What do you think Momota would have improved though? He didn't have an obvious weakness to improve like Axelsen's stamina and leg strength was previously.
@@ductrung3993 That was the match which crushed Momota and sent him spiralling to retirement lol. The nerves Axelsen had due to his knowledge of the h2h previously still weren't enough to stop him winning. The fact that it went the distance and Axelsen still won with his massively improved stamina just showed Momota that the advantage he had previously was gone now and he wasn't going to be top dog anymore even if he got back to his best. It crushed Momota's spirit.
In a recent interview Momota said that Axelsen’s defence was impenetrable and stamina was the deciding factor. Also he said that he’s glad he was able to get a good head to head record against Axelsen before Axelsen became better and Momota’s ranking fell.
The only reason why Viktor is looking so good now is cause no one hits good shots and move well like 2018-2019 Kento. Basically they aren’t good enough to trouble Viktor. Kento and Viktor were the top 2 back then and were far above the rest. But Kento was always better than Viktor. Naturally when no.1 is out, the no.2 takes the crown.
Yeah but u also didn't take into account the improvement Viktor had. Viktor back then was darn slow. He was 20 pounds more overweight than what he was supposed to be. Post 2020 he lost a lot of weight and his movements improved tremendously. Prime Viktor would have been a far tougher challenge for Momota. I do however think Momota is still the best between those 2 but he wouldn't be able to slaughter Viktor had they both been in their prime.
@@secrets.295 you are right! He improved alot and became faster though not as fast as Kento and the other legends. But he could be fast enough to stay in the game, set himself up and attack rather than getting slaughtered all the time. Then if he won gold, he would be worthy of it. Maybe he would even stand a good chance against Kento. But it’s such a shame we will never know thanks to the car accident. It made his gold look cheap as compared to LD who had to defeat LCW.
@@TekkaiJon Ok that is just not fair to say. To win gold in the Olympics in any era is extremely tough. Just qualifying at the Olympics is already tough. To be in the top 100 rank is already extremely tough. Winning Olympics in any circumstances or time period is never cheap. I am a big fan of Viktor Axelsen and also I am from Malayaia and am a big fan of Lee Chong Wei. However objectively I have to say LCW is overrated. He lacks mental toughness and he never even won 1 world championship. He never even won gold at the Olympics and he even lost to someone like Cheng Long in the final after beating Lin Dan in the semis. He can perform brilliantly in the early rounds until he reaches the finals of a major tournament and he always flops where it matters the most. When it comes to the big stage LCW always fails to deliver. At least Viktor has beaten Chong Leng at the Olympics. Honestly I feel like if prime Viktor was at his peak during the LCW, Lin Dan era. I can see him winning World Championships and Olympics. If Lin Dan wasn't at his best he could beat him. I am not so sure about LCW.
@@secrets.295 you should rewatch Chen Long from 2014-2016. He was a beast and deserved to beat LCW. LCW was just unlucky. After Chen Long won the 2016 Olympics, he became a shell of his former self. Slow, sluggish, no urgency to dictate the pace and attack, he just followed his opponents till either he dies or his opponent kills him or themselves. He was just slow and pathetic against Viktor in the Olympics 2020. I know he said that he had blisters on his feet but whatever, his performance was just himself asking to get slaughtered.
No, he looks better against 2022 Momota in the examples you have shown because that momota is leagues below his 2019 self. Momotas shots are more telegraphed which can see nicely when he predicts the cross lift. It it really apparent from the angle of Momotas racket relative the shuttle that he will play cross court, its not hard to see this at their level. Furthermore, Momotas shots were nowhere near as tight after his accident which gives Axelsen way less time to react especially when the shots are more easily predictable and attachable which plays into the strength of Axelsen. 2019 Momota would consistently beat current Axelsen. I think Momota would have been the GOAT if he hadn't gotten into that accident.
Yeah, no. Pretending like Axelsen isn't leagues above what he was prior to covid due to his new physicality is just ignoring reality, just look at his body changes or how much more stable his movement is. Axelsen had an apparent weakness and fixed it. He would not have too much trouble with Momota regardless of the accident now.
If Axelson can improve so could momota. These top players learn and build their game around each other. Like lin Dan, lee Chong wei, Federer, Nadal etc. And because momota’s form and game naturally counters Axelson he doesn’t need to improve as much physically or tactically to beat Axelson. Thats why you have an overwhelming 14-1 h2h pre accident. Momota in theory still had the advantage.
No one, past or present can beat VA in his current form- tall yet quick and agile with perfect footwork. Powerful, accurate and consistent, yet no longer tire easily.
But I feel like at least prime momota could not have destroyed prime victor like what he did before, the games would have been a lot closer and more intense
Dude won 2 olympics without dropping a sets. Has been dominant for 4 years not 18 months like momota' but yeah momota prime would get destroyed by axelsen nowdays. Momota was pure quality game and being regular. Post olympics axelsen was stamina and more quality game oriented, and he put a lot on efforts to strenghten his defense. And his attack steepness. Viktor 2018 is nothing compared to 22-24. He improved so much. He has prime that could beat anyone's prime
You neglected to mention the crucial element which propelled the post 2020 head band Axelsen: Axelsen's ankle operation in september 2020 was the ending of a painful injury he sustained in 2018. He suffered a lot with this during these 2 and a half years. Also why he he turned op in Thailand Open in January 2021 without his usual baby fat cheeks, because he obviously have had proper training without any injuries holding him back.
One thing that should be noted is Axelsen lost a lot of weight. For such a tall guy like him, he needs to be super skinny to have very flexible movement. Viktor did exactly just that and his movements improved a lot. You are right, I still think prime Momota would have lead their H2H, however he wouldn't be able to slaughter Viktor all the time.
I think that prime Axelson (2021-2022) can def go up against momota without any injuries since his defense and legs were stronger, it may become a rivalry between them like LD and LCW and the matches would have been a lot closer and more intense. Still even though Axelson is not as bad tempered as before, there is still some space for him to improve
current or prime axelsen still doesnt have a chance to beat prime momota. i think people nowdays underestimate prime momota to much. axelsen nowdays look so good because there is no one is on his level around him. h2h show it all. prime momota will still beat prime axelsen.
so what do you think if I say that Momota looked so good because no one was on Momota's level back in 2019 ? Who was his toughest opponent back then if not Ginting, who had some outrageous matches and moments against prime Momota ? And do you think Ginting back then can even be compared to Viktor's prime ? Absolutely no
@@trungnguyen9415 if momota still on his prime today i am sure 100% axelsen still cannot beat him. go watch back momota on his prime. look carefull so you will understand what i said. and ginting? really ginting bro??? ginting back then or today doesnt matter when. ginting is not a player that will reach momota's level or axelsen. yeah momota have a hard time against ginting but thats it. h2h momota and axelsen said it all bro.
@@the-sk1nr see how biased you were 😂 Ofc I know that Ginting was no where near the level prime Kento and prime Viktor were, but at least he has proved that prime Kento wasn't unbeatable. The h2h between Kento and Ginting might still be one-sided, but the matches in details were much closer than the h2h said. And when you said about h2h between Kento and Viktor, that meant you didn't watch the whole video. The h2h said basically nothing when one player in his prime played against his opponent in their worst' time. Just imagine when Kento wasn't too bad to be out of the ranking in the last 2 years and these 2 players could have met more than 2 times, don't you think that Viktor would have easily made the h2h between them much closer ?
@@trungnguyen9415 i have watch all their game between momota and axelsen. iam not bias. but thats the fact. axelsen hit his prime when momota is still around. go watch their game bro. you still understand 😂. its not iam underestimate axelson but i cant see or think prime axelsen beat prime momota
@@the-sk1nr what fact ? The 1st good period of Axelsen's career was back in 2016-17 when Momota didn't play (and that version of Axelsen was no where near the post Covid-present version of himself). And when Momota came back in 2018 and dominated the whole badminton world in 2 years, Axelsen was struggled with multiple injuries, overweight, etc. The only good version of Axelsen during the 2018-19 period was in All England 2019 where he defeated Shi Yuqi (the 2nd seed) in the SF and only lost to prime Momota after the interval of the 3rd set because his lack of stamina back then. Compared that version of Axelsen to now, I can't understand why you could say that Axelsen hit his prime when Momota was still around. The only fact was, that these two almost didn't play a single game when both were in their prime, what was such a big big pity for all of badminton fans
Momota 2019 vs Axelsen 2022... I'm taking Axelsen 7 times out of 10. As impressive as Momota was with 11 titles in 2019. Axelsen broke the record for most consecutive wins with 37, but he couldn't possibly reach Momota's 11 titles because it was a Thomas cup year with an uneven scheduling in the aftermath of covid. Besides that, no one even uses Momota as a template on how to defeat/challenge Axelsen today, because he would eat those "neutral" shots when you don't have a great attacking drive with a powerful smash, which Momota didn't really have.
No one nowadays uses Momota as template to beat Axelsen simply because nobody can play as quality shots as Momota did. No current players can place slice/drop shots so close to the net like Momota. And saying Momota didn't have great smashes shows that you haven't rewatched his matches, especially ones against Viktor Axelsen. His smashes although not very powerful, had incredible steep and placement. The fact that Axelsen always moved so far to the back when Momota jumped tells how respectful Axelsen was to Momota's smashes.
@@vuphong3285 Keep in mind that fastest smash from Kento was 416 km/h and the fastest Singles smash holder is Prannoy with 426 km/h. Saying that Kento has weak smash shows nobody is actually paying attention. He however, really likes to smash overhead down the line which doesnt require you to go all out and instead needs to be more accurate.
@@vuphong3285 he is paid by danish federation to defend axelsen..anyone with a brain knows that viktor couldn't handle momota until he probably paid someone to injure momota in Malaysia.. facts is 2019 momota > 2023 axelsen.
I think a lot of people are looking at the 14:3 (or even 14:1) score, giving Axelsen a 17.65% win rate against Momota's 82.35% and concluding that this is indicative of their relative strengths, but this would be a huge mistake, as these numbers are just a quirk of the winner-takes-all scoring in badminton. In reality, (assuming I counted correctly), Axelsen scored 1336 points against Momota, while Momota scored 1518 points against Axelsen. This means Axelsen scored 46.81% of the points and therefore "only" needs to win 3.19 percentage points more, to tie with Momota. I have no idea if Axelsen would win today, but 3.19pp is well within reason, so anyone claiming they know it to be impossible, is just delusional. Adding that he appears to have been specifically targeting and improving on his weak areas, that Momota was exploiting, seems to indicate that it would at least be an extremely close match-up.
Don't agree, Axelsen doesn't have the temperament to withstand the patience, endurance and skill of prime Momota, he may have developed the physical skills but still lacks in mental temperament when challenged
@@kasperrieberg3495tough yes. Tough when faced with superior players? You see him become frustrated and lose cool. if kunlavut can reach the finals, you wouldn’t exactly say it’s a competitive era. He’s Still mentally behind momota
Yep. When you see him taking late baseline shots, it's a tell tale sign he's getting rattled by his opponent. Think that hasn't changed. The reason you don't see it that much these days is because not many are really troubling him, except for SYQ here and there, and Prannoy up to last year. But that too is to his credit, he's way better than everyone else with the exception of Kento basically from 2017 up to the present.
It'd definitely be a very interesting match to watch. Axelsen has improved a lot since 2019, but Momota could have improved as well if not for the accident. I still think Kento would have a slight edge, but I think prime Viktor would put up much more of a fight than 2019 Viktor did.
Please analyze match between Axelsen vs Prannoy and why Prannoy can beat prime Axelsen 3 times. And please compare Prannoy gameplay with Kento prime gameplay
It is very clear Axelsen became dominant after Momota’s car accident. Momota is even younger than Axelsen. No disrespect to Victor but he is the biggest beneficiary for Momota’s tragedy car accident. I think Victor would love to play gold medal match against Momota without car accident and beat him. But this will never happen. Making video like this is very disrespectful to Momota.
Chill people there is no point of comparing those two players they are better on their on its tragic for momota I know but axelson is also good the first thing is there should not be comparison of these two GOAT
first of all, the 'life-changing' event for momota was not the car accident in malaysia. that was a bad accident that left him a bit shook up, but he was fine. the downfall was after that when he genuflected to the god of covid, not that there was a 'pandemic', but the way he acquiesceced to the mass psychosis of that whole thing. that is the exact moment when the magic left kento momota, never to return again. as far as the other stuff you say, it's true axelsen's core strength and other aspects of his physicality and play have improved, but you completely miss why momota was the dane-killer and it has nothing to do with axelsen's physicality or skills. momota beat axelsen, like he beat almost everyone, with mind. that was the magic, he got inside your head and it didnt matter anymore what your skills were. it's like he took everything you thought you had going for you and let you beat yourself. we've never seen anything like it in the sport before or since. there've been some legendary tacticians like lin dan and hidayat, but no one played the very top players from quite that altitude of cold zen ether that we saw momota rise to. point taken that victor has improved, but it's completely fanciful to say axelsen today could beat momota 2019. you dont know that, and neither does anyone else
I swear if the truth came to light that the danish federation or axelsen was behind momota's car crash(victor paid someonw to unalive kento)... Would bwf and olympic commitee strip him of his 2 gold medals?? And instead award momota an honorary gold?? 🧐
TBH it's not even about skills at this point. Momota head to head ratio got to Axelsen's head. It's a mental game. Just like how Lin Dan destroys Lee Chong Wei. LCW could destroy literally everyone else just like how Axelsen is ''destroying'' everyone else. Momota reads Axelsen well and plays a very particuliar fast pace tactical allies with as less lifts as possible that tires taller players. And Momota's net shots are god level, probably the best I've ever seen in his prime that is. For me it's very close to a tie. Axelsen is invincible when he's confident. Right now, nobody can beat him so his confidence is boosted to 110%. However, Momota always beated him, so it could get to his head. But a lot of what ifs.
Yeah he can play confidentially because he know he will win. You can see it in his body language in the semi finals and finals of Olympic Games. When syq was eliminated, Axelson already knew he won. He knows kunlavat can’t beat him. When he’s playing momota you can see he already know he’s lost. It’s so different in the body language.
Yeah he had that mental barrier but still momota defeated everyone in his prime, however axelsen is inconsistent He lost from Lky, jonatan, hs prannoy, ginting, shi yu qi, lzj , naraoka, and a lot other players as well, kento only lost to ginting in his prime but later adapted to his playing style as well and also lost to shi yu qi once because he was having a bad day but he demolished shi yu qi on other occasions. He won 11 titles 2 championships consecutively in his prime Skill wise also I feel he was superior he had no weakness, he fast fast, athletic, great stroke play, best precision, power smash, zero unforced errors, ability to handle pressure and what not If he didn't face accident and COVID he would have made many new records.
@@leenpels7646Kento got 2 walkover in Malaysia open 2022. He wasn’t aware that his back injury was still troubling him and he become a shell of his former self.
@@randomchannel1004 The 2 players with a walkover was Ng Ka Long and Rhustavito. But in the semi final he was up against View (Vitidsarn)...And hey, he defeated him convincingly. His fake back injury surely didn't hold him "back" there. He even had 2 walkovers previously. Makes you really consider how fake Kento really was despite being a cute Japanese boy. I mean, he was engaging in criminality before regarding gambling.
Honestly i disagree with the title. Axelsen. Still took 3 games against a weaken momota in 2021 denmark open. Yes he won that one but still axelsen in the form of us life still struggling someone who is losing matches that in their prime would never lose. Thats saying alot about axelsen. He may be the best riht now but if we put todays axelsen to 2019 axelsen. He would still lose. He may have gotten better but his mental game is still not as strong as prime momota.thats for sure. Sure its gotten better but we still see him crack under pressure every now and then and you certainly cant have that with prime momota.
Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, and Taufik Hideyat are the top 3 of all time. Kento Momota was about to be the fourth until his accident. I'd say top 4 though. Kento whooped his ass 14 to 1 until everything fell.
People are not ready to hear that😅 Better put everything on the car accident like axelsen wasnt suffering from multiple injuries back in the day and still up to day.😅😅
@@leenpels7646 are you stupid or what? 2022 Momota was soul searching period post accident. It was confirm he suffer double vision and backache. He wasn't able to improve from his 2019 form.
@@leenpels7646 Nope.... thats 2022 axelsen vs 2022 momota....are you daft or what? we're talkin about 2019 momota vs 2022 axelsen.. axelsen stands 0 chance
@@LYCANCLANTEAMwhat ppl forget is the type of player Momota will become in 2021-2024 , without that unfortunate accident that fracture his eye socket and a hernia . A more powerful version of 2019.
no doubt current VA will beat 2019 momota,2 matches that make VA looks crazy is him vs LZJ in Thomas 2024 and Olympic Final vs Kunlavut,his defence is just too good and make ZJ confused multiple times in the match,current VA is insane,but still cant be compared with 2008 Olympic LinDan
Nobody mentions that Momota could also be improved. It would be pleasure for badminton fan if the car accident never happened.
Exactly. Even 2021 Momota almost straight setted prime Axelsen in the Denmark open final. The last few points his eyes acted up otherwise
What do you think Momota would have improved though? He didn't have an obvious weakness to improve like Axelsen's stamina and leg strength was previously.
@@ductrung3993 That was the match which crushed Momota and sent him spiralling to retirement lol. The nerves Axelsen had due to his knowledge of the h2h previously still weren't enough to stop him winning. The fact that it went the distance and Axelsen still won with his massively improved stamina just showed Momota that the advantage he had previously was gone now and he wasn't going to be top dog anymore even if he got back to his best. It crushed Momota's spirit.
Why does accidents always happen on great players?
It would be pressure for axelsen though😂
In a recent interview Momota said that Axelsen’s defence was impenetrable and stamina was the deciding factor. Also he said that he’s glad he was able to get a good head to head record against Axelsen before Axelsen became better and Momota’s ranking fell.
The only reason why Viktor is looking so good now is cause no one hits good shots and move well like 2018-2019 Kento. Basically they aren’t good enough to trouble Viktor. Kento and Viktor were the top 2 back then and were far above the rest. But Kento was always better than Viktor. Naturally when no.1 is out, the no.2 takes the crown.
Couldn't agree more.
Yeah but u also didn't take into account the improvement Viktor had. Viktor back then was darn slow. He was 20 pounds more overweight than what he was supposed to be. Post 2020 he lost a lot of weight and his movements improved tremendously. Prime Viktor would have been a far tougher challenge for Momota. I do however think Momota is still the best between those 2 but he wouldn't be able to slaughter Viktor had they both been in their prime.
@@secrets.295 you are right! He improved alot and became faster though not as fast as Kento and the other legends. But he could be fast enough to stay in the game, set himself up and attack rather than getting slaughtered all the time. Then if he won gold, he would be worthy of it. Maybe he would even stand a good chance against Kento. But it’s such a shame we will never know thanks to the car accident. It made his gold look cheap as compared to LD who had to defeat LCW.
@@TekkaiJon Ok that is just not fair to say. To win gold in the Olympics in any era is extremely tough. Just qualifying at the Olympics is already tough. To be in the top 100 rank is already extremely tough. Winning Olympics in any circumstances or time period is never cheap.
I am a big fan of Viktor Axelsen and also I am from Malayaia and am a big fan of Lee Chong Wei. However objectively I have to say LCW is overrated. He lacks mental toughness and he never even won 1 world championship. He never even won gold at the Olympics and he even lost to someone like Cheng Long in the final after beating Lin Dan in the semis. He can perform brilliantly in the early rounds until he reaches the finals of a major tournament and he always flops where it matters the most. When it comes to the big stage LCW always fails to deliver. At least Viktor has beaten Chong Leng at the Olympics. Honestly I feel like if prime Viktor was at his peak during the LCW, Lin Dan era. I can see him winning World Championships and Olympics. If Lin Dan wasn't at his best he could beat him. I am not so sure about LCW.
@@secrets.295 you should rewatch Chen Long from 2014-2016. He was a beast and deserved to beat LCW. LCW was just unlucky. After Chen Long won the 2016 Olympics, he became a shell of his former self. Slow, sluggish, no urgency to dictate the pace and attack, he just followed his opponents till either he dies or his opponent kills him or themselves. He was just slow and pathetic against Viktor in the Olympics 2020. I know he said that he had blisters on his feet but whatever, his performance was just himself asking to get slaughtered.
No, he looks better against 2022 Momota in the examples you have shown because that momota is leagues below his 2019 self. Momotas shots are more telegraphed which can see nicely when he predicts the cross lift. It it really apparent from the angle of Momotas racket relative the shuttle that he will play cross court, its not hard to see this at their level. Furthermore, Momotas shots were nowhere near as tight after his accident which gives Axelsen way less time to react especially when the shots are more easily predictable and attachable which plays into the strength of Axelsen.
2019 Momota would consistently beat current Axelsen. I think Momota would have been the GOAT if he hadn't gotten into that accident.
Yeah, no. Pretending like Axelsen isn't leagues above what he was prior to covid due to his new physicality is just ignoring reality, just look at his body changes or how much more stable his movement is. Axelsen had an apparent weakness and fixed it. He would not have too much trouble with Momota regardless of the accident now.
If Axelson can improve so could momota. These top players learn and build their game around each other. Like lin Dan, lee Chong wei, Federer, Nadal etc. And because momota’s form and game naturally counters Axelson he doesn’t need to improve as much physically or tactically to beat Axelson. Thats why you have an overwhelming 14-1 h2h pre accident. Momota in theory still had the advantage.
Kento momota is legend
I think so too
He's a footnote legend
thank you for all these quality videos
among the best badminton youtube channels for sure
please keep making these
No one, past or present can beat VA in his current form- tall yet quick and agile with perfect footwork. Powerful, accurate and consistent, yet no longer tire easily.
Delusional thinking is disagreeing with this.
Can beat but not easily
That will stay as one of the sports biggest what if’s.
The only valid debate is:
Could prime momota beat prime LD or LCW.
There is nooo way prime momota could be beaten by prime victor.
But I feel like at least prime momota could not have destroyed prime victor like what he did before, the games would have been a lot closer and more intense
Lmao, 2018 momota lost a match to old ass LCW, go figure
He won 4-1 against Lindan, Just bc he lost once diesnt mean hes worse
Dude won 2 olympics without dropping a sets. Has been dominant for 4 years not 18 months like momota' but yeah momota prime would get destroyed by axelsen nowdays. Momota was pure quality game and being regular. Post olympics axelsen was stamina and more quality game oriented, and he put a lot on efforts to strenghten his defense. And his attack steepness. Viktor 2018 is nothing compared to 22-24. He improved so much. He has prime that could beat anyone's prime
@@Ey3shi3ldtv this is biased af lol
You neglected to mention the crucial element which propelled the post 2020 head band Axelsen: Axelsen's ankle operation in september 2020 was the ending of a painful injury he sustained in 2018. He suffered a lot with this during these 2 and a half years.
Also why he he turned op in Thailand Open in January 2021 without his usual baby fat cheeks, because he obviously have had proper training without any injuries holding him back.
One thing that should be noted is Axelsen lost a lot of weight. For such a tall guy like him, he needs to be super skinny to have very flexible movement. Viktor did exactly just that and his movements improved a lot. You are right, I still think prime Momota would have lead their H2H, however he wouldn't be able to slaughter Viktor all the time.
too bad prime momota vs prime axelsen only exist in our imagination
I think that prime Axelson (2021-2022) can def go up against momota without any injuries since his defense and legs were stronger, it may become a rivalry between them like LD and LCW and the matches would have been a lot closer and more intense. Still even though Axelson is not as bad tempered as before, there is still some space for him to improve
current or prime axelsen still doesnt have a chance to beat prime momota. i think people nowdays underestimate prime momota to much. axelsen nowdays look so good because there is no one is on his level around him. h2h show it all. prime momota will still beat prime axelsen.
so what do you think if I say that Momota looked so good because no one was on Momota's level back in 2019 ? Who was his toughest opponent back then if not Ginting, who had some outrageous matches and moments against prime Momota ? And do you think Ginting back then can even be compared to Viktor's prime ? Absolutely no
@@trungnguyen9415 if momota still on his prime today i am sure 100% axelsen still cannot beat him. go watch back momota on his prime. look carefull so you will understand what i said. and ginting? really ginting bro??? ginting back then or today doesnt matter when. ginting is not a player that will reach momota's level or axelsen. yeah momota have a hard time against ginting but thats it. h2h momota and axelsen said it all bro.
@@the-sk1nr see how biased you were 😂 Ofc I know that Ginting was no where near the level prime Kento and prime Viktor were, but at least he has proved that prime Kento wasn't unbeatable. The h2h between Kento and Ginting might still be one-sided, but the matches in details were much closer than the h2h said. And when you said about h2h between Kento and Viktor, that meant you didn't watch the whole video. The h2h said basically nothing when one player in his prime played against his opponent in their worst' time. Just imagine when Kento wasn't too bad to be out of the ranking in the last 2 years and these 2 players could have met more than 2 times, don't you think that Viktor would have easily made the h2h between them much closer ?
@@trungnguyen9415 i have watch all their game between momota and axelsen. iam not bias. but thats the fact. axelsen hit his prime when momota is still around. go watch their game bro. you still understand 😂. its not iam underestimate axelson but i cant see or think prime axelsen beat prime momota
@@the-sk1nr what fact ? The 1st good period of Axelsen's career was back in 2016-17 when Momota didn't play (and that version of Axelsen was no where near the post Covid-present version of himself). And when Momota came back in 2018 and dominated the whole badminton world in 2 years, Axelsen was struggled with multiple injuries, overweight, etc. The only good version of Axelsen during the 2018-19 period was in All England 2019 where he defeated Shi Yuqi (the 2nd seed) in the SF and only lost to prime Momota after the interval of the 3rd set because his lack of stamina back then. Compared that version of Axelsen to now, I can't understand why you could say that Axelsen hit his prime when Momota was still around. The only fact was, that these two almost didn't play a single game when both were in their prime, what was such a big big pity for all of badminton fans
Can you make a video on how viktor was so lean until 2019/2020 and all of sudden was able to look jacked and muscular especially his lower body
weight training
He had injuries back then and almost miss olympic Tokyo if COVID pandemic never happened
bulgarian split squat. goat leg destroyer(+builder). VA himself posted on his insta. insane leg mass. olympic gold medal worth
Love your analyzing videos. Can't wait for your videos about double players.
this video topic always intrigued me in my mind when ever i see Prime Momota and 2022 Victor Axelsen
No the badminton standard drop even further till theres no competition against victor currently
Facts
Momota 2019 vs Axelsen 2022... I'm taking Axelsen 7 times out of 10. As impressive as Momota was with 11 titles in 2019. Axelsen broke the record for most consecutive wins with 37, but he couldn't possibly reach Momota's 11 titles because it was a Thomas cup year with an uneven scheduling in the aftermath of covid.
Besides that, no one even uses Momota as a template on how to defeat/challenge Axelsen today, because he would eat those "neutral" shots when you don't have a great attacking drive with a powerful smash, which Momota didn't really have.
No one nowadays uses Momota as template to beat Axelsen simply because nobody can play as quality shots as Momota did. No current players can place slice/drop shots so close to the net like Momota.
And saying Momota didn't have great smashes shows that you haven't rewatched his matches, especially ones against Viktor Axelsen. His smashes although not very powerful, had incredible steep and placement. The fact that Axelsen always moved so far to the back when Momota jumped tells how respectful Axelsen was to Momota's smashes.
@@vuphong3285 Keep in mind that fastest smash from Kento was 416 km/h and the fastest Singles smash holder is Prannoy with 426 km/h. Saying that Kento has weak smash shows nobody is actually paying attention. He however, really likes to smash overhead down the line which doesnt require you to go all out and instead needs to be more accurate.
@@vuphong3285 he is paid by danish federation to defend axelsen..anyone with a brain knows that viktor couldn't handle momota until he probably paid someone to injure momota in Malaysia.. facts is 2019 momota > 2023 axelsen.
@LYCANCLANTEAM imagine being that id iot to write something like that😅
@@Ey3shi3ldtv😂😂😂
Can you make a video on what's changed in momota's game after the car crash, I for one can't tell
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I think a lot of people are looking at the 14:3 (or even 14:1) score, giving Axelsen a 17.65% win rate against Momota's 82.35% and concluding that this is indicative of their relative strengths, but this would be a huge mistake, as these numbers are just a quirk of the winner-takes-all scoring in badminton.
In reality, (assuming I counted correctly), Axelsen scored 1336 points against Momota, while Momota scored 1518 points against Axelsen.
This means Axelsen scored 46.81% of the points and therefore "only" needs to win 3.19 percentage points more, to tie with Momota.
I have no idea if Axelsen would win today, but 3.19pp is well within reason, so anyone claiming they know it to be impossible, is just delusional.
Adding that he appears to have been specifically targeting and improving on his weak areas, that Momota was exploiting, seems to indicate that it would at least be an extremely close match-up.
Just look at the change in axelsen’s muscle lol , my god did he train hard.
Can you analyse the Lin Dan movements?? How are his slow movements yet so effective?? What's his strategy??
Yes Axelsen would defeat Momota like he did last...
Look how he recovers from each shot
Don't agree, Axelsen doesn't have the temperament to withstand the patience, endurance and skill of prime Momota, he may have developed the physical skills but still lacks in mental temperament when challenged
Axelsen is extreme mentally tough
@@kasperrieberg3495tough yes. Tough when faced with superior players? You see him become frustrated and lose cool. if kunlavut can reach the finals, you wouldn’t exactly say it’s a competitive era. He’s Still mentally behind momota
Yep. When you see him taking late baseline shots, it's a tell tale sign he's getting rattled by his opponent. Think that hasn't changed. The reason you don't see it that much these days is because not many are really troubling him, except for SYQ here and there, and Prannoy up to last year. But that too is to his credit, he's way better than everyone else with the exception of Kento basically from 2017 up to the present.
not as momota in his prime@@kasperrieberg3495
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It'd definitely be a very interesting match to watch. Axelsen has improved a lot since 2019, but Momota could have improved as well if not for the accident. I still think Kento would have a slight edge, but I think prime Viktor would put up much more of a fight than 2019 Viktor did.
Please analyze match between Axelsen vs Prannoy and why Prannoy can beat prime Axelsen 3 times. And please compare Prannoy gameplay with Kento prime gameplay
It is very clear Axelsen became dominant after Momota’s car accident. Momota is even younger than Axelsen. No disrespect to Victor but he is the biggest beneficiary for Momota’s tragedy car accident. I think Victor would love to play gold medal match against Momota without car accident and beat him. But this will never happen.
Making video like this is very disrespectful to Momota.
No. You are disrespectful to Axelsen and the work he put in to improve.
Chill people there is no point of comparing those two players they are better on their on its tragic for momota I know but axelson is also good the first thing is there should not be comparison of these two GOAT
@@sharieftamang8547 nice statement,huge respect to you.
He was rank 6th , 6th at that time that means there were also 4 other guys just disappeared? Lol
@@hieunguyenduy1357 2019 he was already world no.1 for several weeks lol.
And now LZJ is facing the same problem like old Axlesen. Great upper body but his leg so slow huhuhu. Hopefully LZJ can solve it fastly
first of all, the 'life-changing' event for momota was not the car accident in malaysia. that was a bad accident that left him a bit shook up, but he was fine. the downfall was after that when he genuflected to the god of covid, not that there was a 'pandemic', but the way he acquiesceced to the mass psychosis of that whole thing. that is the exact moment when the magic left kento momota, never to return again. as far as the other stuff you say, it's true axelsen's core strength and other aspects of his physicality and play have improved, but you completely miss why momota was the dane-killer and it has nothing to do with axelsen's physicality or skills. momota beat axelsen, like he beat almost everyone, with mind. that was the magic, he got inside your head and it didnt matter anymore what your skills were. it's like he took everything you thought you had going for you and let you beat yourself. we've never seen anything like it in the sport before or since. there've been some legendary tacticians like lin dan and hidayat, but no one played the very top players from quite that altitude of cold zen ether that we saw momota rise to. point taken that victor has improved, but it's completely fanciful to say axelsen today could beat momota 2019. you dont know that, and neither does anyone else
Axelsen is A beast!
I swear if the truth came to light that the danish federation or axelsen was behind momota's car crash(victor paid someonw to unalive kento)...
Would bwf and olympic commitee strip him of his 2 gold medals?? And instead award momota an honorary gold?? 🧐
What could have been the new lin dan vs lcw rivalry cutdown because of that unfortunate accident
TBH it's not even about skills at this point. Momota head to head ratio got to Axelsen's head. It's a mental game. Just like how Lin Dan destroys Lee Chong Wei. LCW could destroy literally everyone else just like how Axelsen is ''destroying'' everyone else. Momota reads Axelsen well and plays a very particuliar fast pace tactical allies with as less lifts as possible that tires taller players. And Momota's net shots are god level, probably the best I've ever seen in his prime that is. For me it's very close to a tie. Axelsen is invincible when he's confident. Right now, nobody can beat him so his confidence is boosted to 110%. However, Momota always beated him, so it could get to his head. But a lot of what ifs.
Yeah he can play confidentially because he know he will win. You can see it in his body language in the semi finals and finals of Olympic Games. When syq was eliminated, Axelson already knew he won. He knows kunlavat can’t beat him. When he’s playing momota you can see he already know he’s lost. It’s so different in the body language.
Yeah he had that mental barrier but still momota defeated everyone in his prime, however axelsen is inconsistent
He lost from Lky, jonatan, hs prannoy, ginting, shi yu qi, lzj , naraoka, and a lot other players as well, kento only lost to ginting in his prime but later adapted to his playing style as well and also lost to shi yu qi once because he was having a bad day but he demolished shi yu qi on other occasions.
He won 11 titles 2 championships consecutively in his prime
Skill wise also I feel he was superior he had no weakness, he fast fast, athletic, great stroke play, best precision, power smash, zero unforced errors, ability to handle pressure and what not
If he didn't face accident and COVID he would have made many new records.
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Momota is more talented than axelsen though, he's the only player that I fear could break Lin Dan's records in badminton history but unfortunately
Kento in 2022 was not even 1/5th of what he was in 2018 19
Yet he was good enough to reach the final.
@@leenpels7646Kento got 2 walkover in Malaysia open 2022. He wasn’t aware that his back injury was still troubling him and he become a shell of his former self.
@@randomchannel1004 The 2 players with a walkover was Ng Ka Long and Rhustavito. But in the semi final he was up against View (Vitidsarn)...And hey, he defeated him convincingly.
His fake back injury surely didn't hold him "back" there. He even had 2 walkovers previously.
Makes you really consider how fake Kento really was despite being a cute Japanese boy. I mean, he was engaging in criminality before regarding gambling.
@@leenpels7646 in another words, he was lucky to be in the final, his skill deteriorated since covid. While viktor improve.
@@randomchannel1004 You're Asian, right?
Can you do videos of pv Sindhu and indian ms players?
Can You Make A Vid on - Lin DAN Of 2016 the old lin dan who people say practically walks on court
Ever since 2020, Momota got weaker and weaker while Axelsen got stronger and stronger
Strategy Alex Lanier won Japan Open
Can you make a video on what made lin dan the goat 🐐
Honestly i disagree with the title. Axelsen. Still took 3 games against a weaken momota in 2021 denmark open. Yes he won that one but still axelsen in the form of us life still struggling someone who is losing matches that in their prime would never lose. Thats saying alot about axelsen. He may be the best riht now but if we put todays axelsen to 2019 axelsen. He would still lose. He may have gotten better but his mental game is still not as strong as prime momota.thats for sure. Sure its gotten better but we still see him crack under pressure every now and then and you certainly cant have that with prime momota.
Viktor is the most dominant force right now.
In my opinion he has already cemented his legacy as one of the goats 🐐 ( TOP 3 of all time )
Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, and Taufik Hideyat are the top 3 of all time. Kento Momota was about to be the fourth until his accident. I'd say top 4 though. Kento whooped his ass 14 to 1 until everything fell.
@@8P3ths No doubt Momota was better. But I would still be hyped to see if Viktor could overcome Momota's play style. Still rooting for Viktor though.
Tbh Viktor > LCW
taufik? HAHAHAHHA lol chen long is objectively better by far@@8P3ths
In my opinion, the current ranking for GOATS is like this:
1. Lin Dan
2. Axelsen
3. Chen Long
4. LCW
Axelsen 2022 would defeat any version of Momota.
People are not ready to hear that😅
Better put everything on the car accident like axelsen wasnt suffering from multiple injuries back in the day and still up to day.😅😅
I really dont see the point of this discussion
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Dude that’s 2022 momota he could never beat momota
baba leave story😅 current Axelsen can not match prime Momota of 2019
2022 Axelsen would. He also did 21-4 21-7...
@@leenpels7646 are you stupid or what? 2022 Momota was soul searching period post accident. It was confirm he suffer double vision and backache. He wasn't able to improve from his 2019 form.
@@leenpels7646 Nope.... thats 2022 axelsen vs 2022 momota....are you daft or what?
we're talkin about 2019 momota vs 2022 axelsen..
axelsen stands 0 chance
@@LYCANCLANTEAMwhat ppl forget is the type of player Momota will become in 2021-2024 , without that unfortunate accident that fracture his eye socket and a hernia . A more powerful version of 2019.
A think only sen can chalange victor
no doubt current VA will beat 2019 momota,2 matches that make VA looks crazy is him vs LZJ in Thomas 2024 and Olympic Final vs Kunlavut,his defence is just too good and make ZJ confused multiple times in the match,current VA is insane,but still cant be compared with 2008 Olympic LinDan
No chance, momota vs lin dan has no weakness.
@@logbasex826 what do you mean momota vs lindan?
The reason why axelsen moves better because Momota shot is slower than before and he lost his pace so u can’t compare