Tony Franklin • Fretless Intonation Set Up • Plus Jamming

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  • @tawnyalee9317
    @tawnyalee9317 Рік тому +33

    You're like a bass instructor who doesn't charge for lessons ✌️😉

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +13

      I love to share it. Thanks

    • @Shred_The_Weapon
      @Shred_The_Weapon Рік тому +1

      That gives me ideas about showing people how they can learn to play with their fingers. Most guitar students never think about that, because they think the only way will ever be able to play is with a pick.

    • @jonbongjovi1869
      @jonbongjovi1869 Рік тому

      @@FretlessMonster You gotta do a Side Channel Project where you are a Bass Rock Star named "The Bass Instructor"..... (super-hero / mad scientist outfit?)....and each one of your SONGS is you teaching some bass thing!
      (The "lyrics" are you either singing or speaking your instruction!)
      (To catchy music!)
      (Did you see Charles Berthoud did a super-innovation that has not caught on yet: he put his annoying SPONSORED-BY ads......into a catchy little JINGLE! Everyone on T should do that!)

  • @devo43
    @devo43 2 місяці тому +2

    I've been a repair luthier for 20+ years, set up countless fretted basses and at least dozens of fretless, have built both from scratch... yet still appreciate your insights. Plus every note you play sounds awesome so it's totally worthwhile to check out your videos. Thanks Tony!!

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  2 місяці тому

      That means so much. Thank you!! 😊👍🏻

  • @liamb8624
    @liamb8624 24 дні тому

    I think this video has just saved me a fortune. I had just written to the team at Jaydee to ask them if they could line the neck of the fretless 5 they built for me when I was 23 back 1991 as now I am 57 I have fallen in love with it again and want to learn it properly. It never occurred to me to make sure that the intonation was spot on first before I invest time in getting my fretting hand working properly. Let’s hope the Jaydee team (RIP John) are too busy to respond about my request. Thanks Tony, loving this channel now that I have found it.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  24 дні тому

      Oh I love this comment!
      Yes proper intonation is super important on Fretless. It can save us a lot of frustration.
      You can always say to JayDee that I intervened! Haha 🤷‍♂️
      Yes, RIP John!
      Enjoy your Fretless journey!

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 Рік тому +13

    Very informative to learn from a class musician. Always appreciate it Tony.

  • @hammeron3056
    @hammeron3056 18 днів тому

    Tony, your fretless bass playing is pure magic! Every note is filled with emotion and mastery that inspires musicians around the world. Thank you for sharing your talent; your music brings incredible energy and uplifts the spirit. You are a role model and a true source of inspiration

  • @jkm1962
    @jkm1962 Рік тому +2

    I just bought my first fretless bass (after almost 50 years of playing) & I was wonder how to set-up the intonation, this video was very helpful & informative. Thank you very much Tony...

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому

      That’s great to hear. Glad it was helpful.
      If you have t seen it already check out my TrueFire Fretless instructional course. There are some free samples on the page also. 👏🏻👍🏻
      All the best truefire.com/bass-guitar-lessons/fretless-foundations/c1289

    • @MrBasslayer2
      @MrBasslayer2 3 місяці тому

      Take a tape measure and from the nut measure 43.2 centimeters and tie a fishing line at 43.2 centimeters, tighten the line and this way you can put each string in the correct intonation

  • @paulsimmons5726
    @paulsimmons5726 Рік тому +6

    Tony, your videos are always so entertaining and informative! Even when I think I’ve got a handle on something, you always say something that makes me see it in a different light!
    Thanks for sharing your experience, perspectives, and sense of humor!
    Take care!

  • @wjamyers
    @wjamyers Рік тому +1

    so kind of you to do this!! I was a little bit non-plussed trying to check the intonation of my stunningly gorgeous Tony Franklin Signature Fretless and so I looked up "how to intonate fretless" and here I find Tony Franklin himself telling us how... that's perfect! Thank you for this bass, good sir, when I pick it up it just feels thrillingly good, never mind the flawless tone.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +2

      What an amazing message. Makes me happy. Happy I could help. Have fun with your TF!!

  • @rsnell22
    @rsnell22 7 місяців тому +1

    One of the best posts on intonation. Spot on, sir.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  7 місяців тому

      I truly appreciate that. Thanks for watching!

  • @refbassist
    @refbassist Рік тому +3

    Thanks tony always something to learn from you checking other positions not just the 12 fret 😊 I’m using a card to fret on the 12th fret, learned that from Mark Egan 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @MEGAMIGA
    @MEGAMIGA Рік тому

    Love how your slightly unorthodox technique creates such a great, expressive sound!

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. I’ll stick with it then. 😂👏🏻 Can’t change now.

  • @thomasfioriglio
    @thomasfioriglio 2 місяці тому

    Good advice Tony. What I did was using a straight edge ruler, measure 17" from the middle of the nut and made a pencil mark on the fretboard for where the 12th fret would be. I did that for each string and then I used that as a reference point to set my intonation. With the 2 dots at the 12th fret I wasn't sure if my finger should go between them or if it was the dot closest to the bridge. I have it set so my finger is in the middle of the dot that is closest to the bridge. Then, as you did, I checked on the 5th, 7th and 17th frets for reference.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  2 місяці тому +2

      Very cool. Yeah that would work.
      It’s usually right in between the dots on the 12th.

    • @thomasfioriglio
      @thomasfioriglio 2 місяці тому

      @@FretlessMonster Between the dots on the 12th. Thanks Tony, that's good to know.

  • @michaelblaney4461
    @michaelblaney4461 Рік тому

    A very good explanation ,Tony.

  • @nitrogenbalance6103
    @nitrogenbalance6103 Рік тому

    I started fretless about a 1yr ago this is good stuff. Thank you! Such a valuable lesson and tool. I'll never forget. 10min gave such an understanding and I'll know this for a lifetime.

  • @Sannypowa
    @Sannypowa Рік тому

    Thank you for your lesson, Tony, you are amazing ❤

  • @luvyesmusici4886
    @luvyesmusici4886 Рік тому

    Most folks don’t have a clue when it comes to instruments, humidity, temperature, and even basic, and more complicated set-ups, and what is involved to get the right sound. ( Let alone the thousands and thousands of hours of dedication, and practice to make it just so. Usually clueless. All the majority of folks know is if it sounds like the record, or if it is bad, or really, really good.
    You probably take some basic notes about tunings on different basses, depending what you will be performing. Tony, you take any any other notes, or do you try to remember it all, or as much as you can? The more basses, the different types of basses certainly makes it all that much more interesting.
    Just saw a recent to me Jeff Beck video where he was going over some guitars, fretting, still, about exchanging his Yardbirds guitar to Floyd Rose, and the different guitars other musicians had given him. It was a good hit. You are always a great “hit”, my friend. I think I saw where you guested on another Frontiers album. I hope 2023 is a great year for you, and yours. :-)

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      Thanks as always!
      As with any craft, trade or art, once you dig deeper and go beyond the “big things”, it’s all about the fine tuning and subtleties. There’s a lot more to it than meets the eye. And that’s where the magic is made.
      Regarding notes and tunings, it varies. I love to take notes, though sometimes it’s pure feel and instinct. I like using both.
      Cheers!

    • @MainelyW212
      @MainelyW212 8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah… most folks are “clueless”…. At first. Jaco was obviously clueless when he bought his upright bass in Florida… and woke up the next day with it in pieces due to the humidity. Of course throwing the term “clueless” at a legend like Jaco would be considered off putting… and pretty much anyone else who is learning. It is our responsibility as advanced, educated and experienced musicians to “clue in” the “clueless”. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are potential virtuosos who were immediately discouraged because of a bad setup or poorly finished instrument. At the same time, there are famous artists whose action is so high ships pass under the strings and their main axe has a warped neck… completely “clueless”…. No theory.. just a bass, a pick and some pent up emotions…
      And neither way is wrong. 🙂😎

  • @dwaynewladyka577
    @dwaynewladyka577 Рік тому +1

    I really enjoyed this. It's quite interesting to see how fretless basses are tuned and played. Cheers, Tony! ✌️

  • @stein0niets
    @stein0niets Рік тому

    It is exactly the same way I do it and yes the action can definitely through it off sometimes. Also putting the finger in a relaxed fashion (as if playing a normal line, in the same angle and amount of pressure.. sometimes i check all fingers even on the 12th).

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому

      Yep!! Whatever gets it done (without pain) right? 👏🏻🤩

  • @Micouniverse
    @Micouniverse Рік тому

    Thank you very much.
    You and your videowork are wonderfull!
    🙏🏽🍀

  • @SteelTearsJulie
    @SteelTearsJulie Рік тому

    Ty, for the Jam and Informative Instructional fretless bass information. 💪🎸🎶✌️❤️

  • @joemacfern
    @joemacfern Рік тому

    Thank you master, precious information!!!

  • @paultraynorbsc627
    @paultraynorbsc627 Рік тому

    Thanks for sharing Tony amazing video

  • @Shred_The_Weapon
    @Shred_The_Weapon Рік тому +1

    I tried paying better attention to your tips about maintaining the intonation, Tony, but I was distracted by something. Before you picked up the ‘77 and it was in the background, I thought the fingerboard looked as reflective as a mirror or a clean window. Had me wondering whether you had put three or four separate layers of epoxy resin on it for protection. Have you done anything like that? *Would you do* something like that?
    You instruct via TruFire. Nice. Keith Williams of the Five Watt World channel recommends that teaching resource.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +3

      Thanks so much.
      Yes there is a light epoxy coating on the ‘77 Firm Fretless. My luthier put it on there 20+ years ago. We thought it may last a couple of years, but it held up very well.
      It was to “save” the fingerboard - as it was so thin, as you can see.
      It’s the only bass I’ve done it to, and it’s honestly not my preference, but there weren’t too many options. It’s rosewood, so it’s not as durable as ebony, which is on all my signature basses. I wouldn’t apply epoxy to ebony.
      TrueFire is great!

    • @Shred_The_Weapon
      @Shred_The_Weapon Рік тому

      Much obliged, Tony. It was on my mind, because I tend to play a lot of slab stuff. In ‘96 when I bought my first bass guitar, I was dissuaded from getting a fretless one. Then, I was told about how smearing the fingerboard of one with boat epoxy would protect the fingerboard from the backlash caused by the slapping.

  • @sprintbass
    @sprintbass 11 місяців тому

    I got white tape wound labella strings. I'm having a hell of a time with set up. I had the black ones and they were just fine

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  11 місяців тому

      Hmm. I find the tape wounds to be very specific. They either work or they don’t. I’ve used the DR Sunbeams for 30+ years now. Never an issue. Worth a try. Rounds, but gentler on the fingerboard. A little wear but nothing significant. The sound is the most important thing.

  • @pine3737
    @pine3737 Рік тому

    One should be able to set up their bass. BUT! with fretless one has to know how to set their bass up. Any change will change your sound. For example; on fretless I like the first fret on the fingerboard to have a tiny buzz on the A,D. and G string. fretless is a very individual instrument and needs to have it's action checked every time you play it. Very good tips on achieving intonation, the hardest setup part of a fretless for all the reasons you mentioned. As always thanks!

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      100% right on all that. Fretless is a different animal. The subtleties make all the difference. 👏🏻

  • @LeftiBassist
    @LeftiBassist Рік тому

    Waiting for my fretless to arrive. Can you recommend a good book for learning fretless?
    Love your playing. Thanks for the videos!

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому

      Thanks so much.
      I don’t know about books but I have a Fretless bass instructional course through TrueFire. It’s affordable and there are free samples! I’ve had lots of great feedback about it. Worth checking out.
      truefire.com/bass-guitar-lessons/fretless-foundations/c1289

  • @jamescoderre9595
    @jamescoderre9595 Рік тому

    Thanks Tony, I also use the 12th fret for reference as well as checking the intonation at other spots on the neck, ... I actually get a bit obsessive with it once I get going 😅 anyway thanks for this invaluable video that will help many in regard to intonation on a fretless bass 😀👍

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +2

      That’s great. Thanks. I think it’s okay to be a bit obsessive about this. The intonation is important - even though it can never be “perfect” - 🤷‍♂️😩😂

    • @jamescoderre9595
      @jamescoderre9595 Рік тому

      @@FretlessMonster So true Tony 😊

  • @АлександрСтафиевских-с5д

    Tony Franklin благодарю за рассказ об игре на ладовой бас гитаре осталось выучить английский язык. отлично показано про безладовую бас гитару. Всех благ Вам и здоровья.

  • @scottwhite2757
    @scottwhite2757 Рік тому

    interesting Tony Thank You !!

  • @ruthyates6324
    @ruthyates6324 Рік тому

    Intriguing what one learns what you in these videos , I do have what may seem a silly question . Have you or would you ever try using a slide on bass? Would it be a total bust or just take the fun out of it ? Truly curious . Do really enjoy seeing you cut loose and have fun with the videos and sharing , keep sharing that sweet smile ❤😊

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      I’ve never used a slide on bass. It doesn’t work so well. Plus on the Fretless, we can slide - without a slide! 😊

    • @ruthyates6324
      @ruthyates6324 Рік тому

      @@FretlessMonster grins ❤️

  • @seanm4124
    @seanm4124 Рік тому

    My TF P Bass will be here tomorrow! Black. Can’t wait!!

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      Wow. Congrats. That’s really exciting. Keep me posted.

    • @seanm4124
      @seanm4124 Рік тому

      @@FretlessMonster I love every part of this bass. Great job designing this! I would have replied earlier but I can’t stop playing her! What a great playing and sounding instrument!

  • @el.guitarmaniac295
    @el.guitarmaniac295 Рік тому

    I'd like to ask you a question - maybe that would be a suggestion for new video. What can you say about a tape-wound strings? Would it work on a fretted bass?
    Thanks for your video, cool as usual.
    Cheers from Kiev!

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your suggestion. I’ve been happily using the same kind of strings (DR Strings Sunbeams) for 30 years. So I have no idea about the tape wound strings unfortunately.
      The only way to find out is try them yourself. 🤷‍♂️🤩👏🏻

  • @humblegeorge
    @humblegeorge 5 місяців тому

    What a down to earth super cool fellow ! great teacher too ! Cheers Tony :>)

  • @manasbass
    @manasbass 6 днів тому

    Hello Tony Sir , i have question if you can reply plz. when you tune to 12th double dot position, are you tuning to between the dots or on the first dot.
    i am studying your course at truefire.. your amazing ! Bass Regards 🙏

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  3 дні тому +1

      Thank you so much.
      Yes you are correct. I tune the octave exactly between the dots.

    • @manasbass
      @manasbass 3 дні тому

      Thank you so much !

  • @stevegosney
    @stevegosney Рік тому

    Very interesting! Thank you for all your great content! Can i ask what video editing software you are using? You have taken great care in the still picture inserts in this video. Very professional!

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much. I’m just using the stock iMovie that comes an any Mac computer 👏🏻🤩

  • @mekagunner5786
    @mekagunner5786 10 місяців тому

    A Wizard of fretless ❤

  • @fedearanda9435
    @fedearanda9435 Рік тому +1

    Hey tony for a fretless bass it's better flat or round strings? i listen people says round strings can add more of that "mwah" to the fretless bass
    You can listen to pedro aznar bass if i can't explain well

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      I’ve always used rounds. I’ve never been able to get my sound from flats. Rounds are much more versatile. You get that mwah and punch, attack, and fullness.

  • @kevmac1230
    @kevmac1230 Рік тому

    The Fretless Monster, with great hair.🎸😆

  • @stevegosney
    @stevegosney Рік тому

    You can make tuning sound musical!

  • @MainelyW212
    @MainelyW212 8 місяців тому

    I wonder if a luthier could take the fingerboard…. And grab another piece of Rosewood or Ebony (or Purpleheart!)… and laminate the original fingerboard on top of the new wood? I can almost see the original fingerboard with the purple of the purpleheart acting as almost a binding.. as long as the original fingerboard remains unfinished, it should have the same tone… feel… just an idea😎

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  8 місяців тому

      I’ve inquired about it actually. Seems like it’s better to remove the rosewood and replace it completely. Thankfully the bass is currently holding up. If I was to do anything I’d replace the complete neck and keep the old one intact

  • @MrBasslayer2
    @MrBasslayer2 3 місяці тому

    Take a tape measure and from the nut measure 43.2 centimeters and tie a fishing line at 43.2 centimeters, tighten the line and this way you can put each string in the correct intonation

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  3 місяці тому

      Thanks. That sounds cool. I prefer to do it by ear and tuner though. 😊👍🏻

  • @klonieisland5455
    @klonieisland5455 Рік тому

    I like ur hair now Lol. U d man. U n jaco r the best. Think ur better.

  • @NikkieRoxxx
    @NikkieRoxxx Рік тому

    Bought my mikro 5 strings in fall 2020; didnt intonate it yet, i bend it if its out of tune...

  • @Lance37a
    @Lance37a Рік тому

    Like Frank said you do it your way.

  • @markgrimm3564
    @markgrimm3564 11 місяців тому

    tony what flat wounds are you playing

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  11 місяців тому

      I never play flats on my electric Fretless. Cannot get my sound. I’ve used DR Sunbeams for 30+ years.

  • @nate6692
    @nate6692 Рік тому

    The final harmonic on the intro - I've watched that clip a dozen times and I can't see where it gets tapped/pinched/anything other than the plucking finger and ummm 'fretting' finger.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому

      You are correct.
      I made a video to explain it here. 👍🏻🤩
      ua-cam.com/video/rZe9HOiLRTw/v-deo.html

    • @nate6692
      @nate6692 Рік тому

      @@FretlessMonster Ah - I neglected the possibility of an open harmonic being fretted. I've tried to get them on fingered notes but I just can't with a pick. Playing with fingers I can tap a stopped string, but not with a pick. (Which is frustrating considering how easy pinch harmonics are on guitar)

  • @tlc2011jlc
    @tlc2011jlc Рік тому

    What is your true fire bass university?

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому

      Oh it’s not a university. It’s a Fretless bass instructional course I released through TrueFire. Very affordable and some free samples to check out. 👍🏻😊
      truefire.com/courses/bass-guitar-lessons/fretless-foundations/c1289

  • @diegomoises82
    @diegomoises82 Рік тому

    I’ve got a fretless inspired by you.

  • @SourSnatch
    @SourSnatch Рік тому

    Rock On!!!

  • @bobpond6381
    @bobpond6381 Рік тому

    sharp=short=genius Ive always checked more than one harmonic but brain farted on which way to adjust.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому

      I understand! It took me a long time to figure something out!

  • @WimRijksen
    @WimRijksen Рік тому

    I always think of "a short sharp shock". Sharp means short, shocking huh? haha

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  Рік тому +1

      Haha. Whatever helps right?? 😂🤷‍♂️👏🏻

  • @bryanbahantka6969
    @bryanbahantka6969 Рік тому

    Flea with a wig?

  • @eljay2343
    @eljay2343 Рік тому

    Mustaine never played bass till now

  • @chriscuthbertson
    @chriscuthbertson Рік тому +1

    Sharp = Short, Flat = Far

  • @donharrold1375
    @donharrold1375 7 місяців тому

    I notice you use a lot of vibrato. Vibrato is the magic that helps to deal with intonation issues. Good players instinctively just push notes until they sound musical and in tune.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  7 місяців тому

      Thanks. I liken Fretless to the human voice. Very expressive, emotional and intuitive

    • @donharrold1375
      @donharrold1375 7 місяців тому

      @@FretlessMonster You're a super expressive player. The first time I heard Jelly Roll, my reaction was wow, what is that - it was a bass but not as I'd previously heard it. The smooth phrasing and melodic lines were on a totally different level. That whole album was fantastic (I remember listening to it when I was working as a kid in 89). It felt like a much more logical follow up to "87" than that terrible "Slip of the tongue" record.

  • @boblove2912
    @boblove2912 7 місяців тому

    You may as well just check your open note ( or 12th fret harmonic ) against the 17th fret position. There is only one intonation screw per string so you can only set it in one position. Its either right or wrong and you cant adjust it for different note positions up and down the neck. So you really are wasting your time with this method. I agree that using the 12th ( fretted ) position as a reference is not the key. Use a much higher position as its the higher positions that need the most compensation. So the outcome is the same but you can get there a hell of a lot quicker.

    • @FretlessMonster
      @FretlessMonster  7 місяців тому

      If that works for you that’s great. I like the extra check point. I “average” it out between them. Not a waste of time for me… so far 🤷‍♂️🤩👍🏻