Brian Orser (CAN) - 1988 Calgary, Figure Skating, Men's Long Program (US ABC)
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2009
- Calgary, Alberta, CANADA - 1988 Winter Games, Men's Long Program - Brian Orser of Canada stepped out of a triple flip and downgraded the 2nd triple Axel into a double, and that would be enough to allow the majority of the judges to place him 2nd in the Long Program and 2nd Place overall. Boitano and Orser tied in total of the scores by some of the judges. The first tiebreaker then would be skater with the higher Technical Merit mark, which was why Boitano managed to win the Long Program. The following year, the ISU voted to change the first tiebreaker to be the skater with the highest Artistic Impression score in the Long/Free Program. Had this been the rule at these Olympics, Orser would have won.
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Boitano had a triple axle and a triple triple but his spread eagle was magical. I had not to this day see anybody leaning that far into the ice like Boitano. Orser was rewarded later in his career with Gold metal students, that's his magic and glory.
In 1988, in the 6.0 scoring system there was not really a place to award more points for the 'Tano lutz with the arm over the head, but today, that's more points. As you say, Orser has excelled as a coach, and this program was no slouch either.
It's the blaring marching band kind of music that drives me crazy, to me everything else is fine. The skippy choreography seems characteristic of the time.
It’s often been said that the difference between winning gold and winning silver has a lot to do with how the skaters skate. Some people skate to not lose or to not make a mistake, and other people skate to win. I think that’s what happened here. To me, it appeared that Boitano put his entire heart and soul into his program on this night. He didn’t hold back at all and he charged into every element at 100%. Orser seemed tense and he skated very cautiously. Boitano deserved the gold for sure.
Absolutely. Skating safe almost never pays off, which includes a skater depending too much on his or her artistic abilities, expecting them to put him over the top so he can pull back technically. Orser skated safe and lost, but he wasn't the only one. Michelle Kwan skated safe in '98 and lost, too. There wasn't enough distance between her and Tara Lipniski artistically that Michelle could afford to pull back technically and yet, that's what she did. If Michelle had done a triple-triple in her LP, I believe the judges would have gone her way. Kim Yuna in 2014 is another example. She skated perfectly but only had 6 triples in her LP, depending on her reputation and artistry to make up the difference. It didn't. Yes, there was likely a cheating scheme in play at those Olympics, but Kim could easily have thwarted it by doing 7 triples in her LP, which was the standard for the ladies, instead of 6. There are other examples, but those skaters are probably the most famous losses for skating safe.
@@L1623VP I totally agree. The only time you can skate safe to win is when all your opponents made errors, which was what Shizuka Arakawa did in Torino 2006 and it worked in her favor because both Sasha Cohen and Irina Slutskaya had falls
Brian B’s program remains the finest choreographed and delivered programs of all time, as well as technical.
@@ardishorwich4601 I totally agree. I think his program really stood the test of time. Turn a few of those triple jumps into quads instead, and this program would be a gold medal winning performance even by today’s standards. (Just my opinion 😊)
What made it so great aside from his technical ability was that the music, choreography, and even the costume was perfect for him. Sandra Bezic literally was like a great Taylor with her choreography. All the skaters she worked with looked their best.
I was pulling for Boitano very hard in 1988. I watched both again today for the first time since then, and I was expecting that I might see it differently, but no. Boitano was far and away the better of the two that night.
Boitano's spread eagle alone was worth the gold. No one in the world has ever done it like he does it!
And His Death Drop! WOW 4ft in the air. Brian Botanio was the best by far.
I've never seen a more beautiful spread eagle than Boitano's. He also did a really nice job on his flying camel.
It was a nice performance, especially given Orser's history of nerves. In any other year, he might have won the gold. But that night belonged to Boitano. That spread eagle, those splits, and that death drop--stunning.
Very clean and the movements for a guy is superb! Boitano guy
Brian Botanio was always known as the Best Male Jumper. He gets 4ft high on his death drop. Not til Elvis Stoyko did another Jumper come that could jump like Brian B. And it wasnt close!!!
He just popped a jump.
The difference came from that Boitano skated everything he was capable of to win, and Orser downgraded his 2nd triple axel to a double in order to not fall. Both Brians put up fantastic performances that night, but skating safe usually does not work out when you want to win. The only time you can do that is if all your opponents made errors
Brian strikes me as unusually tall for a male skater (5'11") compared to other leading men (Scott Hamilton 5'2"). The length of bone allows for more muscle. What has always struck me most about Brian is the beautiful musculature of his legs. I've not seen that much development anywhere other than a ballet stage. Though he cannot do the rapid gymnastics of a petite, Brian makes optimal use of his height and strength, powerful jumps, elegant extensions, exceptional control, His build is a key component of his magnificent spread eagles.
Boitano did 2 triple axels- Orser did one- that's the gold.
This was good, but didn’t have the drama and perfect changes (and perfect skating!) that Boitano’s did.
can't believe they interviewed him straight in the kiss and cry, after he lost out on a gold medal. Like give him time to process first!
His choreography was beautiful but Brian did earn his Gold.
Orser skated very well and deserved his silver. Boitano was clearly the superior skater and the best in this competition. I don't think it was as close as the scores; Boitano's entire presentation had a better arc, was technically brilliant, and the skating was more confident. However, I don't like the long wait at the beginning of Boitano's program and that idea has become too popular.
Great competition and congrats to both men!
I think Boitano had to stand there and wait because his music might have been too long. Your music can go over the time limit, but your actual skating movements must remain under time or you get deducted. If Boitano had moved a second too early, maybe that could have cost him the gold, LOL
It's such a pity with the new scoring that we don't seem to get the full artistrry anymore.
Kinda charming to see Orser mouth "SH#T" after learning he was second, and then his coach immediately and discreetly elbowing him in the ribcage to collect himself before Santee interviewed him.
I’m glad they stopped doing these interviews in the kiss and cry. How brutal for Brian to see those marks, think he probably won, be told he was narrowly second and have zero time to process that before he needs to be in an interview. Brutal
In retrospect, it's funny and entertaining to listen to them down play the triple flip and the doubled triple axel in order to prepare the audience for what they expected as the anticipated result. Too funny
You can really tell a resemblance in performance when it comes to Yuzuru Hanyu. Kudos to a great coach!
The snap he has in the air for sure.
BOITANO IS SO HARD TO BEAT BECAUSE HE IS ESPECIALLY CONSISTANT.
That interview in the K and C was cruel and unusual. Thank God they don't do this anymore.
I remember watching this. All these years later I watch it again, and think that the right man won. I hated this choreography. His arms flailing and choppy movements. He seemed out of control for much of the routine and demonstrated very little grace. Again, I attribute that to the choreography, and the music didn't help. His split jumps were nowhere near as high or graceful as Boitano's. Comparing the two routines, Boitano's was more measured, controlled, which I'd normally think subtracts from connecting with the audience and judges emotionally. However, in this case it works because it reflects military precision. If Orser could have presented a skate that was more controlled, or at least more graceful and artistic, it would have elevated it to another level. But it had none of that. It was an inferior routine. So the gold went to the USA, and rightfully so.
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Grace was missing...I give him the technique of the jumps with this spins but Boitanos were clean and flawless. This guy had perfection in mind but Boitano gracefully showed us perfection and finness. Great job regardless
Not to mention that there was an unbridled exuberance and joy to Boitano's performance that just carried everyone along with it right to the on-the-nanosecond ending....even Boitano's one glitch, the two-foot landing, was done with aplomb and confidence, not taking anything away from the jump.
i was born in 2001 so i have 0 bias between the brians and i haven’t even seen boitano’s programs, but i agree both orsers short AND long program are WAY too flaily and he lacks precision in most of his choreo movements. it looks like he simply just hasn’t practiced the precision of his choreo at all. he also kind’ve skates with his hands at hip height like he’s doing school figures rather than having them up at his chest in more of a ballet-esque position. that may just be the time period but it’s very noticeable in some spots lol
I would have given Orser 5.6/5.9 & Boitano 6.0/5.7. Boitano rightly won.
Except Boitano two-footed his 2nd triple axel so a 6.0 for technical merit would not even remotely be warranted. Other than that, a superb program.
@@Person-mh6xq ok.....
Orser was under scored, technically..his program was superior…
@@Person-mh6xq he didnt 2 foot a triple Axel. Even boitano was upset at dick button for stating that on air in subsequent interviews. He said he didn't make any mistake. Ive seen the video multiple times and cannot point out what dick was talking about.
@@jamesyu5212 yes, I read something a few years back that Dick Button later re-watched Boitano’s performance from a different camera angle, and he realized that Boitano did not two foot that jump. He apologized to Boitano for saying/thinking it was 2 footed and he admitted that he had been wrong.
I can't believe this got 4 first place votes.
No kidding. Those presentation scores were outrageously high. This was a clear result and should have been scored as clearly. A little favoritism there.
Slightly better artistry than Brian’s program but the technical precision and stamina belongs to Brian 🇺🇸 🥇 🙌🏾
Oh, is the definition of artistry tiptoeing around like you are on hot coals?
this happens to be one of my all time favourite programs , I don't care about how boitano skated or who won the gold medal ... we can still appreciate talent and beautiful skating , and you can definately root for boitano without having to make orser look like he doesn't know a damn about skating ... this is total nonesense -_-
Boitano gave everything he got during the night where it mattered the most, and it paid off. Orser's jumps look so floaty and effortless in the air, and he put up a great fight
If you read Wiki on this competition, the Canadian skating federation had a secret pact with the East Euro judges. It nearly worked.
The Russian judge later backed out on the deal and voted for Boitano, that made the difference in the 5-4 decision in his favor.
0:51 BEST use of music + technical element for beautiful dramatic effect 🤯
Yes Dick Button - "It did make a difference" - two foot landing/and step out, no 3x3, and one 3 axel, and 6 triples vs 8 (BB) too many 2 axels. I like Orser ALOT, but the lack of technical difficulty, and more obvious mistake, and lack of energy at end comes in 2nd to Boitano. I'm surprised it was even a 5-4 split, should have 7-2 IMO.
I have just started watching these 2 performances again. Brian Boitano was absolutely mesmerizing. Some say his arms, movements were stiff but he was actually in character with the military style music. His performance was sheer perfection in many aspects. I won't enumerate since you have done a very good job of listing the fine points and aspects of Boitano's gold winning performance. The music was wonderful and let us give credit to Sandra Bezak for her choreography. Also Boitano's costume was even more classy, the navy and burgundy colors. It is obvious there was a lot of attention to details in this performance. I enjoy watching this every time.
Excelente recuerdo y ejecución. Todo un digno patinador
Yuzuru's coach was a fun to watch..just like how yuzu entertained his audience...superb artistic impression
EXCELENTE!!!! EN ESE TIEMPO NO LO VI, Y AHORA QUE PUEDO VERLO ES REALMENTE FANTASTICO!!
USA Judges make me proud. They gave Canadian Bryan great marks even though Brian B had been cheated a bit. I love my country and am proud of us.
Nobody’s fault but the fact they both did military programs - makes it easier to compare and Orser doesn’t come out on the right side of that one choreography and artistry wise. Boitano’s overall program was more dramatic and engaging. But this program has grown on me and Orser faced such enormous pressure he did phenomenal.
Boitano faced the same pressure because he came behind Hamilton.
Overscored. No way he deserved such high marks in artistic merit. It was choppy, simplistic execution and choreography. There was collusion amongst the judges for Orser to win. He'd came in 2nd at the previous Olympics to the American Scott Hamilton, and these Olympics were on his home turf of Canada. One judge didn't go along with the plan and voted his conscience. That was the difference. Fortunately, the more deserving man won.
absolutely spot on. Thank God for that judge with a conscience. NO question Boitano deserved the gold.
The military theme delivered by Boitano was far stronger and more convincing than Orser's version. I didn't buy it and feel it was over scored artistically and technically. Orser looked like a Nutcracker puppet doll.
Without a second 3A I’m not sure why this was close. Smart if he felt tired (and lord knows the pressure on him after 4 years was something he handled beautifully to earn the silver and present so well) (pressure most people will never face in their lives) but BB was no slouch in composition either. What they did for skating was awesome but the skating skills necessary now (not just stand up and skate across the ice with arm movements until your next jump) by comparison (plus harder jumps) shows how far it’s come in 32 years. Canada deserves a men’s champ tho, when it happens that’ll be wonderful on the shoulders of Cranston Orser Stojko Chan...
It was that close because Canada was trying to cheat and get a judging voting swap but the USSR judge refused to participate. Boitano should have won all judges.
These guys were clearly the best of their era.
In the long program at this competition, I think Boitano won the jumps by a large margin. Boitano had two triple axels and one double axel (compared to one triple and two doubles for Orser). The other jumps were comparable (with Boitano having better height and distance) except for Orser's two-foot and step-out on the triple flip. I did not see a two-foot landing from Boitano; the landing of the second 3A just looked heavy on the toe pick.
In the spin department, some of Orser's spins travelled noticeably where Boitano's did not. I liked Boitano's spin positions somewhat better, and nobody, not even Orser, had as much fly on the death-drop as did Boitano.
I think Orser's footwork sequence was better than Boitano's.
Thus, Boitano clearly deserved the higher technical marks.
Regarding presentation marks, I would have given Boitano higher marks. Orser's skated almost every note of the music and did so extremely well. I found, however, that the program was rapid-fire from beginning to end, showed us only a kind of military parade ground routine, and expressed little emotion. Boitano's program had more artistic breadth. We saw, of course, a military aspect, but also some playfulness and some romance. His program changed tempo four times, as well, and Boitano expressed the music's emotions really well.
So, I think Boitano's performance was better in almost every respect. While I rate neither Orser nor Boitano above the other over their entire careers, I think the decision for this program should have been 9-0 in favor of Boitano. I did not find the two performances, in comparison, merited a 5-4 decision.
I loved Brian Orser!
It's no wonder the silver recipients sometimes feel a bit cheated. They are so stunning but I did really love boitano. I can't even stand up in ice skates
Surprising to hear Dick Button's disappointment in the outcome (as least that's how I felt it sounded). Dick always seemed to roll with the favorites tho, which to his audience sometimes left them shocked when the favorites didn't win. We all learned a ton about figure skating from Dick, but I always appreciate honest critiques no matter who was skating.
Brian B. just seemed to have more energy and artistry than Brian O. Both great performances.
When Orser gets the news that he came in second, there's a jerk with a microphone asking him how he "feels".
To all you people here arguing about the Battle of the Brians and who won it -let me tell you this - and then you decide: I am what you call "younger generations", I was not around to watch this back in 1988....I do however know very well who Brian Orser is (he coached Yuzuru Hanyu, Yuna Kim, Javier Fernandez and for a while even Evgenia), so I know him as the greatest coach of our era, and I know they have a Brian Orser Arena in Canada...But when I first heard about the "Battle of Brians", I had to GOOGLE who the other Brian was - because we have no clue who Brian Boitano is, we never heard of him. Older Millenials apparently heard of him through South Park - but they also had to Google him back then, because they didn't know who he was either. Now maybe that will help you put things into perspective. One gold medal at the Olympics in the 1980's is just that - one gold medal VEERRRY long time ago. What matters though is your LIFETIME achievement. I would say there is no doubt which Brian won that one.
Brian Boitano was the greatest male skater from the era where everyone cared about skating. Period.
The battle of the Brians. Classic. Both were great but this night Boitano was a little bit better.
C8toujours avec un imm plaisir que je regarde ce programme fantastique du maître B. O
In my opinion - he couldn't hold a candle next to Boitano
I like Dick Button but he was wrong in his commentary of this program's mistakes. The mistake on the flip was glaring and ugly, and it impacted the overall presentation of the program... The only minor technical glitch with Boitano was the two footed landing on the second triple Axel which was not anywhere near as glaring, and some say it was not two-footed at all... Then you factor in the fact that Orser had no second Triple Axel and it is really not a contest at least technically...
I love the way he now trains yuzu, who's great
BOITANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAVO DOLL!!!!!
Yuzuru has a lot of Brian's style..
Великий спортсмен стал великим фигуристом.
Brian Orser nice young man, brilliant Skater. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏼👍🏼
I liked both Brians.
@@triciajohansen3027 Me too, I just adore them both! Plus - I also love Viktor Petrenko! So the medals at these Olympics are so fine with me 🙂
Why do they always have to “leave room” when judging? Call a spade a spade and give them the high marks deserved regardless of skating order
Прекрасная интерпретация Музыки Шостаковича. Замечательное катание.
If the artistic mark had been the "tie breaker" (and not the technical mark), then Orser would have won. Six years later, the tie breaker would switch to the artistic mark, which resulted in Baiul winning the gold against Kerrigan.
Thank God he didn't because Canada was trying to cheat and it was total BS that all 9 judges didn't give it to Boitano.
Now he is training the greats.
He messed up, so Boitano deserved the gold.
Beautiful
From what I heard. Button had a side business representing champion skaters, and was intending to do same with Orser, which explains his adoring and mitigating comments about Orser's performance. Knowing that, you can hear the conflict of interest in the whole of his commentating for this event.
Button is an idiot.
Wonderful 3Lz with short preparation at the beginning...the rest not as good lol
It’s interesting to see how the complexity of spins has changed from back the To now most of these spins would only be lvl 1 or 2 and he dosnt hold them for that long
Outstanding skater. He bears an uncanny resemblance to Robert Powell, the actor who played Jesus in the classic film "Jesus of Nazareth" by Zeffirelli.
I'm sure Brian Orser has looked back at the toe pick of his triple flip jump entrance and realize he made a stupid silly mistake of not reaching far back enough on his toe pick for the flip jump take off.
It's the ABC's of jumping.
That's just the basics of figure skating that Orser botched.
I'm sure it was nerves.
Even with that I don't know if it would have been enough to overtake Boitano and win. I don't think so.
At the World's a month later Orser skated a clean free long and Boitano still beat him.
Toe Pick.....The Cutting Edge.
After rewatching this choreography, I'd love to see him and Zhenya do a mime off.
The jazz hands at 1:10 tho 🖐🤚
David Santee was one of the worst interviewers ever. I remember he told Kristi Yamaguchi “You’re skating so well this week, you should buy a lotto ticket. What’s was the key move in your estimation?” Then here he tells Brian Orser, “I have both good news for you, and bad news.” Like what the F ?! 🤦🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
Santee was inexperienced. Jim McKay was constantly talking into David's earpiece that Orser had lost as Santee was approaching Orser for the interview. I mean there was only one reason why McKay was constantly yapping into Santee's ears about Orser's 2nd place finnish - he wanted Santee to ask Orser about it and he did. Santee of course took the fall for it while McKay stay mummed as if he had no role in that debacle at all.
Felt badly for Brian😢
The artistic marks were a little too high for this performance
Just a case of he was very good, but someone else was better. Doesnt mean he was not good.
it all came down to the triple axel. Orser did 1 and boitano did 2, and therefore Boitano edged out Orser by 1 judge with 5 judges for Boitano and 4 judges for Orser.
and it was a more visible flaw, AND Orser two-footed one of his last jumps and looked tired....too many less-than-perfect optics...meanwhile Boitano was high on great vibes and just flying thru his program.
This is mean to say, but at this time, the United States had zero gold medals and it was becoming increasingly likely that our country would go through this olympics without any. So here we are at home hoping he'd screw up just so Brian Boitano would get it. Then Bonnie Blair surprises in speedskating later in the last week.
Wow he was better than his students.
😭😭😭😭
In some moves he reminds me of Victor Pietrinko.
Orser's choreography was always too busy for my taste. It felt like his choreographer threw in everything but the kitchen sink. Only the costume and the music matched the military theme. Everything else about the choreography was WTH ?
BOITANO DID NOT HAVE A 2 FOOT LANDING ON HIS SECOND TRIPLE AXEL. BUTTON YOUR EYES ARE FAILING YOU.
I dunno...that's why you see that dusting of ice..usually an indicator of a two-foot. The jump still looked stunning, even if it was imperfect.
Agree with you about “usually” indicates a two foot landing-but this night it did NOT.
I don’t know why people see it as even being close. Boitano had 2 3A, and had more speed, better landings, and better skating skills.
Boitano did not have better skating skills. Boitano had the better choreographed programs at Calgary that smartly disguised his weaknesses and emphasized his strengths. Of course going almost clean on all of his jumps (except for the very minor two feet on the 2nd 3axel) and skating confidently helped a lot too.
@@3l3llala13Orser's routine didn't really convey a message because it was a bit confusing and never changed pace. He needed a better choreographer.
God these announcers …. I have good news & bad news…. Wtf
Смотреть приятно, но некоторая хаотичность, танец непонятен. А фигурист красавчик
It’s easy to see why he’s become a top coach ... I wonder why Boitano didn’t do the same!😽
No need. Boitano built a million dollar dynasty off his gold medal. He's still the gold standard with regards to Olympic performances.
@@ebonylady I think it is much more rewarding and much more of a legacy to pass on your skill, nurture new talent and build up a small legion of new champions, then just earn a bunch of bucks...BTW Orser also got rich from professional figure skating/shows after he retired from competitive..Also, it's no small thing to have an arena named after you - I don't think there is a Brian Boitano Arena anywhere... Boitano won at the Olympics, but in the decades after that and up until today, it is definitely Brian Orser that has build up a much stronger legacy.
when I watched robin cousins winning 1980 olympics despite a mistake , over a clean jan hoffman , scott hamilton in 84 with his awkward skating and omitted his 3flip , over a clean Brian orser . viktor petrenko in 92 with so many mistakes over paul wylie .. and that was okay , but here Orser , stepped out of a triple flip , but skated otherwise a clean program , came in SECOND .. Yet recieving such comments here for why he was a close second ...... really?!! , where is logic , people ?
Orser was second because Boitano was brilliant. He didn't match his rival, which he had to do but failed. Boitano's routine was outstanding.
That's one way to get the Russian judges to mark you well.
That choreography at 1:41 is awful, looks like something a clown would do.
I know. It's like a puppet on a string, and the knee slap. Really? It's 10 seconds of the worst choreography ever. Actually, this entire choreography has nothing to do with a military soldier. So weird and inappropriate.
@@L1623VP I completely agree. I just watched this program after not seeing it for a long time and I thought This is even worse than I remembered! Horrible music horrible choreography. How did this get a 6.0 for artistic impression??
@@valerieteti1755 Because the fix was in for Orser to win gold no matter how he skated. It's absurd that his score was anywhere near Boitano's, not just with this ridiculous hippity-hoppity choreography and circus-like music while wearing a military uniform, but also because his technical content was so much lower than Boitano's. Boitano did two triple axels, two triple flips, and a triple-triple combination, all of which Orser didn't do. On top of that, Orser fell out of his only triple flip and downgraded what was supposed to be his second triple axel to a salchow, which he two-footed and yet, we're supposed to believe Boitano won the gold on a "broken tie" when in reality it wasn't even close.
Go to the 17:20 mark in the link below to hear Boitano's coach, Linda Leaver, talk about how she was approached by the Russian judge on the panel of the Calgary '88 Olympic men's LP fifteen years later. He admitted to her that there was a cheating scheme in place to push Orser to the top of the podium. He shared with Leaver that after seeing Boitano's flawless and far superior LP, he had to vote his conscience and score Boitano higher. It was the Russian's technical mark for Boitano that tipped the scale in Boitano's favor and gave him his rightful gold. The man said it was one of the proudest moments in his life and even had his young son with him while he was telling the story so he could learn from it.
As a consequence of diverging from the plan, the Russian was quickly fired by the Russian Skating Federation. That's why the scores were so ridiculously close and Orser was way overscored.
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@@L1623VP Wow thanks for this info I never knew this but I totally believe it. Thank goodness the Russian judge ( how ironic ) did the right thing and put Boitano the deserving gold medalist first. His program is mesmerizing and he absolutely skated the performance of his life that night.
@@valerieteti1755 Ironic, indeed! Thank God the Russian judge proved to be the exception to the Russian rule on corruption.
I watched this live in 1988 and I knew he wasn't going to win the Gold. His goofy music never was attractive.
Awesome skater!
absolutely love him, my favourite skater of all time, along with Kurt. Too bad because he really deserved the gold in 84 - winning both the short and long program over Scott Hamilton, but because of the compulsory figures component, he lost the gold then.
Am I the only one who does not care for this music? The beginning sounded almost like music you would hear at a circus, the tuba and horns and maybe xylophone. I thought the closing music was dramatic.
Definitely music for a clown parade 🤡
Never understood why the Orser camp chose this music.
I think his choice of music was not as impressive as Boitano's.
I agree and the transitions didn't flow. One part in particular was so screechy, in my opinion.Hard to listen to. Boitano's music conveyed strength and endurance.
@@MicVic7780Correct. Brian can feel music very well and his routine was created to win.
I know it's very unfair to judge past skaters by today's standards, but this skating would not even put you in the final group today. The technical is worlds apart, but so is the artistic. Fun to watch though.
Technical skating was far more difficult because they had school figures, required footwork, and elite artistic ability whereas today's skaters just perform quads. The death drop has vanished.
I wouldn't say so..Today's figure skating is more like jumping on ice, and for a lot of people who love the beauty and the artistry of figure skating combined with the athleticism, today's figure skating has no charm and is often a bit boring to watch (jump!jump!jump!)
In my opinion, this is part of where Yuna and Yuzuru get their greatness from..
I disagree. Yuzuru is a natual born genius.
Actually, Yuzuru's 2012 Worlds FS performance with a Japanese coach was 10 times better than 2014 Sochi FS under Orser
mhm no
And Javier fernandez
@@junkao8624 I agree with you, it's really so.
Jane Doe bruh seriously
A beautiful skater, but Boitano has the artistry and his "spread eagle" is one of the most gorgeous moves in figure skating.
That spread eagle by Boitano is legend.
Not just the spread eagles, but Boitano's split jumps and death drop were always HUGE.
i feel like michelle's deep inside edge spiral was equally as good.
E Rivera it was as no one was doing that at the time until Sasha.
@@jjh2456 It really started with Nicole Bobek. Her spirals inspired Michelle to improve hers.
Боже, вот это катание!!!! А какой красавец!!!?изумительно!
I'm glad they stopped doing those interviews in the kiss and cry. How awkward. "So, yeah, you just barely lost the gold medal. How do you feel?" Ugh.
Dawn Rhodes I know.... I have good news & bad news.... to bad Brian didn’t punch that stupid reporter
@@msmo2060 Totally agree with you but the real tragedy is "that stupid reporter" is none other than David Santee, a former competitive figure skater himself who was the silver medalist in the 1981 World Championships behind Scott Hamilton. Frankly, David should have known better.
npe1 really? Even more reason to call it stupid
David Santee was the WORST.
BTW where was Brian Boitano’s two footed jump that Dick Button said he did??
I liked both Brian's skating but I do think that in Calgary Boitano was head and shoulders better. I could never agree with the result being so close. I had Boitano ahead in both the short and free. His jumps were better, his spins were in a different class and I have to say Boitano's artistry was better. Boitano's short to 'Les Patineurs' was an artistic masterpiece.
BB program was more cohesive and fluid.
Yes it was, and a step up from John Curry 1976.
Boitano had the edge in both the execution and technical aspect, but both gave fantastic performances that night. Apparently there was supposed to be a fix for Orser to win, but one of the judges bailed on it after seeing how well Boitano skated. Regardless, the results were correct
If you read Wiki on this competition, the Canadian skating federation had a secret pact with the East Euro judges. It nearly worked.
The Russian judge later backed out on the deal and voted for Boitano, that made the difference in the 5-4 decision in his favor.
Шикарное скользение, высокие уверенные прыжки, артитизм, задорство и все это Брайн Орсер! Красавчик👍👏👋
Those jump spin things are flawless and mastery. I'll give him that
Брайн Орсер, круче, и программы интереснее! Легенда!!! дай бог ему по больше олимпийских учеников!!!!
David Santee, I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that you were once an interviewer. The good news is that you were only an interviewer for a really, really short time.
LOL. How did he ever get that job in the first place? Just awful.
Santee was the worst interviewer ever. I remember he interviewed a young Kristi Yamaguchi and asked her “So what was your key move in your estimation?” What kind of question is that?
Бесспорно, в прошлом ВЕЛИКИЙ ФИГУРИСТ!!!!!
Gosh, I love that opening move when the music halts and he nails that triple lutz. Gives me chills
Врайан Орсер великолепен!!!Такая лёгкость, устойчивость и потрясающий контакт с залом!! Восторг!!
Orser only did "1 minor mistake", which was not really a mistake (Dick Button): Stepped out 3Flip, downgraded 3Axel to a 2Axel, horrible spins, and almost seemed a two-footed 3Toe at the end. And Orser still wondered for many years how he lost to Boitano?
Incredible Mann Agreed. Sure could hear who Dick Buttons favored during Orsers program.
Orser with no 3/3, no second 3A and he didn't figure out how he lost to Boitano, especially when the technical mark was the deciding mark back then? Interesting.
On top of that, Boitano was 2nd in the compulsories and Orser was 3rd. Orser placed ahead of Boitano in the short, but that was only worth 20% of the final score, compared to the compulsories being worth 30%. So even though both skaters were/are beloved and delivered iconic performances, the rules of the time made it abundantly clear that Boitano *had* to be the winner.
Orser's team never took compulsories seriously enough, even after he lost the gold in 1984 over them. I love him and his skating, and I respect him tremendously as a coach, but I've never understood why he, by his own admission, never trained them harder when he knew they were his Achilles' heel.
See both Brians for the first time and figure out that Boitano is more superior in any way, though both are great
Что Бойтано,что Орсер, большие молодцы. И тренера молодцы. Очень понравились выступления обоих. Благодаря моему интересу к Алине, я увидела выступление Великих фигуристов прошлых лет.
ALINA !!! we love her so much!!
Olimpic Champion 💜🧡💛