Secure development with C++ - Lessons and techniques - Helge Penne - NDC TechTown 2023

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  • @mogenshansen7210
    @mogenshansen7210 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks a lot for the presentation. It is really good and practical.
    I have been involved developing parts of safety critical safety critical systems in C++ for many. To various degrees (depending on the context) I have been doing and/or promoting most of what you are describing for years.
    There is one thing I don't fully agree on in your presentation, and that is the use of operator[] vs at().
    If we assume that the system is not intended to try to do out-of-bounds access (like, we do not intensional use the exception thrown from at() to say terminate a loop), then regardsless of whether we use operator[] or at() we are by definition outside the scope of the intended state machine - we are executing a Weird Machine - if the program attempts to do out-of-bounds access. The question is: if we are in a unknown state, how can an exception be handled in such a way that garantees that we get back to a known state. I think that is impossible in general. The requirement must be that we get into a known state - which as described in the presentation may well be to terminate (and maybe restart) the application. Thus a reasonable implementation of operator[] could be to terminate the application in case of out-of-bounds access - which is well inside what is allowed from undefined behavior.