Tips on how I record the trombone
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2015
- People ask how I get my recorded sound on the alto trombone. In this video, I demonstrate my equipment choices, mic techniques and the sound processing I use for my recent studio projects.
although I'm a bass trombonist this is very helpful and man, how amazing you sound:-)) Thanks and greetings from Ben van Dijk bass trombone
+Ben van Dijk I love listening to you play!
You're a master, Brazil trombonists love you work. Thanks god for you existence!!
What a compliment from the legend himself! I’m a bass trombonist as well and aspire to be like you Ben!
Thank You! I’ve been looking all over UA-cam for an explanation on how to compress, equalize and add reverb to my trumpet recordings.
I've been looking for a video like this for a long time. Very helpful information. Thanks for the upload!
Sounding great! Really cool tips in the signal chain here. Great dynamic playing and feel!
fantastic thanks... during these tough times I'm experimenting with microphone location and this helped so much !
Many thanks!
That was great! I needed this video, your advice really helped! Thank you.:)
Great Sound! Very smooth...
Very cool vid! Lots lots of gold nuggets here thanks for sharing!
Great information! Thanks for a very informative video. I love the attack you are getting on the notes, very clear and precise!
Very informative. Thanks!
Super informative - thank you!
great sound!
Great playing and info
bro your tone is gold.
Excellent!! I also have the m149 with a focusrite isa one which works very well... good sound and I like the detail...!!
Dude this is so helpful! Thanks so much!!!
excellent content! thank you
nice unique style man love it
Can I just say that 4:25 sounds bangin' and that's why I subscribed! Love it, groovy!
I wish I’d discovered this video in 2015! Thanks, such a helpful tutorial. Best. T
Great video, great tips. Gear is WAY out of my price range. :-)
Very nice sound
Nicely done, Michael! I tend not to mic the brass very closely - usually about 3-4 feet. That gives a more "natural" sound that people are used to hearing in real life. It does lack the subtleties of the very close pickup you demonstrate in this video. Nice playing too!!
I think for most commercial recording setups, your distance is appropriate. My mic proximity is specific to the unique sound I'm going for. To play that close requires a certain control and stylistic finesse that's unnecessarily burdensome for most studio recording.
helpful!!
Extremely expensive to me but the price is well worth it! The sound is heavenly!
What USB mic would you recommend for a classical tenor trombone recording? I am just looking for an adequate mic for audition recordings.
This video was awesome. I wonder how many of the things you spoke about are similar for the trumpet.
I think most of it, although modified a bit. For example, mic proximity for trumpet may be different depending on how loud you play. And how you sculpt the sound will be different as it would be every player and situation but the principles of signal flow and other things remain the same. Good luck!
i really want to transcribe that melody you made or would you post it that would be great!
I really want an alto trombone! Although I looked at this video because I play tenor trombone
You can find a starter alto for not a lot of money. Take a look at the video I did on the Moz trombone. Someone wrote that it is no longer called Moz, but whatever that has turned into is still a cheap starter alto. And then be sure to check out my book, Alto Trombone Savvy!! musicsavvy.com/alto-trombone-savvy/
Hi Mike. I like your videos. Thanks for doing them. A question if you dont mind. When I record a trombone quintet, the lower parts always sound muddy. The 4 muddy lower parts seem to feed on each other. The top part sounds clean. I am using a TLM107 with a Focusrite solo interface and GarageBand. I have tried numerous EQ settings on the lower brass tracks but they end up sounding tinny or processed. Do you think the Neumann m149 would be any different? Any other recommendations to consider.
Beautiful sound, man. I will subscribe. How do you get the music and the video to come together for the video presentation? That would be great info for a beginner.
The process of getting the music and video to come together is pretty straight forward. I shot the video of me playing while I recorded the audio through my mic to the Apollo preamp going into Logic. I'm recording live on video with the recording going through Logic. I'm doing exactly what I would do if I were just recording music without audio.
Once I finish shooting the video, I mix the audio (the music) in Logic with compression, reverb, EQ, etc. and create a finished audio mix. I bring that mix into my video editing software - in my case, Adobe After Effects, lay the music track in sync with the video of me playing.
Notice that I was talking through the camera mic. These days, I use a lavalier mic wired into the camera, and I mix that into the audio in Logic as well using compression and other tools to bring out my voice. I kind of cringe when I hear my talking in this video. If you want to hear my music and my mixes, go to the "Original Music" at www.altobone.com.
I hope that helps...
What did you play as the intro, it sounds familiar. Great sound!
Tyler Bonilla afternoon in Paris
Did you go through ribbon and dynamic mics before you chose the neumann? If yes, it would be interesting to know more reasons why the neumann become the one you use and why the others did not work for you.
Would you choose this the mic if you would record a tenor?
Do you think a good condencer will work better than a good ribbon or dynamic mic (in your opinion of course) ?
dynamic is horrible on brass
@@whatskraken3886 RE-20 works great with trombone IMO and also many others seem to use it especially live.
What is the make and model number of the alto trombone that you use?
Ok so the dance beat at 3:30 surprised me!
Thanks. I think you meant 5:30, but regardless, most people don't put trombone and dance beat together in the same sentence, at least not since Glenn Miller!
Wow, dude you've got it nailed! What DAW do you use? Your recording sounds great!
See 2:40 😀😀😀
he said logic lol dumbass
Just one question ...compression of the trombone in the mix - how does that affect the mastering process? Should you take it out and balance the mix without it and save compression for the mastering process? Thanks.
Good question Anthony. I like compression on the trombone instrument track because it accommodates the sound I am after. I've never liked the hard blatty attack of trombone. The compression calms down the hard attack and also adds a bit of warmth, at least from the compressor I am using witch is a Fairchild 660. Listen to the verse of the song I just uploaded on UA-cam called Sweet Jungle Lullaby. Not only did I use Fairchild compression but I played across the mic rather than pointing into it. I wanted an even smoother attack - more like a singer. Imagine turning 90 degrees with the edge of the bell an inch from the mic center blowing across the front of it.
We need custom trombone recording headphones lol. I have the same headphones you have and have yet to find a comfortable way to wear them without them getting in the way of my horn. Maybe ill buy another pair of headphones and just take off one of the cans lol.
I don't seem to have a problem with them. I assume you're referring to the left side hitting the bell tube? I don't have that problem.
wonderful, have you introduced any change nowadays? any upgrade to your equipments?
Well, yes. Almost every piece of equipment you see behind me has either been sold or is being sold. Over the 5 years since recording this video, all that stuff has gone into the computer. No more mixing board, outboard gear, or massive patch bay. And I would say that yes, THAT has been an upgrader. My studio has more space and patching effects and channels is MUCH easier through software. But the principles of micing and mixing have not changed. The things I demonstrated in this video are as valid as the day I recorded this video.
I know this video is eight years old, but it was instrumental in helping me make this back in October: ua-cam.com/video/8QihQnOOk-U/v-deo.htmlsi=riNOHC1MmLeCWCI2
Condenser for a brass. Interesting. Forgive me if I missed it, but what is your opinion of using a ribbon? From what I've heard others say, ribbons are the go-to for capturing brass. Any reason you've went with the condenser?
I have a Coles Ribbon mic that sounds good, but I much prefer the warmth and sensitivity of the Neumann M-149. I don't blast into it because it's easy to distort it. That's one reason I like it, because it forces me to play with finesse rather than with typical trombone force. Here's an example of the detail I get: www.altobone.com/dat-dere/
Is there anywhere I can hear the full version of what is played at 4:31 ? I’ve been coming back just to listen to that snippet for months. Love to find a full version on spotify or youtube if possible!
Tony, I went throught he archives to find that video, but I couldn't find it. Eight years ago is an eternity! But I believe that I was simply improvising over those simple changes and there was no longer version. I was just noodling around in order to provide an example. Thanks for your support!
@@mymusicsavvy Oh I understand. I appreciate the response!! Sounds amazing.
I too dig his little groove melody. I dug around on his site to see if he turned it into an actual track, but no dice. Heart break.
@@T83Musicdude same!! It’s so addicting, I looked everywhere
OK, nit pick here. When you do your with and without comparison, you should really level match. Of course it sounds better louder. Let's hear what it sounds like at the same level. Beautiful sound and playing!
You're right that I should have level matched. I'll definitely do that in future videos on recording. Thanks.
What was the song he was playing with the mix? It sounded amazing!
Afternoon in Paris. One of my favorites!!
The Sound is truly incredible, but also there's like $6k invested in this tone :/
It's all hard work my friend ;) no microphone will improve your trombone tone quality
now do the same with cheaper mic and preamp.