Why did Disney do what they did with Haunted Mansion?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Why July? Why Virtual Queue? How long do we have to tolerate this situation? How the heck do I get a virtual queue anyway?!?
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That entire corner of the park is basically offline. They needed to get something up and running, especially something with a very high ride capacity.
I just don't understand whos idea it was to do all those projects in the same area all at once lol just seems foolish and not very good management. Splash, haunted, pooh, critter country, jamboree. Why all at once lol
@archangelthj tiana's forced them to close critter country which forces them to close pooh, and haunted mansion's lack of queue was causing serious issues
@@archangelthj It's for the 70th next year. Also, this time of year is refurb season pt. 2 as all the kiddos are headed back to school soon.
@@archangelthjthe Olympics are being held in LA in 4 years and they’re definitely trying to put new stuff in to compete with Universal before then
i'm sure they know what they're doing, if its offline its because its not open. hope this helps karen
What happened to the days when you would drive to the park, pay your admission, go in, buy tickets to ride rides, and that was that? All this online and cell phone stuff with apps, Genie+, lightning lanes, Fast Pass, virtual queues, Disney Dollars, reservations, and all this other garbage is ridiculous!
Once a month they should operate the park for a Tues. through Thursday as "Simple Days" where all the reservation systems are turned off and you can just visit like the old days. You know, the old days *after* ticket books! I think it would be very popular and very interesting.
What happened? Uh.. about 45 years. That happened. Thing's change.
@@Satrina777 Things do change. Drive-in movie theaters, bowling alleys, theme restaurants, video game arcades, circuses... Forms of location-based entertainment go away. There's nothing about theme parks that makes them immune to extinction, and the "changes" they are making could accelerate that happening.
Oh…over 4BILLION additional humans on the planet…that’s all. People want to go out. Enjoy. Yup, it’s rough. And Disney can adjust however they want.
They COULD make the day rate $2000 and cap the crowds. 🤷♀️
Buy tickets for rides?? Um that I was ok with them doing away with. But fast forward to just buying your ticket or season pass and just head in. There were fast passes if you wanted other than that it was simple and fun. They charge way too much for admission now .
I watch you because of your optimism. If the fan reaction to change is always negative, then Disney will not notice when fans complain about something actually bad.
Haunted Mansion "Holiday" IS actually bad.
The COURT of ANGELS at night was a vibe that is sorely missed.
The fountain is worth savoring- it’s a win.
Yes indeed! Any "Conceptual Continuity" is a WIN!
I sure hope it gets water tho!
They ruined the fountain and you think that’s a win? It’s never going to have water ever again.
@@Equilibrium-pt7xj Kind of feeling pessimistic with you, but let’s hope.
@@lcflngn or it could remain eerily, oddly dry. Then Columbo comes by, investigates and finds a body buried beneath. ;)
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"a mass of humanity" has to be the best way I've ever heard to refer to a crowd of people lol
The only thing that bothers me is the lack of proper shade in the queue. It’s Southern California! It gets up to the 110’s!!!
They need to keep shade much more seriously at Disneyland and at WDW in Florida. I went to Epcot in July in 2022 and it felt like Disney didn’t care if we lived or died 😝 No misters, fans, shaded queues, etc.
@@geofferypmeyers exactly! I was at California Adventure a couple years ago, in line for the Monsters Inc. ride. The entire outdoor queue is just straight sunlight! Absolutely no shade whatsoever!!! And the people next to us in line had to leave because someone got heatstroke, and then I ended up with the worst sunburn in my life. The fact that Disney doesn’t take proper shading seriously makes me sad, if I’m being honest
I think i'm in the minority in that I prefer and like the normal Haunted Mansion better than their Nightmare Before Christmas theme
Hate the holiday overlay that lasts 5 months. Original haunted mansion has the real Disney magic! Wish they’d just upgrade the original animatronics and maybe add some of the original spooky displays like the candle man, etc. that were envisioned but never realized! Nightmare is just too cartoony to have that spooky feeling that I love so much about the original mansion.
i've commented before about how much i loathe the overlay - it removes all the magic for me - though it could be because i am 54 and remember my October birthday every year at Disneyland including the OG version. I think Disney could get away with doing the overlay every other year as a special thing and nobody would complain.
I detest the overlay
I think the biggest issue is pushing NBC year round, to the point Jack Skellington and crew are even more inescapable than Mickey Mouse and friends. Their imagery is everywhere even out of season, and simply flares up during the tail end of summer.
Now this overlay which would usually run from mid September to early January is taking up most of the year. Summer isn't even halfway done at the time they opened this, and they are feeding the trappings of an autumn and winter holiday.
I am with you on that
I generally try to be very positive, however I feel Disney has really screwed guests this summer. So many closures all at once. This is the season when there are more out of town guests. I feel bad for them, paying for full price tickets, and having so many closures and even entire areas all at one. That just causes major long lines and congestion everywhere else. To add to all the closures and confession, if I am not mistaken the train and Space Mountain close tomorrow. Our family is getting more and more frustrated with Disney.
Ours too! Ugh! 😠
Anyone who pays full price for a place that is offering discounts (as low as $50/day) is simply their own worst enemy.
We just learned the train, mortal and Indiana Jones will be closed when we visit in September. We are only going to the park for one day so I hope it is still enjoyable with all the closures.
@@ScanFan_Ed I canceled our California vacation over all of the closures this summer. Going to wait for a fully operational park before I bring my family cross country.
@@ScanFan_Ed I do agree it is bad for vacationers, no doubt. I remember when a family member went to DCA during the massive re-do.
But…. These are long projects and there is just no way they can be done without impacting guests. But I get it……
Dave, thank you for keeping your positive attitude and view towards Disneyland. Many of us choose to follow you for that reason. I have the greatest respect for you. Please never change and stay out of the dark place that many choose to go. We love you because of your bright light and I hope someday to meet you and tell you that in person. 😊
I don’t believe the initial reason was for ADA compliance, as the attraction is grandfathered in. I think that Disney desperately needed to fix the queue and add gift shop. There is a valuation threshold for all remodels/additions and the work Disney was proposing exceeded that number, once passed requires you to bring the project into compliance with current bldg codes.
Thank you; I believe you are correct.
Ithink Disney needed a better flow for ADA. They want to stop send people back up and out.
Yeah, it seems that if they were being forced to be ada compliant, they'd have to do the same with everything else that currently isn't. Big thunder, space MTN, all fantasy land, etc.
The semi-jam up outside HM now reminds me of the much worse jam up they had at the base and entrance of PoC for years. Before they built the crossover bridge it was like Times Square, crowded with people who either did or did not want to ride pirates, trying to sort themselves out. That bridge is/was such an ingenious relief!
It’s so smart. I can’t imagine that area without it!
@@geofferypmeyers yeah, it was pretty awful. Then the lightbulb 💡 dawned. ;).
I often wonder how different this attraction would be if Walt had lived.
I often wonder how different the whole park would be if Walt lived longer
He wouldn't have settled.
Good question! My guess: HM would be similar or the same. Walt was very involved with the planning of Haunted Mansion, as you may know. I think he'd like the balance between somber/ dark in the first part and more lighthearted in the cemetery scene to the end. Pirates, which he was also heavily involved in, follows the same formula: spooky, dramatic, mysterious in the caves, then more humorous in the town scenes. Harder to guess what Walt would have thought of Haunted Mansion Holiday. But he probably he would have liked Tim Burton's movies.
Sounds like a fun hobby. What do you decide? And why do you wonder often? Is your conclusion different at times?
@@brianbennett9478 I think it would have been very similar just because even before he died he had 3 very diverse Imagineers coming up with ideas for it. And I sure the Doom Buggies would have been there being it was a technology that came about when he went alive.
No. They’re celebrating Christmas in July!
Thank you as always for keeping us informed! Some of us, probably a lot of us, don't get the privilege of being in the park maybe once every other year or so. I dearly love Haunted Mansion and decided not to come till it was open again!
Well... it's now open... so see ya real soon!
People forget this isn't even the first time they've ripped out this queue and redone it. I'm actually eager to see a fancier queue with more stuff to look at. If you're going to be stuck in line for an hour and a half, who doesn't want some eye candy and Easter eggs? I do regret that ADA people won't get to ride back up in the portrait elevators anymore, that was always a fun bonus on my end. But I guess it does sort of break the illusion.
Part of the fun and draw to a theme park is literally “omg, that ride is so fun let’s get back in line and do it again!” And they’ve taken that away.
And what happens on the days it rains a tiny bit and the entire park clears out? Those days are my favorite because you can do a ride over and over because there are no lines. Or, there are times when lines are short and you can hit thunder mountain three times in half an hour. Stupid move Disney. Makes me not even want to go now.
Understood, but Holiday Haunted Mansion sucks. Just leave it the regular Haunted Mansion year-round.
Not only that, it isn't even either holiday season at the time they opened this up, and they will be running it most of the year. Let it at least be autumn first.
Couldn't agree more
“More fun and enjoyable than… hating everything.” 🤣 Well said!
I know you work for yourself but Disney should pay you for this Public Service announcement. Why don't they explain things upfront?
I think most locals and passholders who go often know the yearly schedule for HM. So they know it made sense to re-open now with the holiday overlay.
They do. Nobody can be bothered to read anymore.
Reading is so important and unfortunately MOST PEOPLE can’t be bothered to read before they go. It’s not Disney’s fault. LOVE FRESHBAKED videos
While watching your video I couldn't help but think what a mess and confusion is at Disneyland. Take me back to the 60s and 70s, that’s when Disneyland was great. Interesting and informative video. Thanks
everyone feels this way about their own childhood. to me disneyland was best in the 90s. it's just nostalgia glasses.
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💯 true! But I think we can ALL agree that it started going 📉 and then to 💩 really from 2010 (ish) on...
@@gerin.6418 well, so did the whole world 😅
@@juliannemarieb Has nothing to do with nostalgia or childhood, the park was better, the people going to Disneyland were better, nicer people, the cast members were kinder, happier and more polite, the people running Disney were better, they cared about the Walt Disney heritage. David Smith who ran the Disney Archives was fantastic. They had Fantastic special events, they gave away cars, I could go on for hours but not enough time. Thanks
If Disneyland wants something open in time, they will get it open in time. They have all the resources to do so. I have no idea why they are lagging on this haunted mansion project
Tell that to Universal, whose Ministry of Magic Harry Potter ride at Epic Universe is reported to be behind schedule and won't be ready when the rest of the park opens next year. Sometimes adding resources to a project that's behind schedule won't get it back on schedule.
They aren’t lagging, everyone knew it would take this long.
So you know what the time frame was??????? How do you not know that January was not their planned time? Do you know that?
@@anthonypecorara Exactly!
@@anthonypecorara Disney isn’t lagging on something?? BAHAHAHA
"Embracing what we have, instead of worrying about what we've lost." An attitude that serves us well even outside of Disneyland. 🥰
Fresh baked!!! Still waiting for the time I go to Disneyland and see you walking around. One day
I live in Northern California and only go about once to twice a year and I have run across him 3 times since the knot hole days. I have also heard that he is awkward in person due to several personality quirks. I just wait until his phone is up then yell Fresh Baked from a few yards away.
@@mikewiltse5685 Dude, your second sentence is pointless and hurtful for no reason, it's not even a comment about something you experienced but something you just "heard." You ought to edit and delete it to be a decent human.
@@DrStarlander it's not meant to be hurtful, or mean. I can dig up threads on here for you, and video from David. His Freshbaked persona is much more out going than he is in person. When he is in the parks for FB he is focused on what he needs to do, not on the random people interrupting him. More often than not when he is interrupted he handles it really well, but he also responds significantly less well, which I have also seen video of. I'm not saying he is mean at all, it just appeared in the video he was busy was focusing on work and someone was trying to talk to him. Imagine you're at work, focusing on something and people interrupt you. It's often hard to deal with. Personality quirks may sound rude to you, I didn't mean that as rude, just a fact of life. We all have quirks, whether we admit to them or not.
on the non locals getting confused about the virtual queue I can agree with that. I recently had my first trip since early 2018 and while I was able to figure out how to get fastpass and use photopass, I never figured out how to get a World of Color virtual queue over a 5 day trip
Get this... my old neighbor drove down to Disneyland from out of town with her family of 8 not knowing that they needed to get a reservation first... she just expected to walk up & purchase tickets like the good 'ol days... let's just say after making the looog drive down they found out there were no reservations available that day... & you can only imagine what happened next! 🤯😲😳😱🤣
Yeah, agree 💯... it can very confusing & extremely frustrating! 😤😫 Not to mention, who wants to be on their phone all day dealing with stressful BS & an annoying, antiquated APP... especially when you're paying a fortune do so! Ugh! 🙄 We're supposed to be enjoying ourselves! 😏
@@gerin.6418 oh I can imagine. I still don't understand why they haven't set aside a set amount of same day in person tickets/reservations for the people who come in and had no clue it was needed. They have to have historical data for how many people that would have been on any given day.
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Yeah 💯... it would just make things sooo much easier for sooo many people... it's really a shame! :(
I’m a non local that has spent close to 10 months planning and researching for our vacation. If I’m spending tens of thousands of dollars you better believe I’ll know every tip and trick in the book!
As someone who has grown up with the newer version of the parks, I can definitely say that I miss the times I can barely remember. Not only was it cheaper (by A LOTTT) but everything felt fresh and new with the Disney world fantasy land expansion in the early 2000s-2010s. I want to get to Disneyland one day, but this whole re-do is kinda confusing 😅
I wish they would allow you to book 2 virtual queues per day. We were bummed that we couldn’t get a second booking.
Agree! There have been glitches in the system where it has allowed you to do so, but that seems to be totally random thus far...
Yes! Especially when splash/Tiana, pirates and other rides are down. And it broke down during our time!
I hope that when the queue opens they take away the virtual queue because that would be really weird if they kept it.
isn’t that the whole point
That's literally thr point???
@@ducksfan_1149 No, the point was to be ADA compliant. They could keep the virtual queue up, and simply have the virtual wait extend into the new queue space instead of some makeshift queue area in front of the ride. I mean the Tron ride is still a virtual queue, as is Guardians, and Tiana's (all in WDW), but they do have actual queue space for guests too. That said, I don't think the demand for HM will be quite so large so as to require that when the new queue reopens.
@@Mike__B so you just talked yourself into agreeing with me, lmao.
@@ducksfan_1149 Not really, I don't think there will be a virtual queue because I don't think there's that much of a demand for the ride when the new queue opens up, not because of the new queue.
Runaway Railway and Rise of the Resistance both have queues people stand in today, but they opened with virtual queues due to huge demand for the ride. And only left virtual queue because the demand dropped, not because they got some new queue space.
Another chance to ride Haunted Mansion! Yaay! 🎉 Thanks, David
They need the Haunted Mansion open because of multiple ride closures coming up elsewhere. The Train, Monorail, and Indiana Jones are closing for an indefinite time and without HM, they’d have some bigger crowd problems.
Indiana Jones is closing from Septemvber 9th to 14th. That‘s what the Disneyland App is saying. ✌️
Not just crowd problems. People will not want to come with so many closures. As a new magic key holder this year I feel a bit ripped off because of so many rides closed down, but I can't complain too much since I do have a magic key and hope everything will open before my magic key expires next year
@@nandoginkaku7610 What are magic keys going for these days? I feel silly complaining about the AP prices back in the 90's seeing where things have ended up these days 🤪
And with Splash still being closed for its reskin along with winnie the pooh. These massive closures are deplorable
@@gkellogg I believe all of these updates are in preparation for their 70th Anniversary Celebration next year.. Although Universal is opening EPIC next year... Disney might have thought the only way to compete is to upgrade, retheme and offer differences to famous attractions to attract all of the EPIC travelers. And with their 70th? It all seems to fit together.
We start seeing Christmas stuff in September (I think Costco starts inserting Christmas deco in August) so why no Halloween in July...almost August. I think they can put lines anywhere, when Indiana opened, the lines used to fill up that tight space in Adventureland and it would spill into Main Street/Adventureland gateway. Disneyland is so complicated now, I used to like just showing up with my (anytime) pass on any day and go in the park(s) and experience the attractions I want, when I want. I can only imagine how complicated this is for seniors that want to bring their grandchildren and experience this chaos.
Since you have to do everything of meaning through your phone these days, you better bring some auxiliary batter packs to keep your phone charged up. Yeah! Just what I want to focus on when I'm at a theme park!
So freaking stupid.
It’s frustrating because we have to make reservations and if we want to make dinner plans it’s NUTS trying to figure it out! We’re in our 70s and maneuvering around the Disneyland web page it’s sometimes not worth the hassle. We miss the days when we didn’t have to have reservations to go to the park!
Agree 💯
Agree 💯
My grandmother took her great-niece to Disneyland a while back and it was so hectic that she said it will probably be her last time going. (Niece had fun though)
Nope. Still salty about Court of Angles.
I love A Nightmare Before Christmas.
I love The Haunter Mansion ride.
I hate the A Nightmare Before Christmas/Haunted Mansion ride overlay. It totally ruins something classic, iconic and original.
I agree! I think they should just do a permanent nightmare before Christmas ride somewhere else in the park, and leave the Haunted Mansion alone!
The virtual queue isn’t that bad. And after 11:30pm on Sunday night they were letting anyone in no reservation since the park was pretty dead that late.
Good to know!!! Thanks!
This all just seems too difficult now.. queue, lightening, etc… for rides. What would someone do if they are elderly and don’t even have a cell phone? They wouldn’t even be able to get onto this ride!
One thing I noticed coming to DL from WDW was how queue lines are handled differently. In Fla you’re always told fill in all available space. You’re crammed no floor space to be seen. In California it’s like single file and lots of arm space. So DL lines run into the walkways. You rarely see that in Fl. One time in the train depot at NO square I was yelled at for cutting line. Nobody was in the station just a few people so of course I was like why aren’t yall moving up there’s all this space. After that I noticed in many queues people just not moving up
Probably because social distancing was a thing in California whereas weird GOP Floridians don’t believe in covid so cram themselves up close and personal.
The pit is still open. The only thing they done so far in the pit is the foundation. The two restrooms, castmembers break room & ADA elevator hasn't been built yet. A long way from being finish
Is this reliable info
I'm one of those who is glad and was so happy to see that they kept the fountain that was in Magnolia Park. I remember being one of those in line for Haunted Mansion when they had to use Magnolia Park as part of the extended queue.
Wow , I just don’t see the Magic in Disneyland any more. You have to be on your phone all day. You have too buy tickets before you can make a reservation for the day you want to go without knowing if that day is available, then if you get in there is no guarantee you can ride anything you want , or worse your child that wants to ride something. Not to mention the up charging. Everything the fans hated Chapec for , Iger has continued. He is driving the whole company into the ground from Parks to entertainment. Fast pass was flawed but it was more fair to all the guests
lol - Iger started all the things that people hated Chapec for - that's Iger's biggest trick. Chapec was a patsy.
Sounds to us like you should stop visiting this awful place.
You buy tickets for the day you want to go, so you know it wont be sold out when you arrive. And then just dont be on your phone at all at the park? The only thing I really ever do on my phone is mobile order some food or check wait times and make sure something is open before I walk across the park.
@@WindowtotheMagic Who is "Us" you do not represnt this channel. You're just a annoying person in the comments section that simps so hard for a place that has obviously slipped in value, fun, and avaiablitly to a lot of people. The place isn't the same and you're paying way toio much for what's offered there at the moment and if you can't see that you probably have an attiction problem. Stop Hi-jacking this channels comments. You're ruining something that someone else worked really hard to build. It's obvious you have no skill at attracting people over to your channel so the problem is right in the mirror for you. Le.ave this poor people alone.
i grew up with 80s Disneyland, i loved it so much I would get sick! it's really sad to see what disneyland has become, the magic is gone.
FreshBaked. David, Nice to see a busy day at the Haunted Mansion. I for one think the new additions to this part of the gardens has been very nicely done. On opening day in 1969 the queue went all the way to the west side of Main St. We don't talk about it very often, David. But to this day the loss of the "COURT of ANGELS" still touches a raw nerve and leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. I wish Disney could restore to us a little bit of it, anywhere. Inside the new "Splash" is a starter. Cheers, Chris Perry.
David, I want it to be a work lit fountain ⛲ again. There is no reason they can't. If they want to.
They certainly could yes
There's a good chance that the fountain is dry now due to the construction
The Nightmare overlay was never removed when the attraction closed in January 2024.
The attic and graveyard scene is completely rebuilt though.
Correct!
That technically means this is probably the only year were we had the Hunted Mansion Holiday overlay all year long.
Don't you mean they shouldn't be celebrating *Christmas* in July? The regular Haunted Mansion is basically always celebrating Halloween. NBC, on the other hand is definitely a Christmas attraction, albeit a Halloween version of Christmas.
Halloween attractions should start no earlier than Labor day and Christmas attractions should start no earlier than November.
Why people keep giving Disney their hard earned money for garbage in return boggles my mind. The park experience is horrible nowadays. Seems like everything's virtual and complicated and near impossible to do without having the annoying app...not to mention the ridiculous cost for everything even though there's always a bunch of rides and attractions shut down constantly. Nostalgic Disney 'magic' is no more at both the the parks and screen. Will not be going back unless some miraculous company-wide overhaul happens. Good luck to all you no-matter-what park goers.
What you say is true, and I have asked myself why I have to go every year. I have not come up with a really good answer yet. Maybe because I have been going there since it opened. I remember a Disneyland when there was only the one, Disneyland. When it didn't have all the fancy rides, but was good Family fun, and we kids just loved it, although most people didn't go very often. But when we did it was like stepping into another World, where you truly would forget the outside World was there. When Walt was alive you never never saw the Backstage, Cast Members never walked outside the area they worked in in Costume, now you see them in the Parking Lots. There was a Dress code and it was enforced, now you see girls/Women half naked, if you saw a Dog in the Park it truly was a Service Dog now a pet because someone wouldn't leave it at Home, because their "Baby" would be lonely and call it a "Service Animal". In short a time when People had some Morals, Manners, & just had the ability to follow rules. Walt himself had Morals and the garbage that Disney pulls today, he would never have done. So, I can't really tell you why I still go, but I get a feeling of missing the place, we only go once a year now, I can't take the people, etc. more then that. I guess, sadly, I too am a "No-matter-What person" as well. Thanks for the Good Wishes !
I'll just say it... I'm disgusted and sick of the continual closures in the park. They've been doing this for too long. Close the park for 6 months and get it done all at once! I don't remember this continual redoing of rides growing up. Just in the last 20 years, they won't give it a break. It's been forever since I recall a park experience without barriers and closures. I miss those wonderful days.
Universal took advantage of the COVID shutdown to do maintenance and build new attractions. Disney completely wasted that time. 😢
They would lose so much money completely closing the park for 6 months. Sure it would be more convenient for guests but guests also still go during all the closures. So of course leave the whole park open. Just check when they’re at less closures going on when you plan your trip.
Actually it did happen the same way, the difference was years ago there was really “off-seasons”. Summer, Christmas (Thanksgiving to right after New Years) spring break (which was a much more specific time years ago) and the usually holiday weekends were “on-season”. Halloween was basically a few decorations, nothing major.
Now there is really no off-season but summers are no longer the biggest on-season, it is now Halloween through New Years. So that is why there is more done during the summers than years ago.
It’s funny how folks complain when there is nothing new being done at Disneyland, but then complain when it is! And no, they are not going to close the park for months do get it done. Then what happens a couple years later when another major project happens? Close the park again? 😂
They had the “pandemic” time to solve these problems. Workers could’ve worn masks and gotten a lot done. A year of maintenance with no visitors would have been great. Disney blew it..again.
@@davidhalcon5594 I worked as a custodian during Covid, and my buildings were sparkling clean with no one else in them!
I miss Splash Mountain
Me too! Rip Splash
Wait until you ride TBA... we rode it last weekend and it's WONDERFUL!
It might be nice, but it's not Splash Mountain & people just miss the overall vibe of SP... and the sense of suspense that's lacking from TB, unfortunately! 😒
@@WindowtotheMagicI’m looking forward to it! Hopefully it’s ready when I make it back to Disneyland in mid-November, but I’d rather they take their time to get it right instead of opening prematurely.
@@WindowtotheMagicBayou Adventure is a piece of junk compared to Splash Mountain.
I wholeheartedly appreciate and share your positivity!! ❤ Thank you for being you!!
This was a great vlog, informative and helpful. Thank you. But I’ll never get over the closure of court of angels. ;(. Such a wrong, unfeeling move. They cut off a beautiful part of NOS.
It would be nice if they would open the Court of Angels back up to general guests every once in a while for a special treat to acknowledge its history and once a memorable part of the New Orleans Square experience.
I think they also wanted to be open in time for the D23 Expo, this coming weekend. People travel from all over the world to attend.
Glad our kids are grown. Took them on one last trip this past summer because they were too little to remember the last time they’d been. The Genie system is a money grab. I liked it better when they did the fast pass. At least then everybody only had to buy a ticket. Now Disney charges you to get in the park and if you want to hit more than 6 rides in a day you have to pay more to get the Genie pass. What a racket. Then if you’re just standing in line they let three quarters of the Genie line in to every one quarter of people who don’t pay extra for the Genie pass.
Im still of the mindset that if they just removed the inside holiday overlay while the ride was already down and opted to bypass the 2024 HMH overlay for 1 year (due to it being a complete construction zone), when it opened in July it could have stayed the original HM until it needed to be changed for the 2025 holiday season.
Why are you still of that mindset, since it's clear that it is not what is occurring? Is there a benefit?
I am aware its not occurring. The video footage spoiled it for me. I think there could of been a benefit if they had removed the HMH overlay when it was closed. They wouldn't have to close it in January for 2 weeks.
@@WindowtotheMagic Oh my god. you're still the most annoying person in the comments section. This guy has an opinion... it's valid. He phrased it how he wanted to. Shut your mouth and stop being annoying. No one is ever going to care about your podcast.
I can't believe I missed you again, Dave. My family and I were there that day and rode The Haunted Mansion. I have tried to catch you three times so far and have missed. We are from CO so we only go once a year. Hopefully next time. Thanks for all you do. I really enjoy your videos. Disneyland is the best domestic park and you can really feel Walt's presence.
Thanks for being so reasonable and positive about things in the park! It's really a breath of fresh air
David, I love your content. I am an avid watcher. I do agree with your stances on why open Haunted Mansion now, and why the virtual queue. However; I will say people want to go on a vacation without constantly checking their apps, and the hope of even getting on an attraction. I hate to say this, but yeah you have become a bit of a Disney apologetic. Stay true to yourself. That is why we follow you.
He IS staying true to himself, and you are asking him to change because his opinion is different than yours. Seems more than a tad selfish. You may not like his opinion, but his AND yours are just as valid. Asking him to change because you don't agree... really?
I see your point, but then when should they do this being it is nearly a year project (the queue that is)? It’s not a seasonal park anymore, and in truth the busiest times are from Halloween to Christmas, not summers.
Knott’s had Camp Snoopy mostly closed during this summer, still not fully opened.
Yes, maybe they should have not had a VQ for Mansion, but I do get there was no where to have a hugely long queue. As for being on your phone - No one has to all day if they do not want to. But as with everything now, beyond Disney, you are going to be left out by not using your phone. Heck, there are still restaurants that want you to scan a code just to see the menu.
Who knows why Disney does anything the way they do anymore
short sighted focus on $$$$ - damn the long term consequences
The mismanagement at Disneyland now is blatant. Coordination of refurbs and renovations is a mess, restaurant experiences are worse, customer service worse etc. It’s sad to see.
The virtual queue is basically the same as getting rides at Tokyo Disney it sounds like. You kind of set a ride time and still have to wait in line. Seems the difference is a number vs a time of arrival
If Disney can’t accommodate the guests in the haunted mansion queue.. what the heck were they working on for the past 7 months.???
shown here. the link is to the exact point I speak to this:
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the question of starting Haunted Holiday a month earlyer this year makes more sence... then doing normal Haunted mansion first only for it to close two or three weeks later. I agree with what Fresh Baked Said.
Really appreciate the positive take on the fountain. We definitely need a more positive take on things these days. Looking forward to the next upload. Keep doing what you do best, Fresh Baked!!
It just so overwhelming sometimes, and I do agree that you couldn’t enjoy sitting by the fountain most days because of the extended queue out in that area for the haunted mansion anyway.
We have watched videos back of our own and the parks were never this crowded, so it’s just more and more people going so they have to accommodate somehow.
Just went this past weekend… you can join the virtual queue any time of the day. It was not limited to 7am and 12 noon.
Never thought I’d see it decked out for Christmas for an entire 5 months… almost half a year.
Disney is not the customer's friend. I get it. We have multiple Inspire keys. We are letting them expire. You are very positive.👍. Good attitude. That can only go so far. You Pay more ,you get Less with Disney.. It will continue. I won't go to Disney Japan ONLY so i won't be disappointed here. Be ready for more of the same. One day the whole month of December will not be included on the Magic Key. But I'm sure the price of the magic key will continue to increase. "Just prepare for those things" seems to be the Disney motto.
Your decision not to visit Disney any longer sounds like a wise one, since Disney clearly no longer brings you joy. Thanks for not forcing yourself to go somewhere when're you're unhappy, and best of luck to you in finding the thing that will restore joy to you.
@@InsuranceHour DVC membership will be sold as well. When i feel that i am making excuses for DISNEY I have to ask myself WHY AM i doing this?. It feels delusional. Too bad 😕
They’re just gonna continue to be greedy and give us less quality of everything. I was a huge fan of Disney for years up until now. The parks, movies, everything. I just can’t see myself booking a trip to Disney anytime soon
I prefer the original haunted mansion over the overlay… And I think Disney should hold off on the overlay until November 1st. It makes more sense in my mind. People watch the Haunted Mansion movie around Halloween , but if someone wants to see it in person… it isn’t there. Maybe it is just my bias that was influencing my opinion.
Went on Sunday and it broke down. We were stuck for 30 minutes. Then they took us all out through the staff area. They didn't turn off the escalator up and people grouped at the top. Everyone was falling over and slamming into each other. People were screaming for them to stop the escalator. Not sure what they fixed but it was not a good experience. Dangerous.
Freshbaked!! Question, when do you think the haunted mansion queue will be ready by? We’re going in October and are hopeful it will be open by then! Thanks for all you do!
too hard to say at this point unfortunately.
Thank you for always taking the time to break everything down. I always look forward to your videos. Hope to say (Hey Fresh Baked) some day 😂💪😎👊
Those metal rails inserted above the brick walls are thematically wrong. They're to the HM what the new Communicore hall (ie, school or airport lounge) is to Epcot. They cheapen the look of the HM's queue. The balusters are way too far apart and they should have been decorative, not just plain steel bars. However, "What were they thinking?!" goes back to DCA in 2001. But something about that in 2024 seems worse. That's because too many other facets of the Disney Co (movies, hotels, TV/streaming shows) are also being botched.
YES!!! The very first thing I noticed and was DISAPPOINTED about was the cheap railings!!! The posts with chains were logical HM line que!!! The even cheaper looking rails on the brick walls makes the walls look fake and cheap too!!!
Again, wouldn't have seen this in New Orleans of that period!
It almost looks like a cattle yard, steering the huge masses of cattle
up to the front of the house. Got to separate the rich from the poor,
don't cha know!
Walt is alive and well ..... and living in Tokyo.
Architecturally, strictly speaking, I agree. However, as far as the railing atop the brick, I suspect this is a unique circumstance. By code, the vertical bars should be no more than 4" apart. Wider than that they become a hazard in terms of heads getting stuck, unless they are very wide apart, like these (code may require this larger-than-a-head gap). Decorative elements like scrolls make them more dangerous, with smaller openings, sharp points and snags (and by the way, in addition to body parts, these elements can snag handbags etc. too as you walk past causing serious falls). They probably didn't want them 4" apart because it would be excessive, as it's not there to prevent falling (such as a balcony railing) since the ground beyond the railing is actually higher...again, this is a weird circumstance. They also likely want the aesthetics of these brick-atop railings to match the railings defining the multiple lines and these also are likely minimalistic for all the same reasons.
All that's to say, this is a circumstance where current building codes and the function (people walking past quickly with handbags, etc.) make doing these like they'd be done in the 19th century unlikely to be possible.
@@DrStarlander You may be correct. However, the Disney Co for the past 5-plus years has been making overtly bad decisions due to flat-out creative incompetence, not because of legal or logistical technicalities.
@@gridley In my opinion, Disney has been making some very poor creative decisions in recent years. I've been tracking the company for almost 50 years. I'm such a fan, when I first got my driver's license, the first place I drove was to WED Enterprises (a far drive from where I lived in California) and went in and had a nice chat with the secretary and got some press releases and a look at the space mountain model in the lobby! Later, as an adult, I worked in the theme park industry, including on Disney park attractions. In all those years, I've never seen the company so lost as it is today in terms of entertainment design, creative courage, and vision.
Having said all that, there are so many codes and regulations and behavioral/safety considerations that lay-people are not aware of, and sometimes Disney is criticized for things when they simply have no other choice. But when there is a climate of disappointment, people see everything in a critical light. It's healthy for Disney fans to know these real-world limitations exist and offer a bit of grace to Disney when possible.
I LOVE the virtual queue! As a prior DAS user (no longer eligible, but symptoms haven't changed) the virtual queue was a godsend for me!
i saw you at disneyland filming!!! i wanted to say hi but i didn’t want to disrupt your video. love ur content!
Halloween recently has been starting in July. Retail’s current season is back to school or back to college. Disney doesn’t really do back to school as a season. The next thematic “holiday” is Halloween, so that is why you see Halloween merch in July.
I'm with you on complaining. I don't complain because I prefer to be happy. I trust Disney imagineers because I love Disneyland. They are the best in the world and I appreciate that.
On 7/31 we were able to get boarding group 19 and also use a Guest Experience pass later in the evening. First time at DL so this was quite a treat.
What is a guest experience pass?
imo Magnolia Park was the biggest waste of space and this is a huge improvement for that area. I have no idea what was possibly "lost" by this project.. we're gaining so much: A revamp to an area that was severely lacking, a large and interactive queue, and an actual merchandise store themed to the area. I like how the space is being used more practically.. and now with firm line divers people can rest upon them, there is an area that lets you take a photo with the hearse, and best of all, it's gonna be ADA compliant. I see only "wins" with this whole endeavor.
I don’t think the fountain is going to run water. They did not put in the basin. It would have been better if it were still working. Why? Why? Why?
I haven’t been to Disneyland since February 2022 and I feel like I’m not missing much.
just to make a note I was there on the 12 of August in that line was all the way past pirates when I was there just for the queue to get onto haunted Mansion
When we vacationed at Disneyland in early
July it felt so strange that Disney decided to refurbish both splash mountain and haunted mansion at the same time and most of New Orleans was so dead most of the time. It was a very odd decision. So many rides went down too but on the positive the park was the slowest I have ever seen when there July 1st. Got on so many other rides with little wait times.
for some reason when I was home (way across town) I was able to get a virtual queue spot at like 1 PM yesterday
Virtual Queue sucks. what happens if your phone dies? This is ridiculous.
Two things came to mind when I heard about the "queue enhancements" and that was ADA compliance (as someone who doesn't need it, I tend to not pay attention to whether or not it is), and the other was the more ominous one... for Lightning Lane, because Disney has found a way to simultaneously ruin attractions yet still make money hand over fist. A ride like the Haunted Mansion as mentioned is a people eater does not need LL, period, ditto with Pirates, but what did they do? They put it on HM ruining the standby queue, and when it closed down they made some bumbling excuse that it would "not be fair to Genie+ customers" and they slapped it where it did not need to go on Pirates ruining that queue in the process as well. While I am pleased as punch that people can't buy their way onto HM right now, hence why virtual queue is actually fair and available for those, as soon as they go back to a regular queue LL will be back to punish guests.
I thought the original paper fast pass tickets were annoying, but at least doable. All these new systems - forget it. Just not worth the hassle. They are below $90 a share now; perhaps a change in management next year after Universal thoroughly cleans their clock?
I do agree with you but HM goes back to having the free original Fastpass system so it is nothing new to have it for LL.
@@FunAtDisney It is new though, because FPs were not handed out in as great of numbers as LL reservations are these days. Disney has way overbooked LL reservations for rides, and probably due to financial incentive it has to do so, with FPs there was no incentive to cram as many line skippers as possible onto a ride.
Ultimately, that's the biggest issue I have with the LL system, is so much capacity is reserved for people paying, that it makes standby times longer which again is the incentification to get people to pay for their service.
@@Mike__B I do agree with you on that for sure. They need to limit it, or as many have suggested, just do what Universal does - Have an Unlimited Pass and price it at $15-$200 and limit them. Disney could limit those to 25% of what LL is now, they would make just as much or more $$$ and the stand-by queue would go faster.
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Thankyou David for your answering the questions. Although, truth be known, most of these questions were already answered in your previous videos for those of us that follow your videos on a regular basis.
Still, nice to have these answers given, thanks.
Can’t imagine being a family from out of state, planned a vacation for years, pay the astronomical amount to come and stay, and then go to the park and find all the lands and rides closed for refurbishment. Ridiculous. Disney has lost its way big time. Ruining classic rides and changing the park Walt built. Shameful
We’ve been planning since Sept last year and way out of state (out of Northern Hemisphere if you will!) we get there late Sept and I’ll be sad if Pooh ride and train are still closed BUT so much is still open. Have never been to Galaxys Edge so that cool. toon Town is all new to me. Got to look on the bright side
22:39 this and 27:59 this. Be happy it is even there vs being gone. As said, Disney does this with everything! They keep a bit of the past. It is something I love about Disney is, if you know where to look, there are tons of past things hiding about. We could no longer see it as it used to be, so why not give it back some glory?
28:54 I'm personally excited to see what they did. That back line area was terrible and if they added SOMETHING to it that would be enough. I'm very curious how this change will affect the overall Mansion look from the street.
I think its really cool HMHD opened a month earlier. Those who can only make time to come in the summer get to experience this attraction, opposed to scheduling it during the school season
Maybe Disney was initially “not content” with having to dig up the haunted mansion line at first. But it seems like a along with having to be ADA compliant, they are taking this opportunity to put in the infrastructure for better crowd flow through that area of the park probably because they have bigger plans for Disneyland forward expansion, which requires people to pass through that area. I think the construction project is a lot bigger than just putting in an elevator. It is definitely more than that.
I am glad the fountain is back. It looks perfect in that new spot.
In keeping with the positivity theme, can we take a moment to appreciate the camera quality inside the ride? I felt like I was right there. Thank you for the update!
I've ridden it twice with virtual queue and I thought it was super easy - actually less stressful than the old regular queue used to be.
This was a very informative video! I always appreciate your wisdom and positivity! Thank you, David! Fresh Baked!🎃🎃👍🏻👍🏻😊
We were there on Thursday and got two virtual ques, 1 at about 9am and another around 6pm.
Thanks. This is my question: is it easy to ride later at night? Can I ride multiple times if it's not busy? I love closing the night with Mansion and Pirates. Thanks!
@frankl8631 we booked a virtual que around 6pm and our group was called at about 11pm, so it depends on how many people are booking groups. It does give you an estimated wait time when you book.
I don’t believe it will take until January to complete the Magnolia Park area as they will want this area open prior to the Christmas season.
I agree. If they do it doesn’t bother me. They need to get everything done right not fast.
I actually love that they did this but then again I’m obsessed with Halloween lol 👻👻👻
We did the VQ on Friday when we got there about 3:45 pm. There was no trouble getting on and we got on about 7pm. Afterwards I checked and there were still VQs available. I don’t think many guests that don’t go regularly even know about it.
I'm so glad they opened it up. This is when I am going to Disney this week. And I will have nothing to write on if they didn't open up the Haunted Mansion for Pete's sake😂
I don't think there is any doubt you're a Disney apologist, I watch your videos for that perspective. It doesn't make you wrong, far from it. I completely agree with you that Disney would not have torn down the HM queue out of the goodness of their heart or to improve guest experience. There aren't enough of the kind of Imagineers who care about that stuff left. They were forced by the state do disrupt the parks in this way. Even more evidence they don't care about guests? They put a total schmuck in charge of the timing of all the construction projects to carve out a third of the park in the process.
As a cancer patient denied a DAS pass, I loved the virtual queue!
I also think they are still working on stuff for the regular haunted mansion version. I think we're getting a lot of new stuff when it turns back to its original state
We went in Saturday 8/3. We arrived at DCA at 5pm and we were able to join the virtual queue spot. Unfortunately our group finally was called at 9:35pm and we were in Galaxy's edge watching fireworks.
Wednesday I got group 6. There was no one in the actual queue. There was 6 guests in the stretching room. AM people are heading to the A ticket rides. This may change.