One thing I’ve seen is a lot of people forgot that dagger’s shots bounce so if a teammate has hidden behind cover or is in a room then you can try bouncing it off the walls as the auto aim still kicks in and so if aimed with a relatively good angle then you can heal them when they’re out of sight
Getting stuck on small lips in the environment when they are floating in the Ult feels really bad. I've had it happen 2 or 3 times and now I make sure I jump before it every time.
A tip for the ultimate is you can ult from the sky and it will place the DOT area as if you were on the ground. Helps in not getting stuck and makes it more difficult to avoid.
First person I played fit my style and is weirdly op and balanced having little mobility and rewards high concentration across like 6 cooldowns while allowing so many play styles
It’s hard to see the value you give to your team with Cloak’s invisibility/invulnerability especially when you compare it to something like Suzu or Lamp which imo has more clear messaging in game
😂everytime i tried to use on my friend to save them from powerful ult im never sure if its work or not its need to highlight the teammate that are in ur range! Im lw main in ow2 so i really like this support
Unless the visual is bugged, I feel every time I use it, the allies only get affected for like half a second before being vulnerable again. If it even applies at all.
@@mobiiustrip2828 Yeah a clearer visual would help a lot with understanding just how long the invulnerability is. Right now I can never tell if I’m out of range or if it really only lasts for a split second
Little random but the funniest thing to see is someone else’s point of view watching necros fly across the screen so fast it’s almost a blur, and all you hear is “hi neighbor 🙋♂️” 😂. Anyways great video I’m a big C&D enthusiast!
Im definitely a cloak and dagger main. I love how cloak has a similar no aim attack like scarlet and it has a oh shit fly away button(counter jeff ult) with the obvious blind wall. Dagger is cool too for long range damage and strong heals. The ult is nuts, ill negate a large area by covering it with a damage/heal floor aoe. The hero is hella good and my favorite for sure the concept is really fun.
11:48 I’ve been having problems w his cloak ability not applying to some teammates that are nearby for some reason? Is it a visual bug or? Like I don’t think that hulk was affected by ur cloak even tho he was right next to you
It's because the ability can be canceled by allies if they shoot. I think they made this way because it applies invisibility, but it turns out that this makes the entire ability useless. Anyway the skill is kind of poorly done.
@@chateau_guillard this explains it then, tbh bc of that i mostly just use it for myself. but i guess maybe i can let ppl know before i use it, if im trying to save them
Their Ultimats do 220 healing per second but only 30 Damage per second for 15 seconds. Not the most OP Strategist Ult but can be useful for agressive push
For all people like me maining Cloak and Dagger, do you also noticing that sometimes Cloak's M2 ( the invulnerability) doesn't work on allies and only on you? I've been having this feeling for some time now, in several situations I'm around my teammates and I manage to escape somebody's ult with it but not my teammates right beside me. Could be a bug or something I've been missing?
Bro C&D combo with hulk & Wolverine is actually really sick I’m about to see if I can come up with some tech with the homies with different characters and their moves🔥🔥
She was the First Hero I played when I started the game Not knowing anything. When I finally figured out where I can See her skills I was a little taken abak by just how freaking things she can do but I kept playing her bc even with me dead a Lot the Forst rounds it was fun and now after a little over 2h on her I can allready manage my CD a Lot better and offen still have SVP with Most Heal ❤ Just Love the Style and how many Options u have
Def is my favorite support in game. Such cool combos you can do swapping between cloak and dagger, and I find the ult best to use to push enemies off of point. Awesome gameplay ml7
Cloak n dagger is really fun to play. Very versatile. I casually get mvp with them on quick match. As for competitive.....well that's a different landscape lol.
I tried them one day, decided I didn't like them. Tried it again a few days later after fighting an aggressive c/d. And proceeded to MVP 3 games in a row xD
does anyone have performance issues with the game, dropping to around 90 fps on certain maps even though i run overwatch typically at 200fps pretty consistently
Cloaks invulnerability should be enough to get you to high ground to escape a dps unless they can fly or wall climb other wise you can throw daggers healing field on yourself and switch to cloak and try to kill them or stall and keep yourself alive until your team comes to help you
I love playing cloak and dagger and now I know I can use cloak for movement and avoid death from jeff😂 when I ult I always jump first cause I get stuck on things often. I swear you turn a lot slower when using their ult
No that dark cloak ability is soooooo good and hinders people and The VULNERABILITY ASPECT AND 0 delay between transforming I’m practicing tech rn to switch between quick while managing both cooldowns for diff situations THEY R SOOO GOOD
it’s one of the more strategic ults to use, it’s extremely strong to push point during overtime if you regroup your team, or even just covering strategic points to make your teammates almost invincible with the amount of healing you’re putting out.
I kind of thing Dagger’s attack is too easy to land with the lock-on. I know it’s not huge damage, but it feels too easy to do huge heals, and get a ton of kills.
@ yeah they’re definitely the most picked healer in my experience. Just reduce the auto target intensity and I think they’d be fine. Nothing major, but you shouldn’t be able to shoot across the map and be guaranteed to land most shots, especially as support.
my main problem with this character is that they are fun but I wish Dagger could get headshots and also no lock on to enemies. I like to aim so they don't feel very rewarding lol. Let Dagger lock onto allies but have to aim at enemies and leave Cloaks auto aim on enemies. I think that is a fair balance. Personal opinion of course. Maybe to keep them easy to pick up leave it as is but allow an option in hero select to turn off the auto aim and get rewarded by allowing headshots if you do. That would feel good and allow everyone to enjoy them as they wish. JUST IDEAS OF COURSE
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One thing I’ve seen is a lot of people forgot that dagger’s shots bounce so if a teammate has hidden behind cover or is in a room then you can try bouncing it off the walls as the auto aim still kicks in and so if aimed with a relatively good angle then you can heal them when they’re out of sight
the shots lock into auto aim mid flight? so even if its not locked previous it can relock after wall bounce with LOS of the shot itself?
@@MrDragonorpI Believe so I can’t completely remember but I think I have witnessed this in a game yesterday
@@MrDragonorp yep, they do! It is so nice
Same with rocket their healing bounces you guys so it’s fun to take advantage of map geometry if u can’t see ppl in a room or so
thanks for pointing this out
They're probably my favourite support in the game right now
Luna snow and Mantis have been fun for me aswell!
@@rfewer agreed. Those are the top 3 imo
100% they feel great
Loki
Same. They're my most played heroes
On Cloak & Dagger I Feed & Stagger
I think Choke & Stagger sounds better lol
LMAOOO maybe give adam a try if you still wanna play strategist?
@@PTSDwithME how they’re easy to use n great
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Getting stuck on small lips in the environment when they are floating in the Ult feels really bad. I've had it happen 2 or 3 times and now I make sure I jump before it every time.
A tip for the ultimate is you can ult from the sky and it will place the DOT area as if you were on the ground. Helps in not getting stuck and makes it more difficult to avoid.
@@overpleb this is incredibly useful information
I was waiting for your breakdown of C&D! They are the best Support design in the game imo
Yes!!! They remind me of Hel from Smite so much! literally so similar, I love that gameplay, kept wishing it was implemented more in games.
First person I played fit my style and is weirdly op and balanced having little mobility and rewards high concentration across like 6 cooldowns while allowing so many play styles
It’s hard to see the value you give to your team with Cloak’s invisibility/invulnerability especially when you compare it to something like Suzu or Lamp which imo has more clear messaging in game
😂everytime i tried to use on my friend to save them from powerful ult im never sure if its work or not its need to highlight the teammate that are in ur range! Im lw main in ow2 so i really like this support
Really my only complaint so far. I hope they add some sort of visual just for you and your team that better shows who is untargetable
Unless the visual is bugged, I feel every time I use it, the allies only get affected for like half a second before being vulnerable again. If it even applies at all.
@@mobiiustrip2828 Yeah a clearer visual would help a lot with understanding just how long the invulnerability is. Right now I can never tell if I’m out of range or if it really only lasts for a split second
@@jordanbuse2327 if yall find some tips share them🤣
Little random but the funniest thing to see is someone else’s point of view watching necros fly across the screen so fast it’s almost a blur, and all you hear is “hi neighbor 🙋♂️” 😂. Anyways great video I’m a big C&D enthusiast!
I don't know why but I find it impossibly difficult to focus when I'm using Dagger 😶
I gyatt what you saying bruh don't worry 😉
Sus 🤨📸
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But..we do know why..
You mean because of her broken deformed anatomy?
Your E on Cloak does vulnerability and makes your auto hit really hard. Dont waste it just for blind
That blind/vulnerability is how I keep hunting down other support or dps as c/d lol, can get top damage if you're aggressive with it
The ultimate is very vulnerable to tiny edges in the map. Now I always jump before doing the ult.
your editor is fucking crazy wasn’t this like 2 hours ago 😭😭😭😭
5:09 Spider-Man folded like a lawn chair😂
My drink just met my phone 😂😂😂😂 I’m crying!!!!
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2:11 bro took a second to appreciate the art.
Which one?
The damage ticks from cloak remind me of mercy damage boost. They are my main now and I’m so happy to see you post abt them already
The only buff I want for Cloak is 3 seconds of invincibility or more movement speed because I can barely escape with th 2 seconds
LOVE Cloak & Dagger! Reminds me of Hel from Smite bc of the stance switching. CD is the most versatile supp in the game imo.
Ikr I was thinking the same thing
Ik!!! I love it
Omg you're right!!!!!!! Is literally hel
@@axelking1183 which I love tbh. Can heal a ton but also has some offensive utility to turn fights
6:35 you know for a fact these devs were having so much fun making this game
This game is what Overwatch should have continued to be.
Never knew cloak can float lol
They are becoming one of my favs!
Im definitely a cloak and dagger main. I love how cloak has a similar no aim attack like scarlet and it has a oh shit fly away button(counter jeff ult) with the obvious blind wall. Dagger is cool too for long range damage and strong heals. The ult is nuts, ill negate a large area by covering it with a damage/heal floor aoe. The hero is hella good and my favorite for sure the concept is really fun.
I got the game yesterday and i immediately meshed well with cloak and dagger. They are really fun
They need to make it so cloak actually makes people invulnerable for at least 0.25 seconds even if they are shooting.
Cloak & Dagger is every bisexual person's paradise
@@WitchersRedVelvet i can see it.
As a hel main in smite, I'm so happy this character feels like an alternate version In a hero shooter. Feels so natural
4:50 the bush giveth and the bush taketh away
11:48
I’ve been having problems w his cloak ability not applying to some teammates that are nearby for some reason? Is it a visual bug or? Like I don’t think that hulk was affected by ur cloak even tho he was right next to you
It's because the ability can be canceled by allies if they shoot. I think they made this way because it applies invisibility, but it turns out that this makes the entire ability useless. Anyway the skill is kind of poorly done.
@ oh good to know. Thought it was a bug. So as long as they don’t shoot they get invincibility and become invisible ?
@@chateau_guillard this explains it then, tbh bc of that i mostly just use it for myself. but i guess maybe i can let ppl know before i use it, if im trying to save them
@@ALovelyDreamm Yep, you can test with the training bots, the one that keeps shooting never gets the effect.
@@h-tv3vr Yeah, but i think they should change the ability so it works for allies properly.
Their Ultimats do 220 healing per second but only 30 Damage per second for 15 seconds. Not the most OP Strategist Ult but can be useful for agressive push
You get more value overlapping them on objective or crowded areas
Only real ones main Cloak and Dagger
@@scottnewsome5828 I’m gonna main Cloak and Dagger since they’ve been my favorite comic duo since I was a kid 😁
@ won’t regret it
Cloak and dagger are so fun to play
For all people like me maining Cloak and Dagger, do you also noticing that sometimes Cloak's M2 ( the invulnerability) doesn't work on allies and only on you? I've been having this feeling for some time now, in several situations I'm around my teammates and I manage to escape somebody's ult with it but not my teammates right beside me. Could be a bug or something I've been missing?
It doesn't work if your allies shoot
Saved the best for last. Tried every specialist before C&D and now im hooked on them. Very fun playstyle.
How are you doing this arial teleport at 0:12?
@@mrfro35 it's L2 with Cloak. It allows you to fly for a short time
@mrfro35 its cloak ability
There are so many support characters I'm enjoying right now. So many great and fun options
Bro C&D combo with hulk & Wolverine is actually really sick I’m about to see if I can come up with some tech with the homies with different characters and their moves🔥🔥
I just starte dplaying today and so far ive only played cloak/dagger and i love them
She was the First Hero I played when I started the game Not knowing anything. When I finally figured out where I can See her skills I was a little taken abak by just how freaking things she can do but I kept playing her bc even with me dead a Lot the Forst rounds it was fun and now after a little over 2h on her I can allready manage my CD a Lot better and offen still have SVP with Most Heal ❤ Just Love the Style and how many Options u have
Should i main them or luna i have decent aim and prefer mid-long range but i am a bit of a push player
Support most fun, love outdpsing dps with mantis
It's Moira but with skill expression and utility
Def is my favorite support in game. Such cool combos you can do swapping between cloak and dagger, and I find the ult best to use to push enemies off of point. Awesome gameplay ml7
So many of my games have been won by using it as a last push up to point for overtime when my team gets pushed off right before we finish capping
@ definitely used it a ton in overtime. It forces them to get off point and allows team to make plays
Cloak and dagger might have to get a nerf their survivability is insane
Cloak n dagger is really fun to play. Very versatile. I casually get mvp with them on quick match. As for competitive.....well that's a different landscape lol.
I tried them one day, decided I didn't like them. Tried it again a few days later after fighting an aggressive c/d. And proceeded to MVP 3 games in a row xD
Guys to anyone who play them, does cloak heal more than dagger in the heal bubble?
does anyone have performance issues with the game, dropping to around 90 fps on certain maps even though i run overwatch typically at 200fps pretty consistently
My friend was having this same issue today and I’m not sure y it’s doing that, maybe the servers r having problems?
Typical UE5 unoptimized bloat. Hope they patch it.
i think one of the forms should have slight speed boost, they have no escape and are very slow
and a slight speed boost in cloak’s invulnerability
Cloaks invulnerability should be enough to get you to high ground to escape a dps unless they can fly or wall climb other wise you can throw daggers healing field on yourself and switch to cloak and try to kill them or stall and keep yourself alive until your team comes to help you
@@TaylanAli-i6y they should add atleast 1 more second to his invulnerability cause it's hard to escape with it against persistent enemies
Definitely my favorite strategist in the game as well as lolki
Yess they are so good, i intatly fell in love with their gamplay cycle
Honestly thought I'd like them more. On the other hand, now I just want to play Mantis, who I barely touched in the beta
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I love playing cloak and dagger and now I know I can use cloak for movement and avoid death from jeff😂 when I ult I always jump first cause I get stuck on things often. I swear you turn a lot slower when using their ult
ML7 you goin get our character nerfed 💀
Faxxx
Wait: how do we float when Cloak uses his right click?!
Hold space
Accidentally became my main after a friend told me they play like Hel in smite, now i can’t play anyone else
Wish they made their Team Up Ability with MoonKnights have mobile invisibility instead of the static aoe field thing
Other than the constant bugs and short af abilities, fun heroes
constant bugs? cloak's "cloak" ability doesnt work if your allies shoot, its not a bug
I’ll give this a try
Marvel 🤰: “We got Moira at home.”
What was the trick to go up at the begining of the match ?
You might have figured it out by now but you can fly while the ability is active
For the next vid can we get a tldr for the champ to understand what exactly is happening?
one of the Easiest to learn too
Im not great at OV only diamond in heals since season 1 but damnn C&D is insane I feel like its just perfect for my playstyle
And she is so….
can I get you crosshair settings please ?
I see so many people hating on cloak but he’s good too!I mostly use dagger tho
No that dark cloak ability is soooooo good and hinders people and The VULNERABILITY ASPECT AND 0 delay between transforming I’m practicing tech rn to switch between quick while managing both cooldowns for diff situations THEY R SOOO GOOD
i main them and moonknight.
LMAO 5:00
They're fun to play, but compared to other supports I feel their ultimate is weak.
I agree, but it's probably balanced they have everything else except for a big attack.
it’s one of the more strategic ults to use, it’s extremely strong to push point during overtime if you regroup your team, or even just covering strategic points to make your teammates almost invincible with the amount of healing you’re putting out.
My aim is atrocious...with c&d im at 90%+ every game.
My friends were like, woah your accuracy is insane!
Had to tell em that everything locks onto both enemies and allies lmao
My fav character
what? cloak and dagger skin before venture? smh 😮💨
There's no point doing damage with Dagger, they only do 15 damage. That's what Cloak is for
Range is further
Cloak can only shoot mid-range tho, also Dagger’s projectiles have great auto-aim
@@solgalex728 True, I only use Dagger's damage on enemies if they have very low HP
I wish my game wouldng lagg and crash
Moira should be what cloak and dagger are. She would be a much more interesting and dynamic character and more fun to play.
Best hero in the game
An Actual They/them character
Hi neighbor! 😃
Broo shhhh about the escape before the nerf it to the ground. It’s not that broken
Hi neighbor! 😁👋
cool hero :)
Why is there very feint music in the background? It's very annoying, and it sometimes make a dishes clanking sound.
Nice vid dad
so moira?
once the season bonus is gone she wont be as good
Join the oddities please help
I kind of thing Dagger’s attack is too easy to land with the lock-on. I know it’s not huge damage, but it feels too easy to do huge heals, and get a ton of kills.
@@caleb_dume do you find she shows up in most games?
@ yeah they’re definitely the most picked healer in my experience. Just reduce the auto target intensity and I think they’d be fine. Nothing major, but you shouldn’t be able to shoot across the map and be guaranteed to land most shots, especially as support.
@@caleb_dume that's not the same thing as showing up in most games. Do you see C&D in every match?
Hi neighbor :)
my main problem with this character is that they are fun but I wish Dagger could get headshots and also no lock on to enemies. I like to aim so they don't feel very rewarding lol. Let Dagger lock onto allies but have to aim at enemies and leave Cloaks auto aim on enemies. I think that is a fair balance. Personal opinion of course. Maybe to keep them easy to pick up leave it as is but allow an option in hero select to turn off the auto aim and get rewarded by allowing headshots if you do. That would feel good and allow everyone to enjoy them as they wish. JUST IDEAS OF COURSE
Hi neighbor
C&D gets very boring after a while😢
Early early
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Yeah I’m the best with her you UA-camrs can not get 25 kills with her. And 12000 plus healing. Get ya game up 😂
Having a basically unusable ult makes her eh
Bro I win so many games using her ult to push or control point, learn the character lol
Cloak and Butt.