Yasir Qadhi: The Verse of the Covenant (7:172) | Ibn Taymiyya | The Academy and the Madrasa
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2023
- In this video I have the pleasure of chatting with Dr. Yasir Qadhi on the exegesis of Quran 7:172 and Ibn Taymiyya. Yasir Qadhi is a well known intellectual and leader in the Muslim community. He has a bachelor degree in chemical engineering; he studied for ten years at the University of Medina obtaining a BA in Hadith and a MA in Theology and he obtained his Ph.D. from Yale in Islamic Studies. He is currently at the Islamic Seminary of America.
We discuss the exegetical history of this verse, the exegesis of it by Ibn Taymiyya and how his exegesis can inform the way we think about Tafsir, Fiqh, and Muslim thought generally.
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Yasir appearing on the show is a surprise
a very nice one
A surprise for us, but not for them apparently. As he stated, they’ve known each other since graduate studies!
But He is most gymnast Sheikh ever ; remember how blander he did with moh #hijab , he through the Quran under bus to defend #Umayyad #Quraish
@@obaidulhaque7687 brother, one should be careful about saying stuff like that, these are serious allegations in front of God. Listen to what Dr. Qadhi said regarding these accusations and judge for yourself. Even if the allegations are true, youtube comments is not the place for it. God will ask for what you say on the day of judgement, remember that.
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The guy doesn't believe in Islam anymore but it's a big income for him
I'm a fan of critical scholarship, but it's always fascinating to see more traditional views in an academic setting.
MashaAllah. I’m glad these questions are being raised. As one still learning, this dialogue is fascinating to me. Thank you, brothers/doctors. May Allah keep blessing you and your families. 🤲🏿
It is nice that you have brought him to the channel. He is one of the Muslim intellectuals in the West I respect so much.
Super excited for this.
This is such an extremely Wonderful Amazing informative and important discussion.
Epic collaboration
Can’t wait to see this!
All the Christian Islamophobes are popping up in the comments section. Such a shame seeing how respectful and engaging Dr Reynolds is with Islamic traditions.
That's the nature of religion, one has to be right and the other has to be wrong. They can't both be right.
@@SzTz100 that is not related to the comment you're replying to. It's not an inevitability, it's a choice
@@kschacherer92 My point is if you think Jesus is the son of God, even though there is no evidence for this, then you will think Christianity is right and other religions are wrong. The same about Islam they think Mohamed existed and the Quran is directly from God, and everyone else must be wrong.
These islamophobes seem to follow Yasir Qadhi wherever he goes. Weirdos
@@SzTz100 doesnt mean you have to have a dirty mouth like christians do about muslims. not a surprise, they insult their own God and say He was so cruel another god needed to be brought into existed to reconcile humanity with Him
I enjoyed this lecture. Thank you.
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Well said Shaykh Yasir
One of the biggest surprised things I have ever seen haha. I love listening to Yasir Qadhi 😁
Thank you for adding the transcript. Very helpful.
Such a captivating explanation. Really enjoyed this presentation.
This verse has a Platonic flavor which states that all souls have been in contact with the World of the Forms.
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Intresting because we know that prophet Muhammad pbuh has nothing to do with the platonic discourse.
@@obaidulhaque7687 give us a summary of that please; Dr. Hany Atchan is a long watch...
@@SAM_KBIwe dont know this since we didn’t see it with our eyes. Arabia was not all desert and isolated place. There are cities with different beliefs… it very long research it ..
Thanks
beautiful
Very interesting the similarity with the Christian tradition that has been called "Reformed Episthemology" (Although, it has been recognized that it is not only of the reformed tradition).
Breaking away from the traditional line of thinking and speaking his mind is GREAT for Ibn Taymiyah but if Javed Ahmed Ghamidi does that in 21st century, he is an outcast. Amazing!! 😊
Not that I agree with everything Ibn Taymiyyah Saïd but remember he was rejected in his time by many and jailed more than once I think
Got a chuckle out of that last story of you talking about Ibn Taymiyyah in an interfaith event!! It was funny. Though, I personally wouldn't have seen any issue with it.
What is the 'Academy' that is being mentioned here? I may have missed it, but is it a separate institution or a school inside Yale?
academy, as opposed to the madrasa.
"Academy" refers to the historical-critical study of islam (or any other religion btw) in opposition to the "Madrasa", the traditional teological study of islam.
Wow what a powerful spiritual verse re the fitra Vs intellect. Phenomenology Vs empiricism ?
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Javed Ahmed Ghamidi considers Fitrah as the first source of revelation for human beings. The revelations given to the Messengers are the details of that first revelation. He has done a five hour program in which he showed how Fitrah plays a fundamental role in understanding the teachings of Islam.
Which mutawatir narrations
Reading the actual Quran in its own language, the Covenant did really happen.
So earth created then souls come earth what happened to clays story?
Guys: take all the Deviations, Bidha and Sectarianism in Islam and analyze them for 2 commandments of Allah (17:36, 3:7) and you will see they disobeyed in one of these.
Note: the topic he is about to delve into is a Mutashabihat and lets see if they violate 3:7.
So there are verses in both holy books BUT from difference gods
Did you talk about the holes?
Also Ta'vil
55:20 God so loved the World that He sent Prophets unto humans. Dropping the word continuous , may be some what serious .
In Yasir Qadhi’s version of John 3:16 he says ‘that god so loved the world that he sent continuous prophets unto us’. Question who is the prophet after Muhammad if they are continuous as you claim @Yasir Qadhi
muhammad (p) is the last prophet (33:40) and Quran final revelation (5:3)
Khatam al Anbiya was the Messiah!
As Tertullian noted.
Mani later claimed to be seal of the prophets, too.
'An eternal justice was manifested. A Holy one of Holies was anointed that is Christ and sealed was vision and prophecy and sins were forgiven. Therefore, since the prophecy was fulfilled through his advent. Vision and prophecy were sealed because he is the Seal of all Prophets. Fulfilling all things which in days bygone they had announced of him.' ~ Tertullian
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Tertullian did not meet any apostle, so his words are only conjecture.
Also if there was no prophet after Jesus that would contradict John 16:7-14 and John 1:21
@dom3073 This is a lack understanding of those verses in their context.
Because you cherrypick regaarding the remaining verses about the Holy Spirit, nor do you understand the tripartite Jesus in Quran.
@@Stardust475
John 1:21 clearly tells you theres a prophet whos not Jesus, nor John the baptist but someone else. In other words theyre expecting another prophet after Jesus and John. Thats why they asked John, are you the Messiah? He said no. Are you Elijah, he said no. Are you the Prophet, he said no. Which meams the Elijah, the Messiah and the Prophet are three different ppl.
Wait a second, Qadi said the extraction happened on Earth from Adam's loins while i was taught it happened before Adam was sent to Earth
Then, according to ib Taymiyya, how do you use the fitra to "prove" God? Wouldn't it be subjective?
@@hidir3532 And how do you prove "proving".
Fitra will tell you if your belief is right or problematic. For example many Christians have problem with the worship of a man or trinity without any exposure to Quran, or looking at the sky when hoping for miracle or divine help. To prove god you need the scripture and intellectual as well on top of fitra.
Guys lets check these 10 pages in Tabari that Qadhi keeps mentioning so see what Sahaba actually said and whether those narrations are authentic and not copied from Israeliyats.
How is Tabari the don of Athari tafseer ....@21:54 (video time) , Tabari is the mist respected Muslim Tafseer, by Asharis , Maturidis , and Atharis even some shia , Ibadi, and Mutazila have no choice but to refer to Tafseer Tabari. @1:02:00 to the end , I admire that he admits how Ubn Taymiyyah went against the salaf and early scholars, and invented new things . I don't say this as criticism just as truth for those who hold one scholar as absolute. May Allah increase us in knowledge.
The only time ibn Taymia became "nimble" was when he disoveyed 3:7 LoL 🤣😆
Allah tells us to use our intellect but ibn Taymia (according to Qadi) says dont.....hum 🤔...listen to God or listen to man... 🤔....nay...im gonna use my brain.
Great content brother Gabriel even though it is clear that Yasir is still very careful not to get backlash from Muslims. Romans 1:20 actually provided the answer long before Ibn Taymiyah and ibn sina to correct them both
“For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.”
Romans 1:20 ESV
@@al.masihi you mean Paul said this right?
@@al.masihi this does not constitute evidence for any muslim. While muslims respect Christians, they do not take their books as evidence since they do not know what has been preserved and what hasn't been.
@@al.masihi you worship 3 gods
Aha! So the 40 narrations are not reliable LoL 🤣 i was right! Most likely the Sahaba didnt say these things beacuse they know not to disobey 3:7 like all these other "scholars" including Qadi did. Thats why im warning everyone against scholarly opinions without evidences
Yasir "holes in the narrative" Qadhi
Challenge: find those "holes" for us, you're putting too many strawmen.
What was the context of the dialogue between him and Hijab?
When Yasir comes to confession.
Question 1: why do you guys like to put Ibn Taymia or any scholar on top of our head as a source? We dont follow any scholars we follow Evidence.
If Muslims just followed these 2 verses they would be in a better place:
1) 17:36....dont follow amything without Evidence.
2) 3:7....dont delve into Mutashabihat.
All your scholars and saints can go to hell if they deviate from any Quranic advise.
Guys: we need to study Tafseer according to how the Approved among the first 3 generations interpreted them. Anyone after that could be questioned.
This entire presentation is disobeying 3:7.....now do you guys understand why Qadi is believed by some to be a deviant on certain issues?
I would loved for hom to show only the Hadeeth pertaining to this verse and have a Muhadith analyze it rather than giving a hodgepodge of scholarly opinions.
Dear Prof Reynolds, you should interview Mufti Abu Layth next!
Neither a scholar nor a respected figure.
Yasir "Holes in the Narrative" Qadhi. 😁
he made a full video responding to this but somehow dishonest ppl doesnt like to be intellectually just
YQ will absolutely never, ever live this down!
@@unknownpng650"He went into damage control after he exposed the standard Islamic narrative"
can you give me specifically what damage controll he expressed in his 1 hour video? or u didnt watch that you are just assuming? @@thenun1846
@@unknownpng650 The whole video was an attempt to deflect and distract from the confession that the dawah script about the perfectly preserved Quran was total hogwash. He exposed the lies the dawagandist have spewed for years.
Is there any peoof from Quran or Sunnah that the Soul alone can speak? I think there is evidence to the contrary.
YQ you are disobeying Allah's command in 3:7. Please stop.
Holes in the Narrative
What was the context between Qadhi and Hijab's dialogue?
Do not throw strawmen.
ibn taymiyyah - inventing? hmm bidah king
Is that the same shirt he wore on the "holes in the narrative" video with Muhammad Hijab?
Your dissertations about ibn Taymia can all be put in the trash as far muslims are concerned
Qadhi has more faith than epistemic commitment thereby diminishing his credibility. He’s an ultracrepedarian
with all due respect, this episode does not have content worth considering, and it is the weakest episode I watched on the channel, because the guest is a traditional muslim in terms of belief, and is also known for his clear wahhabi tendencies towards ibn taymiyyah. I do not think that such guests offer anything new because you find their ideas around you in the media or the mosque, so there is nothing new
what an intellectual weak comment, emotional appeal.
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All traditionalists are not worth listening to. Their arguments are basically circular, with a lot of rhetorical nonsense
From the Greeks until now, nonsense remains nonsense, and their research also remains nonsense because it's circular, nothing new
This is a horrible take and quite the opposite approach to take in an academic setting. You hear all views and research all angles. Otherwise your just in your own bubble
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Bubble are for those who produce the same nonsense in different ways like it's gonna make a difference, using academic tools means there's no traditional view can survive unless you are circular
@@dialectic2869 you oppose traditionnel view and academic view , their is no natural opposition between the two and thank god for that
Inviting a doxxer to the show? Bad move. Plenty of Muslim traditionalisslts to have interesting conversations with. But this one is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Why?
Even jokingly Yasir making fun of John 3:16 to pervert the scriptures esp making fun of the sacrifice of God’s Son shows clearly that yasir is the son of $haytan. He should be corrected and rebuked
god killed himself.. yea that makes a lot of sense
@@dom3073 you are another son of evil who pervert how we believe.
@@al.masihi There is no proof any of this religious stuff exists.
Who wrote John? Oh I know, you have no clue 😂 Believing in stuff written by people decades or centuries after Jesus and disciples, each 'gospel' contradicting each other and which by your own scholars include completely fabricated passages, and a bunch of schmuck made up by some dude who claimed to have revelation of Jesus (each instance of his claim contradicting in details) -- all resulted in the religion of 'love' that caused the most violence on the planet... History of Xtianity is the proof that it's mostly made up by Shaythaan and his accomplices among human beings.
Bowing down to a half naked Roman criminal is paganism
This is such an extremely Wonderful Amazing informative and important discussion.
This is such an extremely Wonderful Amazing informative and important discussion.