Did it 1st time in 2020 owned home since 2007. And holy cow did I pull up tons and tons of stuff. Went to do it again this year and only did the front cause I was not pulling up much at all. I mow every 3 days never breaking 1/3 rule
My lawn is a mix of Tall fescue and Kentucky blue. Probably 90 fescue and 10 blue. I dethatched it aggressively this past fall to thin it out right before overseeding to make way for more of the newer varieties I was adding. That worked very well for what I wanted to accomplish, but given you have to scalp it before dethatching and Tall fescue generally hates that I absolutely would not dethatch fescue unless you plan to seed it.
Why not do half the yard and compare side by side? Or dethatch the whole thing snap out down pre emergent on half? Do something more meaningful than relaying on your perception from the previous year
@JimmyLewisMows my lawn is fully kentucky bluegrass. This fall when I dethatch and overseed, what seed do recommend using to overseed with? I watched your video about your new Blue Ribbon seed. Would this be a good option or do you recommend a different seed? Thanks
Use a groundskeeper dethatcher rake and lightly come through the grass without scraping the soil to get some of the dead material out. Don't dig into the soil. Those dethatcher machines are too aggressive
He probably got the thatcher for free as usual so didn’t care who spent money on buying something he recommended I’ve noticed over the years he is one of these UA-camrs that’s always begging for free crap so he doesn’t care if you go and buy anything he will just be begging for more crap next year and these guys wonder why there channels are stagnated and stop growing
Haven’t dethatched ever and have almost no thatch. I think it’s a fad. If you cut frequently the grass that is getting mulched is just the tips which decompose quickly. If you are a person who forgets to mow and let it go and your cutting the stalky parts of grass, they’ll not break down as quick.
The only place to dethatch lawns is under trees. And really pine trees. Which is pointless in itself unless you raise the canopy of a pine tree. Getting rid of the old grass and leaves that are breaking down means you’re getting rid of your future topsoil. So unless your planning on adding chemicals to your lawn forever it’s costing you extra money and time
Imagine being so concerned about how your yard is perceived that you're willing to put this much effort into creating an ecological dead zone full of toxic chemicals. How beautiful and bountiful this yard could be if it was filled with native plants!
You are 100% correct with having more weeds if you dethatch. However, I’m still going to have some weeds regardless if I dethatch and utilizing pre-emergents. Therefore, my regimen to get rid of those will be the same regardless, with spraying the entire lawn with a post emergent. So, I’d rather have better soil, air, water conditions that will yield a better, thicker turf, rather than a thinner turf with fewer weeds and not being able to feed and water more efficiently.
I don’t dethatch or aerate my lawn for the same reason you mentioned. My lawn has a preemergent weed barrier and doing the above will open up and damage the barrier.
30 to 40 years ago was the last time I dethatched. I haven't done it since then. I don't have weeds either my front lawn is so thick The dead grass from the winter time decomposes faster than you realize the new grass that comes in spreads and pretty much consumes it we haven't had these hatch and so long you only need a detach if there's a significant that layer built up and there never is cuz we mow by the 1/3 rule and when you do that anything that you cut off breaks down goes back into the soil wasted wasted money and time
I had come to the exact same conclusion as you. Never had weeds in my lawn. Started dethatching the last few years and noticed a significant increase in weed population in the Spring. I started dethatching annually because of consistent fungul issues with my KBG. Dethatching has helped with mitigating summer fungus, but now I have weeds. Its a very delicate balancing act for sure! Do you encounter any fungus issues in the hot summer? Thanks for the video!
Not really susceptible to many fungal issues here. Very dry climate for the most part. I'll see melting out due to people over-watering, and snow mold, but not much else.
Not only weeds but I also noticed my lawn needs more watering because thatch is important to have (not too much), so when you get rid of thatch you're getting rid of a way the lawn can stay moist longer in summer. A flaw about the internet is misinformation, that's why people need to experience it themselves.
I have TTTF/KBG mix l dethatch and aerate in the spring also put down liquid prodiamine haven't noticed more abundant weeds l feel once the weed seeds are brought to the surface over time you won't have a issue please let me know your thoughts on my thinking thanks
Detaching is excellent..but I am also not doing it in my front yard this year. (For different reasons) After scalping and reseeding in the fall last year, then reset to a new height of 0.5”, there is no thatch this year. As he mentioned-there is a time and place. Great tool tho.
I use liquid dethatcher from Next that I get through Yard Mastery, haven’t used a mechanical dethatcher in a few years. Spray it down in the Summer because it uses the heat
Have you considered dethatching half of the yard to do a side-by-side comparison?
I only dethatch at the highest level. Just enough to clear some material. I find the other settings too aggressive.
Did it 1st time in 2020 owned home since 2007. And holy cow did I pull up tons and tons of stuff. Went to do it again this year and only did the front cause I was not pulling up much at all. I mow every 3 days never breaking 1/3 rule
My lawn is a mix of Tall fescue and Kentucky blue. Probably 90 fescue and 10 blue. I dethatched it aggressively this past fall to thin it out right before overseeding to make way for more of the newer varieties I was adding. That worked very well for what I wanted to accomplish, but given you have to scalp it before dethatching and Tall fescue generally hates that I absolutely would not dethatch fescue unless you plan to seed it.
Why not do half the yard and compare side by side? Or dethatch the whole thing snap out down pre emergent on half? Do something more meaningful than relaying on your perception from the previous year
I wonder if you would see any change if you did a late summer dethatch only.
Do you still like the Ryobi dethatcher?
Do you need to overseed after dethatching your Kentucky Bluegrass every time? I live in Colorado. Thanks
You do not
@JimmyLewisMows my lawn is fully kentucky bluegrass. This fall when I dethatch and overseed, what seed do recommend using to overseed with? I watched your video about your new Blue Ribbon seed. Would this be a good option or do you recommend a different seed? Thanks
@@paulmaestas8709I think my blue ribbon seed would be a great option!
Why don’t you detach half the lawn and compare?
Tempting 😏
Use a groundskeeper dethatcher rake and lightly come through the grass without scraping the soil to get some of the dead material out. Don't dig into the soil. Those dethatcher machines are too aggressive
Dethatching is a nice paying job though…
I have Tall Fescue, have detached in the fall for several years. My yard looks amazing and very few weeds.
Dude gets half of UA-cam to buy a dethatcher. Comes back next year and is like, "nah, just kidding guys".
You still need to consider your grass type. Some may need to be dethatched. Also you can set the tines higher and do a less aggressive rake.
Did you actually watch this video?
@@alltidmagnusI’m not telling you
He probably got the thatcher for free as usual so didn’t care who spent money on buying something he recommended I’ve noticed over the years he is one of these UA-camrs that’s always begging for free crap so he doesn’t care if you go and buy anything he will just be begging for more crap next year and these guys wonder why there channels are stagnated and stop growing
Who cares what he says. Do what is right for your turf.
No flowers were harmed in the making of this video 😂
That cord dragging over the flowers made my cringe🤣🤣
It’s okay they survived, and I’ve since gone cordless.
@@JimmyLewisMows 🤣
Haven’t dethatched ever and have almost no thatch. I think it’s a fad. If you cut frequently the grass that is getting mulched is just the tips which decompose quickly. If you are a person who forgets to mow and let it go and your cutting the stalky parts of grass, they’ll not break down as quick.
Dethatching is different from your video title of detaching.
Autocorrect wins again...thanks for catching it.
The only place to dethatch lawns is under trees. And really pine trees. Which is pointless in itself unless you raise the canopy of a pine tree. Getting rid of the old grass and leaves that are breaking down means you’re getting rid of your future topsoil. So unless your planning on adding chemicals to your lawn forever it’s costing you extra money and time
Imagine being so concerned about how your yard is perceived that you're willing to put this much effort into creating an ecological dead zone full of toxic chemicals. How beautiful and bountiful this yard could be if it was filled with native plants!
You are 100% correct with having more weeds if you dethatch. However, I’m still going to have some weeds regardless if I dethatch and utilizing pre-emergents. Therefore, my regimen to get rid of those will be the same regardless, with spraying the entire lawn with a post emergent. So, I’d rather have better soil, air, water conditions that will yield a better, thicker turf, rather than a thinner turf with fewer weeds and not being able to feed and water more efficiently.
I don’t dethatch or aerate my lawn for the same reason you mentioned. My lawn has a preemergent weed barrier and doing the above will open up and damage the barrier.
30 to 40 years ago was the last time I dethatched. I haven't done it since then. I don't have weeds either my front lawn is so thick The dead grass from the winter time decomposes faster than you realize the new grass that comes in spreads and pretty much consumes it we haven't had these hatch and so long you only need a detach if there's a significant that layer built up and there never is cuz we mow by the 1/3 rule and when you do that anything that you cut off breaks down goes back into the soil wasted wasted money and time
TBH you remind me of Goober. Bro your making a big deal out of nothing. Boring
which hudson star mower do you have to cut your putting green?
I had come to the exact same conclusion as you. Never had weeds in my lawn. Started dethatching the last few years and noticed a significant increase in weed population in the Spring. I started dethatching annually because of consistent fungul issues with my KBG. Dethatching has helped with mitigating summer fungus, but now I have weeds. Its a very delicate balancing act for sure! Do you encounter any fungus issues in the hot summer? Thanks for the video!
Not really susceptible to many fungal issues here. Very dry climate for the most part. I'll see melting out due to people over-watering, and snow mold, but not much else.
Not only weeds but I also noticed my lawn needs more watering because thatch is important to have (not too much), so when you get rid of thatch you're getting rid of a way the lawn can stay moist longer in summer.
A flaw about the internet is misinformation, that's why people need to experience it themselves.
I’ve had a lot of weed pressure in my lawn. More weeds than usual. I’ve never dethatched before, but I’m going to wait until later in the season.
Skipping myself this year, i don’t see the point if you can see soil and not much thatch.
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I have TTTF/KBG mix l dethatch and aerate in the spring also put down liquid prodiamine haven't noticed more abundant weeds l feel once the weed seeds are brought to the surface over time you won't have a issue please let me know your thoughts on my thinking thanks
Detaching is excellent..but I am also not doing it in my front yard this year.
(For different reasons)
After scalping and reseeding in the fall last year, then reset to a new height of 0.5”, there is no thatch this year.
As he mentioned-there is a time and place.
Great tool tho.
If you do this in the spring it can bring weed seeds to the surface especially if the lawn is thin
I use liquid dethatcher from Next that I get through Yard Mastery, haven’t used a mechanical dethatcher in a few years. Spray it down in the Summer because it uses the heat
Then I overseed in the fall
Jimmy, after dethatching or scarifying your lawn, does it really wreak havoc and can take up to a seaaon for it to recover?
I’ve never felt like it wreaked havoc. Just thins it out. But for me I’ve always felt like it fills back in pretty quickly.
Both spring aeration and dethatching comes with lots of weeds. I recommend moving both to an annual fall schedule.
I’ve been on an annual schedule for both. I’m moving to a least an every other year cadence for dethatching. Will probably continue aerating annually.