guy proulx If this was a Toyota demo, would they have to paint the pot metal frame rust coloured with black spots where the holes and cracks will appear? ;) I guess nobody's perfect!
megapascal is a term used specifically by the automotive industry and one megapascal is equal to about 145.037738 psi...i worked, as a kid, for four years in a machine shop and that one is new to me...anytime companys dont use industrial standards it makes me think they are trying to pull off a fast one...probably a liability issue
Pascal is metric stress unit that is widely used in all engineering applications, not a term specifically for automotive. It's just a different unit that is used in places other than the US and it's actually more universal for engineers.
unit of pressure,not stress! equal to one newton per square meter (approximately 0.000145 pounds per square inch, or 9.9 × 10-6 atmospheres)... and you said it...not common in the metal industry where we use rockwell and tensile...i see this as a way for the automotive industry to avoid legal liability...they can use inferior metals and avoid prosecution for the simple fact its not easy to convert or even possible to have a clear understanding of what the metals are capable of for the average lay person or legal team and btw im not sure where that 0.0000135047738 ends and if thats it it still a mathematical nightmare to convert for US courts
Stress is the term that engineers use in Solid Mechanics and Materials Science. Unit for pressure and stress are the same, but stress is the more appropriate term to describe the "internal pressure" under load in solid materials. Rockwell is one of the scales to measure the hardness of a solid and there are other scales such as Vickers and Brinell. The reason they use Metric unit is because it is more common in worldwide for engineers and scientists. The steel they use may come from a country that uses Metric system and produced with Metric units standards. If you convert the tensile stress of that roll of steel to Imperial unit, it is not going to end up whole numbers. Additionally, It's up to the the car manufactures to decide what kind of steel they use, however these crash tests do not lie. There is no conspiracy in this. I know that people are thought with Imperial units in US, but all engineers are expected to know both Metric and Imperial units. Imperial-Metric conversion is really easy with computers and both systems work just fine. I am an engineer and be honest with you Metric system is easier to work with since it's more intuitive.
Personally the reason I keep my old truck is that it doesnt crumple in a crash. If I get some broken bones and some bruises then whatever itll heal im young. Atleast my truck wont be totaled and look like an old beer can after it. I'm aware its supposed to be safer with the new steel and for some people thats fine. I just dont find safety that important when it comes to vehicles. Im fine with mine now and it has no airbags or crumple zones. But if you like that kind of steel and crumple zones etc. Go ahead and buy it.
For low speed collisions, old trucks may save you some money during repair. However the difference is life and death for speeds above 40mph. New vehicles aren't only safer, they are a lot safer than old ones. I'm not saying old cars are bad though.
***** Fair enough. I'm just gonna stick with my old truck. I think part of the problem as well is the lack of training to get a drivers license and lack of conservative drivers. I bet people would crash less if they werent tapping a touch screen in the car or on the phone texting. When I drive , i just drive. I may hit the button to change the radio station but thats it.
PDB123 first off, sir your own a killer car! And secondly I really like the way you talk. My point exactly. You may get a broken bone or two which will heal in time but todays cars crumple like an old billy beer can but you end up being scratch free.
Search out the crash test video of the modern Chevy Malibu vs an old '50's Chevy Bel Air. You might be very surprised at what modern tech is capable of.
This is typical across the industry. Companies are using more and more specialty steels as they try to balance ever increasing safety requirements, NVH, and chassis rigidity while at the same time removing weight from the vehicle. 30 years ago there might only be one or two grades of steel in a car's body. Now it isn't unusual to see a half dozen or more, depending on the needs of the designers.
Sorry, but this lady sounded like she had no idea what was going on. I get there are different needs in different parts in the truck, but i was kinda hoping for some useful information.
Honda builds vehicles much safer now days. But the other big manufacturers like GM, Ford, Toyota, Nissan etc.. are also are making safer vehicles with multiple kinds of steel. I think I'd rather be in a bigger 2017 full size truck with a steel bed in the event of a crash. Aluminum rips too easy.
Thank you Honda PhD lady for the great explanation.
Interesting steel use in that car...
I would feel much much safer in a Ridgeline than one of the GM twins in a crash
guy proulx If this was a Toyota demo, would they have to paint the pot metal frame rust coloured with black spots where the holes and cracks will appear? ;)
I guess nobody's perfect!
Slack Tastic Nope they're not perfect but they are as close as you will get to perfection
the honda is the safest truck or one of the safest
Its make like a car so to me its not a truck let say more of a crssover wan a be.
jamesz024 What does this have to do with the safety of the Ridgeline?
next one: Chrysler Pacifica "pick up truck"
People clicking on this are probably thinking TFL is going to reveal that Japanese trucks are made out of pot metal.
Expected more videos from you guys on TFL Truck. We want more!!!!!!!! :)
We are running the 2017 Ike Gauntlet runs now. You will get many more videos soon!
Awesome can't wait!
megapascal is a term used specifically by the automotive industry and one megapascal is equal to about 145.037738 psi...i worked, as a kid, for four years in a machine shop and that one is new to me...anytime companys dont use industrial standards it makes me think they are trying to pull off a fast one...probably a liability issue
Pascal is metric stress unit that is widely used in all engineering applications, not a term specifically for automotive. It's just a different unit that is used in places other than the US and it's actually more universal for engineers.
unit of pressure,not stress! equal to one newton per square meter (approximately 0.000145 pounds per square inch, or 9.9 × 10-6 atmospheres)... and you said it...not common in the metal industry where we use rockwell and tensile...i see this as a way for the automotive industry to avoid legal liability...they can use inferior metals and avoid prosecution for the simple fact its not easy to convert or even possible to have a clear understanding of what the metals are capable of for the average lay person or legal team and btw im not sure where that 0.0000135047738 ends and if thats it it still a mathematical nightmare to convert for US courts
Stress is the term that engineers use in Solid Mechanics and Materials Science. Unit for pressure and stress are the same, but stress is the more appropriate term to describe the "internal pressure" under load in solid materials. Rockwell is one of the scales to measure the hardness of a solid and there are other scales such as Vickers and Brinell. The reason they use Metric unit is because it is more common in worldwide for engineers and scientists. The steel they use may come from a country that uses Metric system and produced with Metric units standards. If you convert the tensile stress of that roll of steel to Imperial unit, it is not going to end up whole numbers. Additionally, It's up to the the car manufactures to decide what kind of steel they use, however these crash tests do not lie. There is no conspiracy in this. I know that people are thought with Imperial units in US, but all engineers are expected to know both Metric and Imperial units. Imperial-Metric conversion is really easy with computers and both systems work just fine. I am an engineer and be honest with you Metric system is easier to work with since it's more intuitive.
Megapascal is not uncommon at all. I would guess that more than half the prints that come across my desk are specified in MPa.
Made out of high strength chinesium allow
Great vid!
Thank you.
Personally the reason I keep my old truck is that it doesnt crumple in a crash. If I get some broken bones and some bruises then whatever itll heal im young. Atleast my truck wont be totaled and look like an old beer can after it. I'm aware its supposed to be safer with the new steel and for some people thats fine. I just dont find safety that important when it comes to vehicles. Im fine with mine now and it has no airbags or crumple zones. But if you like that kind of steel and crumple zones etc. Go ahead and buy it.
For low speed collisions, old trucks may save you some money during repair. However the difference is life and death for speeds above 40mph. New vehicles aren't only safer, they are a lot safer than old ones. I'm not saying old cars are bad though.
***** Fair enough. I'm just gonna stick with my old truck. I think part of the problem as well is the lack of training to get a drivers license and lack of conservative drivers. I bet people would crash less if they werent tapping a touch screen in the car or on the phone texting. When I drive , i just drive. I may hit the button to change the radio station but thats it.
Jimmy M I drive a 76 Cadillac, if I hit something I'll get a little dent but whatever I hit will look like Godzilla came and smacked it.
PDB123 first off, sir your own a killer car! And secondly I really like the way you talk. My point exactly. You may get a broken bone or two which will heal in time but todays cars crumple like an old billy beer can but you end up being scratch free.
Search out the crash test video of the modern Chevy Malibu vs an old '50's Chevy Bel Air. You might be very surprised at what modern tech is capable of.
This is typical across the industry. Companies are using more and more specialty steels as they try to balance ever increasing safety requirements, NVH, and chassis rigidity while at the same time removing weight from the vehicle. 30 years ago there might only be one or two grades of steel in a car's body. Now it isn't unusual to see a half dozen or more, depending on the needs of the designers.
and most people think the bed is separate from the cab. this is not a truck.
i'd feel safer in and F-150
Jimmy Orsund you would feel safer in the F-150 even after a huge brake recall?
Sorry, but this lady sounded like she had no idea what was going on. I get there are different needs in different parts in the truck, but i was kinda hoping for some useful information.
Honda builds vehicles much safer now days. But the other big manufacturers like GM, Ford, Toyota, Nissan etc.. are also are making safer vehicles with multiple kinds of steel. I think I'd rather be in a bigger 2017 full size truck with a steel bed in the event of a crash. Aluminum rips too easy.
Audioholic 01 have you seen the crash tests of aluminum vs. steel....Ford won over all others