That is how it should be. People need to prove they can climb. Although the rank reset is pretty dumb because as 2 rank resets have passed I did not play support for a year, but it shows if i did play I would get 1200 sr lower than what I last left off as.
There were a couple times, as a healer, I was cringing. If I could say there is one rule to support, it's this: if at all possible, keep your tank alive. And a few times, your tank was super low, you were right next to him and could have healed, but you were laser focused on getting a kill so you let your tank die. Other than that, yah man, you pretty much proved you don't need too many heals if things die fast enough ;-)
If you’re gm playing in plat that’s literally how you carry on support though. Why heal people who are objectively worse at killing people than you are. Just go kill the enemy yourself instead
if its between keeping your tan alive and winning the fight, you win the fight. illari doesn't have much non utility healing, so if you can hit the hs's while your pilon is down its always better to do that. please remember this guy is top 500 😭
Right now I’m thinking of 2 specific times where they were 5v5 and his own tank was like 50 hp. Wanted was standing right in front of him and the choice was aim left heal tank, aim right to do dps. Both times the tank died and only one of the two did he actually kill the target he sacrificed his tank for. If I have to chose a 4v4, I prefer to be on the side that still has a tank. Oh and the second time, which prompted the comment, he lost the fight and the match because of it. Watch after 16:12, as soon as the genji jumps in his LOS, his dps instincts take over and instead of booping himself towards his tank for protection and to hit him with the heal beam, he boops himself away and into a room for a 1v1.
@@CuriouslyContent that really irks me. if it's me and a support in a 2v1, all the support has to do is heal me and we both survive and get the kill. but so many go for the kill and they get it but I die
@@jacobj3491 I hear you. When I play Juno I sometimes get tunnel vision and it happens. I play tank too sometimes, so every time I do it, I can just hear the tank screaming in my head at me 😂
I feel like John forgets that he's a support while playing Illari and doesn't realise he can heal others much like Chopper when he says "Someone call a doctor, oh wait. I'm the doctor"
17:05 is a neat play, you hit the Kiri right before she could suzu so the sunstruck on her went off, hitting the soldier and activating his mark, getting them both killed. I want to get back to playing this hero as a washed up support enjoyer, I haven't placed yet in comp
I won all my tank placements as queen by a land slide but the damn game couldn't stop putting me in silver lobbies so I placed in sliver and quit, ppl tell me its cuz was fighting away from the point but brutha if im running queen or doom god forbid im on the point more then a Rein or a Orisa, this game is cooked.
While I do admit climbing now actually tells you how you rank up and thats amazing. Nothing pisses me off more than winning a game by the skin of my goddang teeth just for overwatch to say "Expected"
Honestly hilarious that you placed Plat 1 playing like you did, I placed on my ow1 alt account that started with a predicted of silver 4, and I finished placements in plat 1 while playing the only way I know how as a lucio 1-trick
😂 every dps player thinks their gods gift to support when they play illari because they hit everything, but your hitting your shots cause your bullets are fat as hell. She actually should have 60+ accuracy even if your not smurfing
Support placements / ranking are broken. I'm a Support main and got low gold this season in placements. Won 10 in a row and now am in high gold. Did my dps placements for a laugh and placed high plat. Make it make sense!
So from what i have experienced, having 5k damage and 10k heals is the perfect balance for ranking up as support fast. I believe this is because if you have too much damage, they won't give you as much rank because the match was too easy or it defaults to unfair match up. And if you heal too much it tells them your team were struggling. You could also for example have 10k damage and 20k healing. It's the ratio 1:2 that is important. I heard some other youtuber say this, and i tried working on it and it really helped.
those stats don't matter in climbing. all overwatch cares about is wins in the grand scheme of things. will they help? sure, buts its a very small margin.
Support players really upset in the comments when the whole point of the video is he is playing like a DPS on purpose lol giving him “tips” on what he should be doing on support is a waste of time 😂. Wanted has been a top player for years on OW of course he knows what a support SHOULD be doing but that isn’t the point of this content
It’s a good habit to throw it at someone if they’re out of ur range if it’s needed to win the fight/keep them up, it’s a situational thing obv u don’t wanna do that all the time
Illari is basically better Cassidy with self-healing,larger size bullet,higher clip size and lower damage fall off.That is why Illari can do more consistent damage than Cassidy. ua-cam.com/video/svsDuoOts5Y/v-deo.htmlsi=4h4OA2N0wtWfp8Tk
Yeah, it's likely because you're playing Support. Doesn't matter how much damage or elims you get, the game is theorizing that since you prioritize damage so much, you are a liability because you let team mates die too much. If team mates die too often, the game believes you are at fault because it's your job to keep them alive. No solid proof, but I theorize that this is why a lot of Support players are hard stuck in lower elos. Bad team mates that do nothing but feed and die (meaning they are also hard stuck because they don't learn from their mistakes), drags down their Supports by dying too much from being out of position or being unable to win duels. It's a double problem because of how the game matches people up, especially in the lower ranks.
@@kregman6928 Im pretty sure blizzard said this directly that it only counts win/loss against the other ranks, because any other metric would cause players to game the system and farm stats instead of playing to win.
You're a 'Support'. Do your actual job and HEAL instead of blatantly letting people die just because you want to DPS. There are characters for that, they're called DPS. Not Support/HEALER.
It’s true tho. Sure you can dps as support but ur not main dps?? Nothing annoys me more than dying when a support is right next to me just because they dps instead of heal. And I say that as a support main. It’s fucking annoying
Try with baptiste maybe that would be easier to get to gm
But that would be a bap to gm challenge not an illari to gm challenge
Baps new gun is a freaking headshot machine
He’s a cas main and Alari is rlly similar to cas
@@wesichi You are very fun at parties huh
@@puffins6601 Yes he is, he is a party animal.
They changed the amount you can climb on new accounts because of people slingshotting new peaks from some good placements
That is how it should be. People need to prove they can climb. Although the rank reset is pretty dumb because as 2 rank resets have passed I did not play support for a year, but it shows if i did play I would get 1200 sr lower than what I last left off as.
There were a couple times, as a healer, I was cringing. If I could say there is one rule to support, it's this: if at all possible, keep your tank alive. And a few times, your tank was super low, you were right next to him and could have healed, but you were laser focused on getting a kill so you let your tank die. Other than that, yah man, you pretty much proved you don't need too many heals if things die fast enough ;-)
If you’re gm playing in plat that’s literally how you carry on support though. Why heal people who are objectively worse at killing people than you are. Just go kill the enemy yourself instead
if its between keeping your tan alive and winning the fight, you win the fight. illari doesn't have much non utility healing, so if you can hit the hs's while your pilon is down its always better to do that. please remember this guy is top 500 😭
Right now I’m thinking of 2 specific times where they were 5v5 and his own tank was like 50 hp. Wanted was standing right in front of him and the choice was aim left heal tank, aim right to do dps. Both times the tank died and only one of the two did he actually kill the target he sacrificed his tank for. If I have to chose a 4v4, I prefer to be on the side that still has a tank.
Oh and the second time, which prompted the comment, he lost the fight and the match because of it.
Watch after 16:12, as soon as the genji jumps in his LOS, his dps instincts take over and instead of booping himself towards his tank for protection and to hit him with the heal beam, he boops himself away and into a room for a 1v1.
@@CuriouslyContent that really irks me. if it's me and a support in a 2v1, all the support has to do is heal me and we both survive and get the kill. but so many go for the kill and they get it but I die
@@jacobj3491 I hear you. When I play Juno I sometimes get tunnel vision and it happens. I play tank too sometimes, so every time I do it, I can just hear the tank screaming in my head at me 😂
I feel like John forgets that he's a support while playing Illari and doesn't realise he can heal others much like Chopper when he says "Someone call a doctor, oh wait. I'm the doctor"
Juno have this voice too
Like emongg says.. it's a better pulse bomb
I’m so proud of you already John, you’ve made it from Gold 1 to Plat 1! I really think you’ll make it to at least mid Diamond soon, you can do it ❤
13:58 looks like Wanted found a Numbers viewer in his game.
17:05 is a neat play, you hit the Kiri right before she could suzu so the sunstruck on her went off, hitting the soldier and activating his mark, getting them both killed. I want to get back to playing this hero as a washed up support enjoyer, I haven't placed yet in comp
Broooo the marvel vs capcom music what a nostalgic feeling, i love it!!
I won all my tank placements as queen by a land slide but the damn game couldn't stop putting me in silver lobbies so I placed in sliver and quit, ppl tell me its cuz was fighting away from the point but brutha if im running queen or doom god forbid im on the point more then a Rein or a Orisa, this game is cooked.
You're the tank. Regardless of what you play, the TANK is the one supposed to be the most ON point. Not the other way around.
While I do admit climbing now actually tells you how you rank up and thats amazing. Nothing pisses me off more than winning a game by the skin of my goddang teeth just for overwatch to say "Expected"
sonic unleashed music is GAS
Honestly hilarious that you placed Plat 1 playing like you did, I placed on my ow1 alt account that started with a predicted of silver 4, and I finished placements in plat 1 while playing the only way I know how as a lucio 1-trick
i think waking up takes longer today, like i saw a video where wanted was plat 1!
Yo wanted! Been watching for a while ❤
What is your sens and dpi?
KDA does not matter though. Its only wins
😂 every dps player thinks their gods gift to support when they play illari because they hit everything, but your hitting your shots cause your bullets are fat as hell. She actually should have 60+ accuracy even if your not smurfing
Whats ur peak again?
@ I’m masters 4 as Hanzo and I’m masters 5 as a zen one trick
Amazing video! I hope you get to GM 🙏
Yo that flash bang go hard haha
Support placements / ranking are broken. I'm a Support main and got low gold this season in placements. Won 10 in a row and now am in high gold.
Did my dps placements for a laugh and placed high plat. Make it make sense!
That can't be plat, where is the tank throwing after overextending and dying? Or the 005 widow typing shit in chat?
Because its plat
new ranking system moved everyone down by one rank those are likely ex diamond players
@girpblopmampo9059 I'm not sure. As I played six months ago with the same handicapped team on platinum, I'm playing now.
@girpblopmampo9059 not actually how it works there are videos you can watch explaining it so you aren't just lying to people
Nah that’s diamond. The widow in plat is the one that’s 40 and 0 with play of the game
Love all the foreshadow
Whos overwatch and how did you proved him wrong?
this vid is would you rather have a good third dps or 2 ok supports
no way bro is using limbus company music
I think I'm gonna try to learn Illari now XD
So from what i have experienced, having 5k damage and 10k heals is the perfect balance for ranking up as support fast. I believe this is because if you have too much damage, they won't give you as much rank because the match was too easy or it defaults to unfair match up. And if you heal too much it tells them your team were struggling. You could also for example have 10k damage and 20k healing. It's the ratio 1:2 that is important. I heard some other youtuber say this, and i tried working on it and it really helped.
As someone that has farmed many accounts, THE most important aspect is winning the quickplay games, stats dont affect your mmr nearly as much.
It's so annoying that i don't just get your video when they come out.
there is a reason why it is a support char, having damage is just one vertex of the triangle, you will need heals, players saved and assists to climb.
just a little touch of heal to critical allies gives u one player saved.
those stats don't matter in climbing. all overwatch cares about is wins in the grand scheme of things. will they help? sure, buts its a very small margin.
no you dont thats fals information
Support players really upset in the comments when the whole point of the video is he is playing like a DPS on purpose lol giving him “tips” on what he should be doing on support is a waste of time 😂. Wanted has been a top player for years on OW of course he knows what a support SHOULD be doing but that isn’t the point of this content
ok maybe i'm only halfway through but bruuuuu u gotta put pylons out of enemy LOS
It’s a good habit to throw it at someone if they’re out of ur range if it’s needed to win the fight/keep them up, it’s a situational thing obv u don’t wanna do that all the time
Track at 17:00, anyone?
She does have a ult ... unlike cass
I Got Placed in Gold so I Proved Overwatch Wrong... by placing in Plat
ily2 ❤️
Is it even possible to climb solo queing these days 😂
Illari is one of the best supports, really want to get better at her
Bap is just better. Illari has taken a few nerfs as of late. She ok if you have good aim but bap just does more
Push is a awful gamemode and losses or wins on it shouldn't count anyways
Illari is basically better Cassidy with self-healing,larger size bullet,higher clip size and lower damage fall off.That is why Illari can do more consistent damage than Cassidy. ua-cam.com/video/svsDuoOts5Y/v-deo.htmlsi=4h4OA2N0wtWfp8Tk
she got nerfed after this lol
i thin you actually would have won that one placement if you had healed you hog that was ulting in front of you. got lost in the sauce homie lol
Pretty much
Bro stop spamming and charge your shoots 💀😭
Yeah, it's likely because you're playing Support. Doesn't matter how much damage or elims you get, the game is theorizing that since you prioritize damage so much, you are a liability because you let team mates die too much.
If team mates die too often, the game believes you are at fault because it's your job to keep them alive. No solid proof, but I theorize that this is why a lot of Support players are hard stuck in lower elos. Bad team mates that do nothing but feed and die (meaning they are also hard stuck because they don't learn from their mistakes), drags down their Supports by dying too much from being out of position or being unable to win duels. It's a double problem because of how the game matches people up, especially in the lower ranks.
not how mmr works. exclusively win/loss related. OW1 was like this below diamond but above diamond it was also just win/loss
@@kregman6928 Im pretty sure blizzard said this directly that it only counts win/loss against the other ranks, because any other metric would cause players to game the system and farm stats instead of playing to win.
Asian kran
There’s no way you look at your stats on the Runesapi game and say you’re in plat.
im pretty sure support placements rate on deaths, assists and healing, maybe players saved
damage
nope, exclusively win/loss.
@@kregman6928 true
@@kregman6928 true
im tryna play you in my gold bby
You're a 'Support'. Do your actual job and HEAL instead of blatantly letting people die just because you want to DPS. There are characters for that, they're called DPS. Not Support/HEALER.
I bet you’re fun at parties
It’s true tho. Sure you can dps as support but ur not main dps?? Nothing annoys me more than dying when a support is right next to me just because they dps instead of heal. And I say that as a support main. It’s fucking annoying
i genuinely hate this. i hate sups like you on my team that dont heal.
dude he's carrying LMAO
@ literally letting his team
Die in front of him refusing to heal them.
You're so dumb. You don't understand the game.
No views in 1 minute? Wanted really fell off smh 😒
Overwatch in general did.