As a Marine Corps vet and motorcyclist, I would have done an about face got on my ride and left as well. I just know to never patronize that establishment with or without my colors again.
That's just messed up. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Veterans are not " WINEY ". Your GROWN ASS MEN/&WOMEN who Protected our Country which makes you HEROES. ❤
It was posted that MC colors are not allowed...CVMA is not an MC. It's an association there's a difference, not a HUGE difference but there is a difference. They should have been allowed in and not bothered. American Legions across the US have banned any club colors other than their own. I'm in Marines MC and we have had similar problems.
Of course I respect their service.. But you have to apply the no colors or cut equally. Because some asshats might get offended you allowed one group in yet kept their colors out. It must applied across the board.
Civilians don’t know the difference between mc’s or associations and owners and managers consider them all the same. Restaurants and such cater to the public and depend on them for the profits. It’s an image thing and it’s their call. I’ve been asked to remove my vest which I did. It was no big deal to me and I’m still a member of my association.
These men put thier lives so we can have Freedoms ..yet this happens bikers and vets support your local establishments that have respect and pride for your sacrifice and service 👍
I think it more about restaurants protocol and rules than respect. It’s not the patch-it’s the man, and patches (cuts) don’t make the man or how fancy his motorcycle is.
Absolutely! Call attention to yourself, you’re gonna get attention.. A policy is a policy! Hells angels used to do toys for tots! Get over yourselves fellas and pick and choose your battles!
I think our vet should organize a demonstration in DC to support a marines vet that is indicted for killing a criminal. This criminal was intended to kill and harm to Americans. The marine trained to do harm to any domestic terrorist or criminals. The marine did the right thing, and he deserved your support Thank you for your service to our country 🙏 ❤️
I am late to this video by 6 years. It is disgusting to not support the Vets. This restaurant was in Texas, a state you would least expect to see this happen. I am not familiar with the restaurant and so I googled it. The restaurant is permently closed now!
As a CVMA member, I would want to wear my vest, but I would not if other clubs couldn't wear vests because they would feel we are disrespecting their clubs.
You wouldn't be disrespecting them. The restaurant would be the ones doing that, if it's even disrespect, at all, since it might be for other reasons, for them.
I feel the restaurant owner/manager can make that call. It’s their place of business and they can determine dress codes and behavior. If they won’t allow 1%er’s due to the rep that follows them then they have to make it across the board. There are other restaurants that support the Vets and it’s association. It shouldn’t be made a big deal.
Steven Jones You are correct they are NOT a MC they are a “Motorcycle group” Ya I don’t get it either Why do everything under the sun to look like a MC if you’re not? ✊✊✊💦💧💧💧
I can understand to an extent the fear of incidents repeating themselves. But, to me, I find it a bit silly. I would have no issue with any MC, AC, WC, SC or any other organization eating at my place with their vests on. Especially a veterans organization. I find if bikers in general frequent your place and they like you and the place, they will respect and protect it. I am not part of any group or MC, I am a new rider and have been a business owner in the past. All I know is that in the biker culture at large, you show them respect, that is what you get back. I am glad the veterans posted this. I wouldn't wanna frequent that place either after seeing them treated like that.
The same treatment I got when I came back from Vietnam in 1969. I am now President and founder of One Blood LE MC and we were going to have our national meet in that area, but I posted this in all 63 Chapters we will not be going there. All 712 members agreed this place is off limits.
Private property, not much anyone can do, business loses good customers, business gains more anti military douchebag customers, veteran bikers give their business to a different business.
What they need to do is boycott it to all vets serving in the army as we speak or retired this helps in two reasons# 1 because of issues like this do all vets support each other this would tell all . even if they are not bikers or like bikers we are vets first .#2 the restaurant probably in the neighborhood of 70 % gets most of thier money from military men and women serving or retired military if they don't get money guess what ? They loose ,not the bike club and I would like to mention they did an outstanding job on how they took care of the matter without incident ,good job guys now it's time to hurt them were it counts the Most ,in thier pockets 🇨🇱🤠🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🗽🗽
They don't need his authorization. There's nothing indecent on them, so he shouldn't said anything to them. Screw that policy, and their vests are uniforms.
To some people, colors are colors, MC or MA. I wear a vest with no back patch, I have my American Flag, POW/MIA patch and a few pins. I've never been turned away (yet). If a patch on a piece of cow hide represents you as a person........that's great, just be ready to deal with John Q. Public.
they don't like it when someone discriminates against them I am a combat vet I applied but I have a Yamaha they only accept Harley-Davidsons I can't afford a Harley if you want me to ride a Harley why don't you buy one for me I can give you my DD-214 tho, discrimination is discrimination no matter how its shelled out
@@yusefalmutawakil3325 That is not true! I am a member and I ride a Kawasaki. Many guys in our chapter don't ride harleys and a few ride sport bikes. Where are you joining out of?
I don't want to be a stick in the mud, so I'll just say that I understand both sides. A "No colors" policy just makes sense for some locations. I would patronize the establishment and leave my vest locked up in my bike.
Their own policy clearly states “MC” colors (motorcycle club)…ask any CVMA member we are not an MC we are an association in no way shape or form an MC.
The restaurant was wrong in doing this. That’s too bad that they would treat veterans that way. Do veterans have to take off their hats too in this place.
CVMA is not a Biker group or an MC. It is a huge difference, than an MC. We have a huge respect and show respect to all MC's. But we are a Non profit organization of Combat veterans and Non Combat Veterans that support our mission in helping Veterans, Our Motto is "Vets Helping Vets. Like any Mc out there if you don't want us to wear our vests than I would not argue as they didn't and would just leave. This is America and this is the age of social media. Posting things is what we do and to post and inform other Veterans or CVMA members not to utilize that business what's the problem? They didn't ask for special treatment. They left. But I am sure if they were part of the great and almighty LBGTQZXDUJNF group there would be outrage and legal battles.
I wouldnt Eat at Place called Garage,,Garbage,,The No sense owners have that Right not to Serve ,,Given That Right, by the Veterans they Refused Service,Salute to the Combat Vets...
The restaurant has rules and signs posted why do biker groups or even veteran groups think they are above or beyond societies rules if its posted obey it if not you get no service I don't get how hard that is to understand. You are wearing colors and the way you have your patches aligned on your jacket give the impression you are an MC so you will be treated as such lol grow up guys really.
Okay so the by-laws say if posted "NO COLORS" then it is just that. So what is the issue, great to have positive exposure but the policy is the policy. Just go somewhere else.
Well I will never ever step foot in there restaurant disrespect veterans like that and I guarantee there's a lot of my brothers and sisters out there they will not step foot in there
If restaurant or bar has "No Colors Rule" posted, then end of conversation. No disrespect intended. If I let patch of Christian, Veteran then why not all. Sign was posted. Maybe if your leaving a funeral or similar function you should reach out ahead of pulling 10 or more bikes into a situation. Former Marine myself, I surely respect our veterans. I have to respect the freedom and rules of the restaurant operation.
the NO COLORS policy is put in place because of the violence caused by biker groups that look for trouble........ they can't seem to behave themselves, too busy trying to prove what bad asses they are, the good groups like these guys have to suffer because of it.
This is not a club but a chapter 501c charity organisation. But guilty by association for wearing a uniformed patch and colors and loving motorcycles ... Its an ignorant way of thinking we have in America. These same men and women once wore a uniform that most restaurants respected and held in high esteem . all they did as trade the uniform for a patch and not even an MC patch and thats intentional by the organisation ...
Veterans please don't expect people to bend over backwards for you because you are a veteran. I really don't think this needed to be posted all over social media. IMO
At what point did anyone say anything of the sort? They were told not to wear their cuts if they stayed. They left. No drama, no theatrics. Never met a vet that expected special treatment, most of us have learned to not even talk about it to avoid stupid questions. Only person I've ever dealt with that played his "Vet Card" was stolen valor.
@@deangullberry5148 they posted it all over social media and did an interview with the local news. That right there is going to bring bad business to this restaurant. If they really didn't care they would have left and none of this would have made it to the news.
Of course I respect their service and know they're arent a 1% club.. But many places have a no colors rules.. and it HAS to be applied to everyone. Otherwise another club might think they were disrespected by them not being allowed while you allowed another to eat there. The rule must be applied equally. If you say no colors or cuts.. that applies across the board. It has to
100% agree I also wonhundredpercent support the media calling out businesses that do stuff like this even if it’s against their rules or whatever. Doesn’t really matter it’s wrong regardless so I’m glad they got called out
No. That's not right, because these guys aren't in a Club. Do you think they would turn people in the Christian Motorcycle Association away, unless they took their vests off? The reasoning behind not wanting people to wear their colors is because of club rivalry. There isn't a rivalry, between associations and clubs. Should they not let teams to come in, wearing jerseys? A Jersey is the same type of thing as a biker club vest, and teams have rivalries. Fans fight over teams, so it should be applied to them, too, right? Allowing them to represent, but not the bikers to is disrespectful to the bikers.
@@RayfordRaySiegel incorrect. Many places don't let you wear jersesies or even hats. Several places have a zero colors rule.. and it's enforced across the board.
I tell you what, if that were to happen to me I wouldn't have left so quietly. I would have made sure that everyone in that restaurant knew what happened and took most of them with me when I left. Harker Heights is right off of Fort Hood and should know better.
@@asolo8229 Spoken like a true bleeding heart liberal. We are special, whether you like it or not. I was shot at, blown up, and killed for my country. What have you done lately besides sit in your mom's basement?
Stop your whining. There's a lot of restaurants that have a no colors rule. It's because they've had clubs in there before that have caused problems. So to eliminate the issue nobody is allowed to wear colors. It wasn't just because it was you
They clearly are asking for special treatment. Im not going to make any friends saying this but, they chose to dress a certain way that, to the public at large, very closley resembles outlaw biker gear. They can't then claim anyone unrelated to the biker scene should know the differance. The staff doesn't know the differance nor are they obliged to learn the differance. The rules are the rules. If anybody should be aquanted with following the rules it should be these guys.
Alley Oop really is that your true throught , let me ask u something, did u serve, because, I did brother, in a war, nobody wanted, Vietnam, can u remember that one, and was proud doing it, I ask for no special treatment, but, it would be appreciated, if people like you, throught before they spoke. Have a good one. USN.
Alley Oop ya, u let your your Ass do the the talking, why don't think before you speak, let me ask u, did u serve, I HONESTLY think, I know the answer to that one. Good day.
Donald Mettler Listen, I'm not here to argue with you. I let my opinion be known about that situation, it's as simple as that. You asked me several questions I chose to answer one of them. As for your obsession with my service history, it's none of your fucking dusinesd when or where or even if I served so piss off old man.
Alley Oop and to think we, wearing the leather jacket, ridding our Harley, Served our country, so Ass holes like u can speak your freedom, THINK ABOUT THAT MAN.
If the dress code states that ANY vests are not allowed, then you ARE looking for special treatment. Take your business elsewhere then. I am a combat veteran by the way, and cannot stand this type of crap.
Andre Barlow Andre Barlow you cant possibly be responding to me, because I stated that I am a combat veteran myself. I’ve been doing this Army thing for 18 years and have plenty of deployments, so don’t assume I haven’t rowed the boat. Spare me the you’re putting your life on the line for my freedom bullshit. That doesn’t work with another veteran. We’re in a volunteer military. No one made you join, so if a restaurant says “no vests”, no matter who it is, then that applies to everyone. You seem like that guy who has a fit because a store doesn’t give you a 10% discount for your service. Give me a break 🙄
They have rules posted just like CVMA does....if you're not a combat veteran you can't join. How would they feel if some non combat vets started to protest against them.....oh yeah and I'm a veteran.
As a Marine Corps vet and motorcyclist, I would have done an about face got on my ride and left as well. I just know to never patronize that establishment with or without my colors again.
Wow! Glad this is publicized. I will never patronize The Garage and encourage other paying customers to refrain as well.
I'd never spend a dime there. EVER A 75 year old disabled Army Vet.
That's just messed up. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Veterans are not " WINEY ". Your GROWN ASS MEN/&WOMEN who Protected our Country which makes you HEROES. ❤
It was posted that MC colors are not allowed...CVMA is not an MC. It's an association there's a difference, not a HUGE difference but there is a difference. They should have been allowed in and not bothered. American Legions across the US have banned any club colors other than their own. I'm in Marines MC and we have had similar problems.
Of course I respect their service.. But you have to apply the no colors or cut equally. Because some asshats might get offended you allowed one group in yet kept their colors out. It must applied across the board.
It’s a distinction without difference. Any club could claim the same.
There’s a huge difference from a MC and this group.
Civilians don’t know the difference between mc’s or associations and owners and managers consider them all the same. Restaurants and such cater to the public and depend on them for the profits. It’s an image thing and it’s their call. I’ve been asked to remove my vest which I did. It was no big deal to me and I’m still a member of my association.
These men put thier lives so we can have Freedoms ..yet this happens bikers and vets support your local establishments that have respect and pride for your sacrifice and service 👍
This is ridiculous! They should be respected period
I think it more about restaurants protocol and rules than respect. It’s not the patch-it’s the man, and patches (cuts) don’t make the man or how fancy his motorcycle is.
I’m a combat veteran. retired after 24 years and I’ve been in plenty of places with signs prohibiting colors.
Absolutely!
Call attention to yourself, you’re gonna get attention..
A policy is a policy!
Hells angels used to do toys for tots!
Get over yourselves fellas and pick and choose your battles!
@@SemperGumbi0369 Yup, if the restruant does it for them, then they have to do it for all....
I think our vet should organize a demonstration in DC to support a marines vet that is indicted for killing a criminal.
This criminal was intended to kill and harm to Americans. The marine trained to do harm to any domestic terrorist or criminals. The marine did the right thing, and he deserved your support
Thank you for your service to our country 🙏 ❤️
Boycott the restaurant, and any deliveries to the restaurant refused.
I am late to this video by 6 years. It is disgusting to not support the Vets. This restaurant was in Texas, a state you would least expect to see this happen. I am not familiar with the restaurant and so I googled it. The restaurant is permently closed now!
As a CVMA member, I would want to wear my vest, but I would not if other clubs couldn't wear vests because they would feel we are disrespecting their clubs.
You wouldn't be disrespecting them. The restaurant would be the ones doing that, if it's even disrespect, at all, since it might be for other reasons, for them.
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This
Your not an MC for one, don’t forget that.
I feel the restaurant owner/manager can make that call. It’s their place of business and they can determine dress codes and behavior. If they won’t allow 1%er’s due to the rep that follows them then they have to make it across the board. There are other restaurants that support the Vets and it’s association. It shouldn’t be made a big deal.
Just go elsewhere. The restaurant doesn't know the difference between 1% Clubs and 99% Clubs.
I don't think they're even a 99% club. They're just not a 1% club lol.
Steven Jones You are correct they are NOT a MC they are a “Motorcycle group” Ya I don’t get it either Why do everything under the sun to look like a MC if you’re not?
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Steven Jones it’s funny the cvma is less than 1% if that makes sense less than 1% of Americans have been in combat.
@@firewhenready1970 and less than 1% of CVMA has actually seen any combat..
@@runswithscissors888 I just found that out recently what a sham
I can understand to an extent the fear of incidents repeating themselves. But, to me, I find it a bit silly. I would have no issue with any MC, AC, WC, SC or any other organization eating at my place with their vests on. Especially a veterans organization. I find if bikers in general frequent your place and they like you and the place, they will respect and protect it. I am not part of any group or MC, I am a new rider and have been a business owner in the past. All I know is that in the biker culture at large, you show them respect, that is what you get back. I am glad the veterans posted this. I wouldn't wanna frequent that place either after seeing them treated like that.
I think a 100 HELLS ANGELS should show up. See what they say then 😂😂😂😂
The same treatment I got when I came back from Vietnam in 1969. I am now President and founder of One Blood LE MC and we were going to have our national meet in that area, but I posted this in all 63 Chapters we will not be going there. All 712 members agreed this place is off limits.
Thank you for your service.
Private property, not much anyone can do, business loses good customers, business gains more anti military douchebag customers, veteran bikers give their business to a different business.
Well said, Veterans go elsewhere Rich can keep it...
I see that a restaurant owner would mistake patches as an MC....but CVA is not an MC club.
If they’re referring to the Waco fiasco.. then they shouldn’t allow police officers wearing their uniform in as well
MA, motorcycle association is NOT a MC motorcycle club.
bullshit that restaurant doing that to our vet,s
What they need to do is boycott it to all vets serving in the army as we speak or retired this helps in two reasons# 1 because of issues like this do all vets support each other this would tell all . even if they are not bikers or like bikers we are vets first .#2 the restaurant probably in the neighborhood of 70 % gets most of thier money from military men and women serving or retired military if they don't get money guess what ? They loose ,not the bike club and I would like to mention they did an outstanding job on how they took care of the matter without incident ,good job guys now it's time to hurt them were it counts the
Most ,in thier pockets 🇨🇱🤠🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🗽🗽
As long as its the same for everyone there shouldn't be a problem.
They’re not an MC so what’s the issue
They are vest clearly State combat vets MC
@@yusefalmutawakil3325 No, it clearly states ASSOCIATION!
yusef almutawakil it says Combat Vets Motorcycle Association not Club. That’s why they don’t have rockers on the vest.
Yeah, whats the issue with them removing their vests in order to eat?
Their is a difference between an MC and an Association.. they are an Association.
That's discrimination
The guys are not wearing a MC patch.
"do not wear their mc colors in the restaurant" then the policy doesnt apply to them they arent an MC and they weren't wearing "colors"
Shame ...
They don't need his authorization. There's nothing indecent on them, so he shouldn't said anything to them. Screw that policy, and their vests are uniforms.
All veterans never eat there ever
To some people, colors are colors, MC or MA. I wear a vest with no back patch, I have my American Flag, POW/MIA patch and a few pins. I've never been turned away (yet). If a patch on a piece of cow hide represents you as a person........that's great, just be ready to deal with John Q. Public.
God bless the CVMA.
they don't like it when someone discriminates against them I am a combat vet I applied but I have a Yamaha they only accept Harley-Davidsons I can't afford a Harley if you want me to ride a Harley why don't you buy one for me I can give you my DD-214 tho, discrimination is discrimination no matter how its shelled out
@@yusefalmutawakil3325 That is not true! I am a member and I ride a Kawasaki. Many guys in our chapter don't ride harleys and a few ride sport bikes. Where are you joining out of?
He is not going to answer because he made that sh*t up.
@@yusefalmutawakil3325 That isn’t true!!!!! If you are a Combat Vet and ride a motorcycle larger then a 500cc you can join.
I don't want to be a stick in the mud, so I'll just say that I understand both sides. A "No colors" policy just makes sense for some locations. I would patronize the establishment and leave my vest locked up in my bike.
Their own policy clearly states “MC” colors (motorcycle club)…ask any CVMA member we are not an MC we are an association in no way shape or form an MC.
Distinction without difference.
Also when asked to remove their vests, the CVMA usually complies in order to avoid any conflict because they are not an MC.
@@teddyjackson1902 wrong we don’t prospect people. We don’t tell people when and how to ride.
Pride
The restaurant was wrong in doing this. That’s too bad that they would treat veterans that way. Do veterans have to take off their hats too in this place.
CVMA is not a Biker group or an MC. It is a huge difference, than an MC. We have a huge respect and show respect to all MC's. But we are a Non profit organization of Combat veterans and Non Combat Veterans that support our mission in helping Veterans, Our Motto is "Vets Helping Vets. Like any Mc out there if you don't want us to wear our vests than I would not argue as they didn't and would just leave. This is America and this is the age of social media. Posting things is what we do and to post and inform other Veterans or CVMA members not to utilize that business what's the problem? They didn't ask for special treatment. They left. But I am sure if they were part of the great and almighty LBGTQZXDUJNF group there would be outrage and legal battles.
You could've commented without being a bigot
"Vets Helping Vets," until they don't, and kick you out and threaten to call the cops on you haha.
Lol . They don’t have a ( mc ) patch on there vest .
Its not a mc its a association
Yeah... let someone tell me to take my Cut off!
They should eat anywhere and maybe even for nothing
I see were the gangster is at..
I wouldnt Eat at Place called Garage,,Garbage,,The No sense owners have that Right not to Serve ,,Given That Right, by the Veterans they Refused Service,Salute to the Combat Vets...
The restaurant has rules and signs posted why do biker groups or even veteran groups think they are above or beyond societies rules if its posted obey it if not you get no service I don't get how hard that is to understand. You are wearing colors and the way you have your patches aligned on your jacket give the impression you are an MC so you will be treated as such lol grow up guys really.
Sorry so late... screw that restaurant.
Okay so the by-laws say if posted "NO COLORS" then it is just that. So what is the issue, great to have positive exposure but the policy is the policy. Just go somewhere else.
Dude just take your money elsewhere
They did. Lol
Well I will never ever step foot in there restaurant disrespect veterans like that and I guarantee there's a lot of my brothers and sisters out there they will not step foot in there
The veterans could have taken their vests off in order to eat.
Bruh I'm done with this shit I'm angry now
Most places have dress codes
Why not simply remove the cuts and place them over the back of their chairs, or is the restaurant policy no cuts allowed on the premises ?
It's no cuts allowed inside. And asking anyone in a club or the cvma to remove their cut is like asking a veteran to deny who they are.
If restaurant or bar has "No Colors Rule" posted, then end of conversation. No disrespect intended. If I let patch of Christian, Veteran then why not all. Sign was posted. Maybe if your leaving a funeral or similar function you should reach out ahead of pulling 10 or more bikes into a situation. Former Marine myself, I surely respect our veterans. I have to respect the freedom and rules of the restaurant operation.
the NO COLORS policy is put in place because of the violence caused by biker groups that look for trouble........ they can't seem to behave themselves, too busy trying to prove what bad asses they are, the good groups like these guys have to suffer because of it.
Word of mouth travels fast. Vets help vets not go to that place to eat.
I don't think this is a negative request of the restaurant. Many establishments in Daytona have this so idiot clubs don't get into a pissing contest.
This is not a club but a chapter 501c charity organisation. But guilty by association for wearing a uniformed patch and colors and loving motorcycles ... Its an ignorant way of thinking we have in America. These same men and women once wore a uniform that most restaurants respected and held in high esteem . all they did as trade the uniform for a patch and not even an MC patch and thats intentional by the organisation ...
Veterans please don't expect people to bend over backwards for you because you are a veteran. I really don't think this needed to be posted all over social media. IMO
At what point did anyone say anything of the sort?
They were told not to wear their cuts if they stayed. They left. No drama, no theatrics.
Never met a vet that expected special treatment, most of us have learned to not even talk about it to avoid stupid questions.
Only person I've ever dealt with that played his "Vet Card" was stolen valor.
@@deangullberry5148 they posted it all over social media and did an interview with the local news. That right there is going to bring bad business to this restaurant. If they really didn't care they would have left and none of this would have made it to the news.
Who in the hell said Veterans are expecting people to bend over backwards?! Stop with the bullshit.
Of course I respect their service and know they're arent a 1% club.. But many places have a no colors rules.. and it HAS to be applied to everyone. Otherwise another club might think they were disrespected by them not being allowed while you allowed another to eat there. The rule must be applied equally. If you say no colors or cuts.. that applies across the board. It has to
100% agree I also wonhundredpercent support the media calling out businesses that do stuff like this even if it’s against their rules or whatever. Doesn’t really matter it’s wrong regardless so I’m glad they got called out
No. That's not right, because these guys aren't in a Club. Do you think they would turn people in the Christian Motorcycle Association away, unless they took their vests off? The reasoning behind not wanting people to wear their colors is because of club rivalry. There isn't a rivalry, between associations and clubs. Should they not let teams to come in, wearing jerseys? A Jersey is the same type of thing as a biker club vest, and teams have rivalries. Fans fight over teams, so it should be applied to them, too, right? Allowing them to represent, but not the bikers to is disrespectful to the bikers.
@@RayfordRaySiegel incorrect. Many places don't let you wear jersesies or even hats. Several places have a zero colors rule.. and it's enforced across the board.
I tell you what, if that were to happen to me I wouldn't have left so quietly. I would have made sure that everyone in that restaurant knew what happened and took most of them with me when I left. Harker Heights is right off of Fort Hood and should know better.
I agree they should know better and so should Richard Rawlings
@@asolo8229 Spoken like a true piece of shit. Nobody needs to take off their attire when they go into a restaurant. The boycott should stand forever.
@@asolo8229 Tough guy for a keyboard warrior.
@@asolo8229 Spoken like a true bleeding heart liberal. We are special, whether you like it or not. I was shot at, blown up, and killed for my country. What have you done lately besides sit in your mom's basement?
@@TheJimtanker oh for pete's sake...everyone should be kissing your behind too I guess. Yes, you're "special"..lol
Stop your whining. There's a lot of restaurants that have a no colors rule. It's because they've had clubs in there before that have caused problems. So to eliminate the issue nobody is allowed to wear colors. It wasn't just because it was you
washington state, some rest. can't wear colors.
Whiney veterans wanting special treatment
Whatever dude. You wanted to be feared. That's what you got. Deal with it
Get out of here, with that nonsense. He never stated that he wanted to be feared. If the business owner is paranoid of them, that's his problem.
They clearly are asking for special treatment. Im not going to make any friends saying this but, they chose to dress a certain way that, to the public at large, very closley resembles outlaw biker gear. They can't then claim anyone unrelated to the biker scene should know the differance. The staff doesn't know the differance nor are they obliged to learn the differance. The rules are the rules. If anybody should be aquanted with following the rules it should be these guys.
Alley Oop really is that your true throught , let me ask u something, did u serve, because, I did brother, in a war, nobody wanted, Vietnam, can u remember that one, and was proud doing it, I ask for no special treatment, but, it would be appreciated, if people like you, throught before they spoke. Have a good one. USN.
Donald Mettler
I said exactly what I meant friend.
Alley Oop ya, u let your your Ass do the the talking, why don't think before you speak, let me ask u, did u serve, I HONESTLY think, I know the answer to that one. Good day.
Donald Mettler
Listen, I'm not here to argue with you. I let my opinion be known about that situation, it's as simple as that. You asked me several questions I chose to answer one of them. As for your obsession with my service history, it's none of your fucking dusinesd when or where or even if I served so piss off old man.
Alley Oop and to think we, wearing the leather jacket, ridding our Harley, Served our country, so Ass holes like u can speak your freedom, THINK ABOUT THAT MAN.
If the dress code states that ANY vests are not allowed, then you ARE looking for special treatment. Take your business elsewhere then. I am a combat veteran by the way, and cannot stand this type of crap.
Andre Barlow Andre Barlow you cant possibly be responding to me, because I stated that I am a combat veteran myself. I’ve been doing this Army thing for 18 years and have plenty of deployments, so don’t assume I haven’t rowed the boat. Spare me the you’re putting your life on the line for my freedom bullshit. That doesn’t work with another veteran.
We’re in a volunteer military. No one made you join, so if a restaurant says “no vests”, no matter who it is, then that applies to everyone. You seem like that guy who has a fit because a store doesn’t give you a 10% discount for your service. Give me a break 🙄
Brett Sims if it wasn’t brought up by the CVMA then I can respect that. Ride safe and I’ll be supporting you guys on a poker run here in my area soon!
They have rules posted just like CVMA does....if you're not a combat veteran you can't join. How would they feel if some non combat vets started to protest against them.....oh yeah and I'm a veteran.
Non-combat vets can join the CVMA as a Support Member.
Why in the he'll would I wanna join a non combat club
That's why we have support membership for fellow Vet's that have not served in combat, there's your answer brother, take care
CVMA is a very misleading organization, more than half of them have never seen combat, this blows my mind haha.