A Bisexual History of Dracula

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  • Опубліковано 10 чер 2021
  • See also: The Lesbian Vampire (and her Bisexual Lovers):
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    Was Dracula bisexual? Are all vampires bi? What does any of this have to do with Oscar Wilde? Contains spoilers for Dracula (1897), Dracula (1931), Dracula (1958), Dracula (1994), and also Dracula (2020).
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  • @verilybitchie
    @verilybitchie  2 роки тому +272

    If you enjoyed this video, please check out its companion video "The Lesbian Vampire and Her Bisexual Lovers" to get the other half of this story! ua-cam.com/video/7hP8H1kbT1Q/v-deo.html

    • @FoodNerds
      @FoodNerds 2 роки тому +1

      As a bisexual woman this would not be canon so I would like that, because I’m not so insecure that need everything to revolve around me and reflect my sexuality. That said if a bisexual or gay vampire comes out I’m not opposed to it. I just like my fiction to remain canon one reason that Twilight sux, and I’m not fond of the changed to the Abramsverse of Star Trek though many of the new movies are good except for the digital lenses flairs.

    • @deepwaters7242
      @deepwaters7242 2 роки тому +2

      This was so delightful in all the ways. Love from an American bisexual woman married to a European bisexual man.

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 Рік тому

      Vampires don't belive in sexuality

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 Рік тому

      U discuss dracula but u include interview with a vampire why same thing very different approach yes lestat was bi but it wasn't the focus louie was

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 Рік тому

      @Troy Michael been misinformed

  • @MiriamClairify
    @MiriamClairify 3 роки тому +2038

    Roommate: what are you watching
    Me: bisexual propaganda

    • @lucie8827
      @lucie8827 2 роки тому +58

      I would like a roomate but i live in a closet in my parents house.

    • @royalcrow5657
      @royalcrow5657 2 роки тому +56

      Omg they where roommates

    • @classichorrorenthusiast
      @classichorrorenthusiast 2 роки тому +1

      @@lucie8827 same-

    • @lucie8827
      @lucie8827 2 роки тому +7

      @@classichorrorenthusiast i call my cat my roomate now xD

    • @classichorrorenthusiast
      @classichorrorenthusiast 2 роки тому +2

      @@lucie8827 what's your cat's name, if you don't mind my asking?

  • @thefollowingisatest4579
    @thefollowingisatest4579 3 роки тому +1925

    Apparently moffet heard the queer baiting accusations from Sherlock and was like"I'll show you queer baiting you little shits!"

    • @wandanemer2630
      @wandanemer2630 3 роки тому +136

      He would so do that.

    • @ultimatebishoujo29
      @ultimatebishoujo29 3 роки тому +30

      @@wandanemer2630 so true

    • @zombioric5890
      @zombioric5890 3 роки тому +68

      HE WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT OMFG HES SUCH A LIL SHIT AHAH

    • @cheskaarana6097
      @cheskaarana6097 Рік тому +19

      @@Alina_Schmidt I think he's very sensitive to skewing to the popular opinion so he'd go the lengths just to say contrarian shit just for the sake of it.

    • @jungtothehuimang
      @jungtothehuimang Рік тому +3

      I was going to say something similar 😭 I hate that it's true

  • @booksvsmovies
    @booksvsmovies 3 роки тому +1934

    "bi-homicidal" is the most Steven Moffet statement on sexuality I've ever heard. Why do I keep letting this man disappoint me?

    • @fruitygarlic3601
      @fruitygarlic3601 3 роки тому +260

      It's the chaotic evil equivalent to, "I thought you only killed boys. / I go both ways," from Jennifer's Body.

    • @darkserpentcat3309
      @darkserpentcat3309 3 роки тому +123

      “Bi-homicidal” then why did he want to keep Jonathan as his bride?
      Yes I know the cannon explanation would be because Jonathan was the first to have free will or something, not sure what it was but I think that was why, but then why use the word Bride?

    • @lucie8827
      @lucie8827 2 роки тому +7

      @@fruitygarlic3601 XD yasss

    • @giuseppemassari9970
      @giuseppemassari9970 2 роки тому +28

      I thought it was a bad-landed joke?

    • @daved2352
      @daved2352 2 роки тому +57

      @@giuseppemassari9970 so a normal Moffat joke then?

  • @randy5301
    @randy5301 3 роки тому +2121

    as a bisexual who loves vampires i clicked this so fast when i saw it omg

    • @WillowTDog
      @WillowTDog 3 роки тому +17

      Same.

    • @Nickynamo
      @Nickynamo 3 роки тому +27

      Saaaame. I love when they go bitey bite.

    • @EvangelinaGrey
      @EvangelinaGrey 3 роки тому +4

      Same

    •  3 роки тому +2

      same😂😂

    • @Zivilin
      @Zivilin 3 роки тому +2

      Same

  • @Faith-wz7hu
    @Faith-wz7hu 3 роки тому +872

    vampires have such a bad relationship with the church too, getting repelled by crosses, burned by holy water, hunted by the church, etc. so insisting the only valid readings of them are straight ones is just silly. being immortal, powerful, and self-ruling in a time where you'd already be hated even before becoming a vampire makes the idea of vampirism kinda appealing imbo (in my bi opinion).

    • @alsplaylist
      @alsplaylist 2 роки тому +37

      gonna start using imbo in everything from now on thanks

    • @filipematias5127
      @filipematias5127 2 роки тому +7

      The original novel by Bram Stoker doesn't have any inference whatsoever about Count Dracula being gay or bisexual : end of discussion ! - GO READ THE BOOK

    • @Faith-wz7hu
      @Faith-wz7hu 2 роки тому +44

      @@filipematias5127 did u even watch the video or are you just homophobic?

    • @filipematias5127
      @filipematias5127 2 роки тому +1

      @@Faith-wz7hu Did you read and understand my comment or are you a snowflake political correctness freak...??? Go read the book : in the original novel Count Dracula isn't straight, gay or bisexual - he is an undead being, a vampire predator who feeds on human blood ! This discussion is silly regarding the original Count Dracula character by Bram Stoker !!!

    • @kkaassist
      @kkaassist 2 роки тому +39

      @@filipematias5127 literally just watch the video

  • @squashfei8907
    @squashfei8907 2 роки тому +325

    First we had Oscar Wilde describing Dorian Gray as having "chiseled nostrils" and now Bram Stoker with the "sensitive nostrils?" Weird nostril descriptions must be a staple of Victorian bisexual horror authors.

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 7 місяців тому +3

      Wilde was full gay so was byron stoker STRAIGHT

    • @ratuse
      @ratuse 7 місяців тому +15

      Dorian Gray was practically a love letter to a sociopath. But Lord have mercy that writer could describe a beautiful man.

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 7 місяців тому +1

      @@ratuse hint Oscar wilde was gay

    • @ratuse
      @ratuse 7 місяців тому +2

      @@davidkay1948 yes, I think that's pretty much common knowledge.

    • @colbyboucher6391
      @colbyboucher6391 7 місяців тому

      ​@@davidkay1948And a statutory rapist, but people don't like talking about that bit.

  • @WhichDoctor1
    @WhichDoctor1 3 роки тому +1286

    I would say that a billionaire who uses his money and influence to openly prey on young people and get away with it would be a much more accurate updating of the original themes of Dracula. And very much reflective of modern anxieties. Would love to see that done in a big-budget Dracula movie.

    • @carlalussini
      @carlalussini 3 роки тому +184

      Yeah, the problem with Dracula is not that he's a sexy bi, but that he's a rich aristocratic man.

    • @Sytheduke
      @Sytheduke 3 роки тому +182

      He could be openly bi in this version but the focus would be that all his victims are young university students, with most of them being 18 or 19. Maybe he tries to convince them to come to him by offering internships and experience in traveling to a foreign country.

    • @carlalussini
      @carlalussini 3 роки тому +87

      @@Sytheduke OH MY GOD WE MADE JAMES CHARLES THE ENCARNATION OF BYRONIC FEAR OF OUR TIMES!!!

    • @Sytheduke
      @Sytheduke 3 роки тому +118

      I think having a vampire be a rich person abusing their power is a fear that can hold up without becoming dated.

    • @wandanemer2630
      @wandanemer2630 3 роки тому +7

      Oh my god yess

  • @HotDogTimeMachine385
    @HotDogTimeMachine385 3 роки тому +740

    I find it fascinating that vampires are both a metaphor for bisexuality (good) as well as high class european colonialism and capitalism (evil)

    • @transitoryloving4261
      @transitoryloving4261 2 роки тому +98

      But early vampire stories don't really represent the vampire as bisexual, as much as they represent it as sexually decadent and deviant, traits often assigned to the aristocracy in the past and to the capitalist class today. On top of that, Dracula and other vampires from those times don't represent capitalism; they were mostly aristocrats, a dying social class that disappeard thanks to capitalism, industrialization and the enlightenment.

    • @marcusharton5463
      @marcusharton5463 2 роки тому +60

      I think an interesting aspect though is the fact that Dracula is seeking to purchas land in England. There's definitely the "spooky immigrant" aspect, especially as England has no lack of its own aristocrats, but I also felt almost a sense that he could at least be easily formed to represent the aristocrat refashioning himself into the capitalist in the new era.

    • @nedakiddo
      @nedakiddo Рік тому +8

      @@transitoryloving4261 well said, that is also because the bisexual or homosexual identity didn’t exist at the time, the categories were invented later on.

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 Рік тому

      @@transitoryloving4261 100%

    • @HotDogTimeMachine385
      @HotDogTimeMachine385 Рік тому +8

      @@inferiorinferno8859 I have to say I laughed when you said "Dracula for one, was clearly a straight dude that was experimenting around with men" "he's not bisexual guys, he's straight man who experiments with men" That gave a me a good laugh, I have to give you props for that.
      Listen kid, just because you don't like it doesn't negate all the instances in both literature and cinema of something existing.
      The argument: "the original dracula wasn't bisexual and wasn't a metaphor for colonialism, therefore all the adaptations of bisexual vampires/colonialist vampires is wrong" is by far one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. If you're offended by reality I guess that makes you a snowflake or something, is that the word that's used? But then, you're a person that uses "woke" unironically which makes you sound unintelligent. If I had a pound for every person that cried "Oh no, woke sjw feminists politics are ruining movies" I'd buy a car. It makes you sound whiny.

  • @julianac1551
    @julianac1551 3 роки тому +568

    "We don't want Dracula coming on a working visa", but actually he came with a golden ticket from buying property and bringing in his fortune... He is one of the good immigrants! The ones with money!

    • @wandanemer2630
      @wandanemer2630 3 роки тому +5

      True!

    • @suzannax
      @suzannax 2 роки тому +6

      Nailed it

    • @ArgentumFox
      @ArgentumFox 2 роки тому +38

      He even ate all the other immigrants on the boat!

    • @daved2352
      @daved2352 2 роки тому +4

      Bloody Draculas comin' over 'ere suckin' all our necks.

  • @jaygent2836
    @jaygent2836 3 роки тому +685

    The connections with Bram Stoker and Lord Byron, Oscar WIlde and Walt Whitman are making my mind reel! Queertastic

    • @svscrib8922
      @svscrib8922 3 роки тому +100

      and also lets not forget that lord byron's daughter, ada lovelace, went on to become the worlds first computer programmer and a famous mathematician

    • @seanraines5871
      @seanraines5871 2 роки тому +8

      @@svscrib8922 I will have to look into that. Intriguing

    • @svscrib8922
      @svscrib8922 2 роки тому +6

      @@seanraines5871 extremely, i was freaking out when i made the connection

    • @kayzmavc4596
      @kayzmavc4596 2 роки тому +47

      @@svscrib8922 ADA LOVELACE WAS LORD BYRON'S DAUGHTER?!?!?!? That's amazing! This feels as earth shattering as when I found out Mary Shelley was the daughter of Mary Wollostonecraft.

    • @svscrib8922
      @svscrib8922 2 роки тому +24

      @@kayzmavc4596 WHAT ?? this just keeps getting better and better, thank you for sharing this, i had no idea!

  • @Ladyfantastico
    @Ladyfantastico 3 роки тому +316

    I love that you can talk about lord Byron like it's still hot gossip. This has made my day.

  • @ziggy6191
    @ziggy6191 3 роки тому +217

    answer: yes, yes he is.

  • @diefenbaker7853
    @diefenbaker7853 2 роки тому +153

    Vampires live hundreds, thousands, even tens of thousands of years, with that wouldn't you want to discover every person you thought was handsome/beautiful?
    The actor James Dean said it best when he was asked if he was homosexual. He answered, "No, I am not homosexual, But, I'm also not going to go through life with one hand tied behind my back". This is the best answer I have heard.

    • @squashfei8907
      @squashfei8907 2 роки тому +16

      lmao that's amazing

    • @cheskaarana6097
      @cheskaarana6097 Рік тому +8

      Ngl, my deadass brain read the name as James Deen and got a different imagery for a second.

  • @tinymxnticore
    @tinymxnticore 3 роки тому +672

    I do love a man with sensitive nostrils.🥰

  • @Foxberryjammed
    @Foxberryjammed 2 роки тому +64

    I've kept telling people all vampires are bisexual at heart, because they lust for blood and blood has no gender. Now, I can also hit them with these speculations about Stoker being closeted. Didn't know that, so thank you!

  • @AGothNamedWednessday
    @AGothNamedWednessday 3 роки тому +260

    I'm wondering is "he's not bisexual, he's bihomicidal" is a ill placed joke, like a bad pun joke because he is bisexual and it's obvious? But then I remembered who moffat is and the Sherlock nonsense with Sherlock and Watson

    • @star-bi8cb
      @star-bi8cb 2 роки тому +6

      yes that’s what I was thinking lol

  • @veronicazieman1260
    @veronicazieman1260 2 роки тому +97

    This video is making me see the book version of "I Am Legend" way differently. In the book, the main character is the last human in a world overrun by a vampire plague and he spends his days killing as many vampires as possible, only to learn at the end of the book that the vampires have formed their own advanced society and progressed beyond the need to drink blood through scientific advances because they're still just as intelligent as they were as people. He is put on trial and executed for essentially being a serial killer. This could definitely be seen as a metaphor for people clinging onto an old, traditional (read: heteronormative) way of life as the world moves on without them. What used to be acceptable and even encouraged (fighting vampires or criminalizing homosexuality, you get the picture) is now recognized as an atrocity.

  • @Pencliff
    @Pencliff 3 роки тому +166

    I love how vampires have evolved in fiction and just how acceptedly and expectedly sexy and queer they are now. I've learned so much from this video and was grinning the whole way, I think talking about vampires and queerness is my new favourite thing.

  • @lillydee5978
    @lillydee5978 2 роки тому +520

    When I read Dracula in High School, the bisexual elements were obvious to me. I cannot believe people deny it.

    • @NigerianKitchen
      @NigerianKitchen 2 роки тому +64

      I was just thinking the same. I don't think I went around thinking Dracula was bisexual but from most literature and film he clearly was (especially the Byronic types). He basically seduces people in order to drink their blood, men or women. The charged, hypnotic air. Necks being barred and bitten. The person being bitten feeling some kinda pleasure with the pain. In film in general, if men commit violence on other men that kinda closeness and sensuality seems pretty uncommon unless one of the guys is (or is implied) gay or bisexual. That level of intimacy with violence is either gonna be unnerving or titillating to most people watching.

    • @rageagainstthemicrowave1313
      @rageagainstthemicrowave1313 2 роки тому +2

      Reading it again and YEAH

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 2 роки тому +24

      @@NigerianKitchen The coding written in the book made it very astonishing to me, how few people caught on there. Dracula is increadably posessiv of him, despite not planing on feeding from him, he speaks of love quite passionatly in direct context to Jonathan, he went through a lot of effort in keeping Jonathans stay as pleasent and least threatening as possible, intent on spending time with him, despite not really having a good reason for it, always insisting on them being friends until death, laying his hand on his the first night of Jonathans stay, but retracting it at Jonathans noticable discomfort . . . also, him going after Mina had nothing to do with her, but was all about Jonathan . . .
      As with what you discibed, the queercoding of vampires as predators makes sense. Sexuell interesst and advances of someone you are not into, or are into against your will are uncomfortable to threatening, no matter your sexuality, but for being straight is more commen, same sex attraction is the one more likely to make one uncomfortable, especialy in a society where it is demonised and outlawed

    • @luniers4629
      @luniers4629 2 роки тому +12

      To me he just seemed like a really capable loving housewife. He's good at cooking, cleaning and entertaining his guests.

    • @davidkay1948
      @davidkay1948 Рік тому +1

      Back then there was no such thing lol

  • @professormoriarty1428
    @professormoriarty1428 3 роки тому +257

    25:27 Isn't it implied in Mina's letter thqt she is Bi when she warns Jonathan that if he cheats on her, she'll do the same with some dudes and a girl that Jonathan also likes?

    • @KarlKristofferJohnsson
      @KarlKristofferJohnsson 3 роки тому +11

      I don't remember that... It seems like it was way too long since I read the book.

    • @wandanemer2630
      @wandanemer2630 3 роки тому +62

      That's true, in the show.
      And in the book, her and Lucy have a very... romantic friendship, also.

    • @professormoriarty1428
      @professormoriarty1428 3 роки тому +8

      @@KarlKristofferJohnsson I meant on the show's first episode

    • @KarlKristofferJohnsson
      @KarlKristofferJohnsson 3 роки тому +14

      @@professormoriarty1428 Ah, that makes sense. I would probably remember bisexual implications from the book.

    • @abishaipaul2298
      @abishaipaul2298 2 роки тому +3

      @@wandanemer2630 in the 1992 version as well

  • @KingLucy
    @KingLucy 3 роки тому +220

    As a bisexual obsessed with vampires, bless you for this video

  • @yoshimitsu4
    @yoshimitsu4 3 роки тому +612

    Hell yeah, more bisexual vampirism!!!

  • @gwendlevs.everything9178
    @gwendlevs.everything9178 3 роки тому +191

    Does the silence about Wilde speak volumes ironically . . . or Byronically?
    I’m sorry. (But not really, I’m actually immensely pleased with myself)

  • @sissymarie2912
    @sissymarie2912 3 роки тому +296

    I read an analysis insisting Dracula wasn't queer. The argument was that people were misinterpreting Victorian language and social norms and Dracula's physical description being so monstrous. I'm pretty sure the author didn't take into account those same social norms with regard to being gay. There was definitely no mention of the letters between Stoker and Whitman.

    • @WillowTDog
      @WillowTDog 3 роки тому +45

      I've seen similar any time lesbian or bi women from that time period are re-analyzed now. Just reminds me that even Anne Lister's stupid male relatives didn't want her coded journals getting "out."

    • @Marveryn
      @Marveryn 2 роки тому +16

      honestly i always figure he wasn't bi or straight. He was no longer human and we were his food, when i eat pork i don't care if i what sex the pig i am eating is. Now going form the original black and white movie (since i didn't read the book) i am with he always seem to be bi as he didn't care where the blood came from.

    • @filipematias5127
      @filipematias5127 2 роки тому +4

      The original novel by Bram Stoker doesn't have any inference whatsoever about Count Dracula being gay or bisexual : he is an undead vampire predator who drinks HUMAN blood - END OF DISCUSSION ! (Edit : 🌘🕷️🕸️)

    • @sissymarie2912
      @sissymarie2912 2 роки тому +25

      Not even a quarter of the way into rereading and drinking blood is directly compared to love. But alright.

    • @safetyscissors9281
      @safetyscissors9281 2 роки тому

      Interesting!

  • @silveirona
    @silveirona 3 роки тому +318

    This reminds me to start writing my "the Blade movies are actually queer and here's why" essay

    • @WillowTDog
      @WillowTDog 3 роки тому +16

      Make it a video essay! Maybe you can get featured or linked!

  • @JrTheDragon01
    @JrTheDragon01 3 роки тому +320

    When you said "Byronic hero" at ~13:50 my brain genuinely though for a sec that it was some portmanteau of bi and ironic that I hadn't heard before
    Took me a couple of seconds to realise my mistake 😂

  • @spencertrusque7966
    @spencertrusque7966 3 роки тому +94

    Assuming the individual didn't start out bisexual, a vampire will discover some measure of genuine bisexual desire (even just a 1 or 2 on the kinsey scale), or learn to be a bit flexible, just as a function of time. You live long enough, you'll get lonely and/or just plain curious.

    • @willmfrank
      @willmfrank 2 роки тому +4

      Miriam Blaylock in "The Hunger" comes to mind.

    • @dwuddle
      @dwuddle 2 роки тому +27

      Honestly, thats what I was thinking. Like you’re alive for so long as a vampire that you’d eventually get bored or curious. Then again, I’m like super fluid in who I find attractive and I know some ppl say they’re super straight (lmao) but I feel after thousands of years, it wouldn’t be surprising if vampires would be open to the other sex lol

  • @sffb8295
    @sffb8295 3 роки тому +208

    Moffat trying to deny Dracula's bisexuality in his new BBC show lmao
    Fine, dude. We still have Lestat.

    • @talonshadows4587
      @talonshadows4587 2 роки тому +23

      Agreed , Lestat and Louis were/are vampire versions of myself and my boyfriend of 10yrs. Interestingly enough we both identify as bisexual despite being in a serious long term gay relationship

    • @runway5338
      @runway5338 2 роки тому +4

      @@talonshadows4587 well, when you find the one then you’ve found the one. Their gender might be the last thing on your mind when you’re secure about your own sexuality

    • @rageagainstthemicrowave1313
      @rageagainstthemicrowave1313 2 роки тому +6

      @@talonshadows4587 I mean I would say many bi people if not most bi people continue to identify as bi even if they found the 'one' bc it's just being truthful lol. if you're bi you're bi. also if you have a history of dating men and women and being attracted to them, then there's no issue still identifying as such. a person does not change someone's sexuality etc. etc.....

  • @mastematt
    @mastematt 3 роки тому +247

    You say there has never been a more bisexual portyal of dracula eh? Well allow me to introduce you to Alucard from Hellsing Ultimate, especially the abridged series. "No one alive can comprehend his sexual preference". Enjoy

    • @wandanemer2630
      @wandanemer2630 3 роки тому +10

      Bless.

    • @mr.p215
      @mr.p215 3 роки тому +39

      Him and Anderson could sink the titanic if it crashed into them, that's how sharp their romantic tensions were, especially in the Abridged.

    • @lucie8827
      @lucie8827 2 роки тому +11

      @@mr.p215 I havent seen it but just reading that sentence was pleasing.

    • @seal5077
      @seal5077 2 роки тому +1

      Well since it was made by Japanese people, their culture thinks you should keep that to yourself and doesn't like it very much, and plus they probably weren't even thinking of a random vampire characters sexuality in castlevania lol

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 2 роки тому +3

      . . . oh dear, unsure if I would call the disaster that is alucard abridged bi, given he himself claims no one could even comprehend his sexuality . . . but yeah, he showed interest in both sexes so it at least partialy counts ^^

  • @DJfan8181
    @DJfan8181 3 роки тому +202

    as a bisexual... i have to tell that when i was in school we made a play adaptation of Dracula, and the very closeted bi trangirl that i was y portrayed Van Helsing. Watching this now is just so true and funny.

  • @skyllalafey
    @skyllalafey 3 роки тому +105

    Wonderful video, and your disclaimer below it, "Contains spoilers for Dracula (1897), Dracula (1931), Dracula (1958), Dracula (1994), and also Dracula (2020)." made me chuckle quite a bit.

    • @TheKarret
      @TheKarret 2 роки тому +4

      LMAO omg that's amazing. XD

  • @Felixiroflife28
    @Felixiroflife28 3 роки тому +38

    Twilight is also Byronic because it’s meant to be loosely based on Wuthering Heights (which it also Bella’s favourite book and potentially why the “I like to watch you sleep” window thing exists)

    • @silveirona
      @silveirona 3 роки тому +4

      The gospel version of a byronic hero

  • @constantreader1422
    @constantreader1422 3 роки тому +40

    i'm so glad tom cruise didn't win. interview with a vampire was such an awakening for me. i reread the books far too often.

  • @ChuckMeIntoHell
    @ChuckMeIntoHell 3 роки тому +43

    When she was saying "Byronic" I heard it as "bi-ronic", ironically bi.

  • @MilkScrew
    @MilkScrew 3 роки тому +62

    I was thinking, as Bram didn't want to give up his straight lifestyle perhaps he also didn't want to hurt the woman he married and bring shame upon her and his family as well. Like he wanted to bare the shame all by himself; less of a sin than hurting those you care for.

    • @yunamchill9169
      @yunamchill9169 2 роки тому +11

      It reminds me of the tragic life of John Laurens. He was also forced to be married to a girl and raise their daughter together to not bring shame to her family as he impregnated her out of wedlock. But he was so often away at war that I don't think he cared too much about them.

  • @sammysoppy3361
    @sammysoppy3361 3 роки тому +41

    did you just say “right in the thrussy?!!” THRUSSY. you made me choke on my lunch.... I am dying. you have a new fan lmaooo

  • @andreavillegas2196
    @andreavillegas2196 3 роки тому +75

    It’s ironic. I recently started reading Dracula 🧛🏼‍♂️ I thought to wait and finishing reading another time because pride month was coming up, and I wanted to read about LGBTQ+ characters. But I continued with the story, the audiobook narrated by Alan Cumming in particular, and I started thinking how lustful Dracula sounded towards Jonathan. And then I come across your video and I can’t unsee it/ unhear it 😅 Love your content, thank you for sharing with us! 💜

  • @mrm20x6
    @mrm20x6 3 роки тому +49

    What you said about a Dracula that's monstrous to modern audiences sounds similar to how Abigail Thorn described the version of Dracula that she was going to be in before it got cancelled.

    • @azuregriffin1116
      @azuregriffin1116 2 роки тому +1

      What could anyone cancel Abigail about? Lol

    • @mccaylawhite8900
      @mccaylawhite8900 2 роки тому +6

      @@azuregriffin1116 no the play was canceled just before lockdown

  • @justynafron7016
    @justynafron7016 2 роки тому +19

    Small thing that i loved in 2020 dracula was how he explained his fear of crosses. He said that he does not fear the cross because it is a symbol of god. He fears the cross because his victims were often oppressed and made to feel anxious by the church. As he drank their blood, he absorbed their fear and anxiety, related to the church and the cross. I can 100% relate to this, as this really was religion that made me believe i was sinful and worth punishment, not my sexuality itself. And even for straight people, religion inficts a ton of fear regarding their sexuality, as it only allows sex after marriage, and only the most basic form of sex.
    ang is not my first language so sorry for mistakes

  • @hannahnimmo698
    @hannahnimmo698 3 роки тому +30

    I feel no vampire can be straight when you hit triple digits your gonna be bi or pan at the least and being a straight vampire is like a being a unicorn.

    • @moondivine2288
      @moondivine2288 2 роки тому +2

      If vampires were former humans doesn’t that play into it. If someone was straight as a human I can’t imagine that changing once they become vampires. Likewise if someone was already gay or bisexual before becoming human. I’m aroace and no way in hell is that changing. Even if I become a vampire.
      At the end of the day vampires are former humans. And no one sexuality would be considered making them a unicorn

    • @ollieno971
      @ollieno971 2 роки тому +10

      @@moondivine2288 I feel like If someone is straight and is turned into a vampire it just doesn’t work. They turn to dust or something lol

    • @moondivine2288
      @moondivine2288 2 роки тому +2

      @@ollieno971 sexuality shouldn’t be a factor. And honestly i don’t get the argument behind it. I love cake yet I’m not marrying it. Dracula threw a baby at the brides…that right there would have some dark implications.
      I’m not defending anyone. As a asexual it would be nice to imagine vampire me still ace. People, no matter their sexuality should be able to dream of themselves as vampires. 🤷‍♀️

  • @MommyOfZoeAndLiam
    @MommyOfZoeAndLiam Рік тому +11

    My goal is to now find a way to include "Thrussy" and "Sensitive Nostrils" in regular speech.
    Also this shade of lipstick is stunning on you.

  • @WillowTDog
    @WillowTDog 3 роки тому +19

    "Sensitive nostrils" may be my new favorite descriptor.

  • @unamejames
    @unamejames 2 роки тому +14

    For a modern anti-villain treatment maybe we could model Dracula after Bram Stoker: a closeted bi person with deeply seated internalized homophobia who doesn't care that he's hurting other people in similar shoes.

  • @Hauptseite
    @Hauptseite 2 роки тому +9

    "Is it gay to drink each other's blood?"
    Only if the necks touch.

  • @princejiyu8241
    @princejiyu8241 3 роки тому +17

    "A version of Dracula in which his sexuality is not considered monstrous." Have you considered the hit anime: Hellsing Ultimate?

  • @abibas3050
    @abibas3050 3 роки тому +97

    8 months into a-level analysis of him, I fucking hope so or those essays are fucked-

  • @MobyFitzwilliam
    @MobyFitzwilliam 2 роки тому +38

    Moffat is just the modern form of Bram Stoker's anti-gayness lol

  • @stinkynorsk5883
    @stinkynorsk5883 3 роки тому +97

    Today I was watching Nosferatu with my boyfriend, and from the few lines of dialogue that he had we decided that he's a raging bisexual who had a one night stand with Butter the panic bi.

  • @severinesalvador
    @severinesalvador 3 роки тому +112

    Verity shh you're revealing our secrets, now they will see us bisexual vampires coming 😫

  • @mysterylovescompany2657
    @mysterylovescompany2657 3 роки тому +25

    Re: the book - the voivode was into Harker from basically the moment that stiff-necked oversocialised little wet British noodle arrived on his doorstep; this theory simplifies explanation of _so much_ of what went on between them in good old' Castle Drac pre- the good Count's emigration, & no-one alive, dead, or undecided will ever be able to convince me otherwise.

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 2 роки тому +1

      agree, there is no way the count did not have a thing for jonathan, the hints are everywhere

  • @himesilva
    @himesilva 2 роки тому +14

    I was an emo (‘00s Bisexual Chic) who was obsessed with vampires as a teen and still now. I ended up being bisexual. Guess I was a little more obvious than I thought 😅

  • @rowanfrost2079
    @rowanfrost2079 3 роки тому +15

    Can’t believe Queen didn’t mention Dio Brando

  • @AmalaFrequents
    @AmalaFrequents 2 роки тому +6

    This video suddenly got me thinking about the NBC Hannibal series and the legacy of the literary vampire in that. Hannibal is posed as from Lithuania, charismatic, rich, stylish- and of course he eats people. Then you have Will as the mixture of seduced friend/victim and supposed hero who will defeat Hannibal. Except in the series they completely mess with the traditional dynamic, giving our 'hero' a negative character arc and more explicitly exploring the notion of romance in between our 'hero' and monster character. You've got me wanting to write essays on this now. This was a cool video, thanks.

  • @MiyukiShiroitori
    @MiyukiShiroitori 3 роки тому +45

    the thrussy reference almost killed me. u are lucky i wasnt drinking or eating at the time or else my blood would be on your hands!!

  • @thewitchcoven
    @thewitchcoven 3 роки тому +49

    I always imagined Van Hellsing as being some for of POC, just because the one passage that called his skin
    tan" and "bronze". Although, I also pictured Dracula as looking like Colonel Sanders, so what the fuck do I know.

    • @moondivine2288
      @moondivine2288 2 роки тому +11

      Bring tan and bronze doesn’t necessarily mean Van Hellsing is POC. I have seen white people that fit that description. Nina Dobrev fits that description for me. Tv trope wise it’s also the dark type and handsome

  • @a-supernova-girl
    @a-supernova-girl 2 роки тому +20

    So...Polidori basically made modern bisexual vampires a thing by way of friend-fiction 😭

  • @weirdghastlygames1323
    @weirdghastlygames1323 3 роки тому +56

    the irony, is that the only time I found a gay version of Jonathan harker was in a gay porn version. And as fun as that one is ( you gotta give it to them they made a decent effort on the horror gothic setting) I would like if that sort of exploration would not be just relegated to porn parodies you know?

    • @ProgressiveBoink
      @ProgressiveBoink 2 роки тому +2

      Here I am being messy in the youtube comments, asking what this gay dracula porn was called.

    • @depressedbatmann
      @depressedbatmann 2 роки тому +1

      @@ProgressiveBoink

    • @marischein2139
      @marischein2139 2 роки тому +4

      My dog is asking for the link you know....

    • @cayreet5992
      @cayreet5992 2 роки тому +3

      The 'first Icelandic translation' of Dracula is also very much clear about Dracula's plans for Jonathan - but then, this book has one chapter in common with the English version, everything else is more or less the translator's own story. It's published under the title 'Powers of Darkness' now.

  • @MarvelousNysa
    @MarvelousNysa 3 роки тому +17

    I had no idea all these great stories and writers were so related (both socially and literally relatives)

  • @weirdkitty07
    @weirdkitty07 2 роки тому +18

    Interview with the Vampirte was ironically Tom Cruise's gayest film at the time. Really the dude needs to come out.

  • @bluemusic039
    @bluemusic039 3 роки тому +24

    I always loved vampires for their open minded love-is-love-attitudes. Later I found out I'm just bisexual as well. :')

  • @justanotherweirdo11
    @justanotherweirdo11 3 роки тому +24

    Me over here with my bi vampire boy.

  • @kimwelch4652
    @kimwelch4652 3 роки тому +14

    "The blood is the life! The blood is the life!" --Renfield

  • @TonySalazar933
    @TonySalazar933 2 роки тому +9

    I always assumed it was common knowledge that bisexuals were descended from vampires.

  • @FaithfulHorrorhound
    @FaithfulHorrorhound 2 роки тому +13

    Considering Dracula's splattered throughout with symbolism, and the nature of evil goes for both, I can see why Dracula would swing both ways, not just stick with one.

  • @Bruised.clown7
    @Bruised.clown7 2 роки тому +8

    Guys I think we’re forgetting Alucard being canonically bisexual in the Castlevania universe

  • @fightscrimewhilesleeping4024
    @fightscrimewhilesleeping4024 2 роки тому +8

    A version of Dracula where his same sex attraction is not the thing that makes him monstrous reminds me a lot of Bryan Fuller's Hannibal actually. As has been pointed out, Hannibal on that show ISN'T a vampire exactly, but he IS "A Dracula" lol

  • @christineherrmann205
    @christineherrmann205 2 роки тому +13

    "With kinks like that, will they even be allowed in Pride this year?"
    I snorted. Literally snorted. Great breakdown.

  • @Owesomasaurus
    @Owesomasaurus 3 роки тому +49

    Would now be a good time to mention that Lucy/Seward/Morris/Holmwood are basically a polycule or nah?

    • @SiraSpirit
      @SiraSpirit 3 роки тому +11

      They are absolutely a polycule and I will not shut up about this.

    • @yunamchill9169
      @yunamchill9169 2 роки тому +4

      Yep, when I read the novel, I really pegged Seward/Holmwood and Lucy/Mina. And Van Helsing with someone else, but I can't remember.

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 2 роки тому +3

      Hell yes, Lucy was very interested even lamenting outright, that marrying all 3 was not an option. She was faithful cause society demanded it, but nowerdays that could have been a polycule, especialy with how respectful accepting and not jalouse the guys reacted to her choice! A great fanfiction waiting to happen . . .

  • @yienne.illustration
    @yienne.illustration 2 роки тому +4

    The title hooked me but your eyeshadow kept me watching.

  • @thatfangirl1145
    @thatfangirl1145 3 роки тому +139

    I just watched a Bram Stocker video that spoke about the queer themes and touches upon the Oscar Wilde trials, and now this vid 😍 can't wait to see your take and what do you have to say about it 💖

    • @sarascarpati887
      @sarascarpati887 Рік тому

      Hi, I know it's late, but what video was that? I'm interested in watching that

  • @diogohenriquemagal6960
    @diogohenriquemagal6960 Рік тому +7

    Small correction regarding Dracula's all female victims: we do have a glimpse of Dracula's voracious "bisexuality" once he's onboard Demeter, having fed of all its male crew, but the captain, when it arrives at its destination. And let's not forget the promiscuity accusations constantly leveled at sailors/seamen. PS: love your channel :)

  • @UndecidedCryptid
    @UndecidedCryptid 2 роки тому +15

    I suppose the modern vampire would be about erasure then…that could actually work really well.
    That really puts a new spin on the invisible in the mirror.

  • @joaovitorfarinabraga690
    @joaovitorfarinabraga690 3 роки тому +5

    Gay, ginger, 6’2, loves gothic horror, my my mr. Stoker you’re hitting all the right marks for me

  • @xauxe
    @xauxe 2 роки тому +8

    As a fictional character he will have whatever sexuality I want him to have in my slash fic.

  • @raecheljosephine
    @raecheljosephine 2 роки тому +12

    we’re getting an interview with the vampire tv show next year and i’m hoping they make their bisexuality explicit as it’s okay now :)

  • @dseray9494
    @dseray9494 3 роки тому +17

    I just watched young frankenstine and now every time I hear frankenstine I hear Gene Wilder say 'fronkensteen'

  • @samsherwood8332
    @samsherwood8332 3 роки тому +13

    You keep making content which is targeted to my exact tastes and honestly thank you so much

  • @nataliaivonica3488
    @nataliaivonica3488 7 місяців тому +3

    my mom always says "of course all vampires are bi! if you've lived through hundreds of years, being attracted to only one kind of person would be so boring" and i think she slays for that

  • @seto749
    @seto749 3 роки тому +14

    The case was well made on the whole. I'm a little surprised you left out Barnabas Collins from Dark Shadows. Jonathan Frid's infusing his performance with so much reluctance was considered rather impactful; his portrayal also was illustrative of the restraints of the times.
    Knowing my G&S, I thought Ruthven rhymed with given.

    • @sircharlesmormont9300
      @sircharlesmormont9300 2 роки тому +1

      Ditto re: Barnabas. Also, the fanged four from Buffy were basically a semi-incestuous poly family for several decades, with bisexual relationships among all four members being heavily and often implied. Did we get any bi TV vamps in this video essay, or were they all just book and movie vamps?

  • @diydemiurge7818
    @diydemiurge7818 3 роки тому +21

    how can you talk abt bi vampires and not touch on the original bi4bi legends spike and drusilla from buffy the vampire slayer

  • @Cass63450
    @Cass63450 3 роки тому +9

    That was really interesting! I was not aware of the Bram Stoker / Oscar Wilde angle before. Thank you very much!

  • @meganshaw1949
    @meganshaw1949 3 роки тому +2

    Fright Night is also a film with a vampire who’s not picky about who his lovers were. His main house servant was even male.

  • @katiemarsh4970
    @katiemarsh4970 3 роки тому +10

    I literally cannot get enough of these video essays which manage to strike the balance between academic research, funny one-liners and a sexy red lip 😉

  • @quantumlandbooks4005
    @quantumlandbooks4005 Рік тому +4

    Love the video.
    I kind of like the idea that Harker is how Stoker would like to see himself (law degree, loving relationship with a badass woman) and Van Helsing is how Stoker sees himself (careful and retreated and loveless)
    If you want to read more about Stoker and Wilde, the letter Stoker got from Wilde's brother after he wrote a homophobic article in response to Wilde's incarceration is available. Also, if you're ever in Dublin Wilde's and Stoker's houses are super close to each other and next to a park that has a Wilde statue with his gayest quotes around it.

  • @jacquig1939
    @jacquig1939 2 роки тому +5

    Well, with what Moffet and Gatiss did with Sherlock I'm not surprised.

  • @AronDrakulya
    @AronDrakulya 3 роки тому +12

    Myself and some other non-binary individuals have come to a conclusion that vampirism can be associated with being non-binary. For us it clicks.

  • @zephyr_heart
    @zephyr_heart 2 роки тому +7

    Who’s here after starting Dracula Daily?

  • @Ilikebunnies-metoo
    @Ilikebunnies-metoo 3 роки тому +11

    0:34
    "If I described to you a handsome aristocratic man in the early eighteen-hundreds with a voracious bisexual appetite, who drank from a human skull..."
    Me: hmmm sounds like Lord Byron, but I'm not sure about the skull
    *2 seconds later*
    Me: it _is_ Lord Byron! :D this just made my day

  • @scifigrl92
    @scifigrl92 2 роки тому +3

    Why isn’t there an adaptation where Jonathan and Mina are a married couple who’ are actually beards where their true loves are Dracula and Lucy? Or a dual coming out story for them?

  • @IncandescentIdea
    @IncandescentIdea 2 роки тому +7

    Watching this video was just 27 minutes and 40 seconds of me, a young bisexual with anxieties around sex realizing why I've been so obsessed with vampires and vampire content my entire life. Can't wait to watch the other video where I will undoubtably find more internalized homophobia and biphobia to unpack

  • @ThisMagicHouse
    @ThisMagicHouse 3 роки тому +7

    Have you seen the 2013 American TV version of Dracula with Jonathan Rhys Meyers? It's full on bananas. Dracula's goal is to invent clean energy and therefore defeat the oil-funded secret society that cursed him. There is an entire episode devoted to the drama over whether the special sunblock he is working on will be successful so that he can attend a day-time board meeting in a greenhouse.

  • @whathow3109
    @whathow3109 3 роки тому +5

    thank you so much for the captions!english isn't my first language so it really helps me understand what you're saying better

  • @ashleyanne929
    @ashleyanne929 3 роки тому +3

    I feel like "caught up in scandal" is definitely the family friendly way of breaking down that part of Lord Byron's history

  • @your_dad_on_vacation
    @your_dad_on_vacation 3 роки тому +4

    So two of the most iconic halloween stories were created on a game night with friends?? That is the best thing I've heard all year

  • @AvaNightingale
    @AvaNightingale 3 роки тому +9

    This is exactly the content I came to enjoy and it's so refreshing to hear!

  • @athenageorgiadis8491
    @athenageorgiadis8491 3 роки тому +5

    This is fascinating, but I was so glad when you put that glass down 😂

  • @SolvableMattB
    @SolvableMattB 2 роки тому +50

    Love the idea of bi dracula hanging out at a bar and a straight couple harass him for a three way saying they love his vibe.

    • @cheskaarana6097
      @cheskaarana6097 Рік тому +5

      Thank you for the imagery!

    • @besukiBAM
      @besukiBAM Рік тому +3

      that would be so funny ha ha
      instead of him seduced him who is seduced

  • @lord_xylozdoomsday959
    @lord_xylozdoomsday959 2 роки тому +3

    I really liked interview with the vampire cuz even when i first watched it as a child i thought that it was a movie about family drama

  • @andreastyle4338
    @andreastyle4338 3 роки тому +8

    Vampires were my favorite creatures growing up, and it makes so much sense now lol 💗💜💙