Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility Confirmed - But What About Boost Mode?

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  • @EpsiIonEagle
    @EpsiIonEagle 11 днів тому +76

    Let’s get Astral Chain at 60fps Nintendo

    • @juovlaniga6869
      @juovlaniga6869 11 днів тому +12

      Rare to see a fellow astral chain fan.
      But Nintendo will probably do bare minimum :/

    • @etual22
      @etual22 10 днів тому +1

      PLEASE

    • @Blob-jx3fg
      @Blob-jx3fg 10 днів тому +1

      Hopefully they do it. Honestly astral chain was pretty smooth for being a 30 fps game. I genuinely thought it was higher.

    • @futureskeletons66669
      @futureskeletons66669 10 днів тому +1

      @@Blob-jx3fg The camera was a disaster. Particularly with the final boss. Platinum can't do cameras. Clover games always had an element of jank - God Hand.

    • @ZFCaio
      @ZFCaio 10 днів тому

      @@juovlaniga6869 I love this game dude, bought day one, it was one of the top 5 exclusive games I played on Switch along with Marvel UA 3 (another underrated game)

  • @ZFCaio
    @ZFCaio 11 днів тому +228

    This "not fully compatible" means LABO won't be compatible, that's it
    Because Labo needs the Switch 1 Joycon, and Switch 2 is bigger

    • @relinquishh
      @relinquishh 11 днів тому +57

      Ring Fit Adventure as well.

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 11 днів тому +27

      Any ir sensor game also

    • @ZFCaio
      @ZFCaio 11 днів тому +24

      ​@@relinquishh yeah, that was what I meant
      I feel people panicking over this, but is only for half a dozen games that require Joycon

    • @ZFCaio
      @ZFCaio 11 днів тому +1

      @@mikeuk666 Which are not many, lol

    • @FlorentChardevel
      @FlorentChardevel 11 днів тому +9

      @@mikeuk666 b-but ir sensor is the superior way to play Trombone Champ...

  • @grimdicer152
    @grimdicer152 11 днів тому +199

    Bigger, better, faster, BC is all I wanted out of the successor to Switch.

    • @ZFCaio
      @ZFCaio 11 днів тому +7

      I also want a VR accessory
      I need to play Metroid Prime in VR
      And for Switch is easy
      Not it has the horse power
      Just need to make a headset where you Dock your Switch

    • @DarionNexus
      @DarionNexus 11 днів тому +3

      You want and probably aren't

    • @DmadPs
      @DmadPs 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@ZFCaio I was gonna write something explaining that I don't think it's possible, but now I realize that this is actually very possible since the meta quest is able to do VR with very similar horse power

    • @AoiShoudou
      @AoiShoudou 11 днів тому

      And stronger too!

    • @cosmicgamingunlimited
      @cosmicgamingunlimited 11 днів тому

      @@ZFCaiothe screen needs to be higher than 60hz or all the used switches are going to smell like vomit.

  • @ScottAhearnShipbuilder
    @ScottAhearnShipbuilder 11 днів тому +89

    I'd love it if this thing ran legacy Switch games better, but I have the sinking feeling Nintendo will instead have the system downclock itself to an extent that gives it a very long, toutable battery life for that mode. "Play your existing Switch games for up to 5 hours," things of that nature.

    • @x149te
      @x149te 11 днів тому +10

      It's good. Just like DS games on 3DS

    • @ZFCaio
      @ZFCaio 11 днів тому +4

      @@x149te The backward compatibility will be pretty similar IMO
      You can't play Guitar Hero On Tour on your 3DS for example, because it needs a GBA card slot for the accessory

    • @ronthorn3
      @ronthorn3 11 днів тому +20

      Ew I hope not, but that sounds so like a Nintendo move.

    • @mmo5366
      @mmo5366 11 днів тому +16

      Even if all they do is unlock frame rates so for example we can play both Zeldas at 60fps, that would be great. Sure a resolution bump would be awesome too, but being able to play this games smoothly without needing a pc and emu would be very nice.

    • @haysoos123
      @haysoos123 11 днів тому +3

      Yeah but does that make any sense, when there are games like BOTW that aren’t even hitting 30 locked? I don’t think they will be so shortsighted.

  • @crawdad
    @crawdad 9 днів тому +4

    Iterating on the switch was the only right move. Conceptually the switch is the “perfect” console. Bumping its performance and improving the hardware and chassis was all that was needed. I’m looking forward to it.

  • @goofusmaximus1482
    @goofusmaximus1482 11 днів тому +9

    Depends on which Switch titles get a boost mode patch that can take advantage of the added processing power of the Switch 2.

    • @E3Zombie
      @E3Zombie 10 днів тому

      It actually does not because even just over clocking the switch will give you better results as seen in many videos. If the CPU GPU give the game more to work with it automatically up FPS and resolution the games have what’s called dynamic resolution built into them. We might not get more frames but we will 100% get more stable frames

  • @justinholmes5614
    @justinholmes5614 11 днів тому +22

    If it plays Zelda at 60fps I’ll buy one immediately

    • @electro_chemistry
      @electro_chemistry 9 днів тому +1

      I usually prefer higher framerate over resolution, in case of Zelda I'd prefer a higher res though. 1440p @60 would be the sweet spot, but I highly doubt the Switch 2 can handle it

  • @TIDbitRETRO
    @TIDbitRETRO 11 днів тому +19

    I’d love to see the return of light gun games someday. Technology exists to get them working on modern displays. If Nintendo put out a Zapper-like gun with a new Duck Hunt that would be awesome.

    • @uglybad4
      @uglybad4 11 днів тому

      didn't the Wii have a lot of "light gun style" arcade shooters? I know IR isn't the same thing as a light detector or whatever you'd call it but the experience was pretty darn close

  • @WigWoo1
    @WigWoo1 11 днів тому +15

    I’m wondering if they’re going to make the switch two cartridges a different shape like they did with the 3DS. Because if not then I’m wondering what happens if you put a switch 2 cartridge into the original

    • @MusicJunkie37
      @MusicJunkie37 11 днів тому +7

      What would happen?
      Well, probably nothing even if it'd fit. Or give you an error message saying the cart is not compatible with the hardware.

    • @ChrisCarlos64
      @ChrisCarlos64 11 днів тому +3

      Probably just an error. The "game card is not inserted" default error with older firmware and maybe newer firmware will have a way of recognizing it is a Switch 2 game and have a better message.

    • @cheslynholland1487
      @cheslynholland1487 11 днів тому +1

      It will probably be the same card reader as switch 1. Otherwise the console gonna have two card readers.

  • @videofiletransfer
    @videofiletransfer 11 днів тому +8

    Switch 2 cartridges should taste different, instead of bitter they will be spicy hot.🥵

  • @Nateanderthal
    @Nateanderthal 11 днів тому +27

    There are quite a few games on the Nintendo switch that if you were to just boost them to 60fps the game speed would also increase since it's tied into the CPU and RAM clock speeds.
    Those games are going to need patches or it's going to need to be in the Switch 2 firmware itself.

    • @ZFCaio
      @ZFCaio 11 днів тому +7

      I was thinking about that
      A couple games don't have the 30FPS lock
      Like Links Awakening
      So there are some chances...

    • @DanDaMaN95cov
      @DanDaMaN95cov 11 днів тому +6

      Yeah try telling Game Freak to patch Scarlet and Violet, won't happen. They already made thier millions and honestly they don't give a shit how it runs, masses are gonna buy the slop anyway.

    • @TheGamingTeam101Tgt101
      @TheGamingTeam101Tgt101 11 днів тому +1

      @@DanDaMaN95cov someones mad

    • @anonymist-n8z
      @anonymist-n8z 11 днів тому +10

      @@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101 nah, hes just telling the truth

    • @Shadowninja1200
      @Shadowninja1200 11 днів тому +4

      @@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101 People should be mad at the state of those games. Pokemon is a massively successful franchise and all they can do is just have a stuttery low resolution mess? The worse part is that I enjoyed the games themselves but I had to take more frequent breaks because of all the frame drops giving me a headache.

  • @Yagami1Sama
    @Yagami1Sama 11 днів тому +29

    This is the topic that will people riot. If the games on Switch 2 run the same way as OG Switch, people will be mad. If Nintendo charge a few for a patch, , people will be mad. This will be something to watch.
    It would be very nice, if out of the box, some games could take advantage of mor processing power. But it is really hard to know what Nintendo will do.

    • @AGuy-s5v
      @AGuy-s5v 11 днів тому +5

      Back during the hayday of the 3ds line of consoles, the games pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon did run on the original 3ds, but the game experienced slowdowns and other things which became very apparent as both the 3ds and New 3dsXL were in use as they battled eachother using the pokmon games mentioned.
      So they can and occasionally do let thier more powerful consoles perform, but my example was from a processing speed consideration, not a graphic quality perspective.

    • @Sly2Cooper
      @Sly2Cooper 11 днів тому +3

      Of course Nintendo will charge their loyal fanbase for everything. Especially for enhancements.

    • @Craigy2818
      @Craigy2818 11 днів тому +3

      Leaks suggest Nintendo will make the dick move of re-releasing Switch games on Switch 2 cartridges and they're the only versions which will run better. Sounds about right for today's Nintendo. Iwata would be spinning in his grave.

    • @cjvvaliente
      @cjvvaliente 11 днів тому +7

      @@Craigy2818 Show me the source

    • @ElAssoWipe-o
      @ElAssoWipe-o 11 днів тому

      Games like Bomb Rush Cyberfunk has a 60FPS mode but it's almost useless as the framerate chugs in most levels so I assume that Switch 2 would allow it to run at a locked 60. Otherwise, why would the devs of that game put such a useless mode?

  • @Nu_Merick
    @Nu_Merick 11 днів тому +14

    4:00 the single most important change everyone should be curious about the switch 2😉

  • @OnderHassan
    @OnderHassan 11 днів тому +9

    I'm excited to see what Nintendo will create with the new hardware. Will be a glorious generation.

  • @GamingRobioto
    @GamingRobioto 11 днів тому +45

    This is really important to me. If I don't have to put up with sub 20FPS in Karikiko Village or when using the Ultrahand in TOTK or the aggressive dynamic resolution in the Xenoblade games would be awesome. Otherwise I'll continue to emulate on PC.

    • @PolitiClank
      @PolitiClank 11 днів тому +1

      Monolith Soft are an incredibly talented team when it comes to optimisation, so I do trust them to handle excellent next gen upgrades for their premier projects (they are deeply involved in the Zelda games as well as leading Xenoblade, so I suspect they will task the same people to sort all of these games for Switch 2).

    • @JS-bh3pz
      @JS-bh3pz 11 днів тому

      Same here. I can forget about the graphics upgrade if I can play the recent Zelda games and Xenoblade properly at 60fps. Totally agree about the Xenoblade which did increase the drawing distance at the cost of everything looking blurry.

    • @Tacoking8891
      @Tacoking8891 11 днів тому +2

      While I didn’t have any serious issues with either if those games, getting them to run even better would be reason for me to go back and play. I just started Xenoblade 3 and would pause playing if that was confirmed.

    • @JS-bh3pz
      @JS-bh3pz 11 днів тому +1

      @@Tacoking8891 hopefully they will do like CD Projekt Red that releases next gen updates free to people who already own the game and won’t make us pay extra like Sony does with upgrading next gen updates of old games.

    • @christianr.5868
      @christianr.5868 11 днів тому +2

      @@Tacoking8891Xenonlade 2 looks disgusting at times in handheld. I hear 3 holds up better

  • @Scarftail
    @Scarftail 11 днів тому +24

    Considering the leaked motherboard doesn’t even have a Tegra X1, it would be a HUGE missed opportunity if Switch games didn’t run at their highest possible resolutions and framerates. They could even run the games in TV mode on that 1080p screen.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 11 днів тому +4

      If games run at dynamic resolution and are not locked in framerate then the Switch 2 will run those games at a higher native resolution and framerate.

    • @vittosphonecollection57289
      @vittosphonecollection57289 11 днів тому

      @@Scarftail That would be so cool!
      Handheld mode would get rebranded as "energy saving mode", while normally it would run dock mode in the handheld mode for Switch games, while Switch 2 games would keep doing what Switch games do now

  • @Mr3-j4m
    @Mr3-j4m 11 днів тому +4

    Switch 2 already enough for my coming 7 years of gaming because I only gaming in handheld. So I no need 4K, no need 120 - 240fps.

  • @eathenalexander2836
    @eathenalexander2836 11 днів тому +10

    For some reason, tons of people don’t realize that even the oled switch, isn’t fully backward compatible with Og switch games. such as labo. Games such as that is the reason I believe that’s being mentioned as switch two not being fully compatible.

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 9 днів тому +1

      Isn’t the switch lite is the one that had compatibility issues.

    • @eathenalexander2836
      @eathenalexander2836 8 днів тому

      @ both, but more so switch lite.

  • @harrybosch4595
    @harrybosch4595 11 днів тому +5

    Olie is so professional with all the facts and a clear explanation.

  • @Alex_dlc
    @Alex_dlc 11 днів тому +34

    I don’t want Switch games to look better on Switch 2. All I want is to be able to play games like Breath of the Wild, Echoes of Wisdom, or even Scarlett/Violet without the stuttering and frame drops they are known for. A stable frame rate is so much more important than render distance or texture resolution or anything else.

    • @kevinbuchanan67
      @kevinbuchanan67 11 днів тому +19

      'I don't want Switch games to look better on Switch 2...all I want is for Switch games to look and run better on Switch 2!'

    • @erickmoralvocal8586
      @erickmoralvocal8586 11 днів тому +5

      The stuttering has more to do with the game design, this happens even on emulation using superior hardware. I don’t own a 4080 but a friend does and we cannot get rid of the stuttering on totk

    • @AD4-
      @AD4- 11 днів тому +2

      Why not have both via tweaking settings.

    • @PulseOfMe
      @PulseOfMe 11 днів тому

      ​@kevinbuchanan67 he wants better frame rate and non stuttering how did you confuse that with graphics ? Idiot.

    • @Melonposting
      @Melonposting 11 днів тому

      Explain how having less stuttering does not look better

  • @andrewtharby1953
    @andrewtharby1953 11 днів тому +10

    Backwards compatibility is a must these days.

  • @epobirs
    @epobirs 11 днів тому +1

    I would have been genuinely shocked if the Switch 2 were not backward compatible. Where Nintendo hasn't sought a major architectural leap, such as the N64, their backward compatibility history is pretty good. The Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U each had a strong continuity of libraries and their growth. The transition from NES to SNES was intended to feature backward compatibility on the SNES. This, along with familiarity to 6502 assembly coders, was the major reason to use the 65816 CPU. The issue killing the support was not technical but the economics of mask ROM as a distribution format, making it undesirable to compete with the mountain of NES carts in the second hand market.
    The N64 could potentially have had backward compatibility but not without significantly raising the launch MSRP of the hardware, something that has always punished Nintendo when they were not careful about hardware cost of entry. The N64 was a major learning experience for Nintendo but when the time came to move on, the primary hardware partner, Silicon Graphics, had lost much of their mojo as a market leader in graphics and starting from scratch with new partners in IBM and ATI (now part of AMD) was the sensible choice of who had both a strong tech portfolio and great willingness to customize. (The latter was a reason Intel worked out poorly for Microsoft on the original Xbox.)
    Today, with digital download sales being such a minuscule cost compared to mask ROM era, giving the customer base continued use of their library is a major selling point. Being able to continue selling a ten year old game that has been in profits since shortly after launch is a very enticing feature for the console maker and publishers.
    For enhancement of old games, Nintendo does tend to be a bit greedy. I wouldn't be surprised if there were many new SKUs that are 90% the same binaries sold on the Switch and for existing owners of the original release a small charge to upgrade. Microsoft has been the most generous in this regard, with Sony falling in between, so I won't be surprised if Nintendo take up the opposite position from Microsoft.

  • @Adamtendo_player_1
    @Adamtendo_player_1 11 днів тому +2

    All i wanted was bigger, 60fps and backwards compatibility, thats enough for me.

  • @briengakaplan-b1550
    @briengakaplan-b1550 11 днів тому +45

    Nintendo has their second best selling console ever with Switch. They’re not trying to screw up the gold mine. Switch 2 is more Switch. Better Switch. More powerful Switch. It will keep their reign on top of console gaming solidified.

    • @4IndieForever
      @4IndieForever 11 днів тому +5

      Please stop answering the same question over and over again. Can you give an answer to the question if it will update classic third party games like a Bioshock, Witcher 3, Assassins creed collection etc etc?

    • @BleakVision
      @BleakVision 11 днів тому +3

      But are the puddles reflective?

    • @briengakaplan-b1550
      @briengakaplan-b1550 11 днів тому +7

      @@BleakVisionI don’t think Nintendo cares 😂

    • @Sly2Cooper
      @Sly2Cooper 11 днів тому +4

      ..and also more drifty joycons..

    • @DrAnimePhD
      @DrAnimePhD 11 днів тому +3

      I mean, the Wii was a goldmine and they screwed up the Wii U. The DS was also a goldmine and the 3DS had a rocky start for the first couple of years that it famously had to have a major price cut just months after launch.

  • @AERoVALKYRiE
    @AERoVALKYRiE 11 днів тому +55

    tldr: we don't know

    • @kaydog890
      @kaydog890 11 днів тому +7

      Saved me 8 minutes of my life, thank you.
      I downvoted video and am leaving now

    • @jessdoesvids
      @jessdoesvids 11 днів тому

      SHOCKING: three youtubers cannot predict the future

  • @Dbentzjr
    @Dbentzjr 11 днів тому

    I would appreciate some form of smoothing over the older games, in such a way for example, how the M Classic does it, but it could be done automatically with the Switch 2 hardware. That would at least negate the need for something like an aftermarket scaler to fix the messy blocky edges of Nintendo's legacy game collection. If smoothing makes it improved, then a jump from say 30 fps to 60 fps in boost mode would be an outstanding upgrade for older games that struggle to run at an acceptable pace. No need to push it hard, only need smooth 1080p for a good experience.

  • @owwmykneecap
    @owwmykneecap 11 днів тому +1

    The system can run Switch 1 games at double frame rate and higher resolution easily. But devs needs to update the game via simple internal tool but I'm sure that not all will do it.

  • @jnrosenb
    @jnrosenb 11 днів тому

    I think it makes more sense for the bc coverage issue to be related to titles using some obscure, low level switch feature (which maybe has not been perfectly emulated in the new archutecture), vs a joycon issue.
    For the latter, all they need to do is make joycons compatible with switch 2 (and we know they most likely are).
    Whichever it is, I do think its gonna be a small amount of games, and probably some of the more obscure ones.

  • @Vaxtin
    @Vaxtin 11 днів тому +1

    Yeah I just want current games to have more stable gameplay. There isn't any saving Pokemon Scarlet/Violet for instance but at least have them run at 30 FPS throughout the entire game. Same for other games that have varying performance. Future games I'd accept a hand held experience of 1080p30 for heavily detailed environments, or 1080p60 on everything else.

  • @VerbeekTruther
    @VerbeekTruther 11 днів тому +5

    Only if it has blast processing

  • @adamb6119
    @adamb6119 11 днів тому +1

    I hope two things will improve for Switch one games:
    - We will get solid 60FPS in all those titles that fail to achieve that.
    - Dynamic resolution will not be so aggressive in titles that use it
    I don't believe there will be many 60 FPS patches for 1st party games. Nintendo would rather release them again for full price.

  • @thumper5555
    @thumper5555 11 днів тому +1

    Nintendo could knock it out the park with Download Play!

  • @blakeandcamp
    @blakeandcamp 11 днів тому +1

    DF is kind of milking the Switch 2 reveal with these videos but there's a whole lot of nothing in terms of actual info to go off of right now so it feels pointless.

  • @Will-sc3hw
    @Will-sc3hw 8 днів тому

    Overclocking switch 1 proves the higher clocks/performance really helps in demanding titles. They literally lose nothing by doing so. The only issue is 60fps totk and similar games need a small patch to run correctly at 60 without speeding up cutscenes. This is a really easy fix.

  • @gabinidal6908
    @gabinidal6908 11 днів тому +15

    These exclusives should be running 60fps as the standard.

    • @philharrison2991
      @philharrison2991 11 днів тому +1

      Go run your own company then

    • @jyllianrainbow7371
      @jyllianrainbow7371 11 днів тому +1

      Most of Nintendo's exclusives already targeted 60fps on the Switch 1. In fact, they've been pretty consistently targeting 60fps in most of their games since the GameCube era.

    • @dolphin666dead
      @dolphin666dead 11 днів тому

      @@jyllianrainbow7371 Except towards the latter portion of the Switch's life, 1st party games like Link's Awakening and Kirby & the Forgotten Land that run on 30 fps became the norm.

    • @Shadowninja1200
      @Shadowninja1200 11 днів тому

      @@jyllianrainbow7371 You're on the wrong channel if you wanna lie to people about performance on the switch... All people have to do is point to a digital foundry video on a 1st party game.

    • @norsefrog
      @norsefrog 11 днів тому

      ​@@philharrison2991Nintendo could have done everything perfectly but they chose not to over greed. It's capitalism. Do the bare minimum and reviewers won't complain.

  • @saviordream
    @saviordream 11 днів тому +3

    The unknown status of whether there is any performance upgrade over the first generation Switch, and the probable lack of an OLED screen, are what are keeping me from saying I'm definitely picking the Switch 2 up at launch. If its missing either of these key features, I'm more than likely willing to wait until a mid-gen refresh, or until something really compelling gamewise comes along. Even then, I don't have problems buying the games (physically) and then sitting on them until I get the console at some point in the future if I feel it might be difficult to get a particular title at a later date.

    • @NeoKat75
      @NeoKat75 11 днів тому

      I kean, it's obviously gonna be more powerful. Leaks show as much too

  • @BadEyeBill
    @BadEyeBill 11 днів тому +1

    There are a lot of games that I would love to play but I decided to wait for switch 2. If it doesn't give a noticeable improvement to them I'll just emulate them at some point. I would hope nintendo would realize that it would be a huge selling point to show people that their old games can run at higher frame rates and resolution. If they don't want us emulating their games maybe they should think about giving us a better experience than emulation.

  • @masterquake7
    @masterquake7 10 днів тому

    I imagine Switch 1 joycons could probably still pair with Switch 2 for some games (hence, not 'fully compatible'). I suspect that the IR sensor falls into that boat too. The only non compatible games I would suspect are like Labo which requires the console itself, in some cases, to be a specific size. Perhaps something like Clubhouse Games isn't fully compatible.

  • @HeroOfLegend115
    @HeroOfLegend115 10 днів тому

    It’s nice knowing that this seems to be the first Nintendo generation shift that won’t see us starting over the drip feed for the retro catalogue. I’m not a fan of the NSO subscription model, but that is at least one benefit. Keep what we have now and keep building up.

  • @CG_9870
    @CG_9870 11 днів тому +1

    If you compare with series x and ps 5 backwards compat not every game gets an fps or rez boost but I think we can at least count on the faster loading times and smoother gameplay due to the updated hardware.

  • @jyllianrainbow7371
    @jyllianrainbow7371 11 днів тому +1

    I heard all of Nintendo's Switch 1 games will run at native 4K 60fps on the Switch 2, even in handheld mode.

  • @jonato5298
    @jonato5298 11 днів тому +1

    The Wii, which was natively compatible with GameCube games, had a special chip to enter GameCube mode. This chip underclocked the CPU and limited the RAM so the system would behave just like a GameCube. This design was due to piracy concerns, and yep one of the first methods to homebrew the Wii involved using tweezers to bypass the chip.
    Also the 3ds had to enter ds mode to run older games and yet again enter ds mode had an exploit to hombrew 3ds.
    Sadly i don't think they are gonna risk it and give full resources to switch 1 games.

  • @TwoPak-iq4ih
    @TwoPak-iq4ih 11 днів тому +5

    I can totally see Nintendo not having performance boosts for Switch games on Switch 2. It’ll probably be like the Wii U, you can play your old Wii games on it but it won’t look or play any better

    • @keiichimorisato98
      @keiichimorisato98 11 днів тому

      Games with dynamic resolution should see a benifit in hitting the resolution cap more consistently.

    • @skilarbabcock
      @skilarbabcock 11 днів тому +4

      Thats different. VWii mode in the Wii U is an actual Wii built into the Wii U console that it transitions to. There's no change because it's a Wii console. Not using the specs of Wii U at all

  • @thumper5555
    @thumper5555 11 днів тому

    Probably a boost mode that would apply to all or most games is to tell the software that it's in Docked mode even when it's in hand held mode.

  • @acido44
    @acido44 11 днів тому

    I wish you had talked about the possibility that the Switch 2 plays og Switch games at docked specs but in handheld mode. I think that's an achievable way that they could boost old games

  • @woody5476
    @woody5476 11 днів тому

    I'm thinking the whole thing about some games not being fully compatible is mainly about the IR camera.

  • @TheSubZero187
    @TheSubZero187 11 днів тому +1

    Will it be able to run the graphics heavy powerhouse that is Pokemon Scarlet/Violet?

  • @MasterStacona
    @MasterStacona 11 днів тому

    Every Switch game "works" on the Switch 2, but the current joy-con do not work on the Switch 2 so any game and/or feature in a game that required specifically the current joy-con size will not work on the Switch 2. Even though you can still load the game up - so things like Ring Fit Adventure and Nintendo LABO Kits require the current joy-con to work.

  • @The_Ostrich
    @The_Ostrich 11 днів тому +63

    At a minimum its gonna play Switch games at higher framerates and resolutions and eliminate load times with no extra work done, essentially what a overclocked Switch 1 allows you to do, but to a greater extend. There are leaks though that Nintendo developed a API that allows Switch 1 games to get next-gen updates for the Switch 2, essentially what Playstation and Xbox are doing.

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 11 днів тому +28

      That's definitely not guaranteed. Especially "eliminating load speeds", that's not gonna happen.
      Edit: but it would shock me if they didn't at least let totk run at a stable frame rate; that has to be a priority for them. So it seems unlikely that they'd flat out downclock and restrict memory for all legacy titles, unless they require games to "opt in" to use switch 2 hardware fully.

    • @Ferrichrome
      @Ferrichrome 11 днів тому +3

      You’re right, I didn’t realize it was possible to overclock a switch. Hopefully Nintendo enables these games to operate more smoothly… my issue is with some games like TOTK for example that have pretty bad frame rate dips when there’s a lot going on. It would be nice just to have a stable 30fps.

    • @Ferrichrome
      @Ferrichrome 11 днів тому +2

      @@DanKaschel why not? I’d say the load speeds are the easiest to improve, for example in a PS4 you can get better load times by simply changing to a better hard drive.

    • @MerryBlind
      @MerryBlind 11 днів тому +9

      @@FerrichromeFor optimal compatibility, they might force the hardware to underclock itself and be as close to the original Switch specs as possible to prevent potential bugs or just for parity reasons.

    • @easyygo3008
      @easyygo3008 11 днів тому +1

      That's 100% not gonna happen.
      Games will need a patch. Then, the games won't load faster

  • @Mmmjakis
    @Mmmjakis 11 днів тому

    Nintendo has to make that blanket statement even if one game like Labo wouldn’t work, so it makes sense, and I don’t think we should be worried like Oli and Rich said. Labo, Ring Fit, etc

  • @jakesplace9250
    @jakesplace9250 7 днів тому

    I wanna see breath of the wild with vast draw distances, 60fps and some kind of TAA. Definitely possible.

  • @BoJangles42
    @BoJangles42 11 днів тому +1

    What I want:
    - backwards compatibility w/ boost mode for Switch1 games, physical and digital
    - PS4 level raw performance + DLSS
    - larger screen and joycons, with Hall Effect controls
    - OLED panel, even if it’s a 2nd, more expensive SKU
    - 90hz screen
    - Bluetooth enabled from the start
    - WiFi 6/7
    - 60fps when in Docked mode, >45fps in handheld (especially for old Switch games), VSync

  • @MarkDavidBlack
    @MarkDavidBlack 11 днів тому +57

    If TOTK doesn't run better than the original Switch then I won't be buying a Switch 2.

    • @Stefantius
      @Stefantius 11 днів тому +5

      1080p 60fps with draw distance maxed out minimum

    • @0liveRoudoudou
      @0liveRoudoudou 11 днів тому +9

      Sure, keep dreaming

    • @Scarftail
      @Scarftail 11 днів тому +2

      Exclusive games, but whatever. It’s up to you.

    • @ahrlj24
      @ahrlj24 11 днів тому +7

      It will after you buy it again.

    • @MarkDavidBlack
      @MarkDavidBlack 11 днів тому

      @@ahrlj24 Happy to if that's the result. Most games I wouldn't, but TOTK is my favorite game of all time and it's not even close.

  • @lilnoobito
    @lilnoobito 11 днів тому

    I submit to you NieR Automata. Specifically the return segment of the flooded city back to the “main” hub area, it chugs so hard in there

  • @Grandeur023
    @Grandeur023 11 днів тому

    I hate to say it but I think the best we can expect is less frame drops. I doubt anything will have frame rate caps altered. I doubt we see a boost mode or anything.

  • @elcazador3349
    @elcazador3349 11 днів тому +1

    Nintendo has that proprietary DLSS patent. I wonder if there will be a proprietary frame gen as well.

  • @Zidro512
    @Zidro512 11 днів тому +1

    Does the video answer the question or waste time asking what we all want to know?

  • @Jolly-Green-Steve
    @Jolly-Green-Steve 11 днів тому

    Raw Trills needs to make Crusin Blast Ultra for the Switch 2 with upgraded arcade graphics and some extra tracks and cars. Also Nintendo give us a new F-Zero/Pilotwings/Wave Race for gosh sake!!

  • @Smokinjoewhite
    @Smokinjoewhite 11 днів тому +2

    I think the size is a good thing, the switch had tiny controllers and cramped my hands badly, it also gives a little more room for a larger battery, not to mention that a larger screen is really nice to play on. I have a feeling switch 1 games will run as though they are docked, using the full 1080p of the display and hopefully run with better dynamic resolution scaling and a stable framerate.

  • @urazoktay7940
    @urazoktay7940 10 днів тому

    Amazing video, thank you Digital Foundry.

  • @melee9183
    @melee9183 11 днів тому +1

    I think itll make games like botw, totk, and xenoblade all have their max switch 1 resolution and framerates. I dont think nintendo is gonna go the extra mile and add anything extra tbh. If they do itd probably be a switch 2 rerelease.

  • @xxnike0629xx
    @xxnike0629xx 11 днів тому +1

    Given how popular the Switch is, I'm pretty sure Nintendo is going to be careful about these things. They don't want to disappoint Switch gamers.

  • @dante19890
    @dante19890 11 днів тому

    its most likely gonna run games to their target framerates and help keep them in the upper part of the DRS.
    games like bayonetta 3 might run at a locked 60.

  • @Max-hy6uy
    @Max-hy6uy 11 днів тому

    Wonder if we will get a switch 2 lite in the future as well for an all in one unit.

  • @100Aliens
    @100Aliens 9 днів тому

    switch 2 will be my first Nintendo purchase since the n64

  • @Djaermi
    @Djaermi 11 днів тому

    At best, I would expect Switch 2 games to run Switch games at native performance but upscaled using DLSS for a resolution boost. I wouldn't expect framerate improvements because Nintendo really likes to lock those down at all costs. I'm hoping for a low power mode to offer good battery life on older titles, at least.

  • @sjneow
    @sjneow 11 днів тому +2

    Nintendo handhelds has always maintained backwards compatibility until the DS, DS initially supported GBA cartridges but later models removed the support, but 3DS is backwards compatible with DS again, so I dont know why people think Nintendo wont make Switch 2 BC.

    • @jeromenancyfr
      @jeromenancyfr 11 днів тому

      The Switch itself have no backward compatibility with the consoles before it. And honestly, if the form factor and the hardware was not similar to the Switch, the BC would not have been obvious for the Switch 2.

    • @theonewhowrotethis5681
      @theonewhowrotethis5681 11 днів тому

      @@jeromenancyfr That's because of the switch from discs to cartridges. Even though the Wii was Nintendo's first home console to have backwards compatibility, they kept supporting the prior system since each system (GameCube, Wii, Wii U) used discs for their consoles. Since the Switch stuck with cartridges (and the Wii U was pretty much a failure financially), it didn't make feasible sense for them to make their system compatible with the Wii U.
      The other reason is that the GameCube, Wii, and Wii U are all PowerPC-based game consoles. Having the same system architecture would make BC easier overall for them, so that's why the Wii and Wii U supported their prior gen consoles. Nintendo swapping to Tegra ARM for the Switch meant that they would've needed to do extra work to get the few Wii U games that sold to play on Switch (as well as create a disc drive for the system and have it work with the Wii U game pad that wasn't sold separately, which is way too cumbersome). Instead, they just redid their exclusives for Switch and resold them to greater success.

    • @jeromenancyfr
      @jeromenancyfr 11 днів тому

      @theonewhowrotethis5681 The 3DS had cartridges, and the Switch is not compatible with it. So, yes , BC is granted except when Nintendo doesn't feel like doing it.

  • @alfredogxr8891
    @alfredogxr8891 11 днів тому

    I dont think games will improve the frame rates but my expectation is for the framerates to be more stable. If the fps improve it would mean that developers should all update their games to add that feature. The switch 2 wouldnt do it itself

  • @jasparellitaylor3228
    @jasparellitaylor3228 11 днів тому +1

    Hopefully,Resident evil 0 will run naturally faster as it is plagued by loading times on switch 1

  • @mrgoodlife8379
    @mrgoodlife8379 11 днів тому

    I would just like it powerful enough to get triple A’s on release days. New doom would be unreal

  • @nocfox3050
    @nocfox3050 11 днів тому +2

    I think the games that are "not supported" is Labo and "Not fully supported" is like Ring Fit Adventure
    Maybe you can connect your old Joycon to Switch 2 via bluetooth and play Ring Fit Adventure that way? Just an assumption of mine lol

    • @mikeuk666
      @mikeuk666 11 днів тому

      1/2 switch with ir sensor

    • @nocfox3050
      @nocfox3050 11 днів тому

      @mikeuk666
      Oh yeah, I forgot about that one
      Yeah, Probably won't really work unless the Joycon can actually connect to the Switch 2
      Unless there are specific games that use the Switch 2 but I'm not entirely sure, I never purchased or played 1 2 Switch

  • @questworldmatrix
    @questworldmatrix 11 днів тому

    Will cease that adaptive resolution scaling at least. But hopefully will bring something like the Witcher 3 from Switch graphics to PS4 graphics with a big patch.

  • @praise-vu8bh
    @praise-vu8bh 11 днів тому

    It will be just a straight switch 1 emulation on switch 2 with no boost mode. As stated below Nintendo will re release old games with 4K 30fps support at full price

  • @mexdrago3009
    @mexdrago3009 11 днів тому

    Hope fully they bring back light gun type games. Wii was awesome and needed more shooting games. I bought house of the dead for the switch and aiming wasn't good.

  • @user-lh3xs9km6z
    @user-lh3xs9km6z 11 днів тому

    THAT DLSS PATENT? ... could It be a in hardware solution so no code update needed?

  • @dr_melski
    @dr_melski 11 днів тому

    imnho: running a game like Botw on this hardware, even without any optimisation from nintendo, would run smoother in areas where framedrops happen, like the lost woods. as those performance issues were due to the hardware not being able to keep up. a newer chipset with same architecture would run this smoothly just because of the higher clocks, memory speed etc. will it automatically boost games that ran 1080p 30fps smoothly up to 4k 60fps with dlss and everything? doubtful if theres no patch to optimise for it, but i think that could be an easy patch for most devs. will nintendo do it for its own back catalog? i think only for main IPs like zelda, mario, etc. the rest will just run as well as they can on beefier hardware without any upscaling or improvements. i expect games like skyrim or witcher 3 maybe do a little update, cause they already do have the code for higher settings from other consoles, would probably cost them next to nothing to have a patch with switch2 optimised settings.

  • @devinmurray5280
    @devinmurray5280 11 днів тому

    God imagine even if the bigger games like breath of the wild ran at 60fps. Or give like a Xbox and PlayStation option of run it at like 4k dlss or run 1080p 60fps.
    Or maybe an enhanced update for some games like longer draw distance. Because I could emulate on PC but then I’d have to move my emulation small form factor PC around and that’s not easy (even though it’s smaller than consoles).

  • @saganage6779
    @saganage6779 11 днів тому

    About the size of the PS Portal it looks like screen wise. A perfect size IMO.

  • @benjii_fii
    @benjii_fii 11 днів тому +5

    Why do nintendo shy away from using more/most of their clock speed?

    • @sarez6767
      @sarez6767 11 днів тому +15

      battery life I guess

    • @MerryBlind
      @MerryBlind 11 днів тому +4

      Battery life, fan noise, heat management for longer lifespan.

    • @OllieOtterOxen
      @OllieOtterOxen 11 днів тому

      ​@@MerryBlindthe fan doesn't let it get hotter. It's been thoroughly tested by the community with modded Switches

    • @MerryBlind
      @MerryBlind 11 днів тому +1

      @@OllieOtterOxen Ok then the fan must be louder to compensate.

  • @LeonDeka
    @LeonDeka 10 днів тому

    My gut is saying Nintendo will ensure all 1st party stuff is 100% compatable. 2nd party will be around 70%. 3rd party 40-50%.
    Also assume 3rd parties might not patch games for switch 2 as Nintendo might charge huge patch fees...

  • @josephchrisman1174
    @josephchrisman1174 11 днів тому +5

    Do we think the WiFi will be a big enough improvement for the games like Kingdom Hearts that only got streaming ports on the Switch?

    • @Torso6131
      @Torso6131 11 днів тому

      Honestly it didn't seem worth it to me to use it hooked up via Ethernet, and I really wouldn't be surprised to see them shutter those services.

    • @barrynolette4708
      @barrynolette4708 11 днів тому +6

      It would be amazing if they released updated versions that run locally. Even a port of the PS3 level versions would be amazing and totally possible.

    • @PolitiClank
      @PolitiClank 11 днів тому +3

      I hope so, but I don't know from any of the specs leaks as to what kind of WiFi tech we are working with. That being said, Square did say they were prospectively interested in native ports (I believe the cloud thing was budget related not power related) so better support isn't that unlikely.

    • @josephchrisman1174
      @josephchrisman1174 11 днів тому

      @ that does give me a small ray of hope then, do you know where you heard about the interest in native ports? I missed that along the way to the games coming to switch.

    • @MerryBlind
      @MerryBlind 11 днів тому

      The Wifi chip in the original Switch is known to suck and be unstable. It’s safe to assume the Switch 2 will have a newer better chip.

  • @itchyisvegeta
    @itchyisvegeta 11 днів тому

    It will probably run the Switch 1 games in docked mode while Switch 2 is in handheld mode.

  • @LEE90s
    @LEE90s 11 днів тому +1

    Why people thinking Nintendo switch 2 will have improve backwards compatibility like stable fps and faster load times, Nintendo has never done previously like that why will it now, yes it has done backwards compatibility but game ran same as before

  • @shawnbrasuell8951
    @shawnbrasuell8951 9 днів тому

    what about load times? that's what I'm curious about.

  • @ParatrooperNinja
    @ParatrooperNinja 8 днів тому

    Nintendo needs to shift the focus towards being able to play their own first party games at a reasonable framerate. It’s completely unacceptable to have their headline games like legend of Zelda and Pokémon running at 20 frames per second.

  • @danjonkovich-gaming
    @danjonkovich-gaming 9 днів тому

    I'm sure certain Switch titles will be patched to take advantage of the more powerful hardware. Zelda at 60fps would be nice. Also, Minecraft will likely receive a performance patch as that game hasn't run very well since a few updates ago.

  • @leeashleyanthony
    @leeashleyanthony 11 днів тому +3

    vSwitch like vWii on WiiU 😄

  • @raineg0689
    @raineg0689 10 днів тому +1

    I love when some Clowns in the comments section refer to the Switch as a "Console" when clearly both Switch 1 & 2 have mobile hardware which is designed specifically for handhelds, but sure call it a console and live out your delusions to the fullest! Thats like calling the psVita a console because you can play it on your tv. 😂

  • @coreydraper6661
    @coreydraper6661 11 днів тому +1

    Give Nintendo credit. They could have ignored the entire switch 1 games and made them digital, but they want you to be able to buy switch 1 games as well.

    • @lapis591
      @lapis591 11 днів тому

      They are digital. What are you talking about?

  • @vinny9500
    @vinny9500 11 днів тому

    As much I as I would want the play the older games at +60fps. I would accept them playing at a stable 30fps. I never really touched my switch because the games would dip below 30fps and would feel horrible to play.

  • @Chamberz55
    @Chamberz55 9 днів тому

    2:14 so GC games did not run better on Wii, and Wii games did not run better on WiiU, BUT GameBoy games did have improvement on GBColor and SuperGB, no? No idea on GBA on DS, or DS on 3DS but these would be interesting experiments/comparisons.

  • @jeremiecorkery9421
    @jeremiecorkery9421 11 днів тому

    At the very least, you would hope games that don’t quite hit 30fps will on the new machine

  • @Givejordr
    @Givejordr 8 днів тому

    I'm just here for Astral Chain, Bayonetta 3, and TOTK at locked 60 fps

  • @electro_chemistry
    @electro_chemistry 9 днів тому

    I just hope Nintendo is going to provide upgrade patches bumping up res and/or framerate (just like Sony did it with PS4 to PS5 updates or even better: XBOX Smart Delivery). I might accept paying $10 for those upgrades, but knowing Nintendo we might be stuck with the Switch 1 vanilla versions - so they can charge us full price for BotW/TotK, Metroid Dread, Mario Odyssey, etc. Remasters again 😓

  • @tiwitiwi6202
    @tiwitiwi6202 11 днів тому

    would it fix the switch (1) bad resulotion of some games like xenoblade chronicles 2?

  • @jean-philipperottiers614
    @jean-philipperottiers614 11 днів тому

    Who says Switch 2 games will come on cartridge? I mean, it probably will. But the presence of the slot could also only be for the backward compatibility. From the reveal trailer, nothing is certain.

    • @MusicJunkie37
      @MusicJunkie37 11 днів тому +1

      Pretty sure Nintendo knows removing physical games would be a death-sentence.

    • @autumnalgloom5360
      @autumnalgloom5360 11 днів тому

      Nintendo has already stated to investors that they would not change the way they are distributing games on the Switch Successor. That was roughly 6 month agp.

  • @bettybunbun9664
    @bettybunbun9664 10 днів тому

    If PS5 backwards compatibility is anything go by, Switch 1 games wont get any boost whatsoever unless you buy a special remaster.

  • @mrjemandem4254
    @mrjemandem4254 11 днів тому

    i would be happy when the games that target 30 fps 1080p, looking at you Fire Emblem: The Tree Houses would run with out stutters..

  • @xXSonTJXxx
    @xXSonTJXxx 11 днів тому

    I hope some of the games that where unplayable on switch 1 will run faster on switch 2 with less lag like witcher 3 and arkham knight

  • @arborstone6546
    @arborstone6546 11 днів тому

    They did something out of the normal here how can we say they won't run faster or better. Also the original ly games i see not being fully back compatible would have to be only a few games such as labo and the fit .