlus had been casting Worlds back then. Is he an LPL or OPL (Oceanic) caster?
C9 wont suffer from the curse they had play in's its week 3 for them
Made me relive the pain of watching my favorite team (c9) do that.... after the miracle run through the gauntlet. 2 years later and i finally got over it... till now.
Still fan?
Fucking hell, TheScore, could we not have talked about this AFTER worlds?
Historic Fail of NA at the 2017 World Championship Incoming!
Mark my words.
12InchesUnBuffed just waiting for the C9 flop now. Almost completing the circle
it's not historic when they do it every year.
Nah c9 made it out at least
When they do it every year"?! since c9 startet to compete in league of legends in 2013, they have made worlds equally often as tsm AND made it out of groups every year but 2015. tsm made it out once. once in 5 years. in a group with no koreans, SK Gaming with substitude jungler and TPA. not an achievement. not an achievement.
they got out of groups in season 1 and 2. but i just compared c9 to tsm and therefore didnt count season 1 and 2 because c9 wasnt even a team back then :)
These series are great. You guys should make more historic series, of more subjects. Adding historic understanding to the game feels so interesting, and your narration is great, I can see great potential in your channel.
And here we are 2020 Worlds, 0-6 TSM
Maybe an episode of fnatics now historic 0:3, 0:4 to 4:4 comeback at this years worlds?
And again now but the lost to fpx rip
Yes, release this video right in the middle of group stages, right after IMT goes 0-4. Who is the evil mastermind behind this? I like the video, but... why? Are we not already stressed enough? FeelsBadMan
It'll be okay.
Thank you. T.T
Glad I fell in love with SKT back in 2013 when people were still doubting them at worlds. NA would be so disappointing to root for.
how is this video so short?
amoh because this video didn't get out of groups.
Because TSM is always too short to get out of groups
add 2019 na worlds to the list, and while you are at it you can also add 2020
Imagine drafting Xmithie instead of Dardoch and asking why NA is bad. Meanwhile best NA top tf blade becoming a streamer.
Pure Shqiptar welcome to NA i guess?
NA 0-10 LUL Never Forget
Where are the " go home EU you're drunk" ? Can't hear that anymore :3
As an NA fan, NA LUL
I want our region to be good, we have world-class native players in... um...
Doublelift and Licorice?
Historic ? noobs you did it again .
You guys should make a video on GAM and how they came out of nowhere
Thought this was a new video reminiscing about the other time NA went winless in a week. Now after worlds 2022, where NA went 3-15 in groups overall and winless in week 1, at least I know some things never change lol
We are gonna see a part 2 of this
Only NA ever thinks NA will do well at worlds. Their fans are the definition of delusional.
This video was basically made for EU fans.
C9 Saving NA once again
@8:20 Jesus that play by Lemon was awful. He ignores the Jinx, to flash stun the Thresh. He doesn't even proc a single passive on Jinx...
Its exactly what i've said when i've see this game. C9 is under coz of gold. But the best fail of NA, is the first time we saw Dignitas on competition. ( dignitas vs M5 )
hey
you missed the clip that doublelift randomly walks up to viktor and gets one shot last year
u said it. "last year". this video is about 2015, which isnt "last year". pretty obvious its not in here, isnt it?
History Of Fnatic Group Stage next?
So the historic fail of Na at worlds part 2?
The darkest days my NA friends...
It may probably happen. After all, NA already had 0-4 (gj IMT).
2019 worlds
This got recommended after watching worlds 2020 group draw
Still relevant in 2019 lol
2017 is TMS's best shot at getting out of group stage
LUL
nevermind, they fucking suck.
meoirin LMAO
FeelsBADman... at least C9 isn't total garbage
There are always some teams, they are good at beating teams from the same region but have no idea how to fight the world teams.
The Historic Fail of NA at every worlds ? :D
LUL @12:33
pandour 2014 na actually had 2 teams get out of groups, the 3rd na team which was lmq which had a full chinese roster was in thr group of death, with fanatic, OMG from china and SSB Korea's first seed. So Na did pretty well
getting out of groups is pretty well?For a wild card yes but for a region that gets 3 seeds it's a disaster
I have to say after witnessing 2014 for EU. And all the trash talk that came from NA for the past year untill worlds 2015 week 2. This felt like sweet revenge for EU fans and still does when re watched.
Can someone explian about zero and ten xd?
NA teams played 10 games that week and lost all of them
UA-cam dropping some salt. lol
maybe echo fox can make it this year, they have Huni and are 10-1 right now
At 11:33 into the vid, I had never noticed Phreak's incredible pun.
Y u do dis Lisa? :( Feelsbadman
LOL
Thanks youtube algorithm. History repeated itself.
I forgot about this until now, thanks you tube. Love watching and knowing I’m in this joke of a region.
sad for them tho , im french and a big msf fan but i still hope they wont choke like dis this year , ahq might wake up again and smash c9 , imt well , i guess it was the fnc and gam pop off and they both were better than imt , tsm should make it but msf is looking stronger than they do and WE is a big challenge , not forgeting fw , cause theyre 0-3 but always put up a decent fight and could get a few games this week ! ... btw G2 played decently this week but this has nothing to do with the vid and theyre still stuck in groups due to too many individual misplays .
c'mon guys, dont lose hope. We know they can do better this year!
0-11 looks very possible, maybe even 0-12 if the stars align!!
UA-cam rubbing it by recommending this video after 2019 Worlds group stage. "NA LUL"
Here while NA is disappointing us in Worlds 2020
It's like there's a hotfix patch that got released for week 2, nerfing NA
Why is C9 always the 3rd seed manage to win more games all these previous years
kinda funny that c9 for the past two years has been the only na team to make it out of groups.
RIP CLG Doublelift/Aphromoo and FNC Huni/Reignover, those were good times.
the memories, the good old rekkles kennen times.
NA has high hopes for wolrds every year and they never make it out of groups LOL
let's see if the week two curse is real.
dejavu i have been in this place before..... good luck na
Not to mention none of them even faced SKT, who disgustingly went 15-1 the entire tournament XD
C9 surpassing expectations, nice
Just change the year number and you could repost it every year cuz all’s NA does is disappoint zzzzzzzz
why show this? will it happen again lmao
imt just went 0-4 so WILL IT??
May I just say that actually this was more then the expected results from 2015 for NA. Non of the NA teams actually looked good, they where really bad and many people already said they had no hope for NA. On top of that EU had 2 very strong teams, China was supposed to be incredibly strong (even tho they weren't) and the Korean teams where just incredible with SKT being the undisputed best. So it should have come as no surprise to see all the NA teams fail the way they did. And honestly now they make it out to be some spectacular under performance of the NA teams while realistically that year NA was just utter trash (it has to be said).
The Historic Fail of NA Part 1
2015 World Championship
Who is here after TSM made history yesterday
It will be really great if the tie breaker fight against C9 vs AHQ happen again.
C9 winning will mean a revenge of 2015 and AHQ winning will mean a repeat.
Either way will be really fun.
I thought this was 2019 worlds
IMT 0-4 week 2 ... this shit is getting real
So the exact same thing has happened 3 years in a row... interesting.
Good timing scoreesports, but it'll be even better if you can post this after TSM getting eliminated. Thanks.
If you only watch till half way you come away happy. And that im happy with
NA chokes every year, get ready to make another one of these videos for this year
Will this year be another fall?
C9 looks like that team that their mum's come and pick up after tournaments
"hey hunny did you have fun at your video game thing?"