Definitely don't get rid of the private servers that's what gives people a chance to race with these big names and get a chance to possibly get a better ride I don't know that would be a bad idea I feel
Jayce you need to get Tomac back on after he retires so he can speak freely. He was clear as day holding back answers and being very thoughtful. Cheers
Partly true. However, ET will be the first to admit, he is not comfortable in front of any mic. I don't know that we are going to hear much from him in his retirement years...& I'm good with that. They can't all be Adam Cianciarulo gregarious extraverts... quick whitted & super spontaneous.
Hopefully Eli will enjoy this year enough he will race motocross ext year! He has said this is probably it for a full season of Supercross but he is a moto cross guy and if he is going to race 1 moto cross is the one. But I love motocross season especially when Eli is racing. Honestly 2023 he was hurt A d it was a weak season that Jet went undefeated.I did not watch I had no desire to watch.
I like how eli is so humble he wont event comment back to you about the slower riders on the track being a problem. he knows there just trying to make a living.
Also having privateers out there provides a marker for what IS badass on a dirt bike and keeps the top 10, top 15 working for it. Lance Stroll in F1 is a great example of locking out the lineup creates issues and political nonsense.
He just said one of the top 5 most ridiculous things I've heard in 60 years of supporting MX. How bought just the top twenty Vlogs. Yeah, I like that idea. I just unsubscribed Gypsy Tales.
@@peaceprayer595 Smart things sound dumb to stupid people. It's beyond stupid to have half the gate populated by guys who effectively aren't anything more than an obstacle for the top guys. It makes the racing worse and introduces unnecessary risk trying to navigate slower riders. There is nothing gained by having slower riders out on the track with the best in the world.
@alondite215 Exactly. Also they never said get rid of the lower guys, just move them to another type of series. They could race before the 250 and 450 mains. Basically a more advanced LCQ.
They’ll never go back but would be awesome to allow 250 2T in 250 class & 450 class be 300cc+. SX Futures be regional with stock bikes, 250 class be limited (publicly available parts only) & 450 class be on open/works class
You 2 stroke dorks need to stop already the sport only raced liquid cooled 2 strokes from 85-86 to 97-06. we have been predominantly 4 strokes for the majority of the sport. It started as 4 strokes only went to 2 when they proved to be the easiest power.
The modern 2 stroke era was less than 20 years guys time to let it go. It wasn’t the pinnacle of the sport like you remember a majority of the RC,JS and CR battles were actually on 4 strokes. The year James was stuck on a KX250 while everyone else was on 450s ended them.
Bob Hannah said in the 80's that the cream would rise to the top works bikes or not. Yamaha went production because they couldn't afford works bikes, that was the beginning of the end.
Not making every part on the bike out of magnesium and titanium would have really saved them a lot of money. It seems like they spent as much money as they possibly could on some of those bikes.
It wouldn't affect him at all because he would have been a factory rider from day 1. How is it gatekeeping? It doesn't restrict access to anyone who is good enough to be competitive at the top level.
i wonder how many people prefer to watch thses clips in smaller segments like this?i certainly do.i cant dedicate hours of time to any looooonng interview.
I like both, long while im doing stuff,walking,gaming going shopping, etc ,kinda like an audio book, I guess shorter while on the phone scrolling around.
How so? People could still try and qualify. But, if you're not fast enough for the top 10, you shouldn't be on the track just to get lapped. I never have understood why our sport allows half the field in the main event that clearly have no business being there.
@@user-o8c6q That guy in 22nd in a main is a certified shredder. Dont down play the skill of those riders. Anyone who can make a night show let alone a Main is rocket when you are not comparing to to the top guys
Ironically, when the production rule was implemented in 1986 it drove the price of production bikes up almost 20%. Before the arms race was limited to the supercross and Motocross paddock. With the production rule the arms race extended to the showroom
I am gonna be the one to say it. Let them do whatever they want but also open up the two strokes. A 450 twostroke is cheaper than a 450 four stroke, by a lot and it is absolutely up to play in terms of performance. That way the privateers get to have it easier and the pros can go crazy.
2 strokes will never be competitive with 450s, especially factory and definitely if there were no production rules. 2 strokes rule hard Enduro, but that's about it.
@infidelmat nonsense. All the tests of those brc etc 500s say that those 500s are probably even faster than 450s. In Europe in many national championships they changed it to same displacement racing and it works. Especially here in Germany the championship that hunter Lawrence started his career in now has 250 vs 250 and it works great.
I personally think every one on the line should have an even bike. The top professional baseball players don’t get to load bats, why should the top Mx guys get loaded bikes?
Because they all have loaded bikes tailored to their preferences and talents make them more comfortable on the bike so it actually be safer on top of getting better racing
The pro's are riding much harder than what you or I would, wouldn't it make sense to have a better bike? Also, if the pro's were able to develop more parts, they would eventually flow down to the bikes you and i can purchase. how can you compare the physicality between baseball and SX its not even close.
To push development would be my guess, just like in F1 as an example, stuff from f1 used in other llaces cos off it. Other reasons also, I guess, but the first one that comes to mind.
@@pwnnr13there’s pros and cons to that though. Yes it’s awesome and pushes development, but then you get a team(s) that just dominate while others are struggling to catch up like in f1. Can make the racing potentially more boring.
What they need to do for supercross is get rid of one of the 250 practices one of the 450 practices and maybe even only have one qualifier drop the 450 lcq and maybe even the 250 lcq and in that time run a privateers heat and a privateers main and they have a whole separate point system away from the pros and if they get enough points and run quick enough times that's how they become a pro,,, also if you get lapped you get pulled from the track
250 stock off the showroom floor, 450 stock off the showroom floor, remove the LCQ for time, and 450 "promod" with no build rules. 250's and 450's still have privateers and some factory teams while the cream of the crop move to "promod". Injuries in the promod get replaced by the top guy points wise in the 450 class.
This would be great. I remember the mad trickery of the factory works bikes when I was a kid. Hannah's RC 250 STILL looks like it could be competitive today. I remember being so jealous of Lechien's RC 125. All that custom aluminum built specifically for him was the first MX bike to sport a completely flat layout in the rider's cockpit area and is still used on current bikes. The Team Honda riders knew what they liked, and it's carried over to today.
Why not do two 450 races per event make one an production class so you have one race on production bike and one open class were you have bikes with all the goodies
So basically you want only the best and the most amount money possible in the sport. Yeah, because the fans that actually have to pay for tickets and products love getting priced out not being able to afford anything. Get the heck out of here! Love watching LCQ's for the 4 guys trying there asses all year to make mains and now the end of year races. I actually get a little of the whole slower guys safety stuff, but if there not whiling to have a non-top guys race then no. I do think there should always be some way for a privateer to make it in, Even it looks a little different then fine.
The issue is that there aren’t enough factory rides to fill a gate in an “open” class. You’ve got guys like hill finishing in front of “factory” guys but he’s still considered a privateer. Tedder may be well off but they still don’t have the capabilities of a true factory effort. Maybe make a 250, 450, and then add an open class.
Suzuki was a 2 billion dollar company. The government spending to much is what caused the GFC not Suzuki road racing. Spending 20mil a year on racing didn't bankrupt anyone. The good ol blame game. Yamaha and Honda couldn't win so they cried. We came out in 09 on stock bikes thanks to new rules and still kicked everyone's ass. Budgets nothing to do with it.
Make a change with making it to the main. You have to be within 10sec of the number 1 qualifier to make it to the main. There doesn’t need to be a set number of riders per race. If only 25 guys make it to the main then that’s who races if 40 guys make it next time good. It will always vary.
Sounds like *Eli* needs to pull an *RV* & if this is his retirement year switch places with *Prado* & go race some *MXGP's* where they don't have the production rule. *(RC* also wishes he would have gave the *GP's* a shot) beyond *MXON*
Makes me think how many great seasons have we lost due to teams having to learn a new bike that's forced on them? Last year with Sexton, seemingly this year with Jett? Talking about Privateers, how much of a difference would it really make in the 450 class? we aren't seeing Privateers, unless you count Kenny, consistently finishing in the top 5, they are already so far behind a trick frame isn't going to make a difference. Sexton last year may be a bad example being new to the team, but the bike was new to them as well
How come people can’t wrap their minds around this. There is no reason for 60 privateers showing up chewing up the track with no chance of making money or making the field. Set the field at fixed number of riders all making money one qualifying session and go race. Privateers can race another series and earn their way in. Just like every other race series.
For safety reasons, the tough blocks should have water bags in the bottom of them.And not covered with the plastic bag.They should be a foam that just disintegrates when you hit it and comes apart
Why can’t we just be happy with the way the sport is now. You hear the older generations talk about how much better it was back in the day. It’s not going to be F1 or moto Gp. And if it does get there, it will be unobtainable to the Carmichael’s, McGraths, Villopoto’s, Jett Lawrence’s. It will be a gate full of the fastest rich kids.
The idea of in-ear comms in theory sounds good. Depending on the rider, auditory may be upsetting or distracting when concentrating in techy sections. I wonder if doing lighting on the front fender or bar pad would be a better option. We already have leader lights and GET products from commercial and personal technology
@GYPSYTALES fair, i wonder how much f1 racers listen for the cars around them compared to moto. Countering this note is the fact flagging audio triggers can probably be short duration and just repeated increments while in the zone.
Here's the change I'd like to see & that's to allow 250 2-STROKES to race the 250 4-STROKES. They race differently & would use different lines, increasing the racing quality. Even if they have to use rules, restrictions are fine because the 2-STROKE is so much cheaper than a 4-STROKE, especially to race & maintain, which would help the privateers & smaller teams. But I also think this is why so few normiesvride compare to the late 80s throught the erly 2000s. Modern 4-STROKES are just so expensive [The ONLY problem is I think ONLY Yamaha & the Austrian brands make a 250 2-STROKE]
The way things are each year the manufacture tries to get the most competitive bike and developed for top racing and we the public have that advantage.
Eli strikes me as someone who grew up rich,was homeschooled and got very little exposure to the outside world aside from when he was going to races. This comment has nothing to do with the fact he worked his ass off to get to where he is. He just always seems socially detached from his surroundings.
Maybe bring back hay bales to replace tuff blocks. Gotta be a little bit softer landing More whoop sections but not as tall would be better Also more sand or mud sections instead of just 1
Moto GP is Prototype racing for a reason . They push the boundaries of what possible for the vehicles and riders. The point is to test crazy tech and then have it trickle down to other bikes later. 250 should be production but 450 should be the equivalent to Moto GP prototypes
How about letting each guy qualify without any other riders around them . Give each guy a couple minutes with a clear track because other riders get in the way and screw up times.
@@Upthebroncos310 would be cool to have a 2.5 lap superpole only on race day... Maybe 3.5 and average two best laps. but yeah, agree, superpole would be best. how we do it now is just odd af really
Smaller teams and privateers would literally be run out of the sport if the factory teams had that kind of money. You love the sport bud why would you want to push the little guy out.
I don't think in-ear communication solves the flag issue. A rider can easily say "I didn't hear it. It malfunctioned". Or "I didn't hear it, Barcia was next to me" 😁
I think a big issue with our series is the financial gap between the factory teams and the privateer teams. If there was a budget for our sport it would help the privateer teams stay competitive with the factory teams from a bike and rider perspective. I also wish teams got paid out at the end of the year for their performance. Like a separate team championship from the rider championship. That way the privateer teams feel they are competing for something and can invest more into their bikes and their riders with the money they win racing. I feel this is a good place to start to keep privateers in the sport. Get these guys on smaller teams making money and out of their own vans trying to make it work on their own.
Nah, I agree. It doesn't really do us any good when they have a "production" bike, and then drop $250k worth of trick parts onto the platform. The MXGPs aren't any less popular or fun to watch because they are free-reign. Let the platforms be made for each rider. Do a cap on the costs, and go fuckin' wild. We want to see the athletes, not the bikes, and the bikes should put them in the best position possible. Also...the Forkner comment was out of pocket lmao
Make all parts available. Or make the specs available. Tomac wants a modded frame, make the info available so privateers can copy it…. Nowadays that would be so easy. Ported head or different valve timing…. Do it! Just make the specs available so others can copy it. If a privateer wants to beef up his frame, let him do it! Just make it public!
If were saying anything goes then let the limiting factor be CC's alone! A privateer operation can absolutely build a 450 cc 2 stroke bike and be competitive with a talented rider.
If they keep privateers in 450s, make it that the top 15 guys don't have to participate in every session. Remove a practice other two. Both free and timed. Let the privateers do an lcq for the last five spots. Definitely get rid of production rule for 450, maybe tighten it up a little for 250s.
That kinda sucks for the consumer not to mention how insane the spending would go its basically the last affordable motorsport out there and you wanna drop the privateers? Geezuse goodbye motocross
The reason that AMA is better than the European championship is the Priveteers... Watch guys like Masterpool, Phil Nicoleti getting top 10 scores is amazing. Plus, I don't believe so much on the works bikes. American riders won the mxon more than any other country with stock frames.
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Definitely don't get rid of the private servers that's what gives people a chance to race with these big names and get a chance to possibly get a better ride I don't know that would be a bad idea I feel
Jayce you need to get Tomac back on after he retires so he can speak freely. He was clear as day holding back answers and being very thoughtful. Cheers
Partly true. However, ET will be the first to admit, he is not comfortable in front of any mic. I don't know that we are going to hear much from him in his retirement years...& I'm good with that. They can't all be Adam Cianciarulo gregarious extraverts... quick whitted & super spontaneous.
Hopefully Eli will enjoy this year enough he will race motocross ext year! He has said this is probably it for a full season of Supercross but he is a moto cross guy and if he is going to race 1 moto cross is the one. But I love motocross season especially when Eli is racing. Honestly 2023 he was hurt A d it was a weak season that Jet went undefeated.I did not watch I had no desire to watch.
I'm surprised he said as much as he did say especially about bike set up. You could see he was holding back a bit. Don't blame him for that though
Hopefully that's not for another couple years hopefully he comes back in 26
Is it just me ,or is Eli holding back ,he looks like he wants to say more
He chooses his responses carefully. He’s not stupid. We’re lucky he is doing these interviews at all.
He don't get a chance jase doesn't stop interrupting him! Guys a nob!
@@RCH-u9x Eli kept talking back over him though when he tried lol
So with all of the contracts and NDA’s signed you’re kinda stuck and can’t say much. I’m not lying
I like how eli is so humble he wont event comment back to you about the slower riders on the track being a problem. he knows there just trying to make a living.
See with that mindset of no privateers, we wouldn't have someone like Weston Peick, Heath Voss. Those guys killed it.
Also having privateers out there provides a marker for what IS badass on a dirt bike and keeps the top 10, top 15 working for it.
Lance Stroll in F1 is a great example of locking out the lineup creates issues and political nonsense.
No no no he said he wants the top 20 dudes all the those dudes are top 20 he’s saying no privateers but he just means not the b and c practice guys
He just said one of the top 5 most ridiculous things I've heard in 60 years of supporting MX. How bought just the top twenty Vlogs. Yeah, I like that idea. I just unsubscribed Gypsy Tales.
@@peaceprayer595 Smart things sound dumb to stupid people. It's beyond stupid to have half the gate populated by guys who effectively aren't anything more than an obstacle for the top guys. It makes the racing worse and introduces unnecessary risk trying to navigate slower riders. There is nothing gained by having slower riders out on the track with the best in the world.
@alondite215 Exactly. Also they never said get rid of the lower guys, just move them to another type of series. They could race before the 250 and 450 mains. Basically a more advanced LCQ.
Last time I checked Justin Hill technically a privateer team and just beat half the factory guys...
I would like to see one race a year with stock showroom bikes for everybody.
They do that in arenacross
Or at each series you have to race a 2 stroke at least once at which ever race you choose.
I say go back to 2 strokes, 300 cc main class, 150 cc for the lights class but no restrictions like the good ole days.
They’ll never go back but would be awesome to allow 250 2T in 250 class & 450 class be 300cc+. SX Futures be regional with stock bikes, 250 class be limited (publicly available parts only) & 450 class be on open/works class
You 2 stroke dorks need to stop already the sport only raced liquid cooled 2 strokes from 85-86 to 97-06. we have been predominantly 4 strokes for the majority of the sport. It started as 4 strokes only went to 2 when they proved to be the easiest power.
The modern 2 stroke era was less than 20 years guys time to let it go. It wasn’t the pinnacle of the sport like you remember a majority of the RC,JS and CR battles were actually on 4 strokes. The year James was stuck on a KX250 while everyone else was on 450s ended them.
I like your idea. Those are perfect sizes for the classes. Two strokes are way more exciting to me.
Move on Grandpa
Bob Hannah said in the 80's that the cream would rise to the top works bikes or not. Yamaha went production because they couldn't afford works bikes, that was the beginning of the end.
Not making every part on the bike out of magnesium and titanium would have really saved them a lot of money. It seems like they spent as much money as they possibly could on some of those bikes.
Without the production rule, Honda would have been 1, 2, 3 in every race.
@@JWPshenigans honda does have the deepest pockets
Sounds like gatekeeping. If he was just starting his career he wouldnt want this.
The field has 40 riders. Those effected would be the first 10 maybe. Teams no this stuff, people get rated on a curve in motocross.
It wouldn't affect him at all because he would have been a factory rider from day 1. How is it gatekeeping? It doesn't restrict access to anyone who is good enough to be competitive at the top level.
i wonder how many people prefer to watch thses clips in smaller segments like this?i certainly do.i cant dedicate hours of time to any looooonng interview.
If you listened instead of watching you'd have no issues with the time.
You realize you can just listen to the long interview in segments? Crazy concept
I like both, long while im doing stuff,walking,gaming going shopping, etc ,kinda like an audio book, I guess shorter while on the phone scrolling around.
A working man that throws on 1 ear bud...
@@tankeater you get it..
Once lapped, you have to pull off the track in that position, could really shake things up and level the field in races where pros crash.
Remember, no privateers, no pros.
How so? People could still try and qualify. But, if you're not fast enough for the top 10, you shouldn't be on the track just to get lapped. I never have understood why our sport allows half the field in the main event that clearly have no business being there.
Tell that to all the sports that have a field full of pros and no privateers.
@@user-o8c6q That guy in 22nd in a main is a certified shredder. Dont down play the skill of those riders. Anyone who can make a night show let alone a Main is rocket when you are not comparing to to the top guys
Tell that to MXGP...
That s the beauty. Anyone can join and race if they have the spead.
I love privateers! It gives the opportunity for some to land good contracts with teams if they're good enough.
Ironically, when the production rule was implemented in 1986 it drove the price of production bikes up almost 20%. Before the arms race was limited to the supercross and Motocross paddock. With the production rule the arms race extended to the showroom
Once you get lapped by the leader... Off the track u go
I am gonna be the one to say it. Let them do whatever they want but also open up the two strokes. A 450 twostroke is cheaper than a 450 four stroke, by a lot and it is absolutely up to play in terms of performance. That way the privateers get to have it easier and the pros can go crazy.
Racing is all about selling bikes to the masses..thats where the racing revenue comes from.
@mrabrasive51 so what?
@@petergriffin4629 so,who is gonna manufacture these 500 2 strokes?
2 strokes will never be competitive with 450s, especially factory and definitely if there were no production rules. 2 strokes rule hard Enduro, but that's about it.
@infidelmat nonsense. All the tests of those brc etc 500s say that those 500s are probably even faster than 450s. In Europe in many national championships they changed it to same displacement racing and it works. Especially here in Germany the championship that hunter Lawrence started his career in now has 250 vs 250 and it works great.
I personally think every one on the line should have an even bike. The top professional baseball players don’t get to load bats, why should the top Mx guys get loaded bikes?
Because they all have loaded bikes tailored to their preferences and talents make them more comfortable on the bike so it actually be safer on top of getting better racing
The pro's are riding much harder than what you or I would, wouldn't it make sense to have a better bike? Also, if the pro's were able to develop more parts, they would eventually flow down to the bikes you and i can purchase. how can you compare the physicality between baseball and SX its not even close.
To push development would be my guess, just like in F1 as an example, stuff from f1 used in other llaces cos off it. Other reasons also, I guess, but the first one that comes to mind.
@@pwnnr13there’s pros and cons to that though. Yes it’s awesome and pushes development, but then you get a team(s) that just dominate while others are struggling to catch up like in f1. Can make the racing potentially more boring.
@@spencethegreat38 yep because there’s a rich teams and there’s poor teams
I want the action cameras back!!!! That was the best angle to watch the battles
Herlings had no issues when he came over to race iron man on a borrowed bike...
Back in the day it was 125, 250 and 500’s and three classes worked just fine. Make the 3rd class an Open Class, run what you brung
EXACTLY!!! 2 strokes, 4 strokes E bikes
@ definitely No EBikes! Factory one off bikes 2 or 4 stroke braaap
I was fortunate to see all three classes raced,it was a great era in racing!
@ 80’s and 90’s were the best years. Gatorback nationals with 40 500’s pinned at the gate 😁😁😁😁
Wow, this interview with Eli is one of the best shows I've ever seen. THANK YOU!
The clear answer is to have a privateer production class which would be super popular and an elite works class
Dude doesn't even let Tomac talk
Jase always monopolizes interviews. Dude loves the sound of his own voice
@@Dashriprock4 why are either of you here go moan else where 🤦♂️
@@nathanswain2754 because every now and then when he lets his subjects actually speak they say something good. I'm here for the nuggets.
it would be ok if the title wasnt "TOMAC DEMANDS CHANGE" and this segment is 85% jase? meh. just say 'supercross needs change'... 'tomac agrees' lol
He ALWAYS does that.
Tomac out here looking like he joined team fried
Looks baked
What they need to do for supercross is get rid of one of the 250 practices one of the 450 practices and maybe even only have one qualifier drop the 450 lcq and maybe even the 250 lcq and in that time run a privateers heat and a privateers main and they have a whole separate point system away from the pros and if they get enough points and run quick enough times that's how they become a pro,,, also if you get lapped you get pulled from the track
Go back to like the WORKS bikes of 70's and 80's??
That my man would be the death of motocross and SUPERCROSS
Eli is not saying this to hurt privateers he’s saying this holding the sport back
250 stock off the showroom floor, 450 stock off the showroom floor, remove the LCQ for time, and 450 "promod" with no build rules. 250's and 450's still have privateers and some factory teams while the cream of the crop move to "promod". Injuries in the promod get replaced by the top guy points wise in the 450 class.
This would be great. I remember the mad trickery of the factory works bikes when I was a kid. Hannah's RC 250 STILL looks like it could be competitive today. I remember being so jealous of Lechien's RC 125. All that custom aluminum built specifically for him was the first MX bike to sport a completely flat layout in the rider's cockpit area and is still used on current bikes. The Team Honda riders knew what they liked, and it's carried over to today.
I say bring in the works bikes. Let the technology come in and grow.
agree
Why not do two 450 races per event make one an production class so you have one race on production bike and one open class were you have bikes with all the goodies
So basically you want only the best and the most amount money possible in the sport. Yeah, because the fans that actually have to pay for tickets and products love getting priced out not being able to afford anything. Get the heck out of here! Love watching LCQ's for the 4 guys trying there asses all year to make mains and now the end of year races. I actually get a little of the whole slower guys safety stuff, but if there not whiling to have a non-top guys race then no. I do think there should always be some way for a privateer to make it in, Even it looks a little different then fine.
Open up the “ good old days of open class 500 cc two strokes”!
The issue is that there aren’t enough factory rides to fill a gate in an “open” class. You’ve got guys like hill finishing in front of “factory” guys but he’s still considered a privateer. Tedder may be well off but they still don’t have the capabilities of a true factory effort. Maybe make a 250, 450, and then add an open class.
Totally agree..would love to see prototype parts
Suzuki was a 2 billion dollar company. The government spending to much is what caused the GFC not Suzuki road racing. Spending 20mil a year on racing didn't bankrupt anyone. The good ol blame game. Yamaha and Honda couldn't win so they cried. We came out in 09 on stock bikes thanks to new rules and still kicked everyone's ass. Budgets nothing to do with it.
He can always go race MXGP.
Hell Yeah… Build Works Bikes like in the early 80’s
I actually think he’ll win the Supercross title this year. He’s not playing around with it being his last year.
Open Class, build it and race it.
Make a change with making it to the main. You have to be within 10sec of the number 1 qualifier to make it to the main. There doesn’t need to be a set number of riders per race. If only 25 guys make it to the main then that’s who races if 40 guys make it next time good. It will always vary.
Sounds like *Eli* needs to pull an *RV* & if this is his retirement year switch places with *Prado* & go race some *MXGP's* where they don't have the production rule. *(RC* also wishes he would have gave the *GP's* a shot) beyond *MXON*
When are you gonna get Stewart on the show
Just listen to his podcast where he gives his opinion on everything already 😂😂
@CalBoggs what do you mean
Agree get Bubba on the show 100%
@@dagodigs You do know James has his own podcast right?
@PNW_Car_Mods yea what's that got to do w anything 😂 is James asking himself questions about racing Ricky and Chad and winning championships 🤔
An open class similar to what MotoGP has would be awesome.
The mic idea would be interesting and the audio for notifications for track conditions like yellow and red cross flags.
Makes me think how many great seasons have we lost due to teams having to learn a new bike that's forced on them? Last year with Sexton, seemingly this year with Jett? Talking about Privateers, how much of a difference would it really make in the 450 class? we aren't seeing Privateers, unless you count Kenny, consistently finishing in the top 5, they are already so far behind a trick frame isn't going to make a difference.
Sexton last year may be a bad example being new to the team, but the bike was new to them as well
It was awesome to hear from Tomac. Hopefully next time we can hear more from the man bun host as he was so quiet and Tomac wouldn’t let him talk lol😂
I see people complaining about Jace talking too much, but dude Eli can barely form a full sentence without his brain seemingly turning off lol
He doesn’t seem all there. but doesn’t seem like a social person, those guys are so elite that they probably just don’t converse all that much
@@Palmdalebandit_he chooses his answers wisely and thinks about it first.
Dude lives in his own fairyland
they tried the mic up thing in at least one older race, dont remember which race and it was cool
How come people can’t wrap their minds around this. There is no reason for 60 privateers showing up chewing up the track with no chance of making money or making the field. Set the field at fixed number of riders all making money one qualifying session and go race. Privateers can race another series and earn their way in. Just like every other race series.
For safety reasons, the tough blocks should have water bags in the bottom of them.And not covered with the plastic bag.They should be a foam that just disintegrates when you hit it and comes apart
9 whoops helps nobody but Cooper Webb.
Eli looks kinda baked
Why can’t we just be happy with the way the sport is now. You hear the older generations talk about how much better it was back in the day. It’s not going to be F1 or moto Gp. And if it does get there, it will be unobtainable to the Carmichael’s, McGraths, Villopoto’s, Jett Lawrence’s. It will be a gate full of the fastest rich kids.
We used to have the Open Class. Run what ya brung. 700cc 2 stroke single.
glad to hear this. let's see radical designs again.
The idea of in-ear comms in theory sounds good. Depending on the rider, auditory may be upsetting or distracting when concentrating in techy sections. I wonder if doing lighting on the front fender or bar pad would be a better option. We already have leader lights and GET products from commercial and personal technology
What about F1? Guys traveling at over 200mph on street circuits. Every rider who's ever used coms will tell you it's not a big deal if done right.
@GYPSYTALES fair, i wonder how much f1 racers listen for the cars around them compared to moto. Countering this note is the fact flagging audio triggers can probably be short duration and just repeated increments while in the zone.
Make the 450 class a 350 class and the 250 class a 180 class. I think it will feel more like the 250 and 125 2 stroke days.
I'm sure the manufacturers would love that...
Here's the change I'd like to see & that's to allow 250 2-STROKES to race the 250 4-STROKES. They race differently & would use different lines, increasing the racing quality. Even if they have to use rules, restrictions are fine because the 2-STROKE is so much cheaper than a 4-STROKE, especially to race & maintain, which would help the privateers & smaller teams. But I also think this is why so few normiesvride compare to the late 80s throught the erly 2000s. Modern 4-STROKES are just so expensive
[The ONLY problem is I think ONLY Yamaha & the Austrian brands make a 250 2-STROKE]
The way things are each year the manufacture tries to get the most competitive bike and developed for top racing and we the public have that advantage.
Without the production rule bikes for the average consumer wouldn't be at the level they are now
Please put your old intro back....
Yes please
No privateers is just crazy.
Eli strikes me as someone who grew up rich,was homeschooled and got very little exposure to the outside world aside from when he was going to races. This comment has nothing to do with the fact he worked his ass off to get to where he is. He just always seems socially detached from his surroundings.
250 east/west , 350 class where you can qualify into and it’s the current 450 class.
450 class is “the guys”
Nice job calling Eli a freak to his face around 2:00
Maybe bring back hay bales to replace tuff blocks. Gotta be a little bit softer landing
More whoop sections but not as tall would be better
Also more sand or mud sections instead of just 1
Moto GP is Prototype racing for a reason . They push the boundaries of what possible for the vehicles and riders. The point is to test crazy tech and then have it trickle down to other bikes later. 250 should be production but 450 should be the equivalent to Moto GP prototypes
Ditch a practice and add a Superpole for the top 5 or 10 that pays bonus points and could be a Superpole championship on its own.
They have a hard time getting the setup working on the stock bike. Making more options for setup will just make it harder
Great ideas!!!!! 450 werks bike make sense! Make it like F1 but have a spending cap!
How about letting each guy qualify without any other riders around them . Give each guy a couple minutes with a clear track because other riders get in the way and screw up times.
Superpole?
@@Upthebroncos310 would be cool to have a 2.5 lap superpole only on race day... Maybe 3.5 and average two best laps. but yeah, agree, superpole would be best. how we do it now is just odd af really
Almost like MotoGP, where prototype bikes are what is raced.
Agree, rider mechanic communication would help riders!!?
Bro!! Let your guests talk! Especially someone like Eli.
He likes hearing his annoying ass Aussie accent
What if the tough blocks were simply printed card board like a helmet box. No cushion, but unlikely to get sucked up into a wheel like the covers
If it would be the same result if they were on the same bike I dont want to hear them blaming the bike for struggling
Smaller teams and privateers would literally be run out of the sport if the factory teams had that kind of money. You love the sport bud why would you want to push the little guy out.
Wrong. For pros, we should have a 125 two-stroke class and an Open class. That's it.
Reduce the 450s to 350s, but make them full prototypes like MotoGP.
300 and 200.look how small the F1 car engines have gotten.
I wonder how production is 22 yamaha was
I don't think in-ear communication solves the flag issue. A rider can easily say "I didn't hear it. It malfunctioned". Or "I didn't hear it, Barcia was next to me" 😁
Deegan is gonna show everyone next week the rest are all racing to be second
What about start devices? Start grate?
One fuel for everyone option of three different rear tires for the weekend by one tire manufacturer
No triple headers maybe more double headers of 15 minutes duration
3 Classes?
250, 450 and Open/Modified?
SX mic’s up but they just call eachother slurs
So, if it doesn't matter then just race stock bikes...if it doesn't matter...
Thanks for the content, only one suggestion give guys like eli time to think and answer. He is a cerebral guy need to gove him space.
Two practices ...qualifying should be five minutes 3 sessions
I think a big issue with our series is the financial gap between the factory teams and the privateer teams. If there was a budget for our sport it would help the privateer teams stay competitive with the factory teams from a bike and rider perspective.
I also wish teams got paid out at the end of the year for their performance. Like a separate team championship from the rider championship. That way the privateer teams feel they are competing for something and can invest more into their bikes and their riders with the money they win racing. I feel this is a good place to start to keep privateers in the sport. Get these guys on smaller teams making money and out of their own vans trying to make it work on their own.
Nah, I agree. It doesn't really do us any good when they have a "production" bike, and then drop $250k worth of trick parts onto the platform. The MXGPs aren't any less popular or fun to watch because they are free-reign. Let the platforms be made for each rider. Do a cap on the costs, and go fuckin' wild. We want to see the athletes, not the bikes, and the bikes should put them in the best position possible.
Also...the Forkner comment was out of pocket lmao
Make all parts available. Or make the specs available.
Tomac wants a modded frame, make the info available so privateers can copy it…. Nowadays that would be so easy.
Ported head or different valve timing…. Do it! Just make the specs available so others can copy it.
If a privateer wants to beef up his frame, let him do it! Just make it public!
If were saying anything goes then let the limiting factor be CC's alone! A privateer operation can absolutely build a 450 cc 2 stroke bike and be competitive with a talented rider.
If they keep privateers in 450s, make it that the top 15 guys don't have to participate in every session. Remove a practice other two. Both free and timed. Let the privateers do an lcq for the last five spots. Definitely get rid of production rule for 450, maybe tighten it up a little for 250s.
That kinda sucks for the consumer not to mention how insane the spending would go its basically the last affordable motorsport out there and you wanna drop the privateers? Geezuse goodbye motocross
The reason that AMA is better than the European championship is the Priveteers...
Watch guys like Masterpool, Phil Nicoleti getting top 10 scores is amazing.
Plus, I don't believe so much on the works bikes. American riders won the mxon more than any other country with stock frames.