People who think leaks are great apparently have either never had a bit of intellectual property or they don’t care about personal property. The issue of private and personal property is a huge deal and is rapidly loosing importance but it is very important.
@@JCMaldonado13 He has his days but I feel where you coming from cause I do find myself skipping their videos when it's just him unless he's talking about something I'm highly interested in.
I'm fine if its with leaks about _canceled_ games or prototypes like GIGA LEAK. Is it necessary to leak information about stuff that's planned to be shared anyway? Nah...
@@BerserkerKong02 not neccesarily. It's closer to "there's no need to release this garbage content," or "there's no way to package this to sell it, or it would cost too much to do so" and it becomes forgotten
True, I agree. I don’t understand why people like leaks, like you’re going to play the game anyway, why be so impatient to have someone leak it out for you?
@@onlylonk8082 Because I'm able to play it early with my hacked Switch And also, I'm bored and tired of waiting for games I actually care about. Been waiting years
@@ParisDorn159 Anyone is fine to have their opinion but I just disagree so much. Even things that I do like, it just ruins the inevitable happy surprise it would be. The 3D All stars leak made the actual product less exciting honestly. Smash character leaks literally ruin the surprise. Imagine if other games were leaked. Super Mario Odyssey info gets leaked before its release? Or how about Metroid Dread being leaked? The games are still awesome, but the excitement of their reveals is flattened because we now saw text in a youtube thumbnail telling us to expect it.
yeah since I get my main gaming news from twitter, I am glad that I am able to block words like "rumors" and "leaks" so it doesn't show up in my timeline. Doesn't help if it shows up on the trending page when something specific gets leaked, but muting words on twitter does help for the most part
The leaks that I hate are new game leaks. When Dread and Advanced Wars were shown, the feeling was amazing seeing something u did not anticipate. Warioware did not give me that feeling since Nintendo kinda leaked it.
Honestly I used to love leaks but recently I've realized that whenever I watch a direct I usually know the big titles that are being revealed already. If there is a direct this month I haven't looked at any leaks and im glad.
I love seeing leaks of games that have already come out. Seeing cool little scraps of development history, while it's legally sketchy, is great for understanding games, game development and ultimately preserving the art form. The giga-leak showing off all that Yoshi's Island and Mario 64 content, among other games, was an absolute delight to go through, especially learning about Luigi oh my god. But then, leaking upcoming games, even when the information is bunk, just ruins the fun. I feel like leaks have ended up actively harming public perception on a lot of series, Pokémon and Smash especially come to mind where anonymous "trusted sources" dropped all of this almost perfect sounding information, only for none of it to be true and the respective fanbases completely imploded into in-fighting and toxicity. It encourages people to not temper their expectations and then the fallout from the inevitable disappointment is always horrendous.
I would love to see nintneodlife be a leak-free channel. EVERY games media source will report on leaks and I think it would be refreshing to see a channel take the high road and decline reporting on that stuff.
Thank you for not releasing a swith pro rumor or potential leak "news". This is why i subscribe to you guys. Thank you to all the lovely people of Nintendo life
Im sure one of the reasons the Sword and Shield leak fine was so insanely high was so to discourage future leaks. People will PROBABLY think twice before breaking an NDA with Nintendo again.
Recommendation: if you’re going to report on a leak, don’t put the leak itself in the title or thumbnail so if people are interested they can click on, but if they don’t want spoilers they can go on their merry way
I would definetly press the button. Leaks are spoilers but with a higher chance to be false/misinterpreted. It sets expectations way too high, which at one point was discussed to possibly be the reason for major Nintendo Directs to be dead. Now we do know it wasn't the case but I could have totally understand if it was true, because it is very unrespectful towards the people behind the games and also the people who want to be geniunely suprised which I count myself into. It's fun to theorize who the next Smash Char is, but I'd rather make use of "patterns" to explain why Bandana Waddle Dee could be the next Char than using rumors and leaks. Look -> ○ A leaking Jon hole
I would stop leaks before a game came out, but for things like Concept Art or Pokemon space world demo after games release I'm fine with. I'm tired of new pokemon dexes being leaked constantly before release, I liked the slower reveals but now they reveal basically everything to get ahead of leaks.
RGT85 really bothered me last year, by claiming every day the super mario 3d allstars was going to he announced. And then when it finally was he had the nerve to say "I told you so"
On the grinch leak feels like that had as much impact it has was mainly due to the dry news period that happened at the time while word of mouth that the final characters was going to be ken and incineroar at the time before they were shown back after Isabelle was shown Then the grinch happened and all the weird stuff happened lol
Good leaks: Employees of Amazon releasing documents revealing that management knows that employees are forced to use bottles, plastic bags, and diapers to keep up with ridiculous productivity standards. Bad leaks: This videogame that is supposed to be revealed in two months exists. If we got more of the former in the gaming industry that'd be a good thing. The latter is mostly just, like, who even cares? I wouldn't even go so far as to call it bad if not for the fact that it can spoil the reveal for the developers actually working on the project.
For any NEO TWEWY fans out here. Remember your surprise when they just revealed the sequel freaking 14 YEARS after the original came out. Now imagine if that info was leaked. I rest my case.
Yeah, I would’ve been upset af if someone had taken that experience from me. Info about NEO TWEWY did end up getting leaked though, it just had nothing to do with the announcement. People are leaking story spoilers so reminder to be careful y’all
The guy who leaked the Genshin Impact stuff for Inazuma got fined 500k. Unless the leaks are from the developers, leaks from others can cause stuff much undue stress and disappoint. The guy in charge of the music for the game asked people not to spread it because it was unfinished.
I love speculation and seeing what 'insiders' whisper about. But I'd still hit the button. Ultimately leaks take away the surprise and generate an expectation which is often impossible to meet. Or worse: they generate toxicity against a product which hasn't even been revealed yet. People can still speculate and have fun guessing what's happening next without leaks.
One of the first videos I ever watched on this channel was that NX "Leak" Alex made a few years ago. That and the Mario shorts are why I'm still subscribed today.
I almost didn't click this video because I thought maybe it was about an actual recent leak so big that you wouldn't want it to be even hinted at in the title or thumbnail. I decided to check it out anyway and realized a discussion about leaks in general makes way more sense
I know this isn't gaming but every time I think of leaks I think about how the absolute entirety of The Rise of Skywalker was leaked before release. Literally everything lmao
The fact that leaks are anonymous shows contempt for both the company they are working for, and also for the fans. It's this weird passive aggressive tactic to ruin everyone's fun.
The high quality, consistent, unique videos you guys have been putting out since Jon joined have rocketed NintendoLife’s UA-cam channel to my favorite gaming channel to watch
Regarding leaks, I don’t like the intense leaks that completely ruin reveals. If they’re minor or deserving such as the Mario + rabbids reveal then yeah sure. But an outright, game reveal with mechanics, a title, background story details etc isn’t good. Especially when it ruins the reveal, though developers should be more open about leaks, and could potentially use leaks as a way of showing fans what could be coming. I wouldn’t be surprised if some game leaks were made public by the developers to gain interest or spread the rumours around and hype around. Regarding behind the scenes stuff, like concept art, sketches, beta designs etc. Developers should be more open about them things and when developers are open about them things it gives consumers much more value, at example would be the zelda creating a champion book or the xenoblade special edition art books. Even if it’s something small, when I bought sonic mania plus it came with a small 32 page Art Book, a small book in comparison to the other art books. Also, why should art books by solely special edition items. With so many people complaining about values of games, take Metroid dread as an example, people aren’t happy that they have to pay full a triple-A price for a 2D game. (I personally couldn’t care less, I preordered the collectors edition). A way to improve a games value would be to include all the behind the scenes and developer notes as part of the completion rewards. It would be a great reward for fans who have played and completed everything the game has to offer.
Yeah yeah corporation bad small studio good, we know, you can't think otherwise or you're a terrible person. But even when a big corporation suffers a leak, that affects their marketing cycle, which affects sales, which affects every single person involved in the development. If a game doesn't sell as well as expected because leaks soured the marketing cycle, those people's job security is affected.
This hits harder after seeing what the "Switch Pro" rumors have done to people's expectations. Ah well, what can you do. Leaks can be cool sometimes, but I've never been a big fan of them.
I'm scared the BotW sequel's name will get leaked, knowing that it's important enough to keep under wraps still, they are going to want to reveal it with fanfare. I don't want that ruined
I will forever be upset that the planned Zelda Netflix series as well as a few other projects were cancelled by Nintendo simply because they were leaked. And the worst part isn’t even really that it was cancelled, but it’s finding out that actually yes, that was REAL and I’m never going to get it.
I'd say The Last of Us 2 leaks did that. The game still may have sold well but I feel it taught a valuable lesson in false advertising and in how loyal fans will stay to a company.
I’d say leaks are fine for finished and cancelled games, but that’s it. Ongoing/unreleased projects? God no. It’s painful, especially as someone who gets a lot of genuine anxiety from spoilers. There’s a major difference from going into something blind vs not blind. One major thing with leaks is everything related to Genshin Impact. A massive majority of that community thinks leaks are okay, and will deliberately force them in your face wherever you go without concern for how you feel. It’s absolute hell trying to play that game and see anything related to it online. God I fucking hate people.
I think UA-cam leak culture is growing particularly toxic. The need to beat the algorithm by having every title contain the words "huge, mega, insane leak etc", coupled with rumour/leak videos being posted on a daily basis just leads to disapointment. Who else remembers right before the switch was announced, we were all being told it would have Mario and Zelda at launch, and have GameCube and n64 virtual console. Then shocker when those didn't happen it caused a downer on the announcement. It's a twofold issue also because so much time is spent talking about what we should/will have next. That less time is spent on appreciating what we do have. I wish UA-cam channels would focus more on game reviews and discussions about new/existing games. This causes a mindset of constantly feeling like the system isn't good enough.
Would be interesting to discuss the ethical dilemma as a media outlet because you do benefit from coverage of any leaks. Definitely not a dig at NL, but just the reality of the media landscape these days. It's a tricky area for sure!
See, EA were like that during one E3. They showed off a concept from Criterion (that unfortunately never saw a return), and an early form of the new Mirror's Edge. I'm pretty sure there was something else as well. Point is, doing that did work. Both of those two were hype reveals even in their early stages. Yes, it is unfortunate that Criterion's concept was never allowed to be fully developed, but the fact we knew about it can inspire other developers to try their hand at it.
I hate leaks because they're indistinguishable from rumors. I don't think they contribute anything and they just either spoil surprises or create false expectations, both are bad. The people who do this are not even getting paid, they're just doing it for attention.
I dunno, if the only interesting thing an announcement have is the fact that I didn't knew about it beforehand, then maybe it wasn't that good of an announcement to begin with. In the end, I think the uncontrollable hype generated by the industry is way worse. That and I'm not shedding a tear for a company that can't keep their information inside.
It's frustrating because I think most people who make or follow video game news basically agree that leaks are shitty and they hurt the industry. But it's kind of a vicious cycle because it seems like traffic spikes whenever a UA-camr or some site reports on it. So of course they're going to talk about it because their audience clearly wants to hear about leaks. It's one of those things where everyone involved is at least a little guilty, even the audience. The people clicking on articles and videos are driving up the demand for leaks so of course leakers are going to continue existing. And to be fair, I do see WHY leakers do this. It's a way to get clout and build an audience. It's really not THAT different from what any news source does, it's just a higher risk/higher reward proposition, especially when your sources aren't 100% reliable or the information is bad somehow. And ultimately it just hurts everyone's credibility. Look at how Switch Pro leaks have infuriated everyone, to the point that leakers like Nate the Hate had to issue official apologies and explanations. And most journalists are essentially forced to talk about it while rolling their eyes at the whole situation. It would be great if we could all just agree to not talk about leaks and not click on videos and articles with "leaks" in the title until it all goes away.
Whilst I don't care about leaks one way or the other because I always wait for things to actually release before giving them any attention I do think Nintendo are in the right to smack them down, especially if its from the makers of some poxy strategy guide that will have had to sign an NDA.
The great thing about WarioWare is 'insiders' never consider it big enough to leak for clicks/attention, so whenever a new one is announced I'm 100% hype because no one bothered saying anything.
All these leaks have taught me to be skeptical about every supposed leak and it won’t lead to a huge disappointment or lack of enthusiasm, depending on if the leak is fake or real.
Metroid Dread was leaked in 2019. Camelot working on a new Golden Sun was leaked. Same leak as a new Mario sports game was coming. Few weeks later Mario Golf was announced.
I think leaks are fine. I think rumors are fine. People confusing rumors as leaks is what’s damaging, and it happens WAY too often on the content creators part. Rumors and leaks should not be synonymous. They are completely different.
Well, the word “leak” gets more attention since it implies credibility, so content creators are gonna go for that word. And they justify it by saying “oh yeah this leaker has a great track record.” leakers only have a good reputations because NOBODY calls them out when their leaks turn out to be false!
Leaks about past/cancelled products are fine, but leaks about new games are more damaging then anything. Customers either end up pissed because the final product doesn't live up to their fantasy game, or ambivalent and then bitch about how the reveal wasn't exciting enough for them. The company that made the game must now handle any backlash that they received, and it just adds more stress to the whole game making process. I still remember what the head developer said about the Mario+Rabbids leak. He mentioned how the motivation of the team pretty much got shot because everyone was clowning on the leak. He was so excited about the concept and idea when he pitched it to Nintendo, and only for the customers to shoot him down. It ended up well long term, but this is the kind of stuff that can really mess up video games
With all these leaks, it's safe to say Mario is a terrible plumber and needs to find a new job.
Don't you hear? He's now a professional golfer!
@@GamerTheVoidGamingCentre No, he's a kart driver.
@@GamerTheVoidGamingCentre No he's a tennis player
@@compl3x560 no, he's a soccer player.
I thought he was a soccer player...
I'm ashamed to say I never realised how damaging leaks could be. Must be infuriating to work on a game for years only for it to be leaked
@Hunter Rayna jesus. That's mental
shut up. this is so stupud. you are being ignorant. leaks are great.
@@drakonis8138 🙄🙄🙄🤡
People who think leaks are great apparently have either never had a bit of intellectual property or they don’t care about personal property. The issue of private and personal property is a huge deal and is rapidly loosing importance but it is very important.
Well, you're not working on the game just for the reveal
Getting real bold with the titles, are we?
Dude I know I was expecting some kind of info, not a 24 min essay of the moral implications of leaks
Lol yeah... a lecture on leaks is not what I was expecting.
Weirdly enough not even clickbait...
@@corey2232 it’s not a fucking lecture. Are you a child?
You three have amazing chemistry. The golden age of Nintendo Life.
Honestly they’d be better off without Zion...
Absolutely. I came here for Jon when he moved from GX, but I’ve found I love all their content ☺️
@@JCMaldonado13
He has his days but I feel where you coming from cause I do find myself skipping their videos when it's just him unless he's talking about something I'm highly interested in.
@@JCMaldonado13 ZION IS THE BEST HOW DARE YOU
I'm fine if its with leaks about _canceled_ games or prototypes like GIGA LEAK.
Is it necessary to leak information about stuff that's planned to be shared anyway? Nah...
@@BerserkerKong02 not neccesarily. It's closer to "there's no need to release this garbage content," or "there's no way to package this to sell it, or it would cost too much to do so" and it becomes forgotten
"with corks!"
"THAT'S WORSE!"
man I love you guys, the chemistry is so good between you 3
yeah lol
Starting my wish list for the final Mii Costumes.
@@AnywhereMiami check your ears
I've always despised leaks. They just ruin hype and often hurt expectations.
True, I agree. I don’t understand why people like leaks, like you’re going to play the game anyway, why be so impatient to have someone leak it out for you?
Leaks are cool if the upcoming games are ones that I like
@@onlylonk8082 Because I'm able to play it early with my hacked Switch
And also, I'm bored and tired of waiting for games I actually care about. Been waiting years
@@ParisDorn159 Anyone is fine to have their opinion but I just disagree so much.
Even things that I do like, it just ruins the inevitable happy surprise it would be. The 3D All stars leak made the actual product less exciting honestly. Smash character leaks literally ruin the surprise. Imagine if other games were leaked. Super Mario Odyssey info gets leaked before its release? Or how about Metroid Dread being leaked?
The games are still awesome, but the excitement of their reveals is flattened because we now saw text in a youtube thumbnail telling us to expect it.
yeah since I get my main gaming news from twitter, I am glad that I am able to block words like "rumors" and "leaks" so it doesn't show up in my timeline. Doesn't help if it shows up on the trending page when something specific gets leaked, but muting words on twitter does help for the most part
wait I thought this was a video about leeks but it seems that was too farfetch'd.
boooooooooooo
Sir I appreciate the joke, now get out
@@binarekoharijanto4586 I'm probably the first person to see your comment
Hey, I liked it. :)
The leaks that I hate are new game leaks. When Dread and Advanced Wars were shown, the feeling was amazing seeing something u did not anticipate. Warioware did not give me that feeling since Nintendo kinda leaked it.
I would agree with this to some degree, but the truth is rabid Ninty fans LOVE when they are thrown a bone.
Honestly I used to love leaks but recently I've realized that whenever I watch a direct I usually know the big titles that are being revealed already. If there is a direct this month I haven't looked at any leaks and im glad.
I love seeing leaks of games that have already come out. Seeing cool little scraps of development history, while it's legally sketchy, is great for understanding games, game development and ultimately preserving the art form. The giga-leak showing off all that Yoshi's Island and Mario 64 content, among other games, was an absolute delight to go through, especially learning about Luigi oh my god.
But then, leaking upcoming games, even when the information is bunk, just ruins the fun. I feel like leaks have ended up actively harming public perception on a lot of series, Pokémon and Smash especially come to mind where anonymous "trusted sources" dropped all of this almost perfect sounding information, only for none of it to be true and the respective fanbases completely imploded into in-fighting and toxicity. It encourages people to not temper their expectations and then the fallout from the inevitable disappointment is always horrendous.
Well said
agree.
And somehow, nobody turns their anger on the fake leakers who manipulated people’s emotions and lied.
"hey, is that leaky Steve, our resident leaker"
Is that a Scott the woz reference?
@@blankname5799 *Scott's shocked face*
Is the thing supposed to be called cetrice that leak?
@@blankname5799 LETS CRITIQUE THAT LEAK
@@ymax561 i was right. It was a Scott the woz reference
So happy the Metroid Dread reveal didn't get spoiled for me
I heard about it but i was like come on. It would be like hearing about half life 3 pre alyx
I love these conversations! Having them on a podcast platform to listen on the go without having UA-cam eat away at my data plan would be golden.
Try youtube premium it's a little expensive but if you use youtube alot it's worth it imo. Then you can download and listen in the background
I would love to see nintneodlife be a leak-free channel. EVERY games media source will report on leaks and I think it would be refreshing to see a channel take the high road and decline reporting on that stuff.
Thank you for not releasing a swith pro rumor or potential leak "news". This is why i subscribe to you guys. Thank you to all the lovely people of Nintendo life
They already covered the legitimate leak of the 12.0 update, which was found to be compatibility with another system.
@@internetguy7319 12.0 Update for what?
I really don't get the point of leaks. All it does is ruin surprises and/or cause disappointment.
It's a selfish move by those who do leak.
The gigaleak with all the previously unseen beta content was incredible
@@incognitod8444 I thought it was obvious that I meant news leaks. But okay.
People are impatient af
Im sure one of the reasons the Sword and Shield leak fine was so insanely high was so to discourage future leaks. People will PROBABLY think twice before breaking an NDA with Nintendo again.
I will be honest, the leaks are partially the reason I didnt buy the game
if there is no mention of mario in here i'd be disappointed. plumber fixes leaks.
Recommendation: if you’re going to report on a leak, don’t put the leak itself in the title or thumbnail so if people are interested they can click on, but if they don’t want spoilers they can go on their merry way
Really wish you three would do this, but as a podcast. Love when y’all work together.
3 years later is time to stop calling it the "Grinch leak" and call it for what it actually was
*The "Grinch **_FAKE"_*
The Grinch Hoax
How the Grinch Hoaxed Smash Fans
Its abysmal that people thought the GRINCH was going to get in Smash Bros.
@@r4ls3i7 This is either the funniest joke in the comments or you completely missed the actual leak
Fun fact: did u know that zedd has a official collaboration with capcom to produce zedd x street fighter merch
zedd is still around? i listened to his music a lot in like 2012
@@VSaccount he’s on tour rn and had some tracks drop last year
Zedd? That’s pretty retro 😅 But cool for him.
Zedd is in this vid...
The Only leaks that should exist are if a game is a micro transaction infested game
You don't really believe that companies change a game's entire business model based on reaction to a leak, do you?
@@INRamos13 no it should be known if a game is extremely pay to win or is locked behind a paywall
I would definetly press the button. Leaks are spoilers but with a higher chance to be false/misinterpreted. It sets expectations way too high, which at one point was discussed to possibly be the reason for major Nintendo Directs to be dead. Now we do know it wasn't the case but I could have totally understand if it was true, because it is very unrespectful towards the people behind the games and also the people who want to be geniunely suprised which I count myself into.
It's fun to theorize who the next Smash Char is, but I'd rather make use of "patterns" to explain why Bandana Waddle Dee could be the next Char than using rumors and leaks.
Look -> ○
A leaking Jon hole
I would stop leaks before a game came out, but for things like Concept Art or Pokemon space world demo after games release I'm fine with. I'm tired of new pokemon dexes being leaked constantly before release, I liked the slower reveals but now they reveal basically everything to get ahead of leaks.
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You three actually need to start a podcast, I'd listen to that all day
Monkey Ball: Banana Mania wasn't leaked a few days before. It was leaked MONTHS ago.
RGT85 really bothered me last year, by claiming every day the super mario 3d allstars was going to he announced.
And then when it finally was he had the nerve to say "I told you so"
"Monkey Ball Banana Mania was leaked a couple of days before the Direct"
Me who saw the leaks from literally a year ago- |;‑)
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Tbf, Nintendo literally leaked the games themselves at the beginning of the day
@@thetrophysystem3697 Search "Nick Robinson Super Monkey Ball"
Leaks!!
Now…I’m going to take a wild guess here…and say this video is about leaks…not too sure though.
We need a plumber to fix them. Does Nintendo have any?
@@123phi123 I think two? I dunno.
Bro it was leaked like a month ago, most of us already knew
No it's actually about the collapse of Rome. Very interesting points they brought up
@@zeldadonkey1 I’m amazed at their history lessons.
DONSHIN THE GIANT 2 WAS LEAKED EVERYBODY!! EVERYONE PUT YOUR ISLAND COSTUMES NOW!!
And now Switch OLED is not Switch Pro like they "promised" aka it got leaked and everyone gets disappointed
On the grinch leak feels like that had as much impact it has was mainly due to the dry news period that happened at the time while word of mouth that the final characters was going to be ken and incineroar at the time before they were shown back after Isabelle was shown
Then the grinch happened and all the weird stuff happened lol
Good leaks: Employees of Amazon releasing documents revealing that management knows that employees are forced to use bottles, plastic bags, and diapers to keep up with ridiculous productivity standards.
Bad leaks: This videogame that is supposed to be revealed in two months exists.
If we got more of the former in the gaming industry that'd be a good thing. The latter is mostly just, like, who even cares? I wouldn't even go so far as to call it bad if not for the fact that it can spoil the reveal for the developers actually working on the project.
For any NEO TWEWY fans out here.
Remember your surprise when they just revealed the sequel freaking 14 YEARS after the original came out.
Now imagine if that info was leaked.
I rest my case.
Yeah, I would’ve been upset af if someone had taken that experience from me. Info about NEO TWEWY did end up getting leaked though, it just had nothing to do with the announcement. People are leaking story spoilers so reminder to be careful y’all
That title/thumbnail has a very threatening aura...
The new and better gamexplain. Love the discussion vids between you three.
Leaks just ruin reveals and sometimes the full game for the rest of us
The guy who leaked the Genshin Impact stuff for Inazuma got fined 500k. Unless the leaks are from the developers, leaks from others can cause stuff much undue stress and disappoint. The guy in charge of the music for the game asked people not to spread it because it was unfinished.
Congratulations on 600k lads. Only up
The worst leak was Subspace Emissary. We lost any future chance of that returning in another game that's directed by Sakurai
I'm glad I didn't have access to the internet back then. That was the biggest surprise for me when I bought Brawl when it released.
I TOLD THAT SKUNK IS A JERK!
You guys have such great chemistry together, it's actually quite amazing. Sounds like you've been best friends for 30 years or more!
The Switch Pro leaks ruined the reveal of the OLED Switch.
I love speculation and seeing what 'insiders' whisper about. But I'd still hit the button. Ultimately leaks take away the surprise and generate an expectation which is often impossible to meet. Or worse: they generate toxicity against a product which hasn't even been revealed yet.
People can still speculate and have fun guessing what's happening next without leaks.
One of the first videos I ever watched on this channel was that NX "Leak" Alex made a few years ago. That and the Mario shorts are why I'm still subscribed today.
I almost didn't click this video because I thought maybe it was about an actual recent leak so big that you wouldn't want it to be even hinted at in the title or thumbnail. I decided to check it out anyway and realized a discussion about leaks in general makes way more sense
I know this isn't gaming but every time I think of leaks I think about how the absolute entirety of The Rise of Skywalker was leaked before release. Literally everything lmao
Leek is a good vegetable.
Beet also good!
Nice lol
@@UPHENOS beet me to it.
The grinch leak was an untold month of absolute insanity that I will never forget. Good God.
The fact that leaks are anonymous shows contempt for both the company they are working for, and also for the fans. It's this weird passive aggressive tactic to ruin everyone's fun.
My country’s government collapsed because of the Star Fox: Grand Prix leak I’ll have you know!
Noooo I wanna know who won in the fight between Jon and Alex on super smash bros lmao
The high quality, consistent, unique videos you guys have been putting out since Jon joined have rocketed NintendoLife’s UA-cam channel to my favorite gaming channel to watch
Regarding leaks, I don’t like the intense leaks that completely ruin reveals. If they’re minor or deserving such as the Mario + rabbids reveal then yeah sure. But an outright, game reveal with mechanics, a title, background story details etc isn’t good. Especially when it ruins the reveal, though developers should be more open about leaks, and could potentially use leaks as a way of showing fans what could be coming. I wouldn’t be surprised if some game leaks were made public by the developers to gain interest or spread the rumours around and hype around.
Regarding behind the scenes stuff, like concept art, sketches, beta designs etc. Developers should be more open about them things and when developers are open about them things it gives consumers much more value, at example would be the zelda creating a champion book or the xenoblade special edition art books. Even if it’s something small, when I bought sonic mania plus it came with a small 32 page Art Book, a small book in comparison to the other art books. Also, why should art books by solely special edition items. With so many people complaining about values of games, take Metroid dread as an example, people aren’t happy that they have to pay full a triple-A price for a 2D game. (I personally couldn’t care less, I preordered the collectors edition). A way to improve a games value would be to include all the behind the scenes and developer notes as part of the completion rewards. It would be a great reward for fans who have played and completed everything the game has to offer.
Yeah yeah corporation bad small studio good, we know, you can't think otherwise or you're a terrible person. But even when a big corporation suffers a leak, that affects their marketing cycle, which affects sales, which affects every single person involved in the development. If a game doesn't sell as well as expected because leaks soured the marketing cycle, those people's job security is affected.
The idea that we should just hate big corporations for the hell of it is stupid
"do bees have lips?" triggered my fight or flight
The "big red button" question depends on if it would also delete rumours, as rumours keep gaming news interesting
This is off topic but
Congratulations on hitting 600k subscribers
This hits harder after seeing what the "Switch Pro" rumors have done to people's expectations. Ah well, what can you do. Leaks can be cool sometimes, but I've never been a big fan of them.
I'm scared the BotW sequel's name will get leaked, knowing that it's important enough to keep under wraps still, they are going to want to reveal it with fanfare. I don't want that ruined
considering Nintendo if that happened they’d just cancel BOTW2
@@jess648 or quietly delay everything for a rename
I will forever be upset that the planned Zelda Netflix series as well as a few other projects were cancelled by Nintendo simply because they were leaked. And the worst part isn’t even really that it was cancelled, but it’s finding out that actually yes, that was REAL and I’m never going to get it.
Don't know much about the history but have we ever actually got something good out of leaks?? I mean something positive for the industry.
I'd say The Last of Us 2 leaks did that. The game still may have sold well but I feel it taught a valuable lesson in false advertising and in how loyal fans will stay to a company.
The thumbnail reminds me of Sonic Forces with zones like Green Hill Green Hill.
I’d say leaks are fine for finished and cancelled games, but that’s it. Ongoing/unreleased projects? God no. It’s painful, especially as someone who gets a lot of genuine anxiety from spoilers. There’s a major difference from going into something blind vs not blind. One major thing with leaks is everything related to Genshin Impact. A massive majority of that community thinks leaks are okay, and will deliberately force them in your face wherever you go without concern for how you feel. It’s absolute hell trying to play that game and see anything related to it online. God I fucking hate people.
I think UA-cam leak culture is growing particularly toxic. The need to beat the algorithm by having every title contain the words "huge, mega, insane leak etc", coupled with rumour/leak videos being posted on a daily basis just leads to disapointment. Who else remembers right before the switch was announced, we were all being told it would have Mario and Zelda at launch, and have GameCube and n64 virtual console. Then shocker when those didn't happen it caused a downer on the announcement.
It's a twofold issue also because so much time is spent talking about what we should/will have next. That less time is spent on appreciating what we do have. I wish UA-cam channels would focus more on game reviews and discussions about new/existing games. This causes a mindset of constantly feeling like the system isn't good enough.
We were just talking about this in the Kazuya live-chat. If you saw and made this video in response that’s really cool. If so, cheers!
NINTENDO! Take notes, Mario RPG and the Legend of the seven stars switch sequel/remake isn’t going to code itself!
It's very difficult for me to feel sympathetic for Nintendo as a company, but I will say that yes, leaking personal information is a HUGE no-no.
I leaked a little bit when I saw this video. Thank you, A, J and Z.
“Zed”
I know this is off topic but my man Jon gave Alex a homie stock, what a hero
Would be interesting to discuss the ethical dilemma as a media outlet because you do benefit from coverage of any leaks. Definitely not a dig at NL, but just the reality of the media landscape these days. It's a tricky area for sure!
Leaks before reveals are like finding out what your Christmas present is before Christmas morning.
But they are definitely good for content creators.
See, EA were like that during one E3. They showed off a concept from Criterion (that unfortunately never saw a return), and an early form of the new Mirror's Edge. I'm pretty sure there was something else as well. Point is, doing that did work. Both of those two were hype reveals even in their early stages. Yes, it is unfortunate that Criterion's concept was never allowed to be fully developed, but the fact we knew about it can inspire other developers to try their hand at it.
The best kind of leaks are the ones that uncover lost old data like beta versions and art of old games
I hate leaks because they're indistinguishable from rumors. I don't think they contribute anything and they just either spoil surprises or create false expectations, both are bad. The people who do this are not even getting paid, they're just doing it for attention.
Are we including leaks that concern the workplace environment behind a game? Because leaks can be the only easy that info gets out there.
I dunno, if the only interesting thing an announcement have is the fact that I didn't knew about it beforehand, then maybe it wasn't that good of an announcement to begin with. In the end, I think the uncontrollable hype generated by the industry is way worse. That and I'm not shedding a tear for a company that can't keep their information inside.
It's frustrating because I think most people who make or follow video game news basically agree that leaks are shitty and they hurt the industry. But it's kind of a vicious cycle because it seems like traffic spikes whenever a UA-camr or some site reports on it. So of course they're going to talk about it because their audience clearly wants to hear about leaks. It's one of those things where everyone involved is at least a little guilty, even the audience. The people clicking on articles and videos are driving up the demand for leaks so of course leakers are going to continue existing.
And to be fair, I do see WHY leakers do this. It's a way to get clout and build an audience. It's really not THAT different from what any news source does, it's just a higher risk/higher reward proposition, especially when your sources aren't 100% reliable or the information is bad somehow.
And ultimately it just hurts everyone's credibility. Look at how Switch Pro leaks have infuriated everyone, to the point that leakers like Nate the Hate had to issue official apologies and explanations. And most journalists are essentially forced to talk about it while rolling their eyes at the whole situation.
It would be great if we could all just agree to not talk about leaks and not click on videos and articles with "leaks" in the title until it all goes away.
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I’d push the button. Yeah not all leaks are necessarily bad but too many are.
Whilst I don't care about leaks one way or the other because I always wait for things to actually release before giving them any attention I do think Nintendo are in the right to smack them down, especially if its from the makers of some poxy strategy guide that will have had to sign an NDA.
Was there a big leak I missed or something?
When it comes to leaks I like them. Congrats on 600k btw!
The great thing about WarioWare is 'insiders' never consider it big enough to leak for clicks/attention, so whenever a new one is announced I'm 100% hype because no one bothered saying anything.
That is the best title for a video you ever comeup whit
All these leaks have taught me to be skeptical about every supposed leak and it won’t lead to a huge disappointment or lack of enthusiasm, depending on if the leak is fake or real.
I thought you guys were going to talk about the Gigaleak from last year...
I like how that smash clip cut off before Jon was obliterated
I zoned out and just focused on Alex getting his ass whooped by Jon 😂
Leaks kinda spoiled e3 for me.
I was waiting for multiple zelda releases and a new Donkey Kong game, neither of which came.
I would definitely press the button even if I do get super excited at times
I hate leeks.
I had to grow and then eat them in 5th grade.
raw??
if not, leeks are tasty af try them in a stew
I thought this video was about Farfetched and was disappointed.
Metroid Dread was leaked in 2019.
Camelot working on a new Golden Sun was leaked. Same leak as a new Mario sports game was coming. Few weeks later Mario Golf was announced.
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I think leaks are fine. I think rumors are fine.
People confusing rumors as leaks is what’s damaging, and it happens WAY too often on the content creators part. Rumors and leaks should not be synonymous. They are completely different.
Well, the word “leak” gets more attention since it implies credibility, so content creators are gonna go for that word. And they justify it by saying “oh yeah this leaker has a great track record.”
leakers only have a good reputations because NOBODY calls them out when their leaks turn out to be false!
@@spoon7053 Personally I’m over all of it honestly. I don’t need info ahead of time. I’ll wait until there’s official word.
Leaks about past/cancelled products are fine, but leaks about new games are more damaging then anything. Customers either end up pissed because the final product doesn't live up to their fantasy game, or ambivalent and then bitch about how the reveal wasn't exciting enough for them. The company that made the game must now handle any backlash that they received, and it just adds more stress to the whole game making process. I still remember what the head developer said about the Mario+Rabbids leak. He mentioned how the motivation of the team pretty much got shot because everyone was clowning on the leak. He was so excited about the concept and idea when he pitched it to Nintendo, and only for the customers to shoot him down. It ended up well long term, but this is the kind of stuff that can really mess up video games
i have a slow internet, what's the leak all about? THANKS!