I'm amazed at myself/ourselves. I've been going to pubs for over 60 years and never realised it was a culture or it was something that someone needed to give instructions on. Strange isn't it, to find that popping down the local for a quick pint with your mates is an activity that requires an educational video?
Once you know people then rounds are not quite as strict. People will know you are not trying to avoid paying so it evens out over weeks and months. They also recognise the opposite, those who regularly do avoid paying. You then have a choice what to do. If they are financially struggling most people just ignore it.
There's always one who times their round so that they get it in a pub that saves them 80p, but yeah, most of us aren't bothered unless they leave immediately before it's their round. Oh to have these problems now, we're going to have to learn the etiquette all over again in the future.
If I'm short of time or money I'll just say 'I'm going Dutch Guys' meaning thanks for the offer but not for me. Yvette makes a point I'd never considered, that of trust in terms of rounds being returned as you'll generally reach that level of confidence with someone else before buying a round or conversely slipping a friend £20 discretely to pay for 'their' round.
Was just gonna say the same thing. Forewarned is forearmed, although you'll probably be asked if you're sure you have to go 😂 (because your mates wanna spend a bit more time with you, not for any financial reason) 👍🏽.
As a bonus, if you're able to do what you need to, and pull a surprise return = you will be the man/woman of the hour (especially if you loudly announce upon re-entry "right, all sorted! What's everyone having?") 🤣
When I was young the 'girls' were neither expected to buy a round nor have a drink every round. It was the men that had to buy the rounds, which had to include all the girls in the group if they wanted one.
Don’t forget leaving a pound on the pool table means you are reserving your spot to play the next game! Also pubs will have a bell that is rung about half hour before closing meaning last calls, this is where you can order one last time before they stop serving.
I'd also say, if you are going to being placing a large round and the staff are rushed and bar area quite busy, ask the persons next to you if they they are ordering a single drink or small round and say for them to go before you. It's just common courtesy. The bar person will likely still come to you, but you simply state or gesticulate that your okay with them going first. That being said, if someone does ask if you are placing a small order, don't say yes, and then give a large order to the bar person. That's just not cool. You don't have to share your snacks, but if you are going to the bar to get some, again if your doing rounds or not, ask the table if they want anything getting while your up.
When I moved to Oz, mid 90's, the biggest difference I feel is, when you go to the pub in England, you go to wind down, relax and socialise, possibly on the way home from work, in time for happy hour. In Oz, I found people get pumped up to go to the pub and probably have several drinks before they even get there. I found the Aussie country pub culture with the locals to have some similarities to English pub culture.
I think you got it spot on, it's much the same north and south , plus I love that saying "if that's the hill you want to die on" ...I use that now as well 🤣🤣
It is important to bear in mind that there are many types of pubs, so don't go into one and expect them to all be the same. City/town pubs, country pubs, seaside pubs, local pubs. Big pubs, small pubs, chain pubs, independent pubs. Also, the pub that you might love to go to for lunch could feel entirely different if you go there at night. Apart from the well known brands, expect to find regional beers. So if you order a pint of locally brewed bitter in a pub in Devon it will be different to a pint of bitter in Yorkshire. Embrace and enjoy local beer. If you have to leave before getting a round in, make sure that you get in first to say it's my round when you next go out.
Hey lass. I hope your keeping safe and well. Not seen any new videos for a while and hope everything is okay. That's not to say to go make a video, I just was thinking I hadn't seen any and thought I'd post to say I and I'm sure the rest of us, hope your okay. Any way, happy new year, take care and all the best.
You've done well to cover pub behaviour in a real sense Yvette. Good observation. As other comments say, rounds are not expected to be a strict contract. You can opt out at the start. You can have 3 drinks in a five person round and the leave before paying out for your round if you are with your regular group who will know you'll balance it up another time. At the end of the month, someone will have paid the most and someone the least, but it shouldn't be a vast difference. Don't are; don't repeatedly dodge your round and don't be the one with the calculator. I've been on both sides of the bar and I used to be a pub manager for four years. On busy nights when there's a crowd four people deep pressing up to the bar. I would have the bar staff take a section of bar so they can better recognise the order of the people waiting for a drink. That's why some people further down the bar think there are staff are ignoring them. Also, if you are part of the mass of people crushed up to the bar and the bar staff look to take your order, when you know the person next to you was really before you, then it is courteous to say 'this person was before me'. This will endear you to the bar staff and you will most likely be the next to be served. Another thing. It's a misconception by some that because 'pub' is an abbreviation of public house, as a member of the public, you have a public right on the premises. It's a private house with a license to open to the public. In the old sense of the term. There are obviously laws which a pub has to abide by, but other than that, the pub owner/ manager is the authority and says what goes.
If I come into a pub where you are I will try to embarrass you. I will ask for an autograph and selfie while loudly proclaiming "Wow, its Yvette from Neighbours, cool" and then walk to the other side of the pub to watch you, with an Australian accent try to explain that you are not in neighbours - every Australian is 😂.
Hiya. Each person in the group sticks, say, 20 quid in a 'kitty', then nobody has to worry about rounds and each can drink at his/her own pace and as much or as little as they want. The 'kitty' can be renewed, if necessary, but it's not a drinking contest, it's an evening out with friends, don't forget. Food is generally ordered and paid for on an individual basis as I find not everybody wants to eat or wants to eat at the same time. OK, I've blathered enough. Stay safe. All the best to you.
A lot of people don't like kittys as they can be unfair. e.g. if people are drinking at different rates, someones on soft drinks, someone wants a chaser, etc. If everyone is having much the same then they're o.k but otherwise I prefer to avoid them.
Kittys don't solve most of the "problems" associated with rounds really. All that happens with a kitty is that you effectively all pay for your rounds in advance. In my experience you almost always put in the same amount each (at the start and "renewal") and you almost always still actually "buy rounds" because someone still has to go to the bar and quicker drinkers will want to do that more often but will still ask everyone else what they want (because they're dipping into a joint pot). Unless you each put in different amounts it still ends up being better/worse value for some - if that doesn't bother anyone in the group at all then fantastic. But that'd _also_ be true for rounds. Rounds work fine as they are basically, all that's required is a bit of frank communication (sure, I get that some English folk would rather poke out their own eyes :) and everyone trying to avoid taking the piss. Which is pretty much exactly how it works already (again, in my experience). Though I totally get that to someone not used to it the "system" may seem intimidating and prone to unfairness, in reality it works fine 99% of the time - in fact, i'd say people usually tend to bend over backwards _not_ to take the piss (so e.g. "strangers" to a group will often buy a round early because they know they may not see most of the group again and don't want to appear to free-ride).
If there's four or five in the company then rounds but if a larger company then we just kitty up and if any money left at the end of the night it's shared out or given to bar staff
Questions that I dread in pub quizzes is when there are technically right answers that I just know the quiz master won't have and most of the pub patrons will go for. For example, when did USA gain independence? Everyone thinks 1776, when it was technically 1784. Another would be, what is the capital of South Africa? Everyone thinks Cape Town, but technically they have three capitals with Pretoria and Bloemfontein being the other two.
Order list, on night out: 2 pints of Guinness, 3 pints of bitter, 3 pints of lager, 1 pint of scrumpy (cider), 1 bottle of fruity cider, 2 G & Ts, 1 vodka and tonic, 1 vodka and orange, 2 white wines (1 medium dry), 2 red wines (not French), 1 Bailey's with ice, 1 snowball, 2 cokes (yuk), 1 tonic water, 1 pernod and lime, 2 packets of pork scratchings, 2 packets of crisps (smoky bacon/prawn cocktail), 1 packet of dry-roasted peanuts and 1 pickled egg - and whatever the barperson drinks.
I was thinking the same. Didn’t realise how much I looked forward to Yvettes updates until the past couple of months without her. Hope you’re OK Yvette! :)
When ever i go...went to the pub I would always tank the bar staff when ordering my beer, also when i go back inside from the beer garden will bring in the empties (if i'm not too pissed). tho you forgot one rule...and that's when someone accidentally breaks a glass, the pub has chime in
the rounds debate is a good one, i think like me and my mates have a kitty we all chuck a tenner in and one or two people are responsible for the money not neccessarily getting the drinks and when it runs out you all put another tenner in and what gets left over is either roughly given back or just used for food or in our case a taxi for a friend who isnt so lacal
the round system doesn't matter if you loose out or not...if you are only going in for one beer and you see a couple of fellas that you know you should still offer them a pint. The only exception I think is if you have just bought a round but you have drank yours faster than your round mates...If you buy a drink in a pud and you know someone there you should offer them a drink at least...99 times out of 100 this is reciprocated either that day or at some point down the line.
I always say no when a round starts, my mates drink like fish and it takes me an hour to drink a pint so I never opt in, I'd rather just go to bar myself and get myself a drink. It's easier and I can keep check of my dosh and pace myself, there is no law that u have to join a round 😅
If you don’t want to have too many drinks, get the first or second round in. Then you can always refuse or my preferred it to say “no I’m alright I’ve still got one on the go!” But as you already have your round in then people are less likely to get offended, you still run the risk but you should be good! I do lose out a little but it the cost of not liking alcohol.
Sometimes you'll get more than one round system within a group as some might start later or plan to leave earlier or drink at different speeds. Sometimes the women will have their own rounds and the men will have theirs. It's whatever is convenient and fair. If you accidentally miss buying a round you can just catch up later. In large groups pub crawling, some of the group may be at the next pub while some are still finishing at the previous. Teetotallers will often get their own or be excused from a full turn every now and then. With one group I always arrived first, got my own drink and then bought drinks for each arrival. For some reason some people didn't like me doing that but I'm not sure what difference consistently getting a first round made to anyone except myself who finishing my drink earlier sometimes meant I had to wait longer for the next round or buy an extra 'intermediate' drink for myself.
- The basic rule of rounds is common courtesy and fairness. i.e. nobody likes a scrounger. With friends you go out with regularly these should even up over time. e.g. If I'm out with four other friends and we have three rounds then the next time we go out the people who didn't buy one will get the first ones in next time. If someone is only having half a coke they won't be expected to get as many rounds in as that wouldn't be fair, etc. - If you don't want to get into a round e.g. You're skint, driving, aren't staying long, etc, then that's fine, just say so at the start. - When it comes to rounds for large groups many people prefer to split into several smaller groups e.g. 3-4 people rather than buying for a dozen. - If someone's the designated driver it's quite common to buy them a soft drink as a thank you. - I tend to get into rounds with friends who drink at a similar pace, but if a couple of my friends have finished their drinks and I'm only half way through mine and it's my round I'll get them drinks but only get a half for myself or perhaps leave myself out or get a soft drink if I'm not in the mood. - If anyone in the round is getting a Guiness or real ale order those first as they take longer to pour and need to settle. - Bar staff appreciate it if you take your empty glasses back to the bar, especially when it's busy. - When it comes to kids and dogs it's at the publicans discretion whether they allow them. Ask at the bar first before bringing them in. For those that do they normally only allow kids in the restaurant area and beer garden, not in the main bar. 16-17 year olds can legally have wine, beer or cider with a meal if accompanied by an adult and the adult buys it. - For any non Brits it's worth understanding there are different types of pubs e.g. 1) Locals. Often located in the back streets of a big city or perhaps a very isolated pub in the middle of nowhere. Traditionally these will have two main rooms the bar and the lounge. They rarely serve food except crisps or maybe a stale cheese sandwich. These are pubs which have regulars that go there on a frequent basis. Sometimes these people can be a bit territorial and don't welcome strangers. The locals hang out in the bar so it's best to either go to the Lounge or find a different pub if you want to avoid possible trouble. 2) Country pubs. These tend to have beer gardens, welcome families and dogs and get much of their income from pub meals so have good food. Often they are real ale pubs too. 3) Real ale pubs. Pubs which take pride in serving proper beer often from small breweries, rather than expensive gassy lager which tastes like horse piss. These often have beer festivals and guest beers. A barman in a good real pub will often allow you a taste of the beer before you choose your pint and may make recommendations if you tell him what you like. 4) Chain/theme pubs. Pubs owned by large chains like Weatherspoons, Yates, Irish themed pubs, etc. The managers are told what they can serve by the chain (both beer and food if applicable). Basically the MacDonalds/KFC of the pub world. Generally the quality isn't as good as the independent pubs. 5) Sports bars. Pubs which get business by attracting sports fans. Will have big screen TVs playing the big sports events, especially football.
Good summary, though "find a different pub if you want to avoid possible trouble" - I think local English pubs are almost never dangerous to strangers, but they may feel a bit uncomfortable/unwelcoming.
The beer mat on a pint glass doesn't mean the table not available it just means you don't sit down on that seat and with kids there is a area in the pub the family can sit in or they just sit in the beer garden , pubs with no family area children are not allowed in at all .
I remember going into a pub in a small village in Norfolk, and all the punters stopped talking and turned to look at us. Perhaps they don't get many strangers there.
What we usually do when there's someone who is only stopping for a few they would normally get the first or second round in, or if my mates Mrs comes with us she might only have 2 drinks out of 6 rounds and she would always offer to get her own. But we all know that hardly ever happens hahaha. I guess it all depends on the friendship and if you can afford it, if one of our mates is low on money one week we would just tell him to come pub and don't worry about getting a round in
When it comes to rounds, you have to make it clear from the start that you want to stay by yourself, whatever you do always make sure you buy every one a round first before you decide you no longer want to be part of it, its the quickest way to piss people off if you do.
You may be amused to learn that, if you do not want to be involved in rounds, you can opt out. Declare "AUSSIE Rules !". It means "Don't buy for me, I will just get my own.
As someone who is allergic to alcohol rounds are a bit difficult for me, generally if I'm meeting up with friends I'll say I'll get the first round. I'll get myself a none carbonated soft drink, nurse it for a round or 2 and then ask the friend whose going up for the next round to get me a bottle of still mineral water. In regards to tech and children in pubs, there are three types of pubs (or more specifically 3 types of pub landperson); 1. No tech, no children (most common with super rural pubs, these are also usually the pubs that stop serving food at 2pm and start back up around 5/6pm) 2. No tech but only allows kids above 12 in most days (these are common in small areas with several pubs) And 3. The family friendly, whilst this is the most common types in the last few months (pre global lockdown) some pubs have been warning parents that if they don't look up from the vortex also known as their phone and control their child(ren) they may face being banned. Also around the whole phones and pub quiz thing, not sure how many quizmaster do this but the one that used to do the one at my local (I haven't been in a couple years so the person may have changed) always used to go around beforehand and ask for competitors phones.
What's a Landperson? It's always Guvnor or Landlord, if female, Landlady. Where this term came from I am not sure but could be down to that the Pub was the only premises in the village not owned by the Lord or Lady of the Manor, the church would have been gifted and the vicars stipend paid by the Estate.
Not been to a pub quiz where they take competitors' phones (I don't see many people complying to be honest - not necessarily to cheat, just because these days most would see the length of a pub quiz as a long time to be out of touch with e.g. babysitters etc.) though i've been to a couple where things got a bit heated over googling answers.
Doing rounds is also a way of caring for each other. If you know someone struggling financially the table will conspire for that person to be last and everyone will leave before it's their round and just say that's okay you can get them next time. In local pubs where everyone knows each other regulars might leave a drink at the bar for a pensioner who comes in most days for the company and warmth.
In the US the only time most guys buy drinks for people is if he's trying to pick up a hot girl. Very rarely does a guy buy another guy a drink, it's usually a drink for a woman. Some guys also think that if they buy a woman enough drinks, they can get her drunk and have sex with her, since alcohol lowers inhibitions. If I ever had a daughter, I would not allow her to set foot in a bar or pub, because many of the guys are sexual predators.
Easy way to get out of ether buying a round on you want to stop drinking is to buy a round then when someone says it my round just say no I'm okay then thay dont feel mugged off and you dont have to drink anymore or you could just say no thx I've had enough I'll get one next time
Answer for the rounds question: get a non alcoholic drink when your done with alcohol, you can opt out of rounds and just buy your own is another answer
Call me old fashioned but, when at the pub in mixed company, the men buy the drinks and ladies are never allowed to go to the bar and buy drinks. Kids in pubs, as far as I know they are not allowed in the public bar, but are in the room where food is served.
Not sure why I’m watching this lol I know my way round a pub, but I’d slightly disagree with regard to taking glasses… Brewery’s put their branding on pint glasses knowing fully well they’ll get pinched (free advertising!) pubs get them for free when buying in draught
I've found that as long as you get your round in you don't personally have to have a drink every round. Anyone that expects you to get drunk because they are is a dick. It's probably misogynistic but in a mixed group the men probably wouldn't expect the ladies to buy rounds anyway, in an attempt to be chivalrous. Designated drivers are usually exempt from rounds.
I agree, she has a great personality. You have a beautiful face and a last name that appears to be German. Is your last name German? I live in the US where most of the population came from German ancestry due to mass immigration in the 1800's, and your name looks German. My great Grandmother was full blood German and nearly everyone in the US has German ancestry. German is #1, Irish #2, and English #3.
If I saw a drinks coaster on top of a pint, I'd think someone couldn't take anymore alcohol and gone home...learnt something today, I think you covered 90% of pub etiquette, the other local 10% will come in the comments I guess 👍😉
It's not uncommon for women to drop out or don't enter into rounds with men. You do need to give the person going for the drinks the money for yours. So take a bit of change and not just notes. It's not the pubs name, it's usually the drinks name on the glasses, especially in pints. There are still plenty of drinking dens that children aren't allowed but unfortunately you probably wouldn't want them in those pubs.
And if you’re a bloke you order the pint first, then you can have a sneaky one at the bar whilst you wait for the other drinks 😂 or is that just a northern thing?
Hi Yvette. Firstly picking up on something you mentioned on another vid. Glad you are well and in better health again. Re: Rounds. As others have said you can opt out of a round and not cause offence. Usually the person getting the drinks will ask if you are sure once or twice then accept it. It is also fine to change drink so if you want to limit alcohol and swap to a soft drink or coke it is fine. A couple of phrases you didn't mention and may not have heard is "stand your round" (making sure you get a round in and don't try to avoid it) and "it's my shout" which simply means it is your turn or you are volunteering to get the next round of drinks. This avoids the awkwardness of who's round is it? Another thing you may not have come across, partly because it is becoming less common (l realised l have been drinking longer than you have been alive.... I'm getting so old! 😂) is the phrase "leave one in the pipe." This is/was used predominantly in quiet pubs or bars. Usually if you and your drinking companion(s) are sitting or standing at the bar. So you have two people at the bar, but it can be more. It is my round next and l am coming to the end of my drink but my fellow drinker(s) have a lot to drink still. Rather than wait for the other person/group to finish which could be a while l order the round and say to the bar person, and a pint of (enter drink) and leave it in the pipe. I would get my pint, the other remains unpoured and l pay for both drinks. When my companion empties or is about to finish their drink l or they would ask for their drink which is poured and served to them. Obviously it is essential the same person serves them as they know that the unpoured drink is outstanding. Depending on the time of day/night you are drinking it is advisable to be aware if there is a change of shift. If you know the bar person is going off shift you confirm another bar person is aware that one is owed. As l said this method is less common these days. A slight varient is the order and leave. I am out with a group and have to leave before l get a round in. I take the order/round, say goodbye and head to the bar. I place order and pay and make clear it is not for now someone from my table group will come for them in a while. If there are a few bar staff l quickly go back to table/group and let one of them know which bar person l spoke to and is aware of my order l paid for.
@@dave_h_8742 Rubbish. It's fine to ask. However personally I would have added "If you don't mind me asking" out of politeness. Obviously up to Yvette if she wants to respond but there's no harm in asking as long as you do so politely.
Well you would use your common sense and not sit at a table with drinks on or is that just a northern thing. Also if someone gets themselves snacks I wouldn’t expect them to get me some as well. And oh yeah no filter at all in the pub well very minimum there limits. Locals tend to have there own seats and are friends with the bar tenders n the owners. As a bartender I always look after to the locals n I’ve work as one long time n Americans are typically are the ones to cause problems and glasses are free mostly because they are normally supplied by a brewery (supplier) and please never click or whistle at staff you might get a nasty response especially up north and consequences can vary on the person and weather it’s a local village pub or a pub in a town. Personally I poured a drink on a lass that whistled at my several time as politely asking to come to bar to order coz we didn’t do table service.
Are there 'Bathrooms' in pubs? Do you bring a towel, soap and shampoo? You think Brits go to the pub to have a bath? So to you a pub is a bit like public baths with booze, how strange. Oh! You mean toilet/lavatory/gents/ladies/loo - I think. Maybe you're an American masquerading as an Australian?
When it comes to rounds, you have to make it clear from the start that you want to stay by yourself, whatever you do always make sure you buy every one a round first before you decide you no longer want to be part of it, its the quickest way to piss people off if you do.
I'm amazed at myself/ourselves. I've been going to pubs for over 60 years and never realised it was a culture or it was something that someone needed to give instructions on. Strange isn't it, to find that popping down the local for a quick pint with your mates is an activity that requires an educational video?
Once you know people then rounds are not quite as strict. People will know you are not trying to avoid paying so it evens out over weeks and months. They also recognise the opposite, those who regularly do avoid paying. You then have a choice what to do. If they are financially struggling most people just ignore it.
There's always one who times their round so that they get it in a pub that saves them 80p, but yeah, most of us aren't bothered unless they leave immediately before it's their round. Oh to have these problems now, we're going to have to learn the etiquette all over again in the future.
If I'm short of time or money I'll just say 'I'm going Dutch Guys' meaning thanks for the offer but not for me. Yvette makes a point I'd never considered, that of trust in terms of rounds being returned as you'll generally reach that level of confidence with someone else before buying a round or conversely slipping a friend £20 discretely to pay for 'their' round.
If you say at the start of the night that you will buy your own, maybe because you have to leave early, nobody will mind
Was just gonna say the same thing. Forewarned is forearmed, although you'll probably be asked if you're sure you have to go 😂 (because your mates wanna spend a bit more time with you, not for any financial reason) 👍🏽.
As a bonus, if you're able to do what you need to, and pull a surprise return = you will be the man/woman of the hour (especially if you loudly announce upon re-entry "right, all sorted! What's everyone having?") 🤣
When I was young the 'girls' were neither expected to buy a round nor have a drink every round. It was the men that had to buy the rounds, which had to include all the girls in the group if they wanted one.
That's the result of emancipation.
Don’t forget leaving a pound on the pool table means you are reserving your spot to play the next game! Also pubs will have a bell that is rung about half hour before closing meaning last calls, this is where you can order one last time before they stop serving.
with pubs closing at various times these days, i'm not sure there is always last orders, and drinking up time.
if ur not drinking the cocktail, always order ur pint first so u can drink one by the time theyve made the cocktail and then order another pint
I'd also say, if you are going to being placing a large round and the staff are rushed and bar area quite busy, ask the persons next to you if they they are ordering a single drink or small round and say for them to go before you. It's just common courtesy. The bar person will likely still come to you, but you simply state or gesticulate that your okay with them going first.
That being said, if someone does ask if you are placing a small order, don't say yes, and then give a large order to the bar person. That's just not cool.
You don't have to share your snacks, but if you are going to the bar to get some, again if your doing rounds or not, ask the table if they want anything getting while your up.
When I moved to Oz, mid 90's, the biggest difference I feel is, when you go to the pub in England, you go to wind down, relax and socialise, possibly on the way home from work, in time for happy hour.
In Oz, I found people get pumped up to go to the pub and probably have several drinks before they even get there. I found the Aussie country pub culture with the locals to have some similarities to English pub culture.
The pubs in Oz have nowhere near the atmosphere of those in the U.K. Most are bland by comparison.
I think you got it spot on, it's much the same north and south , plus I love that saying "if that's the hill you want to die on" ...I use that now as well 🤣🤣
It is important to bear in mind that there are many types of pubs, so don't go into one and expect them to all be the same. City/town pubs, country pubs, seaside pubs, local pubs. Big pubs, small pubs, chain pubs, independent pubs. Also, the pub that you might love to go to for lunch could feel entirely different if you go there at night.
Apart from the well known brands, expect to find regional beers. So if you order a pint of locally brewed bitter in a pub in Devon it will be different to a pint of bitter in Yorkshire. Embrace and enjoy local beer.
If you have to leave before getting a round in, make sure that you get in first to say it's my round when you next go out.
Hey lass. I hope your keeping safe and well. Not seen any new videos for a while and hope everything is okay.
That's not to say to go make a video, I just was thinking I hadn't seen any and thought I'd post to say I and I'm sure the rest of us, hope your okay.
Any way, happy new year, take care and all the best.
You've done well to cover pub behaviour in a real sense Yvette. Good observation. As other comments say, rounds are not expected to be a strict contract. You can opt out at the start. You can have 3 drinks in a five person round and the leave before paying out for your round if you are with your regular group who will know you'll balance it up another time. At the end of the month, someone will have paid the most and someone the least, but it shouldn't be a vast difference. Don't are; don't repeatedly dodge your round and don't be the one with the calculator.
I've been on both sides of the bar and I used to be a pub manager for four years. On busy nights when there's a crowd four people deep pressing up to the bar. I would have the bar staff take a section of bar so they can better recognise the order of the people waiting for a drink. That's why some people further down the bar think there are staff are ignoring them.
Also, if you are part of the mass of people crushed up to the bar and the bar staff look to take your order, when you know the person next to you was really before you, then it is courteous to say 'this person was before me'. This will endear you to the bar staff and you will most likely be the next to be served.
Another thing. It's a misconception by some that because 'pub' is an abbreviation of public house, as a member of the public, you have a public right on the premises. It's a private house with a license to open to the public. In the old sense of the term. There are obviously laws which a pub has to abide by, but other than that, the pub owner/ manager is the authority and says what goes.
If I come into a pub where you are I will try to embarrass you. I will ask for an autograph and selfie while loudly proclaiming "Wow, its Yvette from Neighbours, cool" and then walk to the other side of the pub to watch you, with an Australian accent try to explain that you are not in neighbours - every Australian is 😂.
Hiya. Each person in the group sticks, say, 20 quid in a 'kitty', then nobody has to worry about rounds and each can drink at his/her own pace and as much or as little as they want. The 'kitty' can be renewed, if necessary, but it's not a drinking contest, it's an evening out with friends, don't forget. Food is generally ordered and paid for on an individual basis as I find not everybody wants to eat or wants to eat at the same time. OK, I've blathered enough. Stay safe. All the best to you.
A lot of people don't like kittys as they can be unfair. e.g. if people are drinking at different rates, someones on soft drinks, someone wants a chaser, etc. If everyone is having much the same then they're o.k but otherwise I prefer to avoid them.
@@speleokeir - My friends and I aren't bothered by any of that. All the best to you.
@@Andy_U As long as everyone is happy with what's decided that's all that matters.
Kittys don't solve most of the "problems" associated with rounds really. All that happens with a kitty is that you effectively all pay for your rounds in advance. In my experience you almost always put in the same amount each (at the start and "renewal") and you almost always still actually "buy rounds" because someone still has to go to the bar and quicker drinkers will want to do that more often but will still ask everyone else what they want (because they're dipping into a joint pot). Unless you each put in different amounts it still ends up being better/worse value for some - if that doesn't bother anyone in the group at all then fantastic. But that'd _also_ be true for rounds.
Rounds work fine as they are basically, all that's required is a bit of frank communication (sure, I get that some English folk would rather poke out their own eyes :) and everyone trying to avoid taking the piss. Which is pretty much exactly how it works already (again, in my experience). Though I totally get that to someone not used to it the "system" may seem intimidating and prone to unfairness, in reality it works fine 99% of the time - in fact, i'd say people usually tend to bend over backwards _not_ to take the piss (so e.g. "strangers" to a group will often buy a round early because they know they may not see most of the group again and don't want to appear to free-ride).
If there's four or five in the company then rounds but if a larger company then we just kitty up and if any money left at the end of the night it's shared out or given to bar staff
The bell 🔔 for last rounds not all pubs do this. But most will call last rounds about 1hr to 30mins before closing
Questions that I dread in pub quizzes is when there are technically right answers that I just know the quiz master won't have and most of the pub patrons will go for.
For example, when did USA gain independence? Everyone thinks 1776, when it was technically 1784.
Another would be, what is the capital of South Africa? Everyone thinks Cape Town, but technically they have three capitals with Pretoria and Bloemfontein being the other two.
Order list, on night out: 2 pints of Guinness, 3 pints of bitter, 3 pints of lager, 1 pint of scrumpy (cider), 1 bottle of fruity cider, 2 G & Ts, 1 vodka and tonic, 1 vodka and orange, 2 white wines (1 medium dry), 2 red wines (not French), 1 Bailey's with ice, 1 snowball, 2 cokes (yuk), 1 tonic water, 1 pernod and lime, 2 packets of pork scratchings, 2 packets of crisps (smoky bacon/prawn cocktail), 1 packet of dry-roasted peanuts and 1 pickled egg - and whatever the barperson drinks.
Haven't seen you around YT lately, hope your fine and everything is o.k. :)
I was thinking the same. Didn’t realise how much I looked forward to Yvettes updates until the past couple of months without her.
Hope you’re OK Yvette! :)
When ever i go...went to the pub I would always tank the bar staff when ordering my beer, also when i go back inside from the beer garden will bring in the empties (if i'm not too pissed).
tho you forgot one rule...and that's when someone accidentally breaks a glass, the pub has chime in
the rounds debate is a good one, i think like me and my mates have a kitty we all chuck a tenner in and one or two people are responsible for the money not neccessarily getting the drinks and when it runs out you all put another tenner in and what gets left over is either roughly given back or just used for food or in our case a taxi for a friend who isnt so lacal
the round system doesn't matter if you loose out or not...if you are only going in for one beer and you see a couple of fellas that you know you should still offer them a pint. The only exception I think is if you have just bought a round but you have drank yours faster than your round mates...If you buy a drink in a pud and you know someone there you should offer them a drink at least...99 times out of 100 this is reciprocated either that day or at some point down the line.
I always say no when a round starts, my mates drink like fish and it takes me an hour to drink a pint so I never opt in, I'd rather just go to bar myself and get myself a drink. It's easier and I can keep check of my dosh and pace myself, there is no law that u have to join a round 😅
If you don’t want to have too many drinks, get the first or second round in. Then you can always refuse or my preferred it to say “no I’m alright I’ve still got one on the go!” But as you already have your round in then people are less likely to get offended, you still run the risk but you should be good! I do lose out a little but it the cost of not liking alcohol.
If you work in retail or hospitality (including take aways etc) give me massive HELL YEAH!!!
Sometimes you'll get more than one round system within a group as some might start later or plan to leave earlier or drink at different speeds. Sometimes the women will have their own rounds and the men will have theirs. It's whatever is convenient and fair. If you accidentally miss buying a round you can just catch up later. In large groups pub crawling, some of the group may be at the next pub while some are still finishing at the previous. Teetotallers will often get their own or be excused from a full turn every now and then.
With one group I always arrived first, got my own drink and then bought drinks for each arrival. For some reason some people didn't like me doing that but I'm not sure what difference consistently getting a first round made to anyone except myself who finishing my drink earlier sometimes meant I had to wait longer for the next round or buy an extra 'intermediate' drink for myself.
The people behind the bar typically know all the regulars and what each one drinks.
@Newtube could be the landlord in some of the smaller pub
- The basic rule of rounds is common courtesy and fairness. i.e. nobody likes a scrounger. With friends you go out with regularly these should even up over time. e.g. If I'm out with four other friends and we have three rounds then the next time we go out the people who didn't buy one will get the first ones in next time. If someone is only having half a coke they won't be expected to get as many rounds in as that wouldn't be fair, etc.
- If you don't want to get into a round e.g. You're skint, driving,
aren't staying long, etc, then that's fine, just say so at the start.
- When it comes to rounds for large groups many people prefer to split into several smaller groups e.g. 3-4 people rather than buying for a dozen.
- If someone's the designated driver it's quite common to buy them a soft drink as a thank you.
- I tend to get into rounds with friends who drink at a similar pace, but if a couple of my friends have finished their drinks and I'm only half way through mine and it's my round I'll get them drinks but only get a half for myself or perhaps leave myself out or get a soft drink if I'm not in the mood.
- If anyone in the round is getting a Guiness or real ale order those first as they take longer to pour and need to settle.
- Bar staff appreciate it if you take your empty glasses back to the bar, especially when it's busy.
- When it comes to kids and dogs it's at the publicans discretion whether they allow them. Ask at the bar first before bringing them in. For those that do they normally only allow kids in the restaurant area and beer garden, not in the main bar. 16-17 year olds can legally have wine, beer or cider with a meal if accompanied by an adult and the adult buys it.
- For any non Brits it's worth understanding there are different types of pubs e.g.
1) Locals. Often located in the back streets of a big city or perhaps a very isolated pub in the middle of nowhere. Traditionally these will have two main rooms the bar and the lounge. They rarely serve food except crisps or maybe a stale cheese sandwich. These are pubs which have regulars that go there on a frequent basis. Sometimes these people can be a bit territorial and don't welcome strangers. The locals hang out in the bar so it's best to either go to the Lounge or find a different pub if you want to avoid possible trouble.
2) Country pubs. These tend to have beer gardens, welcome families and dogs and get much of their income from pub meals so have good food. Often they are real ale pubs too.
3) Real ale pubs. Pubs which take pride in serving proper beer often from small breweries, rather than expensive gassy lager which tastes like horse piss. These often have beer festivals and guest beers. A barman in a good real pub will often allow you a taste of the beer before you choose your pint and may make recommendations if you tell him what you like.
4) Chain/theme pubs. Pubs owned by large chains like Weatherspoons, Yates, Irish themed pubs, etc. The managers are told what they can serve by the chain (both beer and food if applicable). Basically the MacDonalds/KFC of the pub world. Generally the quality isn't as good as the independent pubs.
5) Sports bars. Pubs which get business by attracting sports fans. Will have big screen TVs playing the big sports events, especially football.
Good summary, though "find a different pub if you want to avoid possible trouble" - I think local English pubs are almost never dangerous to strangers, but they may feel a bit uncomfortable/unwelcoming.
The beer mat on a pint glass doesn't mean the table not available it just means you don't sit down on that seat and with kids there is a area in the pub the family can sit in or they just sit in the beer garden , pubs with no family area children are not allowed in at all .
I remember going into a pub in a small village in Norfolk, and all the punters stopped talking and turned to look at us. Perhaps they don't get many strangers there.
If you're a regular then you expect the barman/barmaid to start pulling your preferred pint before you even reach the bar.
What we usually do when there's someone who is only stopping for a few they would normally get the first or second round in, or if my mates Mrs comes with us she might only have 2 drinks out of 6 rounds and she would always offer to get her own. But we all know that hardly ever happens hahaha. I guess it all depends on the friendship and if you can afford it, if one of our mates is low on money one week we would just tell him to come pub and don't worry about getting a round in
When it comes to rounds, you have to make it clear from the start that you want to stay by yourself, whatever you do always make sure you buy every one a round first before you decide you no longer want to be part of it, its the quickest way to piss people off if you do.
I started with 6 ales in York once. It ended with 6 ales on the mattress.
I'm not sure about pubs in the south but here in Sheffield most have their own football teams and help sponsor local junior teams.
I don't think pubs are much different based on region but they are different on types of region, i.e. big city, rural, tourist, family.
Children are only allowed in a pub up to 9pm.
In a northen club you can get that's John's seat and John's been dead for 5 years. Heaven help you if you try to take that seat.
"Pub closing at 12".... those were the days.
You may be amused to learn that, if you do not want to be involved in rounds, you can opt out. Declare "AUSSIE Rules !". It means "Don't buy for me, I will just get my own.
As someone who is allergic to alcohol rounds are a bit difficult for me, generally if I'm meeting up with friends I'll say I'll get the first round. I'll get myself a none carbonated soft drink, nurse it for a round or 2 and then ask the friend whose going up for the next round to get me a bottle of still mineral water. In regards to tech and children in pubs, there are three types of pubs (or more specifically 3 types of pub landperson);
1. No tech, no children (most common with super rural pubs, these are also usually the pubs that stop serving food at 2pm and start back up around 5/6pm)
2. No tech but only allows kids above 12 in most days (these are common in small areas with several pubs)
And 3. The family friendly, whilst this is the most common types in the last few months (pre global lockdown) some pubs have been warning parents that if they don't look up from the vortex also known as their phone and control their child(ren) they may face being banned.
Also around the whole phones and pub quiz thing, not sure how many quizmaster do this but the one that used to do the one at my local (I haven't been in a couple years so the person may have changed) always used to go around beforehand and ask for competitors phones.
What's a Landperson? It's always Guvnor or Landlord, if female, Landlady. Where this term came from I am not sure but could be down to that the Pub was the only premises in the village not owned by the Lord or Lady of the Manor, the church would have been gifted and the vicars stipend paid by the Estate.
Not been to a pub quiz where they take competitors' phones (I don't see many people complying to be honest - not necessarily to cheat, just because these days most would see the length of a pub quiz as a long time to be out of touch with e.g. babysitters etc.) though i've been to a couple where things got a bit heated over googling answers.
Doing rounds is also a way of caring for each other. If you know someone struggling financially the table will conspire for that person to be last and everyone will leave before it's their round and just say that's okay you can get them next time.
In local pubs where everyone knows each other regulars might leave a drink at the bar for a pensioner who comes in most days for the company and warmth.
Lots of stuff in England goes unspoken between people.
In the US the only time most guys buy drinks for people is if he's trying to pick up a hot girl. Very rarely does a guy buy another guy a drink, it's usually a drink for a woman. Some guys also think that if they buy a woman enough drinks, they can get her drunk and have sex with her, since alcohol lowers inhibitions. If I ever had a daughter, I would not allow her to set foot in a bar or pub, because many of the guys are sexual predators.
Easy way to get out of ether buying a round on you want to stop drinking is to buy a round then when someone says it my round just say no I'm okay then thay dont feel mugged off and you dont have to drink anymore or you could just say no thx I've had enough I'll get one next time
Answer for the rounds question: get a non alcoholic drink when your done with alcohol, you can opt out of rounds and just buy your own is another answer
All you say is,i will stay on my own
Call me old fashioned but, when at the pub in mixed company, the men buy the drinks and ladies are never allowed to go to the bar and buy drinks.
Kids in pubs, as far as I know they are not allowed in the public bar, but are in the room where food is served.
It was like that in the 1980s, you don't really see that so much any more.
Not sure why I’m watching this lol I know my way round a pub, but I’d slightly disagree with regard to taking glasses…
Brewery’s put their branding on pint glasses knowing fully well they’ll get pinched (free advertising!) pubs get them for free when buying in draught
You can say you are just having a couple of drinks so you will get your own. This is acceptable
I've found that as long as you get your round in you don't personally have to have a drink every round. Anyone that expects you to get drunk because they are is a dick.
It's probably misogynistic but in a mixed group the men probably wouldn't expect the ladies to buy rounds anyway, in an attempt to be chivalrous.
Designated drivers are usually exempt from rounds.
You have a Great personality!!! Love your videos!! Thank you!!
I agree, she has a great personality. You have a beautiful face and a last name that appears to be German. Is your last name German? I live in the US where most of the population came from German ancestry due to mass immigration in the 1800's, and your name looks German. My great Grandmother was full blood German and nearly everyone in the US has German ancestry. German is #1, Irish #2, and English #3.
If you would like a glass just ask. You will be surprised how often they will quite happily agree.
3:49 order water as a Chaser drink
If I saw a drinks coaster on top of a pint, I'd think someone couldn't take anymore alcohol and gone home...learnt something today, I think you covered 90% of pub etiquette, the other local 10% will come in the comments I guess 👍😉
Nice video and probably good for foreign visitors but as a local I did not agree with most of it :-)
If you don't want a lot of drinks and take part in the rounds just say so , no one will think bad of you .
Up north we don’t tend to buy the woman a drink. That’s why we’re not fond of blokes bringing them.
Nice seeing you. I hope you don't get offended but I don't like beer. My husband is from Europe and he loves beer.
opt out of rounds before you start drinking, so then if someone buys u the drink they dont expect one back
Just try to imagine you are the barman/barmaid and howto make his/her job easier. He/she will appreciate it and all will go quicker and smoother!
im an aussie but i find the saying piece of kit intresting w e dont have a word for that
It's not uncommon for women to drop out or don't enter into rounds with men. You do need to give the person going for the drinks the money for yours. So take a bit of change and not just notes.
It's not the pubs name, it's usually the drinks name on the glasses, especially in pints.
There are still plenty of drinking dens that children aren't allowed but unfortunately you probably wouldn't want them in those pubs.
Yeah, it's like a dictatorship: I don't drink at all, can you imagine?
And if you’re a bloke you order the pint first, then you can have a sneaky one at the bar whilst you wait for the other drinks 😂 or is that just a northern thing?
Just a Northern thing LOL!!!
You are loverly we are lucky to have you in England
Hi Yvette.
Firstly picking up on something you mentioned on another vid.
Glad you are well and in better health again.
Re: Rounds.
As others have said you can opt out of a round and not cause offence. Usually the person getting the drinks will ask if you are sure once or twice then accept it. It is also fine to change drink so if you want to limit alcohol and swap to a soft drink or coke it is fine.
A couple of phrases you didn't mention and may not have heard is "stand your round" (making sure you get a round in and don't try to avoid it) and "it's my shout" which simply means it is your turn or you are volunteering to get the next round of drinks. This avoids the awkwardness of who's round is it?
Another thing you may not have come across, partly because it is becoming less common (l realised l have been drinking longer than you have been alive.... I'm getting so old! 😂) is the phrase "leave one in the pipe."
This is/was used predominantly in quiet pubs or bars. Usually if you and your drinking companion(s) are sitting or standing at the bar.
So you have two people at the bar, but it can be more. It is my round next and l am coming to the end of my drink but my fellow drinker(s) have a lot to drink still. Rather than wait for the other person/group to finish which could be a while l order the round and say to the bar person, and a pint of (enter drink) and leave it in the pipe.
I would get my pint, the other remains unpoured and l pay for both drinks. When my companion empties or is about to finish their drink l or they would ask for their drink which is poured and served to them.
Obviously it is essential the same person serves them as they know that the unpoured drink is outstanding.
Depending on the time of day/night you are drinking it is advisable to be aware if there is a change of shift. If you know the bar person is going off shift you confirm another bar person is aware that one is owed.
As l said this method is less common these days.
A slight varient is the order and leave.
I am out with a group and have to leave before l get a round in. I take the order/round, say goodbye and head to the bar. I place order and pay and make clear it is not for now someone from my table group will come for them in a while.
If there are a few bar staff l quickly go back to table/group and let one of them know which bar person l spoke to and is aware of my order l paid for.
dont get me wrong you are right about put culture i am 65 you sound more english than me
People do want to be left alone in the pub, however at the bar chat is very acceptable
Rounds only some times its not a thing unless you know the people well.
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North, South, never really noticed much difference.
If you dont wanna be in the round just say your drinking for yourself.
What do you do for a living?
Never ask this.
Irrelevant, none of your buisness, never ask again. 😐
@@dave_h_8742 Rubbish. It's fine to ask. However personally I would have added "If you don't mind me asking" out of politeness. Obviously up to Yvette if she wants to respond but there's no harm in asking as long as you do so politely.
Well you would use your common sense and not sit at a table with drinks on or is that just a northern thing. Also if someone gets themselves snacks I wouldn’t expect them to get me some as well. And oh yeah no filter at all in the pub well very minimum there limits. Locals tend to have there own seats and are friends with the bar tenders n the owners. As a bartender I always look after to the locals n I’ve work as one long time n Americans are typically are the ones to cause problems and glasses are free mostly because they are normally supplied by a brewery (supplier) and please never click or whistle at staff you might get a nasty response especially up north and consequences can vary on the person and weather it’s a local village pub or a pub in a town. Personally I poured a drink on a lass that whistled at my several time as politely asking to come to bar to order coz we didn’t do table service.
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Are there 'Bathrooms' in pubs? Do you bring a towel, soap and shampoo? You think Brits go to the pub to have a bath? So to you a pub is a bit like public baths with booze, how strange. Oh! You mean toilet/lavatory/gents/ladies/loo - I think. Maybe you're an American masquerading as an Australian?
Going to a pub to read a book? Really? 😆
Reading at home is much more cheaper and "peaceful". Just sayin'. 😀
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My god! you lost your aussie accent and picked up a posh English accent very quickly????
Middle Class English accent!
Not going to watch it all but the first 3 are bullshit
When it comes to rounds, you have to make it clear from the start that you want to stay by yourself, whatever you do always make sure you buy every one a round first before you decide you no longer want to be part of it, its the quickest way to piss people off if you do.