I think the fact Tatum can score so much while still having other elite scorers on the roster is a testament to how insanely good he is, if anything.
Edit: also thx for all the likes guys y'all real ones fs
My guy, anyone can score 30 points a game when they take 20-30 shots a game and 10+ free throws... the guy just gets stupid calls from refs to rack up points. I'm a Celtics fan, who has watched literally every second of every game of theirs, and I think that Tatum is the most overrated player in the NBA right now. I don't even thing he's the best player on his own team.
@@twistedtide I’m a Celtics fan too but saying Tatum is overrated is but too far, I mean sure he can be hard to watch sometimes and some calls may be bogus, but he is still an elite scorer with talent on both offense and defense. I don’t he is as good of a contender for the MVP as others but the only goal as a Celtics fan is for the whole team to be playing good simple basketball and Tatum/Brown to be locked in an lead the team back to the finals. Except this time win 👍
Actually when there is more weapons that makes it harder for the defense to just focus on him. You double team him and Robert Williams will be open for a lob/dunk or JB will have a mismatch. A football team with no good quarterback and no good wide receivers but a good running back will be easier to stop than if everyone was ok.
I don’t see why Jokic is higher than KD and Embiid. I didn’t get it last year but now his numbers are lower and he is still higher. I don’t understand it. He also makes not even close to the same impact on defense as Embiid does
People just favor him cause he won 2 mvp and a ring me personally having embiid behind both of them even after seeing their stats is insane like Joel shoots at a lower percentage but is averaging more than kd in almost all fields and almost equal to joker in rebounds but does defense better. Top two should be Joel and Giannis any way can go. Luka isn’t consistent with his numbers he is like JT on and off the
How jokic got better teamates than giannis bro tell me please
He may not have better teammates when they all healthy but holiday is in and out the lineup and middleton ain’t even playing.
Because brook lopez is the only consistently healthy player on the team that’s actually good
@@piyushmatta2363 jokic got nobody on the bench butt nobody he got Gordon who whitout jokic is a disseastor jamal 23 yo who dont play bbol 2 and a half years and 23 yo mpj solid shooter horible defender
@@raidenlp7269 And as you say this, the Bucks just won a game where he scored 7 points
Giannis has a 4 time all defensive nba player in Jrue who also takes over in the 4th, front runner defensive player of the year and vet in Lopez, Middleton an all star regardless of him currently being out, solid role players like Allen and portis who could possibly start on another team. Jokic has…..a runner up in the dunk contest and a gimpy Murray who has zero awards in anything. How tf are the nuggets better
It's between Jokic and Doncic for sure. Bucks have been losing a lot lately, and Giannis is hella inefficient. I actually have him 4th behind KD.
And personally, I'll take Jokic for just being the best offensive player possibly ever this year, on the 1st seed.
Totally agree with your rankings, it seems criminal to have someone at 6 dropping 30/8/4 a game, and first in the East, but that just shows how many people are going off this season
tbh these are pretty good rankings
@@Commandosoap777 ya lol luka at 1 and giannis at 2 rest is pretty much same
Pretty fair rankings, I think it’s a razor thin margin between the top 3 especially
Jayson Tatum is UNDERRATED
he has pretty much the same stats as kd with a lower shooting % he also has the best team in the league he just shouldn’t be mvp this year
He's actually quite overrated, it's not hard to excel on the 1 seed but he still has worse stats that most other superstars
The thing is that everybody cheers when the others players score over 30 points but no one ever mentions when Tatum scores over 30 just because he doesn’t it almost every game, you can’t say that he’s not a top 3 mvp candidate
The fact that Joel shoots 56.6% from the field last time I looked is crazy
it’s also crazy jokic is shooting almost 10% better fg and averaging less turnovers than embiid while doubling him in assists.
Giannis would have had +2 in APG if his teammates would make the 3s off of Giannis collapsing the defense. Most of his passes are to open wide shooters and his teammates can't even hit 40% of them. And while until a couple seasons before, his passing wasn't as great, now his passing is elite.
Giannis at 1 is a W, I would say Ja is 7th, but sometimes he is actually better than Tatum, it’s flops, but Ja should definitely be all nba first team this year he’s underrated
I hate how awards and all star selections are so biased. Jokic is first for MVP again for the third time in a row. Kyrie and KD are the top all star selections. This is so much disrespect to players like Embiid and Tatum and even Giannis who should be the top players right now
Nuggets are the most efficient team in the league when Jokic is on the court and the least when he is off
People really be forgetting wins matter when it comes to mvp voting
I wonder why no one’s talking about Joel getting 30 maybe cause 27 a night are from the free throw line
The roster around someone should not be a major arguing point for or against anyone’s mvp case
How much do you value where a team is seeded? Like do you think a player with the best stats on a play-in team deserves MVP over someone with top 5 stats on a 1 seed
@@IHateCraccersThe only reason the Celtics have the best roster in the nba is because they have Tatum. Saying his supporting cast is good is a whole different argument.
@@belarod5295 Not talking to u, if u think the roster around someone is irrelevant than I wanna know what that person thinks about what seed their team is.
@@belarod5295 The dude that posted the comment said roster was irrelevant. That’s why I mentioned it, I was never talking to you🤦♂️
Jokic makes his teammates alot better than they'd be without him. MPJ hits spot up 3s from the best passer in basketball. Jamal Murray does P&R with the best pick in basketball. Aaron gordon gets an open paint for easy 2s cuz jokic draws so much pressure. Jokic IS the nuggets
The fact that donovan mitchell isnt top 6 with how he is playing rn just goes to show how good the nba is. Also id have luka jokic and giannis in that order but good list still
I swear this guy hates jayson Tatum
The fact that in today's nba a guy can average 31 and 8 on crazy efficiency and lead the first seed in the east not even be considered a favourite for MVP is mind blowing
I remember just recently jokic fans were saying he should be the mvp because he had the best record in the NBA. Even tho his numbers weren't as good as others. And now that Jason has the best record all of a sudden best record doesn't mean anything no more. It's why I pay no attention. People move the goal post to fit their agenda. It's really sad.
Good job
I agree tatum shouldn’t be top 3 anymore but saying he isn’t because he plays on “the best roster in the nba” is not a good argument lmao. Typically that’s what the MVP goes to. The best player on the best team. There have been 2-3 exceptions in the last decade to that rule
Crazy that in the last 10 seasons if we put these guys in they'd all win atleast one
The reason why Tatum should be higher is cause that he’s in such a good team a team with that much skill and depth with Jaylen brown as well that’s almost averageing as much as him and he still has those stats shows a lot
Nearly 70% ts is insane!
This must be 2 months old!
Tatum at six is wild. Unless you are just talking about skill then yeah. But he’s number 1 or 2 for mvp
“Tatum plays on the best team” BUT HES THE BEST ON THE TEAM
But he's not the sole reason why they are winning, you know. He's the worst player on this list alongside Embiid/KD. Now imagine Celtics had Jokić or Luka. They would go 75-7
Tatum is easily 1st for MVP, they are the best team in the league BECAUSE of him. MVP has NEVER been an award given to the best player, its a traditional award given to the best player on one of the best teams
1st in the west averaging a triple double at 3 is crazy
Thanks giving joel actual credit
Spida deserves more credit
He’s not quite an MVP contender in my opinion, but he’s had more than one good game. Even though he has stepped it up this season, I can’t argue for him over any of these 6 players. Could be knocking on top 10’s door by the end of the season. 👍👍
It’s not the Best Player Award it’s the Most VALUABLE Player award. With that Lukas the favorite, he’s leading that roster to the playoffs so far and they can’t win without him
The Right Answer:
1. Luka
2. Jokic
3. Giannis
4. KD
5. Tatum
6. Embiid
A lot of people are bringing up how Jokic has a high seed rn. That argument doesn't mean anything, he won last year as a low ish seed so it's kinda weird to try to say he should win because he's a high seed now.
W Andrew
Do this again now
The tatum hate is lowkey crazy
High key lmao clsssic example of people only caring about the flashy BS and disregarding the entire other side of the court…defense! Tatum is the most complete wing here because the best two-way wing in basketball, it’s just that simple. Who else scores 40 while also guarding Kevin Durant full-time? But of course people think Lyla is somehow better when Tatum’s offense is slightly worse with exponentially better defense. It’s really sad to see how dumbfounded majority NBA fandom can be
@@ae1889 Luka is simply better. No point of disproving that. The little defense that Tatum brings does nothing compared to what Luka can do. That's just how things work. Put Tatum in any other team and we wouldn't know him.
@A E my man 1 steal and a block a game is pretty damn good defense way better than luka defensively and tatums a better finisher near the rim and put tatum on any other team there still gonna be great , and not to hate but if tatum had the ball in his hand on every play he could also drop 40 every other night
luka is really getting his credit this year and i’m liking it but it’s weird he had to beat the suns and drop 60 this year for a ounce of respect
Forgotten is an understatement. He can’t be best player in this league without a average middy. We’re not asking for too much.
thank you for not riding Tatum like the media and brain-dead fans
"Jokic has better teamates" bro Nikola Jokic is irreplaceable on the Nuggets not to mention he is averaging a near triple double and they are the 1st seed.
Yeah and to add on when they played the Hornets, he had like 40 points, 20+ rebounds and 10+ assists. Sorry but Giannis ain't doing those type of numbers
@@stoopid_life so when he played the worst defensive team in basketball he put up insane number, surprising, even crazier is the fact that Giannis is in fact putting up those numbers. He had back-to-back 45/20/5 games and then a 55/15/5 game
How can someone being on the best team in the NBA make them a worse MVP candidate
Wow In what world is averaging 30 8 and 4 “not as good as other guys” the talent in the nba right now is just absolutely insane
I'm not upset about this take
Tf he talking about kevin durant CPR the entire team like kyrie wasnt averaging 29ppg during the run 🤣
i actually agree
Defense should definitely be a bigger factor in the MVP race too. Giannis is as good as anyone on offense, but he's easily the best defender in this group.
Jokic is by far the best offensive player in the league and scoring the basketball is more important than nearly any defensive value. Look at that roster in Denver, you really think the Nuggets are better with Giannis instead of Jokic?
@@southsider3542 yes bc giannis is the best player in the league rn. Not a question
@@curse4384 I can't see any way you can consider Giannis better. Giannis' skillset is not better than Jokic's. Jokic can do literally anything offensively, whereas Giannis just drives. Great finisher, but give me Jokic's more complete offensive profile over Giannis. Jokic has taken a worse roster, in a tougher conference, to the same exact record
@@curse4384 you must not watch a lot of basketball. Luka and jokic are breaking records….again. While giannis is having one of the worst years of his career
@@Itdontmatter2000 Huh? Giannis has been dominating the league this season. Even on nights like last night when his shots ain't falling, he still provides passing, rebounding, and elite defense. He's the sole reason the Bucks are a top 3 seed even without their second best player.
Tatum should be top three because who gives a shit what your doing individually if your teams not playing well so since he is the no.1 seed he should be at least 3rd. These players would give up the MVP in a heartbeat if it means to play on a very competitive team
Durant over Tatum is crazy
Jokic is having a better season than his last 3 MVP seasons
They’re all having better season then last year. What is that argument?
@@zyrillsnickers3286 The argument is that it seemed like it wouldn't even be possible to play better than that, but now we see it it possible.
@@chevu_2 That's literally for every MVP candidate right now there's like 8 players you can say that for. Doesn't improve his case much really
A few vids ago he said giants is the best player on the best team in the nba now he’s saying Tatum has the best roster
Thank you, it feels like Giannis is getting disrespected lately
Not disrespected, it's just that Luka and Nikola are too good to even compare them with anybody else.
You pointed how jt is on the best roster. That makes his 30 ppg more impressive my guy
Embiid at 5 really aged well😊
Good but I switch Luka and the Greek Freel
Bruh Embiid underrated as hell
Damn right, dont take the freaks greatness for granted
Tatum and Jokic 💀
There isn't a bigger casual nba fan than this guy
Saying that Jokic has better Team mates than Giannis is kinda crazy. Khris is an elite scorer, Brook is playing like a dpoy this season and Jrue is playing like a dpoy since the past ten years and made huge offensive improvements over the years. Theres also Ibaka, Allen, Carter, Ingles and more that are pretty solid
I guess we forgot spidas 71 piece
Damn bur steph
Yea Tatum 44 shooting percentage and he in the mvp conversation while all other guys shooting above 50
Damn this has changed a lot now since KD got injured unfortunately
comment section is literally
“*player commenter likes* at *place that isnt 1st that they have in the video* is crazy ngl”
tatum at 6 is crazy… he’s the front runner
Bucks havnt even been playing well lately and giannis is still holding I’m in that top 3 team section
Don’t let joker make history
What Luka is doing is just nut the prayer he has at the 4th seed in the west as won a game without him in 9 months
I think Luka should be 1 he's carrying a trash team and averaging a near 34 point triple double
That was a little disrespectful to Tatum
Joker don’t have “better teammates”. HE makes everyone on that team better and his +- shows for that.
5 to 2
i dont get it. what else does luka have to prove for you guys to say hes the mvp? it feels weird saying this and i dont know if i fully agree with it but he is becoming an underrated mvp candidate
Last year Jokic won because he carried a subpar roster to the playoffs, and that’s exactly what Luka is doing now. I’m picking the wonder boy
Luka doesn’t have Christian wood no more in the roster😂
having good teammates shouldnt take away from your claim at mvp 🤦♂️
The fact people acting like Tatum as the best roster is mind blowing to me. That team doesn't win without Tatum playing. My magic beat them 3 times this season and they completely fall apart when Tatum is not in the game. That's a lie, he doesn't have the best roster. People saying that just to take away the fact his team is #1.
His gonna put luka in first without watching it
embiid and tatum should be higher than durant, i have been pretty biased towards durant but without his role players stepping up and steve nash getting fired they were bad durant didn’t change
Personally I would put alex curuso or bol bol at my number 1
Jokic at 2 or 1, never at 3
Kevin Durant did help the team but they really got going when Kyrie came back. They’re the best number 2s in the game
Weird. Having Jokic at three because he has good teammates but then having Giannis at one with worse stats while his team is arguably better than Jokic's. With that logic Luka or KD should be first
Don’t forget how Giannis has improved his passing significantly which opens up more scoring opportunities for his teammates
Don't forget how Giannis has a ridiculous turnover rate bro had 12 turnovers in one game and had 27 over 5 games at one point that's also not to talk about how Giannis has been straight garbage at shooting
@@shadic4977 which makes it even more impressive to score a 55 point game or 45 and 20 game without even making 3s.
@@brockbowen2806 in games like those they usually shoot above average biggest example is wilt going 28-30 from free throws in his 100 point game from what I remember and he was sub 60% from free throw
@@shadic4977 hater drinking hateraid
I’m a big Luka and Gianni’s fan and they’re the 2 people who’s nba jersey I have, bud Gianni’s is far more inconsistent this year than years past. 7 points against the hawks and single digits against the hornets aswell? I don’t know what’s going on but I hope he figures it out.