Some would argue that Hitlers party was founded and promoted as a socialist party. Without doubt he was an evil man and had abhorrent views. Yet this doesn’t hold a candle to the atrocities committed by the left!
The modern left hates the working class, all they care about is minority interests that are of zero importance to the needs of the collective majority.
Cheers James your pathetic hatred of Corbyn helped the Tories into power. yeah well played on that one. Most of the time I see your point of view but on that one no way.
You're right. That skit about his cat was just pathetic, and it's funny how he can see authoritarian in musk... but can't recognise it in starmer. He became a one trick pony...
Oh yes Job single handedly destroyed Corbyn .... Not Corbyn refusel to do any media engagement. His refusal to tell the public how he was to govern other that 'trust me it will be great' His paniced policies that appeared and dissapeared weekly free Internet for all ! How to pay for it ? Stop being a capitalist ! His USLESS display at PMQs his vitrol to the Blair government dispite it being the most successful since the 60's Also his refusal to actually tell the truth and say if he voted leave or not. But ya it was a raido host that did him in .... keep dreaming.
2:43 Seriously James? Forgotten that India was colonized by the privately-owned East India Company? It was a hundred years before the British Crown took over possession of India.
Unfortunately, Elon is very popular in the US amongst supporters of the previous president. The Republicans are not supportive of Ukraine either. That is an additional concern.
The war really needs to end before the next US election. Trump getting back in (which is a very real possibility) would swing the war massively in Putin's favour.
@@teddansonLA no, helped give us Johnson. Now we are 3 years 9 months into another Tory government and Labour now have a leader who a) goes back on pledges (like a Tory), b) takes in donations from big business (like a tory), c) has bought into Tory economics wholeheartedly and has promised to fix everything by "growing the economy" (like a tory) d) promises not to reverse Tory draconian laws (like a Tory, whats the bets he doesnt go back on that) and e) calls himself the real conservative (like a tory). And in interviews James treats the lying Tory in charge of labour like he's the 2nd coming.
Who else was offering starlink communication to Ukraine, is LBC going to lambast every billionaire in the world for not offering the service over there.
Not every billionaire in the world owns Starlink. Elon Musk does and his actions are the equivalent of having chosen a side. He chose the wrong side for anyone that believes in democracy. The US goverment' should make alternate arrangements for satellite communications. In the interest of national defence a private contractor should not be allowed to have control over a network like Starlink. arrangements
@@robertstanford1778Democracy in Ukraine is similar to democracy in Somalia or in other African countries with armed coups, civil wars and redistribution of resources. It is not necessary to insert the word "democracy" everywhere.Ukraine is fighting to keep Zelensky on the throne longer, and US arms factories will receive new contracts.
1) He's been trying to make America more authoritarian for several years. 2) He's been buddying up with fascists, Russia, and nazi's 3) He is partly responsible for the missiles those ships now fire at civilians, the resulting casualties, and the starvation from the grain ships they block.
@@itsmyopinion.5257what they said is true. Musk has been helping dictators in Saudi Arabia Russia China and India and that's just off the top of my head
These people can't be helped man. Everything is culture wars and global agendas. I don't even like Musk but this is so blown out of proportion. It's a satellite.
he SECRETLY had his engineers turn off access after receiving a tweet from an RT correspondent suggesting he do so...but he's somehow not compromised....yeah sure
@@johngreylove1359if most of your fortune comes from selling your product, ie auto, banking, launching satellite’s and a data transfer network to a certain country, then sorry you show your allegiance to that country and if you turn on the cash cow you deserve to lose the lot.
@@johngreylove1359His starlink system has direct military contracts with the US and they were paying him to help the Ukrainians His starlink much like his space X also are only possible because of subsidies and contracts by the US government Giving them higher influence and control over the existence and funding for these systems he uses Him literally turning off satellite on request from Russia, costing Ukrianian soldiers and civilian lives who are allies of the US military Is a very high sign of problematic activity
It appears to me that his initial motivation was to provide internet services to the people of Ukraine . Perhaps he no longer feels comfortable with the consequences of the involvement.
I have never liked Musk. I honestly have a feeling this man could cause great harm to the western world if he so chooses, whether it be through information, or collapsing financial markets. He is an anarchist (nothing wrong with this in itself), the most dangerous type, a totalitarianist, in the sense that he understands globalism and infromation/power is now on the WWW, and uses this, the new 'state' if you like. When ever I see him a certain Spitting image song comes to mind 😂
If you know this so do those who utilize his industries.Yet they still chose him.And he should never have been put in this position except when you are at war and there has been no such declaration.Would you be prepared to fight Russia?Do you really believe this is an honourable or just conflict?
Like being the greatest influence in reducing climate change? It must drive the left crazy that they have to be climate deniers just because they hate Musk.
I want to know why there is no screaming about EM contacting Russians about a Classified Military Action-- in ADVANCE...??? Why are we not more angry about him telling them about the upcoming Attack...??? Isn't that Sabotage??
Elon musk famously asked on line ...if I can fix homelessness in the US let me know, I'll do it ... unfortunately some one gave him a coated solution ...he never replied
You are not a student of military history...private armies are the norm from prehistory to 1800. Mercenaries have played huge roles in most conflicts and they always had a veto over where their troops went.
Hi. its Lawrence, im still getting used to this laptop. Elon used to talk to me untill I had the gall to say that perhaps going to Mars was a mistake. lol, wow, he did not take that well. I just pointed out Venus was closer, and hanging in its atmosphere was a better idea. Very thin skinned wee man.
James and his fan bace constantly collaborate against the interests of the British people. If musk is guilty he might well be. You guys are collaborators too.
The caller's naive assertion that businessmen don't get involved in death reminds me of a scene in The Godfather. Kay says to Michael that senators and politicians don't have people killed. "Now who is being naive" responds Michael.
100% this. it happens in African countries too, i think right now too. Just days ago a politician in a country got assassinated and his party new leader and his wife, must wear body armors now. The whole country is falling appart from this.
Businessmen in general can get involved in deateh, but as a rule of thumb they do not. It's not a question of his naivete, it's a question of your cynicism, but actually, it's a question of you not having any arguments so you needing to twist reality to actually find an argument. Elon didn't thwart any attack, pro-American imperialists seethe and cope lol. Then go watch some Chomsky.
Except corporatism doesn't mean the same thing now as it did to Mussolini. It meant incorporating business and trade unions and the state into a single but separate entity. In other words the state can do anything to business or trade unions it wants because they are subordinate to the state.
No, what people usually call corporatism is actually corporatocracy (which isn't the easiest word to say). Actual corporatism is something different, I think mostly unrelated.
Given he's being paid by the US military, this is surely a breach of contract? He absolutely should be facing consequences for unilaterally taking a decision that affects a war: no one person should have that power.
This is exactly what it is, its that pure and simple. He was probably unpopular at school and still has a bee in his bonnet that he wasn't the hot guy and years of pent up anger is coming out.
Because Jeremy corbyn has been living rent free in his head ever since he turned James down for an interview and he has been having an emotional melt down ever since
everything james moans about all day, suddenly corbyn came along and offered the actual real alternative that would have stopped all these things... and james jumped in on the media hate train and helped lose labour the election by peddling false bs about corbyn and the party which helped get the conservatives elected again and cause the suffering weve had ever since. corbyn showed james up for not being about solutions, hes just a professional complainer but when the rubber meets the road hes an agent for the status quo, dont change society. hes basically a nimby, i hate everything about what neroliberal centreright capitalism is doing... but dont change it in my back yard.
I don't know who he thinks he is. He's living in the US and the US are helping Ukraine defend themselves, he's not elected, he's paid to supply the internet, that's it. He should face severe consequences for this.
No- one is untouchable , Musk can and will be brought to task for this traitorous act. I wonder if he was approached by the pro- Putin/ Moscow Republicans ?
Its public money mostly though. Space X receives huge funds from NASA and Tesla exists on government subsidies. Like all very rich men he loves socialism, just not for the rest of us.
He was paid by the US military for over double the retail cost for the terminals in Ukraine. He sold them to a military, who passed them on to another military, one who was invaded. But he doesn't want to be involved in a war? What did he think they were going to be doing with it? Browsing twitter?
This is false. Read the article. The contracts were clear that starlink was for defense and civilian use, not escalation. And it was in fact Glynn Shotwell that wanted to deny Ukraine access, Elon overrode her decision and continued to provide it, despite the damage to his reputation for helping.
Triple... Per Independent: "The government agreed to purchase closer to 1,500 standard Starlink terminals for $1,500 apiece and pay $800,000 for transportation costs. This cost the US taxpayer over $3 million. Commercial Starlink terminals are priced at $600 per terminal, plus $110 per month for the internet service." Per Washington Post: "USAID agreed to purchase closer to 1,500 standard Starlink terminals for $1,500 apiece and to pay an additional $800,000 for transportation costs, documents show, adding up to over $3 million in taxpayer dollars paid to SpaceX for the equipment sent to Ukraine. USAID is paying $1,500 for each standard terminal and the accompanying service, documents show. According to the Starlink website, a standard terminal set costs $600, while the monthly service charge costs $110, plus an additional $100 for shipping and handling." Many more articles... Poland & France (if I'm not mistaken) have joined in to help as well..
@@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC...everything said is a matter of public knowledge. You can Google it and find a thousand reliable sources for this info, most of whom are only one step removed from a Musk, Starlink, Ukraine, or USA press release.
Benito Mussolini - 'The definition of fascism is The marriage of corporation and state ' Benito Mussolini, the founder of Fascism. Fascism is here folks. It has been for a long time...
You accuse Elon Musk to finance the Russians to prolong the war against Ukraine so he does not earn more money sending free dishes and free licenses to use Starlink to the Ukrainian military. Is that what you want to say?
I mean if it was free it would be (in business terms) a loss and not profitable since he is losing money from it but if the US government made their own type of “starlink”it would have helped a lot then
If it was free it wouldn’t be there for people to use. Money is the incentive for these building projects. You don’t deserve free internet it’s a human right
Starlink was being used by the people renting it, his intervention in ANYONE'S service is wrong. Especially because he admitted he was doing it because of pressure from Russia.
What a ridiculous uninformed pro kremlin statement to make. Putin started the war, he can end it right now by getting out of Ukraine (a Sovereign nation).
@@goblinwisdom it was being used by the Banderites to carry out war crimes, musk pulled the pin (and rightly so) last year when the (((right wing))) govt running Ukraine carried out missile attacks on civilian areas. It was only after washington intervened and most likely filled elons pockets with more cash that he reluctantly turned it back on. Its almost like everyone got amnesia now 🤔
Well I guess you all want ww3 Possibly nuclear! Anyone who’s looking to resolve the conflict with peace talks gets my vote! A vary disappointing out look from your show James
on your last point: the billionares don't buy teslas, that's for us peasents... the billionares invest in his companies, that's why he doesn't want to lose them
Cause like Corbin Musk is using the "I pick no side," and "well there's no real aggressor or loser here, both sides are equally as responsible and equally need to bow down" It's F'king cowardly.
@@Armed-Forever it's not a proxy war and acting like it is is so dishonesty weaselly You literally are spitting on Ukrainians as a people with this partisan hackery. Disgusting.
We really are living in a movie. When did we reach the point where one billionaire can have such influence on global affairs and just unilaterally make decisions that impact the lives of thousands if not millions because he feels like doing it
Starlink service in Ukrainian was paid for by Ukraine and its allies this is not a free service he was letting them use despite his(musk's) propaganda.
Musk is MASSIVELY uninformed on current events. I would eager that you are very similar to him; you don't like observable reality, so you make up your own version instead and then just call everyone else dumb for not believing it . Have a fantastic day.
I'd argue he did it because he is arrogant and opinionated and thinks he's better/smarter than he actually is. Thing is, he's a billionaire so if he has a terrible idea he can just make it happen. Of course he's also insecure and needs his ego soothed so it's no surprise he doesn't like people making fun of him and criticising him. So IMHO the disruption is just a side-effect.
If they cut it off without informing Ukraine, they intentionally killed any troops that died as a result. Even if they had a right to turn it off, they had a duty to inform them well in advance.
That satellite was not on, so therefore wasn't turned off. The condition was always to assist Ukrainian people with the satellites, not for use of NATO or the military.
If Oppenheimer had been working for a billionaire, then what ? Maybe hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians wouldn't have been nuked ? You're usually very sharp, James, but you've lost me on this one.
James, you continually refer to others as "client media" for the political misrepresentation of others, however you're guilty of the same re:Corbyn. Corbyns policy was to get people around a table and end conficts. How do you think conflicts end? Oh yeah.... by getting around a table and negotiating.
It's almost as if one person having this much wealth, power and resources is a bad thing for humanity as a whole. Maybe we ought to, I dunno, tax these people?
You need to look into the recent history of the conflict, from 2014 on to understand why he would have decided to do this. Otherwise you're listening to the same people who told you lr@q had we@p0ns of m@$$ d*structl0n. There is a documentary called 'Ukraine On Fire' and it explains the reality of what has really been going on there. Its shocking and a lot of people may not be able to stomach it.
he paid the largest personal sum of taxes EVER in the history of the usa - billions when his options vested . that was like a year or 2 ago. so it's not about taxes.
He's the one who made a show about 'sticking it to Russia' and then on a spineless whim he's all-of-a-sudden 'worried about nuclear retaliation' (which I do not buy for a second). Quite the little weasel isn't he? The only upside is that governments around the world will become incredibly allergic to doing any truly deep business with him because of such wishy-washy behaviour. (I pray)
"I don't wanna be part of this war so I'm gonna make a decision that directly effects said war and aids in one side's defense while continuing to communicate with that sides leader-" For someone that is so successful, he ain't the brightest.
I still find it interesting that Ukraine being invaded is seen differently to the world in comparison to other countries being invaded. And any idiot who cites any reason to say one human is better then another is just that idiotic.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Elon Musk for President ? (move over Donald)....... Don't think it couldn't happen. Lord help us all.
@@michaelk.jensen1611 It's not government operations when the satellites belong to Elon. They were not to be used for military operations, that was always the condition
Elon Musk on Thursday acknowledged turning off internet access from his Starlink satellites during a Ukrainian raid last year on a Russian naval fleet. He said he did so to prevent SpaceX from being “complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation.” He only turned off access to Starlink over Crimean peninsula. The StarLink over Ukraine wasn't turned off. Remember when he voluntarily turned on the Starlink over Ukraine. When he did it he clearly said it's only for defense and communication purpose.
Why do so many American right wingers side with the Russians in this conflict? He has shown to be one of them and seems to share their ideologies so that may explain his behaviour
Lol james O'Brien Pearl clutching. Starlink was always a private enterprise from day one. Musk competeted against many companies to get fcc funding for yhe project it was never a military thing. If you only oearned about star link a year ago or today do your homework
@@jjboswell5043no mostly private but yes some public mostly FCC money. But it's funny James O'Brian isn't talking about why there aren't peace negotiations with Russia.
Hes already lost the value in twitter and everything he is doing is breaking the value there. His tesla cars are absolutely terrible, Billionaires aren't smart , they have just horded money.
Fascism is when the upper class weaponizes the middle class to make sure the lower class doesn‘t gain too much power. The last caller is spot on.
It's why James hates Corbyn 😂 such a wet wipe!
Some would argue that Hitlers party was founded and promoted as a socialist party. Without doubt he was an evil man and had abhorrent views. Yet this doesn’t hold a candle to the atrocities committed by the left!
We used to know what to do with them too.
Post outside of the Piazzale Loreto where?
The modern left hates the working class, all they care about is minority interests that are of zero importance to the needs of the collective majority.
Cheers James your pathetic hatred of Corbyn helped the Tories into power. yeah well played on that one. Most of the time I see your point of view but on that one no way.
You're right. That skit about his cat was just pathetic, and it's funny how he can see authoritarian in musk... but can't recognise it in starmer. He became a one trick pony...
Oh yes Job single handedly destroyed Corbyn ....
Not Corbyn refusel to do any media engagement. His refusal to tell the public how he was to govern other that 'trust me it will be great'
His paniced policies that appeared and dissapeared weekly free Internet for all ! How to pay for it ? Stop being a capitalist !
His USLESS display at PMQs his vitrol to the Blair government dispite it being the most successful since the 60's
Also his refusal to actually tell the truth and say if he voted leave or not.
But ya it was a raido host that did him in .... keep dreaming.
Exactly
Absolutely spot on.
This should be an advertisement for nations not to use Musky's nonsense businesses for anything, really.
Cope.
@@donpiano.684Is that the new name for twitter?
I keep hearing ‘Stalin’ and it’s freaking me out. 😂
2:43 Seriously James?
Forgotten that India was colonized by the privately-owned East India Company? It was a hundred years before the British Crown took over possession of India.
Government* not crown
If he had 50p to his name, Musk would still have more money than sense.
😂😂😂
Do you even know what 50p looks like?
...and that's why you're boycotting twitter...well done...!
@@chatham43 Yes...thank you
Cant boycott a platform I never joined in the first place !
Unfortunately, Elon is very popular in the US amongst supporters of the previous president. The Republicans are not supportive of Ukraine either. That is an additional concern.
The war really needs to end before the next US election. Trump getting back in (which is a very real possibility) would swing the war massively in Putin's favour.
The MAGA wing of the Republican party is not supportive of Ukraine. Traditional Republicans are very supportive of Ukraine.
Still having digs at corbyn eh.......you helped give us Johnson!!
No he didn't. The Labour party chose their leader poorly, and there's not much else to be said about it.
@@teddansonLA no, helped give us Johnson. Now we are 3 years 9 months into another Tory government and Labour now have a leader who a) goes back on pledges (like a Tory), b) takes in donations from big business (like a tory), c) has bought into Tory economics wholeheartedly and has promised to fix everything by "growing the economy" (like a tory) d) promises not to reverse Tory draconian laws (like a Tory, whats the bets he doesnt go back on that) and e) calls himself the real conservative (like a tory).
And in interviews James treats the lying Tory in charge of labour like he's the 2nd coming.
Yes and that organised group of criminals called the Conservatives
I think Musk thinks he's Captain Nemo.
Worse, he thinks he's competent, instead of just rich
He thinks he's the guy who wrote that novel about that trip to Mars
He told me he felt more like The Boy Wonder 🎉
Who else was offering starlink communication to Ukraine, is LBC going to lambast every billionaire in the world for not offering the service over there.
Not every billionaire in the world owns Starlink. Elon Musk does and his actions are the equivalent of having chosen a side. He chose the wrong side for anyone that believes in democracy. The US goverment' should make alternate arrangements for satellite communications. In the interest of national defence a private contractor should not be allowed to have control over a network like Starlink. arrangements
@@robertstanford1778Democracy in Ukraine is similar to democracy in Somalia or in other African countries with armed coups, civil wars and redistribution of resources. It is not necessary to insert the word "democracy" everywhere.Ukraine is fighting to keep Zelensky on the throne longer, and US arms factories will receive new contracts.
1) He's been trying to make America more authoritarian for several years. 2) He's been buddying up with fascists, Russia, and nazi's 3) He is partly responsible for the missiles those ships now fire at civilians, the resulting casualties, and the starvation from the grain ships they block.
What 😂 , nothing you just said was factual it's your opinion.
yes
@@itsmyopinion.5257what they said is true. Musk has been helping dictators in Saudi Arabia Russia China and India and that's just off the top of my head
How has he made America authoritarian?
Musk's Fascism is 'organic': he is the brain, and everybody else is a subsidiary body part under control of the "brain".
James needs to get over his corbyn hate.
centrist melt behaviour is uncouth and unbecoming
We all need to get over Corbyn, he's gone..
@@mwd331 clearly you haven't
Maybe he's trying NOT to escalate a conflict?
I'm sorry, how do you escalate an imperialist invasion? By having the temerity to defend yourself? Oh no.
Moreover, he is no one to decide that.
These people can't be helped man. Everything is culture wars and global agendas.
I don't even like Musk but this is so blown out of proportion. It's a satellite.
@@zephyr8072it's not his job
@@TheMagicJIZZ Uh, yes. That's my point. That job is left to people infinitely smarter than him. By which I mean 99.9% of Earth's population.
OBrien not doing any research again. Seeing a pattern here. For a journo, he's really lazy.
10:39 - Russia's Economy has dropped by like 3% max, it is not at risk of 'losing the war' from Elon Musk not turning the internet off.
He is definitely a Bond villain.
My solar grids will save the planet, ha ha ha, twiddle mustache.
He's the real life Hugo Drac from Moonraker
he SECRETLY had his engineers turn off access after receiving a tweet from an RT correspondent suggesting he do so...but he's somehow not compromised....yeah sure
He's no more compromised than anyone else. He's hasn't sworn an oath to the US or Ukraine military or any other.
@@johngreylove1359if most of your fortune comes from selling your product, ie auto, banking, launching satellite’s and a data transfer network to a certain country, then sorry you show your allegiance to that country and if you turn on the cash cow you deserve to lose the lot.
@@johngreylove1359His starlink system has direct military contracts with the US and they were paying him to help the Ukrainians
His starlink much like his space X also are only possible because of subsidies and contracts by the US government
Giving them higher influence and control over the existence and funding for these systems he uses
Him literally turning off satellite on request from Russia, costing Ukrianian soldiers and civilian lives who are allies of the US military
Is a very high sign of problematic activity
I'm under the impression this was before the US decide to foot the bill.
The richest man in the world is aiding the richest man in the world, think about it!
And because he's in bed with the MIC !!! get a clue!
He stopped a pearl harbour style attack on the Russian navy Putin would have responded by using nuclear weapons
It appears to me that his initial motivation was to provide internet services to the people of Ukraine . Perhaps he no longer feels comfortable with the consequences of the involvement.
I have never liked Musk. I honestly have a feeling this man could cause great harm to the western world if he so chooses, whether it be through information, or collapsing financial markets. He is an anarchist (nothing wrong with this in itself), the most dangerous type, a totalitarianist, in the sense that he understands globalism and infromation/power is now on the WWW, and uses this, the new 'state' if you like. When ever I see him a certain Spitting image song comes to mind 😂
Tinfoil hat time.
If you know this so do those who utilize his industries.Yet they still chose him.And he should never have been put in this position except when you are at war and there has been no such declaration.Would you be prepared to fight Russia?Do you really believe this is an honourable or just conflict?
Like being the greatest influence in reducing climate change? It must drive the left crazy that they have to be climate deniers just because they hate Musk.
This wound up being fake news, and the author retracted his claim 😂 Not that O'Brien would care.
This is very, very scary
He supports freedom of speech. He is not part of the establishment. You can’t put him in a box and you can’t bear it.
Billionaires have eaten your brain
I want to know why there is no screaming about EM contacting Russians about a Classified Military Action-- in ADVANCE...???
Why are we not more angry about him telling them about the upcoming Attack...???
Isn't that Sabotage??
His moral compass is way off. He would rather populate Mars over solving problems on earth. Horrible man is crazy
As a US citizen this show is literally a breath of fresh air every time I watch it.💯😩
I prefer authoritarianism, there's a thin line between that and libertarianism...
Our little boy is growing up * sniff *.
I keep expecting Space Karen to be pictured stroking a white cat and changing his name to Ernst Stavro Blofeld
Thanks for keeping this discussion out front!
Elon wants Putin, Trump, and Boris to finish what they started.
Elon is team Putin.
James 'No Brain strikes again
Elon musk famously asked on line ...if I can fix homelessness in the US let me know, I'll do it ... unfortunately some one gave him a coated solution ...he never replied
The poor old liberal Londoners must be hiding under their beds, again! 😂😂
I’ve never heard such propagandist, brainwashed, ‘centrist’ claptrap in my life.
You are not a student of military history...private armies are the norm from prehistory to 1800. Mercenaries have played huge roles in most conflicts and they always had a veto over where their troops went.
Elon Nomates probably hid in his room when he was a kid because no-one wanted to play with him. Would you?
Hi. its Lawrence, im still getting used to this laptop. Elon used to talk to me untill I had the gall to say that perhaps going to Mars was a mistake. lol, wow, he did not take that well. I just pointed out Venus was closer, and hanging in its atmosphere was a better idea. Very thin skinned wee man.
Back in the old days, we used to call that collaborating
and it used to get you shot
This! 🔥🔥🔥💯
Like WW 2 where the US supplied the Nazis the machines to identify who to send to the gas chambers
James and his fan bace constantly collaborate against the interests of the British people. If musk is guilty he might well be. You guys are collaborators too.
He's completely free to collaborate with Russia. Since when do liberals like James obrien get off telling people to be loyal to a nation?
The caller's naive assertion that businessmen don't get involved in death reminds me of a scene in The Godfather. Kay says to Michael that senators and politicians don't have people killed. "Now who is being naive" responds Michael.
100% this.
it happens in African countries too, i think right now too. Just days ago a politician in a country got assassinated and his party new leader and his wife, must wear body armors now. The whole country is falling appart from this.
Businessmen in general can get involved in deateh, but as a rule of thumb they do not. It's not a question of his naivete, it's a question of your cynicism, but actually, it's a question of you not having any arguments so you needing to twist reality to actually find an argument.
Elon didn't thwart any attack, pro-American imperialists seethe and cope lol. Then go watch some Chomsky.
I wish people would stop calling Musk private industry. He's got so many govt contracts it's not even funny.
His only genius is accessing government payouts
His only genius is accessing government payouts
Corporate welfare scrounging keeps many US companies afloat.
Biden hates him , he has demonstrated that clearly buy supporting the legacy car makers over tesla. Give it a rest.
Build your own Starlink.
Fascism starts with corporatism, it's the central economic plank of the "philosophy" as defined by Mussolini in his manifesto.
Except corporatism doesn't mean the same thing now as it did to Mussolini. It meant incorporating business and trade unions and the state into a single but separate entity. In other words the state can do anything to business or trade unions it wants because they are subordinate to the state.
@@edmann1820
Keep believing that, it might help you sleep at night. BTW the term you're are looking for is: "Everything for the state".
The Corporate State
Yet nobody talks about weapons manufacturers on the stock market. But tesla, outrageous😊
No, what people usually call corporatism is actually corporatocracy (which isn't the easiest word to say). Actual corporatism is something different, I think mostly unrelated.
1) Abandon X.
2) Stop buying Tesla cars.
What is X??? Everyone still using Twitter... 🤣😂
Don't buy a tesla, buy $TSLA.
I see you’re relying on corporate media to make your judgment.
Obviously you are a climate denier. Why would you encourage people to stop buying EVs? Hatred or stupidity?
the dude is NOT a genius.. he simply has money derived from his fathers diamond min in Africa and has never been told no.
Precisely.
A bingo!
Hilarious how James, smiling to himself, allows that last caller to to publicly hang himself over his shallow understanding of what fascism is.
Really, sometimes, let them talk
Absolutely Right BRAVO
I used to be a big fan of Musk 10 years ago... this iteration is just mad evil. Another fine example of gross inequality doing humanity no favors.
He has become a first class ****!
Musk didn't change mate, you just started noticing.
What because hes not a brainwashed liberal is that the reason
@@Cam-mo7gqalways was, built up a fake personaof himself.
I remember when I knew he existed and didn't have an opinion in any direction. Definitely miss those days.
Given he's being paid by the US military, this is surely a breach of contract? He absolutely should be facing consequences for unilaterally taking a decision that affects a war: no one person should have that power.
Exactly!
Think about what you are saying
Biden
Zelensky
Zaluzny
Macron
Mille
Blinkin
All make unilateral decisions that effect the war
@JackRyan-ng1boUS military pays him to use his satellites for Ukraine's help.
What's written in the contract? Can you confirm his obligations?
@JackRyan-ng1bo Nobody ever voted Elon to represent them. It is not his job to get involved to prevent WW3.
When late stage capitalism becomes indefensible, fascism rises to meet the challenge of defending it.
Did you coin this?
Capitalism and fascism have always been perfect bedfellows. Indeed Mussolini was for a time tempted to call his movement Corporatism.
I could be wrong, but I think he's attempting to make himself seem big and important.
This is exactly what it is, its that pure and simple. He was probably unpopular at school and still has a bee in his bonnet that he wasn't the hot guy and years of pent up anger is coming out.
I can't believe you wrote so much BS in one sentence.
Yes because one of the world richest men isn't big and important 🙄
Your'e right. That's what James does.
@@DiongrecoYou could not be more wrong if you tried.
It seems to me perfectly reasonable that Musk should not want to be part of a dangerous military escalation.
Well he’s allowed the ruskis carte blanche to continue bombing innocent civilians instead. Hope that sits well with you?
Totally agree.
Why the random jab at Corbyn in the middle hahaha
He is againts supporting anyone in it I think.
Because JOB represents the centre, It's crazy how he always moans about the media is right wing, but he never mentioned it when Corbyn was around.
Because Jeremy corbyn has been living rent free in his head ever since he turned James down for an interview and he has been having an emotional melt down ever since
Hes obsessed with jc
everything james moans about all day, suddenly corbyn came along and offered the actual real alternative that would have stopped all these things... and james jumped in on the media hate train and helped lose labour the election by peddling false bs about corbyn and the party which helped get the conservatives elected again and cause the suffering weve had ever since. corbyn showed james up for not being about solutions, hes just a professional complainer but when the rubber meets the road hes an agent for the status quo, dont change society.
hes basically a nimby, i hate everything about what neroliberal centreright capitalism is doing... but dont change it in my back yard.
I don't know who he thinks he is. He's living in the US and the US are helping Ukraine defend themselves, he's not elected, he's paid to supply the internet, that's it. He should face severe consequences for this.
He won't. He's got so much money. Untouchable.
No- one is untouchable , Musk can and will be brought to task for this traitorous act. I wonder if he was approached by the pro- Putin/ Moscow Republicans ?
Politicians in the U.S. are bought and paid for by the likes of Musk.
blood money from his emerald mines @@Mar-enfrance
Its public money mostly though. Space X receives huge funds from NASA and Tesla exists on government subsidies. Like all very rich men he loves socialism, just not for the rest of us.
James, having a pop at Corbyn is a little pathetic.
So is your spelling pal
@@stoneagepig3768 I'm not wrong though.
He was paid by the US military for over double the retail cost for the terminals in Ukraine.
He sold them to a military, who passed them on to another military, one who was invaded. But he doesn't want to be involved in a war? What did he think they were going to be doing with it? Browsing twitter?
Source?
Qualifications?
This is false. Read the article. The contracts were clear that starlink was for defense and civilian use, not escalation. And it was in fact Glynn Shotwell that wanted to deny Ukraine access, Elon overrode her decision and continued to provide it, despite the damage to his reputation for helping.
Triple...
Per Independent:
"The government agreed to purchase closer to 1,500 standard Starlink terminals for $1,500 apiece and pay $800,000 for transportation costs. This cost the US taxpayer over $3 million. Commercial Starlink terminals are priced at $600 per terminal, plus $110 per month for the internet service."
Per Washington Post:
"USAID agreed to purchase closer to 1,500 standard Starlink terminals for $1,500 apiece and to pay an additional $800,000 for transportation costs, documents show, adding up to over $3 million in taxpayer dollars paid to SpaceX for the equipment sent to Ukraine.
USAID is paying $1,500 for each standard terminal and the accompanying service, documents show. According to the Starlink website, a standard terminal set costs $600, while the monthly service charge costs $110, plus an additional $100 for shipping and handling."
Many more articles...
Poland & France (if I'm not mistaken) have joined in to help as well..
@@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC...everything said is a matter of public knowledge. You can Google it and find a thousand reliable sources for this info, most of whom are only one step removed from a Musk, Starlink, Ukraine, or USA press release.
Benito Mussolini - 'The definition of fascism is The marriage of corporation and state '
Benito Mussolini, the founder of Fascism.
Fascism is here folks. It has been for a long time...
And it's getting worse.
Let's not forget that he is literally profiteering off the use of Starlink. So of course the longer he prolongs the war the more he makes.
You accuse Elon Musk to finance the Russians to prolong the war against Ukraine so he does not earn more money sending free dishes and free licenses to use Starlink to the Ukrainian military.
Is that what you want to say?
I mean if it was free it would be (in business terms) a loss and not profitable since he is losing money from it but if the US government made their own type of “starlink”it would have helped a lot then
Its his to decide what to do with whatever he wish!💩
If it was free it wouldn’t be there for people to use.
Money is the incentive for these building projects.
You don’t deserve free internet it’s a human right
His fans all think he's Tony Stark - but he's more of a Lex Luthor type.
Oh no, Luthor's FAR more intelligent than Musk.
He's Edison for the 21st Century.
I get Mr Bean vibes
Don't insult Lex Luthor like that!
He's far more like The Riddler
The contract between SpaceX and Ukraine states it is to be used for civilian/humanitarian reasons, not military uses.
End of story.
[Citation Needed]
That is completely understandable and right.
@@chrisviking7807 no one is forcing Ukraine to use Starlink. They can use another service if they like.
@@kermit1 Offering a service and then withdrawing it to aid the enemy is deception and blackmail.
Stop defending Elon. He will never love you.
If Musk pulled this kind of stunt in Russia, he would find himself falling out of a window.
Or drinking a specially brewed cup of glowing tea! 😋
He maybe thought that himself would have flown out of the window if he didn't do what he did.
Starlink for Netflix not war.
Starlink was being used by the people renting it, his intervention in ANYONE'S service is wrong. Especially because he admitted he was doing it because of pressure from Russia.
Does he own netflix.. I think he want people to use twitter, and buy stuff on ebay with paypal..!
What a ridiculous uninformed pro kremlin statement to make. Putin started the war, he can end it right now by getting out of Ukraine (a Sovereign nation).
I thought gamers were the main target for customers...?
Starlink is an abomination and musk isnt your friend.
@@goblinwisdom it was being used by the Banderites to carry out war crimes, musk pulled the pin (and rightly so) last year when the (((right wing))) govt running Ukraine carried out missile attacks on civilian areas. It was only after washington intervened and most likely filled elons pockets with more cash that he reluctantly turned it back on. Its almost like everyone got amnesia now 🤔
Well I guess you all want ww3
Possibly nuclear!
Anyone who’s looking to resolve the conflict with peace talks gets my vote!
A vary disappointing out look from your show James
If Russia leave Ukraine peace fully I agree all the other out come it’s like 2e WW all over again
Dangerous with far too much power
He must be stopped
Indefinitely
Along with all the other billionaires who control everything, strangely Elon gets more hate than the others.
But his solar grids are saving the planet. Oh it's such a dilema.
...so start by boycotting twitter...or is that a step too far....😊
Muskmelon must be squashed, and in short order.
on your last point:
the billionares don't buy teslas, that's for us peasents...
the billionares invest in his companies, that's why he doesn't want to lose them
...except you're not really a peasant are you....?
Even the billionares want profit though
@@chatham43 compared to billionares, even millionares are peasants ;)
Billionaires should not exist
Your cat is more intelligent than Corbyn? 😂 O'Brien showing his inner Farage 😂
Completely absurd comment
I can't take him seriously when he spouts his prejudice
The genius level intellect of James O'Brien can only be in the company of other elite thinkers. His cat is Garfield btw.
Tbf on foreign policy Corbyn was a complete fool. Salisbury poisonings anyone?
They're both bad tbh
One brought Brexit on the table, the other never made a clear stance against it
@@moochoman9948THE Ukraine all the time
Why the corbyn cat remark? Very strange thing to say during a discussion that has nothing to do with corbyn.
Cause like Corbin Musk is using the "I pick no side," and "well there's no real aggressor or loser here, both sides are equally as responsible and equally need to bow down"
It's F'king cowardly.
because corbyn is also not pro this proxy war
@@Armed-Forever it's not a proxy war and acting like it is is so dishonesty weaselly
You literally are spitting on Ukrainians as a people with this partisan hackery.
Disgusting.
We really are living in a movie. When did we reach the point where one billionaire can have such influence on global affairs and just unilaterally make decisions that impact the lives of thousands if not millions because he feels like doing it
Read about John D. Rockefeller with his Standard Oil or about the Sforza merchant family in Italy, having enormous political influence.
Elon lives in your head. He has very little power and has no business interests in Ukraines War
Seems like something Congress should be looking into. But they have more "important" things to investigate, like Hunter Biden ad nauseam.
Starlink service in Ukrainian was paid for by Ukraine and its allies this is not a free service he was letting them use despite his(musk's) propaganda.
The remedy is simple…stop buying his products…..hang on a minute…you couldn’t make it up.
His assets need to be seized for national security reasons
And deported or locked up
Do you think the DOD would allow him to switch it off without their permission
@@greamespens1460 I know the govt can claim he's causing a risk to national security and take control
But there are no national security concerns in Ukraine, if they were we would have troops on the ground.
...and you need to close your Twitter account to show you mean business...!
Not sure Elon really understands the danger of the game he's playing here. I wouldn't walk too close to a window if I were him
That’s exactly why he didn’t approve a last minute request to extend the reach of starlink in ukraine…
I'm certain the Russian government won't be wanting to push EM out of a window.
@@csharpe5787 Ukraine is known for its own hit squads. It's the most corrupt country in Europe and the has always been the epicentre of fascism.
I think the other commentators are unaware of how proactive Ukrainians when it comes to being nearby when people fall out of windows...
Is that a threat😂?
What about the British army illegally invading Iraq and murdering thousands.
'he's got more money than sense.." priceless coming from two clowns of limited understanding
Musk is MASSIVELY uninformed on current events. I would eager that you are very similar to him; you don't like observable reality, so you make up your own version instead and then just call everyone else dumb for not believing it .
Have a fantastic day.
he bought twitter to disrupt the public discussion
Can you elaborate on this?
@@mytube225
Could you?
I'd argue he did it because he is arrogant and opinionated and thinks he's better/smarter than he actually is. Thing is, he's a billionaire so if he has a terrible idea he can just make it happen.
Of course he's also insecure and needs his ego soothed so it's no surprise he doesn't like people making fun of him and criticising him.
So IMHO the disruption is just a side-effect.
He done it to save free speech and democracy in america
@@jordonbooman9913 Yes the previous owner didn't believe in free speech
😂🤡 whos the facists...🤡🤡🤡 O'Brien 😂🤡
If they cut it off without informing Ukraine, they intentionally killed any troops that died as a result.
Even if they had a right to turn it off, they had a duty to inform them well in advance.
Aww poor Nazis 😂
@@phil2806Sure bud, Ukrainians invaded themselves?
That satellite was not on, so therefore wasn't turned off. The condition was always to assist Ukrainian people with the satellites, not for use of NATO or the military.
can't believe you got 52 likes for that comment, it's not what happened. He never turned anything off.
Musk is a real life James Bond villain.
IQ 20
Lower
Hilariously if the last bond villain was based on Musk it would've been far better than we got. Closest was the Murdoch parody in the 90s
He's done nothing wrong. He's not fighting US war for them.
You dont get to sell your stuff and profit from war only to take your toys home when your bored.
Wish Roy from Bungay would call in,I don't agree.... goodbye!!
If Oppenheimer had been working for a billionaire, then what ? Maybe hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians wouldn't have been nuked ? You're usually very sharp, James, but you've lost me on this one.
How did a libertarian billionaire end up controlling the internet of a country. Shows the kind of world we live in. Crazy.
Libertarian? Who gets billions from the US government and buddies up to the Pentagon brass?
@JackRyan-ng1bo It is contracted by American military finances
@@matthewh6172No its not. Elon has told us many times. Starlink is private. Not US military owned.
Every billionaire had the same chance to implement similar solutions. They preferred to pay it to their mistresses instead.
and all satellites*
Also the satellites needed for ukrainian military coordination.
He thrives on attention, and the price of that is unlimited.
Yes James is aweful.
....and James just plays into his hands....😊
@@lamestreammedia3154wrong. James is great.
@@MrRailjunkie no you
James, you continually refer to others as "client media" for the political misrepresentation of others, however you're guilty of the same re:Corbyn. Corbyns policy was to get people around a table and end conficts. How do you think conflicts end? Oh yeah.... by getting around a table and negotiating.
It's almost as if one person having this much wealth, power and resources is a bad thing for humanity as a whole. Maybe we ought to, I dunno, tax these people?
You need to look into the recent history of the conflict, from 2014 on to understand why he would have decided to do this. Otherwise you're listening to the same people who told you lr@q had we@p0ns of m@$$ d*structl0n. There is a documentary called 'Ukraine On Fire' and it explains the reality of what has really been going on there. Its shocking and a lot of people may not be able to stomach it.
he paid the largest personal sum of taxes EVER in the history of the usa - billions when his options vested . that was like a year or 2 ago. so it's not about taxes.
@@ronblack7870 Ok. Then we shall eat them instead.
He's the one who made a show about 'sticking it to Russia' and then on a spineless whim he's all-of-a-sudden 'worried about nuclear retaliation' (which I do not buy for a second).
Quite the little weasel isn't he?
The only upside is that governments around the world will become incredibly allergic to doing any truly deep business with him because of such wishy-washy behaviour. (I pray)
"I don't wanna be part of this war so I'm gonna make a decision that directly effects said war and aids in one side's defense while continuing to communicate with that sides leader-"
For someone that is so successful, he ain't the brightest.
Elon, Trump, Putin. One brush same paint.
I still find it interesting that Ukraine being invaded is seen differently to the world in comparison to other countries being invaded.
And any idiot who cites any reason to say one human is better then another is just that idiotic.
It's not about human value, its about geopolitical consequences. Doesn't make it "right", just how it is.
MONEY JAMES MONEY! CAPITAL! CRAPITAL!! GET WITH IT!!!
Even more disturbing is that it seems that Elon has foreknowledge of Ukrainian plans and can give that information to the wrong people.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
- Elon Musk for President ? (move over Donald)....... Don't think it couldn't happen. Lord help us all.
James O'Brian needs to discuss a peaceful conclusion not blame Musk, he didn't start the war. He is just a E Musk hater it's embarrassing
Elon Musk is of no concern here, just his extreme and dangerous meddling in our government operations.
That is insane and should be stopped somehow.
@@michaelk.jensen1611 It's not government operations when the satellites belong to Elon. They were not to be used for military operations, that was always the condition
Elon Musk on Thursday acknowledged turning off internet access from his Starlink satellites during a Ukrainian raid last year on a Russian naval fleet.
He said he did so to prevent SpaceX from being “complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation.”
He only turned off access to Starlink over Crimean peninsula. The StarLink over Ukraine wasn't turned off.
Remember when he voluntarily turned on the Starlink over Ukraine.
When he did it he clearly said it's only for defense and communication purpose.
So, are you defending Lex Luther or attacking him…?
@@davidhodgson3901he is laying out the facts. And the facts defend Musk.
@@davidhodgson3901
You meant "Lex Luthor"?
You should come out of that imaginary world to understand the real world.
Tell me how much is 8³-8³÷8²= ?
Don’t start spouting facts - these people don’t like facts.
@@johnb2602
Thanks. Still, I feel a responsibility educating them.
Elon is saving humanity. He will keep the light of consciousness alive in the vast and cold universe. You just don't get it.
He can't even run Twitter or make functional cars.
ldiot.
Is that worth to cross red line?
Is He bluffing right now?
What about Nupe? Is he bluffing too?
Never to late until...
I think Elon Musk has worked out what’s really going on.
Is that what you “think” is it..? 🤡😂
O'Brien.... what a w, NKER 😂🤡
Pretty certain a billionaire wouldn't be wanting a tesla!
Why do so many American right wingers side with the Russians in this conflict? He has shown to be one of them and seems to share their ideologies so that may explain his behaviour
Lol james O'Brien Pearl clutching. Starlink was always a private enterprise from day one.
Musk competeted against many companies to get fcc funding for yhe project it was never a military thing.
If you only oearned about star link a year ago or today do your homework
Private enterprise funded by US military contracts...
@@jjboswell5043no mostly private but yes some public mostly FCC money.
But it's funny James O'Brian isn't talking about why there aren't peace negotiations with Russia.
If you think your business might have national security implications, surely you contact the authorities? Not make panicked decisions on your own.
Maybe extended delays to the 2nd launch of Starship might influence ? Enough Ukraine supporters cancelling Starlink subs ? Hit him where it hurts.
Hes already lost the value in twitter and everything he is doing is breaking the value there. His tesla cars are absolutely terrible, Billionaires aren't smart , they have just horded money.