Oh, it’s fine for John Lennon to sit inside a bag all day but when I do it they say I’m not fit to do my job! It’s one rule for internationally renowned front men of 60’s Liverpudlian beat combo’s and another for Ryanair pilots, apparently.
Indeed. The situation has improved re. archive releases but I wish artists & record companies would create another channel if distributing music for the more hardcore fans that instead of only thinking in terms of mainstream releases.
Fuck Bootleggers, and the modern equivalent - illegal downloaders. How about the folks who make a living creating music come to your place of business each day and steal the products of your work?
I used to only like soundboard bootlegs but now I've gotten into sbd/ aud matrixes and sometimes pure audience tapes cause I realized I'm hearing the sound quality of venues and what people would have heard at the shows that way.
I agree. Even the mediocre ones often have that certain charme only a bootleg could capture, that sense of being in the middle of it & of hearing how it actually sounded.
That really depends on the band and bootlegger. I've heard some truly abysmal bootlegs of otherwise great bands. And I'm using the term 'abysmal' in an entirely inappropriate way, too
That Bootleg was legendary when I was in short pants but me and my mates had no idea how to get hold of bootlegs in the provinces. Now I have a few as curios more than anything.
And I love every bootleg recording of The Amazing Pudding much better than the orchestra version of Atom Heart Mother. Those entwined voices of Gilmour, Wright, and Waters is sublime in the snippet played here. edit: fixed typos and working title mistake.
The Yoko bit was hilarious. That's the attitude if you ask me. They're making shedloads anyway. And hearing Pink Floyd during that period made me kind of sad to think how it would all go so sour.
it's John's satirical take on prejudice and judgementalism. If we all lived in bags then maybe people wouldn't judge based on appearance anymore... or maybe we would all just judge each other because my bag is better than your bag.
On the whole they were crappy quality (top award to Cream at RAH that was recorded in the cinema with people talking or the Santana one where the music cuts out with a radio show) but there was something about them. Some were absolute fantastic quality and the performances far better than the officially release. I used to buy mine for £8 from a bookshop ran by an America hippy in Brighton. My biggest want is Alice Cooper 'Parracidal skumbers' which was deleted really quick. Tarkl was a pretty good label and they were often in coloured vinyl! Happy days.
The camera panning over from yoko to John sitting there in a bar after the interviewer asking how her husband feels about the situation and her responding “uh I don’t know he prefers to be in a bag today” is peak unintentional comedy gold
I never heard of bootlegs until my neighbor called me over to his house in 1977 to hear Led Zeppelin Earl's Court, an audience tape from 1975. I was fascinated then, and it continues unabated to this day. I'll listen to a good audience tape over a soundboard any day. They're like taking a time machine trip back to the glory days of Rock.
That's the type of comment that I could have left. For me it was around that time as well, when I discovered bootlegs in a local communist book & record store. I bought the copy of Hot Wax they had for sale & I was blown away - "you mean we can listen to parts of all these past concerts we never had a chance to go to? I'm so in." These days two of my ext. HD are full of audience recordings, sdbds & radio broadcasts.
I don't believe any bootleg record has affected the artist sales. If you are buying bootlegs then you want everything by that artist. Why else would you buy inferior product.
but we would still listen to bootlegs. Also today nobody needs to buy bootlegs, they're all over the internet, which is, i think, a good thing. Nobody should make money with bootlegs.
@@humanbutchery9412 I would think listening to a good boootleg of a concert performance would motivate one to make sure and see them on their next tour. So glad I was able to attend 3 Pink Floyd concerts before the break-up.
Jeffry Collins is still alive and in the biz. You KNOW Peter Grant did what he did best. Gave him a "stern" warning and Collins knew Grant wasn't bluffing. Peter had a rep of violently dealing with those that tried to rip off his acts.
Yes I unfortunately got to know that Skeezer well he runs a shady imprint label associated with U.M.G. called Famous Records. He lives in Coral Springs Florida. A sheister from the word go . He held onto four of my masters for five years never properly promoted them . I was to do all the heavy lifting and he would have stolen any $$$ made . I had to pull a Peter Grant to get them back . What goes round gets taken down 😎💪🏼😎
A famous early Floyd bootleg was recorded in my hometown in 1970 - Live at Akademiska Föreningen (AF), Lund University, Sweden. In reality it's the house of the Students' Union Corps, the gig was taped at their grand hall which has been used for concerts, theatre spectacles, public debates and conferences for a hundred years (I have attended many times, for instance seeing Sir George Martin talking about "The Making of Sgt Pepper"). :)
The greed. Do you think any fans bought bootlegs INSTEAD of buying official releases? I highly doubt it. They bought them IN ADDITION to buying official releases. So the bands and labels didn’t loose any money. The fans just wanted MORE than the labels were giving them.
TBH, I doubt this mattered to the record companies. Pink Floyd until very recently shut down auctions of PF vinyl bootlegs via the web sheriff. They never saw any value of having live recordings from 1970 - 77 circulate for the limited number of fans that enjoy them but neither did they record their own performances and release them themselves (The few performances on The Early Years box excepted).
Tpday we are happy to have at least bootlegs for historical reasons. In the 70ties Pink Floyd was so afraid of bootlegs that there is almost no official live recording of their shows. Maybe this TV feature was the reason Pink Floyd were so paranoid.
Jeffrey C. Collins = The Skeezer just ask Yoko Ono and me . He lives in Coral Springs Florida runs a shady imprint label e.g. Famous Records associated with U.M.G. Google him . He’s a two bit sheister .
Imagine being behind the counter in your little record store, and looking up to find out why it's suddenly gone dark. There, filling the doorway is Mr Grant, fixing you with that icey stare. Resistance is futile! He may have had a 20% cut in the band but my god he looked after them.
Too bad that groups don't have managers like Peter Grant to protect their interests anymore! A passionate defender. These days it's all done impersonally with lawyers.
The groups back then had to go on tour to promote their legitimate record releases. Tours cost the bands a lot to put together and often / mostly didn't break even. Venues often taking 50% of the door takings and by the time the cost of hiring P.A. and lighting rigs, stage crew, Hotel costs and transport for everyone the band needs the revenue from Album sales to finance it... Legal album sales..
Makes me laugh when all these bands are nothing without the fans that buy records, tickets and merchandise but moan about bootlegging live shows . As a collector of live Van Morrison shows from 1971 onwards I know that it’s only a very small group of aficionados that buy bootlegs as well as the official’ releases. Look at what the Grateful Dead used to do as they encouraged fans to record their shows . That’s the true spirit
When IBM was introducing Market Driven Quality into their manufacturing workforce, they cited the Grateful Dead's policy of allowing people to make bootleg recordings because that was what the market wanted.
Never hurt the Grateful Dead, they actively encouraged it. Now, because of those high quality recordings they've got an incredible catalogue of shows to clean up and release.
A. That's because you didn't put your "bootleg ears" on. B. You failed to appreciate that this was the only way this performance was preserved, in most cases, so it's this bootleg recording or nothing. C. It simply hasn't been my experience. Plenty of radio/line recordings and studio outtakes among the many I've owned or heard.
And the record companies really suffered....right! Bootlegs can be a record of a gig that wouldn't have been officially released. I've got some cracking Floyd boots. What they should have done, and more so now, is go after those COUNTERFEITING goods over in China etc. Box sets are a target for this. Lennon in a bag. What a knob!
HENDRIX everywhere ! Hendrix mean 1970 era ! ... You can't imagine the era , you have to be there . Its something . The Spirit of the Era , its call also the Zeitgeist ! The full mind and soul of something . You see also that after 7 pm its pitch black outside . Everybody forget it , with alot of beauty and soul . I dont forget IT , and I never will . 1960-70 Era only , nothing more , nothing .
Peter Grant probably dangled that little wide boy upside down out of a 40 storey window, unless he had a big bonfire right now of his Led Zep bootlegs! Then he made him cook his dinner to say sorry for ripping him and them off!! (Although we all REALLY know who were the REAL rip off merchants in rock here don’t we?!)
Stairway to heaven:The Song Remains the Same!! BABY!!! Awwwwww... Just give it to me, give it to me, give it to me....sugah......sugahhhh!!! Well I got some good news,listen!! One of the best PICK ME UPS IN A LIVE SONG...hands down..😁✌️🍻
@@zakur0hako on live version-song remains the same sdtrk,Robert asks the audience if anyone remembers laughter, when he said the phrase,and the forests will echo with laughter, then...he says it..
@@haysfordays when I 1st got the double cassette set,back in 90s.it was my introduction to Live Zeppelin!!obviously the whole album grew on me lol,but this version of stairway, ONE OF MY FAVES!!soon as I saw what u put lol,I started singing out the rest of the ad lib he does hahaha!!1 of the BEST VERSIONS of No Quarter!! Fun fact,the No Quarter on cassette, is completely different then the CD version!!found out when I got it on cd,the special version with the t shirt and songs added back in etc...soon as it started playing No Quarter,got to mid/jam section, and it was a totally different version!!BUT I WILL SAY THIS!! IF ur car has good sound system subs etc, play no Quarter LOUD!!That bass pedal Jonesy is using BOY OH BOY!!ITS A CONSTANT BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBNRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...and it's Awesome-tacular!!🤪🤣😂✌️🍻🤟
I am sure Pink Floyd wouldn't mind if Syd's albums where bootlegged after all they stole his record contract Amazing Yoko can handle her drugs unlike John
I think Yoko had the right idea. Bands that nobody liked didn't get bootlegged. I doubt any of the acts featured here really lost much money to bootlegging as it was back then. The people who were willing to shell out the money for bootlegs also bought the official releases, and buyers who were in that market understood that the sometimes low quality was not a reflection of the band. They just wanted to hear more music, and paid for it. Of course, releasing illegal versions of official albums was a problem, but the bands did fine. These days, everything is available for free on youtube and the album business barely exists anymore.
The compact cassette along with a change in the law killed this off and so everyone would trek up to Camden to get last weeks gigs on a D90 for a couple of quid. But you could still find dodgy Italian vinyl pressings in Virgin on Oxford street until the early 90s
I agree that once recordable media appeared, some buyers fell away but a core remained and vinyl boots hung on until the 90's. The biggest threat was always getting busted by the FBI/local law enforcement, which heated up in the late 70's.
Don't worry kids. In around 5 years time punk destroys this monstrous oily scene of vile fashion, hairstyles and, of course, dire, pointless vanity project music, and I use the term "music" loosely as it's more like a dirge.
For a live bootleg, it probably doesn't. But for the stolen masters that are then released with changed song titles on a bootleg released in a small country, that allows someone to buy the finished product at a reduced price, instead of the artists' official release at a higher price.
@@majwilsonlion I agree that in those circumstances where an official release has been pirated, but live concert material only serves to enhance an acts reputation. Led Zeppelin being a case in point.
The interview at abbey Road he started hurling during the interview and said i think i am going to be sick when he was smacked out i bet he was nodding out in the bag probably Yoko had a emergency bag and a sick bag for him.
Imagine if somebody told them that in 50 years there is going to be this thing called UA-cam and you can listen to any song ever recorded for free and you can even record your own music and publish for free.
I'm so sorry Mr Lennon cannot voice an opinion on this as he prefers to be in a bag today. This from a man who stated that the people who run this world are insane (not that I do not agree with him on that sentiment but the irony, oh the irony).
wow so thats how they made Led Zepp blueberry Hill...thats clever even for those days...you dont need to drag a 1/2 inch recorder into the arena and plug it in. Just transmit the mics to outside and have your van full of gear there in the parking lot. Genius. Im surprised more werent done like this
Rubber Dubber was the only outfit that did this & they did bootleg this show also: www.discogs.com/master/783711-Led-Zeppelin-Live-At-The-Los-Angeles-Forum-9-4-70 TMOQ's version was recorded the old fashioned way. www.discogs.com/release/2734183-Led-Zeppelin-Live-On-Blueberry-Hill
"If we released a live recording, it would be much better quality" Yes, but you didn't. But i agree, bootlegs of officially released records are only money-making. Live bootlegs on the other hand are very important, because you can't get these recordings officially. If a band wanted to stop bootlegging forever, the would have to release every single performance (which would be OK for me)
Yes,I agree with you.A distinction should be made between knock-off copies of legitimate releases (the correct term for which is 'pirated records') and actual bootleg releases which create records that would otherwise not exist and which do not affect sales of the legitimate releases.
Yes these are great points if you love an artist you want the live recordings as well as studio recordings which in not just albums but demo recording as well
I assume you are you talking about bootleg vinyl or CD's offered for sale (the market has shrunk quite a bit in the last 20 years and the print runs are now only around 500 or so)? It depends when & how they were recorded, I would say & I have a "glass half full" perspective: A surprising number of them actually sound pretty good, if you're willing to adjust your standards down from commercially released Frankenstein'd live albums. They're a more honest presentation of what the concert actually sounded like (if an audience recording) & they're usually the only way to hear that particular show. Finally, a lot of bootlegs have been liberated via live music torrent sites, so there is no need to pay for them.
A band now wouldn't make a nothing from streaming yet some UA-camr would make a reaction video and make more money than the band. Because the UA-camr has a monetized channel and the band don't because they are to busy making music 🤣
Sex pistols collector one album loads of bootlegs and demos and many bootlegs are semi legal anyway if the artist has gave permission.anyway now many pistols are released by universial who have alk the rights to release box sets of demos interviews and live gigs I have seen pistols live 6 times and hearing them on bootleg eas an amazing thing I've got 60 pistols bootlegs 250 items in my collection and a good adam ant collection and collector other genres.
The original "Spunk" bootleg from 1976 still sounds better than any of the modern official versions. Why the actual record company can't manage to get it right is anyone's guess!
The arguments of the anti-bootleggers never add up! If I like a band I wish to buy all their (good) albums *plus* their bootleg recordings! So either the folks at their record company are willing to produce the "extra" material (which means they can earn the desired money) or they don't which means they don't make that (extra) money anyhow! When I lived in California in the 1970s (San Fran, Berkeley, San Jose) I bought busloads of bootlegs😜, mainly because the record industry back then was extremely reluctant to produce live albums ...!
People don't understand why people buy bootlegs. We buy them because we already have every second of officially released material and want more. No one is losing a dime.
Bootlegging made artist more famous too. Then they could sold tickets and more. I mean, you lose some money, and you win more. You reach people that otherwise wouldn't be able to buy your music. If you get recognition after all, and people then know who you are, I think it's kind of paying ADs
Oh, it’s fine for John Lennon to sit inside a bag all day but when I do it they say I’m not fit to do my job! It’s one rule for internationally renowned front men of 60’s Liverpudlian beat combo’s and another for Ryanair pilots, apparently.
"Penny Lane" renamed "Copper Path." LOL. Thus The Ruttles were born!
Lennon’s in a bag and Yoko shouts “Power to the people”… looks like a scene out of the Rutles lol
My exact thoughts lol
jep
"Papher do da beephole" more
...and Sean has to buy dad's memorabilia off her, revolution indeed.
The narrator sounds like Eric Idle, too!
RIP in piss Peter Grant, you would’ve hated file sharing and streaming
Thanks GOODNESS for bootleggers. They've given us a myriad of great recordings of great bands that otherwise would be lost in history.
Indeed. The situation has improved re. archive releases but I wish artists & record companies would create another channel if distributing music for the more hardcore fans that instead of only thinking in terms of mainstream releases.
Fuck Bootleggers, and the modern equivalent - illegal downloaders. How about the folks who make a living creating music come to your place of business each day and steal the products of your work?
The Oakland 75 bootlegs with the concert proto versions of the Animals LP.
I used to only like soundboard bootlegs but now I've gotten into sbd/ aud matrixes and sometimes pure audience tapes cause I realized I'm hearing the sound quality of venues and what people would have heard at the shows that way.
would not be lost, they would still hang on to it, a recording doesn’t disappear
Neeever seen that footage of Yoko and John in the bag lmfao. I thought I'd seen it all.
my favorite thing about bootlegs is that they capture the live feeling much better than any officially released polished live album
I agree. Even the mediocre ones often have that certain charme only a bootleg could capture, that sense of being in the middle of it & of hearing how it actually sounded.
@@spinalcrackerbox I prefer my very good Led Zeppelin audience recordings over the soundboard tapes. An audience recording isn't as sterile.
word.
That really depends on the band and bootlegger. I've heard some truly abysmal bootlegs of otherwise great bands. And I'm using the term 'abysmal' in an entirely inappropriate way, too
@@bertroost1675 I mean it doesnt help that most of the soundboards we have from zeppelin are shit sounding.
I want to thank Peter Grant for "Live on Blueberry Hill" tip! Excellent bootleg!
That Bootleg was legendary when I was in short pants but me and my mates had no idea how to get hold of bootlegs in the provinces. Now I have a few as curios more than anything.
Splendid Memories Of A Splendid Year: 1971...
This is gold-dust, what a great little clip. A glimpse into the music world in 1971.
Nice to hear the Floyd working on an early take of "Echoes".
And I love every bootleg recording of The Amazing Pudding much better than the orchestra version of Atom Heart Mother. Those entwined voices of Gilmour, Wright, and Waters is sublime in the snippet played here.
edit: fixed typos and working title mistake.
@@majwilsonlionthe amazing pudding
@@paulotonedef - yes. Thanks!
The Yoko bit was hilarious. That's the attitude if you ask me. They're making shedloads anyway. And hearing Pink Floyd during that period made me kind of sad to think how it would all go so sour.
I never get tired of unearthed footage of Pink Floyd from that era. Thank you UA-cam for this treasure.
Peter Grant was a scary legend.
Only to those who deserved scaring!!! ;-)
yep 6-5 350 lbs
fatty
...no one is going to talk about John Lennon being inside of a bag for no reason?
What do you mean inside a bag for no reason? He got her pregnant didn't he 😜
he was probably tripped out
That was just his bag baby!
Yoko introduced John to bagism. He used "bagism" lyrically in Give Peace A Chance. Yoko's performance art sometimes included being in a bag.
it's John's satirical take on prejudice and judgementalism. If we all lived in bags then maybe people wouldn't judge based on appearance anymore... or maybe we would all just judge each other because my bag is better than your bag.
On the whole they were crappy quality (top award to Cream at RAH that was recorded in the cinema with people talking or the Santana one where the music cuts out with a radio show) but there was something about them. Some were absolute fantastic quality and the performances far better than the officially release. I used to buy mine for £8 from a bookshop ran by an America hippy in Brighton. My biggest want is Alice Cooper 'Parracidal skumbers' which was deleted really quick. Tarkl was a pretty good label and they were often in coloured vinyl! Happy days.
Who here remembers Napster and Lime Wire..............
Don't forget bear share.
Lovely to see Rick as I remember him with the guys in Abbey Road - studio two I think.
The camera panning over from yoko to John sitting there in a bar after the interviewer asking how her husband feels about the situation and her responding “uh I don’t know he prefers to be in a bag today” is peak unintentional comedy gold
Nothing unintentional about it. They definitely know they're being funny.
I never heard of bootlegs until my neighbor called me over to his house in 1977 to hear Led Zeppelin Earl's Court, an audience tape from 1975. I was fascinated then, and it continues unabated to this day. I'll listen to a good audience tape over a soundboard any day. They're like taking a time machine trip back to the glory days of Rock.
That's the type of comment that I could have left.
For me it was around that time as well, when I discovered bootlegs in a local communist book & record store. I bought the copy of Hot Wax they had for sale & I was blown away - "you mean we can listen to parts of all these past concerts we never had a chance to go to? I'm so in." These days two of my ext. HD are full of audience recordings, sdbds & radio broadcasts.
I don't believe any bootleg record has affected the artist sales. If you are buying bootlegs then you want everything by that artist. Why else would you buy inferior product.
If Pink Floyd recorded and released early 70s live recordings we would not need to buy bootlegs to hear their live performances.
but we would still listen to bootlegs. Also today nobody needs to buy bootlegs, they're all over the internet, which is, i think, a good thing. Nobody should make money with bootlegs.
They wanted you to see them live yourself maybe? And if you released music you would be pissed if someone else was making money off your hard work.
@@humanbutchery9412 or maybe I would be pleased and see it as advertising for my talent.
@@humanbutchery9412 I would think listening to a good boootleg of a concert performance would motivate one to make sure and see them on their next tour. So glad I was able to attend 3 Pink Floyd concerts before the break-up.
Jeffry Collins is still alive and in the biz. You KNOW Peter Grant did what he did best. Gave him a "stern" warning and Collins knew Grant wasn't bluffing. Peter had a rep of violently dealing with those that tried to rip off his acts.
Yes I unfortunately got to know that Skeezer well he runs a shady imprint label associated with U.M.G. called Famous Records. He lives in Coral Springs Florida. A sheister from the word go . He held onto four of my masters for five years never properly promoted them . I was to do all the heavy lifting and he would have stolen any $$$ made . I had to pull a Peter Grant to get them back . What goes round gets taken down 😎💪🏼😎
"For The People".
-Yoko Ono-.
💯
It's great to see the full report, The Pink Floyd part was released on the recent Pink Floyd Boxset
That's what I've been told.
This is a very rare video indeed. Worth the preservation for the Floyd footage alone!!!
I can't stand Yoko as an artist, but she has the correct take on this.
A famous early Floyd bootleg was recorded in my hometown in 1970 - Live at Akademiska Föreningen (AF), Lund University, Sweden. In reality it's the house of the Students' Union Corps, the gig was taped at their grand hall which has been used for concerts, theatre spectacles, public debates and conferences for a hundred years (I have attended many times, for instance seeing Sir George Martin talking about "The Making of Sgt Pepper"). :)
The irony is we're watching a bootleg about bootlegs!
2:49 is that Richard Branson?
No, it's not.
Yes it is.
No, it’s not Branson.
no defo not old beardy, just his store manager i suspect !
The greed. Do you think any fans bought bootlegs INSTEAD of buying official releases? I highly doubt it. They bought them IN ADDITION to buying official releases. So the bands and labels didn’t loose any money. The fans just wanted MORE than the labels were giving them.
TBH, I doubt this mattered to the record companies. Pink Floyd until very recently shut down auctions of PF vinyl bootlegs via the web sheriff. They never saw any value of having live recordings from 1970 - 77 circulate for the limited number of fans that enjoy them but neither did they record their own performances and release them themselves (The few performances on The Early Years box excepted).
@@spinalcrackerbox not just "shut down auctions",... they sue as well,....back to greed
you NAILED IT. Amen to that!
Tpday we are happy to have at least bootlegs for historical reasons. In the 70ties Pink Floyd was so afraid of bootlegs that there is almost no official live recording of their shows. Maybe this TV feature was the reason Pink Floyd were so paranoid.
Jeffrey C. Collins = The Skeezer just ask Yoko Ono and me . He lives in Coral Springs Florida runs a shady imprint label e.g. Famous Records associated with U.M.G. Google him . He’s a two bit sheister .
That was the coolest clip of yoko i have seen
If I had to make a defense for bootlegs, a lot of enthusiasts don’t have access to really cool unheard cuts from mainstream sources.
Imagine being behind the counter in your little record store, and looking up to find out why it's suddenly gone dark. There, filling the doorway is Mr Grant, fixing you with that icey stare. Resistance is futile! He may have had a 20% cut in the band but my god he looked after them.
Too bad that groups don't have managers like Peter Grant to protect their interests anymore! A passionate defender. These days it's all done impersonally with lawyers.
"The Led Zeppelin" 🤣
Enjoyable watch, a nice trip down memory lane.
Could it be this report that inspired Eric Idle to make The Rutles?
Waters and Gilmour look like they're enjoying their bootleg.
Yoko is the only voice of reason here!
True.
power to the people, right on!
a crackpot
A great bootleg was The Basement Tapes by Bob Dylan which then became a legitimate release. I love bootlegs!
Peter Grant Heavy “
Very amusing report!! Power to the People!!
Who cares about bootlegs. With all the money these groups make.
Nobody hated & hates bootlegs more than Pink Floyd (of all the A-list artists). So, it's rather fitting that they're featured here.
The groups back then had to go on tour to promote their legitimate record releases. Tours cost the bands a lot to put together and often / mostly didn't break even. Venues often taking 50% of the door takings and by the time the cost of hiring P.A. and lighting rigs, stage crew, Hotel costs and transport for everyone the band needs the revenue from Album sales to finance it... Legal album sales..
Makes me laugh when all these bands are nothing without the fans that buy records, tickets and merchandise but moan about bootlegging live shows . As a collector of live Van Morrison shows from 1971 onwards I know that it’s only a very small group of aficionados that buy bootlegs as well as the official’ releases.
Look at what the Grateful Dead used to do as they encouraged fans to record their shows .
That’s the true spirit
When IBM was introducing Market Driven Quality into their manufacturing workforce, they cited the Grateful Dead's policy of allowing people to make bootleg recordings because that was what the market wanted.
Then this lead to entertainment sharing services like limewire in the early internet days. Which led to torrent downloading after that.
Never hurt the Grateful Dead, they actively encouraged it. Now, because of those high quality recordings they've got an incredible catalogue of shows to clean up and release.
And they all sound the same.
Most of the bootlegs I heard sounded terrible. It always sounded like they were recorded in the room next door to the arena.
A. That's because you didn't put your "bootleg ears" on.
B. You failed to appreciate that this was the only way this performance was preserved, in most cases, so it's this bootleg recording or nothing.
C. It simply hasn't been my experience. Plenty of radio/line recordings and studio outtakes among the many I've owned or heard.
And the record companies really suffered....right! Bootlegs can be a record of a gig that wouldn't have been officially released. I've got some cracking Floyd boots. What they should have done, and more so now, is go after those COUNTERFEITING goods over in China etc. Box sets are a target for this. Lennon in a bag. What a knob!
HENDRIX everywhere ! Hendrix mean 1970 era ! ... You can't imagine the era , you have to be there . Its something . The Spirit of the Era , its call also the Zeitgeist ! The full mind and soul of something .
You see also that after 7 pm its pitch black outside . Everybody forget it , with alot of beauty and soul . I dont forget IT , and I never will . 1960-70 Era only , nothing more , nothing .
Live'r Than You'll Ever Be
Tales From The Who
Sun Vanishes
British Tour '74
Listen To This, Eddie
Nassau Coliseum '76
Chrome Dreams
The Black Album
Peter Grant probably dangled that little wide boy upside down out of a 40 storey window, unless he had a big bonfire right now of his Led Zep bootlegs! Then he made him cook his dinner to say sorry for ripping him and them off!! (Although we all REALLY know who were the REAL rip off merchants in rock here don’t we?!)
Does anybody remember laughter?
Stairway to heaven:The Song Remains the Same!!
BABY!!! Awwwwww...
Just give it to me, give it to me, give it to me....sugah......sugahhhh!!!
Well I got some good news,listen!!
One of the best PICK ME UPS IN A LIVE SONG...hands down..😁✌️🍻
i still don't know what he meant by that
@@zakur0hako on live version-song remains the same sdtrk,Robert asks the audience if anyone remembers laughter, when he said the phrase,and the forests will echo with laughter, then...he says it..
@@steve-0493 100%
@@haysfordays when I 1st got the double cassette set,back in 90s.it was my introduction to Live Zeppelin!!obviously the whole album grew on me lol,but this version of stairway, ONE OF MY FAVES!!soon as I saw what u put lol,I started singing out the rest of the ad lib he does hahaha!!1 of the BEST VERSIONS of No Quarter!! Fun fact,the No Quarter on cassette, is completely different then the CD version!!found out when I got it on cd,the special version with the t shirt and songs added back in etc...soon as it started playing No Quarter,got to mid/jam section, and it was a totally different version!!BUT I WILL SAY THIS!! IF ur car has good sound system subs etc, play no Quarter LOUD!!That bass pedal Jonesy is using BOY OH BOY!!ITS A CONSTANT BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBNRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...and it's Awesome-tacular!!🤪🤣😂✌️🍻🤟
The guys in Floyd looked pissed.
I am sure Pink Floyd wouldn't mind if Syd's albums where bootlegged after all they stole his record contract
Amazing Yoko can handle her drugs unlike John
Naughty, evil, wicked bootleggers! Don't they know that only record companies, managers and agents are allowed to steal from hard working musicians?
Cool they were playing some songs from the More album lol..nile song, cymbaline.good floyd Gems!!😁✌️🤟🍻
I think Yoko had the right idea. Bands that nobody liked didn't get bootlegged. I doubt any of the acts featured here really lost much money to bootlegging as it was back then. The people who were willing to shell out the money for bootlegs also bought the official releases, and buyers who were in that market understood that the sometimes low quality was not a reflection of the band. They just wanted to hear more music, and paid for it. Of course, releasing illegal versions of official albums was a problem, but the bands did fine. These days, everything is available for free on youtube and the album business barely exists anymore.
The compact cassette along with a change in the law killed this off and so everyone would trek up to Camden to get last weeks gigs on a D90 for a couple of quid.
But you could still find dodgy Italian vinyl pressings in Virgin on Oxford street until the early 90s
I agree that once recordable media appeared, some buyers fell away but a core remained and vinyl boots hung on until the 90's. The biggest threat was always getting busted by the FBI/local law enforcement, which heated up in the late 70's.
Don't worry kids. In around 5 years time punk destroys this monstrous oily scene of vile fashion, hairstyles and, of course, dire, pointless vanity project music, and I use the term "music" loosely as it's more like a dirge.
Well, they're not going to get anyone heavier than me, are they?
I busted out laughing when Grant said that.
If these are recordings which the record companies have no intention of releasing, how does it cut into artist royalties🧐🤔
For a live bootleg, it probably doesn't. But for the stolen masters that are then released with changed song titles on a bootleg released in a small country, that allows someone to buy the finished product at a reduced price, instead of the artists' official release at a higher price.
@@majwilsonlion I agree that in those circumstances where an official release has been pirated, but live concert material only serves to enhance an acts reputation. Led Zeppelin being a case in point.
Click like if you think John Lennon was smacked out of his mind whenever he was in a bag during an interview
The interview at abbey Road he started hurling during the interview and said i think i am going to be sick when he was smacked out i bet he was nodding out in the bag probably Yoko had a emergency bag and a sick bag for him.
Imagine if somebody told them that in 50
years there is going to be this thing called
UA-cam and you can listen to any song
ever recorded for free and you can even
record your own music and publish for
free.
Wait till they find out about Npaster in like 30 years
If Peter Grant was crossed,and you didnt listen to him,he would have a tendancy to fuck you up!
No surprise he stopped selling Led Zep bootlegs after Peter Grant came calling.
I'm so sorry Mr Lennon cannot voice an opinion on this as he prefers to be in a bag today. This from a man who stated that the people who run this world are insane (not that I do not agree with him on that sentiment but the irony, oh the irony).
And now the same bands flog them as if they're the Holy Grail.
wow so thats how they made Led Zepp blueberry Hill...thats clever even for those days...you dont need to drag a 1/2 inch recorder into the arena and plug it in. Just transmit the mics to outside and have your van full of gear there in the parking lot. Genius. Im surprised more werent done like this
Rubber Dubber was the only outfit that did this & they did bootleg this show also: www.discogs.com/master/783711-Led-Zeppelin-Live-At-The-Los-Angeles-Forum-9-4-70
TMOQ's version was recorded the old fashioned way. www.discogs.com/release/2734183-Led-Zeppelin-Live-On-Blueberry-Hill
2:59 Taylor Hawkins worked at Virgin Records?
I never knew Jabba The Hutt managed Led Zeppelin.
Poor bands. Bootlegs really put a damper on their earnings.
Good old Yoko
He prefers to be in a bag today is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while
Pink Floyd was considered "pop music".
If you believe a word of what that "Mister Big" distributor said you need to open your eyes 😂
"If we released a live recording, it would be much better quality"
Yes, but you didn't.
But i agree, bootlegs of officially released records are only money-making.
Live bootlegs on the other hand are very important, because you can't get these recordings officially.
If a band wanted to stop bootlegging forever, the would have to release every single performance (which would be OK for me)
Yes,I agree with you.A distinction should be made between knock-off copies of legitimate releases (the correct term for which is 'pirated records') and actual bootleg releases which create records that would otherwise not exist and which do not affect sales of the legitimate releases.
Yes these are great points if you love an artist you want the live recordings as well as studio recordings which in not just albums but demo recording as well
They did???...live in pompeii is a masterpiece,,,although I whish they it was easier to get on record!!!
@@dyangordon6151 which group was that ??
@@dyangordon6151 pink Floyd??
11:08 "Raspberry Gardens Forever!"
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I just have an issue with the color of his bag.
Most bootleg live events sounded like crap and I would not waste my money on them.
I assume you are you talking about bootleg vinyl or CD's offered for sale (the market has shrunk quite a bit in the last 20 years and the print runs are now only around 500 or so)?
It depends when & how they were recorded, I would say & I have a "glass half full" perspective: A surprising number of them actually sound pretty good, if you're willing to adjust your standards down from commercially released Frankenstein'd live albums.
They're a more honest presentation of what the concert actually sounded like (if an audience recording) & they're usually the only way to hear that particular show.
Finally, a lot of bootlegs have been liberated via live music torrent sites, so there is no need to pay for them.
And the record label executives didn’t think they were fleecing fans? 😂😂😂😂😂
Long live bootlegs! ❤️
And now we have UA-cam
A band now wouldn't make a nothing from streaming yet some UA-camr would make a reaction video and make more money than the band. Because the UA-camr has a monetized channel and the band don't because they are to busy making music 🤣
i knew lennon had a "bag" but he is inside the wrong one
John Lennon's appearence in this is great lol
Was that Richard Branson being interviewed at Virgin Records?
No
The hell is Gilmour playing at 9:54?
The Grateful Dead had the right idea.
Greatest band, greatest fans ever! ✌🇨🇦
What’s the name of the band at the beginning?
Sex pistols collector one album loads of bootlegs and demos and many bootlegs are semi legal anyway if the artist has gave permission.anyway now many pistols are released by universial who have alk the rights to release box sets of demos interviews and live gigs I have seen pistols live 6 times and hearing them on bootleg eas an amazing thing I've got 60 pistols bootlegs 250 items in my collection and a good adam ant collection and collector other genres.
The original "Spunk" bootleg from 1976 still sounds better than any of the modern official versions. Why the actual record company can't manage to get it right is anyone's guess!
This is the guy that Eric Idle studied for The Rutles.
And it was HERE that the Punk Floyd heard their bootleg..
@@billcowie hahaah Brilliant!!
@@billcowie "well....not right here ...but just a little bit to the left of me..."
Fantastic video, plus that initial song is by Bridget St. John, whom I had never heard of until now.
The arguments of the anti-bootleggers never add up! If I like a band I wish to buy all their (good) albums *plus* their bootleg recordings!
So either the folks at their record company are willing to produce the "extra" material (which means they can earn the desired money) or they don't which means they don't make that (extra) money anyhow!
When I lived in California in the 1970s (San Fran, Berkeley, San Jose) I bought busloads of bootlegs😜, mainly because the record industry back then was extremely reluctant to produce live albums ...!
yoko ono seems really cool for a commie
YOKO \o/
People don't understand why people buy bootlegs. We buy them because we already have every second of officially released material and want more. No one is losing a dime.
Bootlegging made artist more famous too. Then they could sold tickets and more. I mean, you lose some money, and you win more. You reach people that otherwise wouldn't be able to buy your music. If you get recognition after all, and people then know who you are, I think it's kind of paying ADs
Hooray for the bootlegs !😂
I remember my siouxsie and the banshee bootleg from 91...cd sounded like it was recorded in a tin can..however...it adds to the collection