Primus Spider 2 Remote Canister Stove - Innovation or Novelty??
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- We have looked at TONS of stoves here on the channel, and I have tended to really like stoves from the company Primus. They are well made and tend to perform very well. The Spider 2 caught my eye, so was it worth the money?
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Please don’t do the music montage again in the boil test. I’ve been following you for years and really Enjoy the organic sounds of the stoves running while the test is operating. The reason why I watch these episodes of stoves is to actually see, watch, and hear the stoves running. I appreciate everything you do Ernie for such a small selective group on UA-cam to follow. Please don’t take this negatively I’m simply trying to be constructive. Thank you for your time.
It's a good time to watch a positive video about a hiking stove.
Hmmmm, Very Tempting Stove. You're right, the little heat exchanger technology does make a noticeable difference. Like Shark Marles said, the multi fuel kit would be interesting to check out.
Thank you for your channel & reviews, you've saved me from making more than one ridiculous mistake. But also helped me make some wise purchases.
Oh snap, looks like I’m buying another stove! 😂
The heat exchanger is a higher efficient type but they do have drawbacks. They suck so much heat out of the gasses that incomplete combustion happens. So only use the heat exchanger pots outdoors and not in a tent as it will make CO gas.
Thanks Ernie. Real fun to watch these vids. Real interesting. Thanks!!
I enjoy the channel thanks for the vid. Don’t feel pressure to pump out videos and get burned out again! Hah. We can survive with less frequent videos.
Thanks for the comeback and the all the content you have made already!
Spider Express is not only designed to use pots with radiators underneath. Its burner was used as a core of Primus ETA Power system with dedicated windshield, pot with cover or pan (depending on set generation), plastic bowl and an insulated pouch to store the whole system and or to put the freshly cooked food to keep it cooking with residual heat. As for the Express Spider itself - with the multifuel kit it does work, but with less power, as stated by the manufacturer (1500W if I remember correctly). Priming tray is a bit fiddly to mount and it prevents the legs from closing all the way, so the stove becomes slightly less compact. Overall It is a cool piece of design. I would like to see its next generation with concave burner head and a lip around it - similar to Soto Amicus or MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe.
Always enjoy your stove test videos.
Love all the videos and especially the Colman white gas and multi fuel stoves. Have fun boiling water and stay safe.
great video, this looks like a really good stove the heat exchangers are great and save time and fuel, like a few others have said i would love to see the multi-fuel kit in action, keep up the great work
Thanks for the review Dr. Ernie. That is the largest pre-heat tube I have ever seen!
That is not only a stove but it is also a ROCKET 🚀 with its launching pad!🙃🤣 SORRY but I just love that rocket sounds and flame…all kidding aside it looks like a very nice stove!
I’ve had a small Primus stove with the igniter for over 20 years. Still works great. I bought another one just like it on eBay recently.
You should do a Primus Spider vs Kovea spider shootout. Those are very similar stoves, though the Primus pumps out more BTUs.
I have had this with the ETA Power kit for a few years. It mounts inside a windscreen, similar to the Trangia base, using little magnets in the feet. Very nice setup. I think as a standalone it is too exposed and tippy. Prefer Kovea with FlatCat windscreen since it is easier to invert
Spent my first weekend camp out with the new Pathfinder multi-fuel stove, would love to see you review that one I'd like to see what your thoughts are.
What are your thoughts about the Pathfinder?
Nice stove , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Good job
I just love Primus and not because Im Swedish but because they make really good stuff and its actually Primus that makes the gas burner that Trangia sell for there alcohol stoves.
Thanks for sharing that Primis makes the Trangia gas stove. I have that stove and like it very much.
It says om Trangias own website that their gas burner is made in china?
@@northernswedenstories1028 Yes and?
@@Jakelol1980 you said primus makes it? Primus stoves should be made in Europe
@@northernswedenstories1028 Yes but i never said it was made in Sweden.
Enjoyed the review. Personally I would go for the Primus Gravity 3 as it has a wider burner making it more versatile and only weighs 50g more.
Nice review Ernie! I have the original Spyder with magnetic feet I picked up a few years ago. It came with a surrounding heat shield that looks much like one of their pots and does a fantastic job blocking the wind but is a little bit on the hefty side if you were backpacking and concerned with weight. I did buy the multi-fuel kit and it does say to use different jets for different fuels but I found one jet that works very good with both the canister fuel and white gas in normal camping temps above freezing. I have not tried it in colder temps though. I have their assortment of heat exchanger pots too. Everything they make is in my opinion some of the best quality you can get. Jeff
Nice video, looks like a nice stove. Very curious about the multi fuel kit and how that looks and runs.
Nice! Looks like it would handle a small fry pan well.
SRO has a multi fuel stove, great stove. Thanks for the video stay safe
firstly i added a com to test primus stoves.. now he loves them 😆😉🤣🤣👍
Looks great, I wonder about boil times with the propane adapter for these isobutane stoves since it works better in cold temperatures. I would think the ability to flip the canister upside down would be a better use with that large preheat tube but the valve seems to make that not an option. I really like the looks of the pathfinder stove and it is supposed to come with the adapters from the start.
primus is my favorite. In 35 years of outdoors Experience, I've been trying a lot of gas stoves as well as gasoline and white fuel. Primus had almost always eventually had the upper hand. While American designs (or p.r.c copies alike) tend to throw power and heat all around those losing efficiency and waste fuel, Primus -and Trangia as well- tends to be focused and better. Maybe it's the military experience from ww 1-2. They do tend to be a bit heavy. But its great quality, hard earned field experience that earned my respect.
A bit of a warning: after u try Primus, its hard to go back.
About ignitor: u can buy and add one, or get it off a cheap stove and attach.
For multi fuel: get the Garavity 3 model. I think it's generally better than the spider, that had been designed for bagpacking, but heavy and designed for car/ base camp/ mazzochist hikers.
I love this stove. And works good with the multifuel kit. Not as good as a primus multifuel stove. But it's nice to have the option.
Primus is a long-standing company. They made the stoves that Rold Amundsen took on his expedition to the South Pole in 1911.
Nice work! Is the weight that you mention (200 grams) with the heat reflectors included?
I have one of these stoves I got it at great price, overall I'm ok with it. My nits are that the legs do not lock in position (on my version) and the burner flame spread is small which concentrates the heat so frying and sautéing is difficult. I also have the Primus 1.5 liter ETA cook pot and the Optimus Terra Weekend HE Heat Exchange pot at .95 liters. Both pots work well with this stove. I admit after using this stove on a few trips I ended up selling my venerable MSR Whisperlite as I enjoy the performance and ease of use of this stove. Yes a windscreen is needed .
As a cannister base remote stove is is kinda, meh. The Kovea Spider and the Fire Maple Blade 2 are better options. As a Multi-Fuel stove, this looks outstanding and has a tremendous amount of value (at $75 not including the conversion kit). All remote canister stoves can use a fairly tight windscreen so the open frame is not much of a problem. Good video, looking forware to when you find the converion skit.
A Kovea main part had once melted under my pot in the middle of the JMT, almost exploding the whole thing. Mapel .. well, not far from Kovea "quality". If u like them, go for it. I won't ever use them again.
I prefer the heat exchanger type stoves, when the stove fits up into the heat exchanger. That makes them highly wind resistant. This one with the preheat coil negates that.
msr windpro fan here....thinking primus did alright on this but i like the larger flame-front.
Wanna buy mine? It's brand new!
You may be more interested in the review of Primus Gravity II or III then. I have excluded first generation due to its flawed design. I must say, as a user of the Gravity I would like to play with Windpro or Simmerlite one day.
Yes, preheated gas burns a bit hotter. However the main purpose of a generator is to evaporate liquids. So I wonder why they do not include a simple up side down adapter for the cartridge, which avoid destilling the gas. The purpose the this stove is for beginners starting with gas and get the option to multi fuel upgrade.
Its a grest well made stove. Just a bit heavy and bulky for hiking standards today. Id like to ser them make a real kovea spider alternative
How loud is it compared to something else? Or another stove?
Please let me know which remote stove in your favorite. And which alcohol stove as well
Any way to get it into a trangia storm cooker? Or 5 in firebox?
A guy on Classic Camp Stove forum showed how to use it with a Trangia 25. The small narrow flame will touch the pan easy through the hole in the Trangia. No modifications were necessary.
Question: with the valve being vertical, how practical will that be if and when you need to invert the canister?
Can just hold it for 2-3 minutes
@@bcamping1 I guess? Sounds kinda lame and a waste of time...
My first thought when I saw the pre-heat tube was "how do they expect you to invert the canister without it resting on the valve?" You could probably make a simple stand out of coat hanger wire, but shouldn't that be included?
@@mikevandebunt811 That’s a good point, MSR include a plastic stand for their Whisperlite stoves, Primus really should include something similar.
Optimus make a very similar stove called the Vega. The burner is a bit more spread out and it has a built in stand for the can to be inverted so it’s marginally better.
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How can you effectively use the stove with the canister inverted in cold temps? The design seems to prevent this
You can just lay it on something to support inverted position. Some rocks, branches... Or just let it stay somewhere between inverted and sideways. In this mode you loose fine flame adjustment anyway due to the large amount of fuel between the regulating knob and the preheating pipe.
@@mateuszm6394 I find the loss of fine control greatly exaggerated with my Optimus Vega so that is what brought the question to mind, because this, and the earlier Spider seems to just say "meh" to the issues of ease of use in cold conditions.
@@johnschmalbach8243 Vega seems to have much smaller diameter of the generator pipe. Maybe this is the reason? Something to do with the amount of fuel being vaporized at once? I have both versions of the Spider Express. The only difference I can see between them is the pattern of cutouts on the legs and slightly thinner sheet metal the newer version of the legs is made from. By the way, as the brass parts are made to fit the thicker legs, upgraded version of the stove is a bit wobbly (at least mine is - I do not see that here in PaleoHikerMD video it might have been changed in later production runs) and requires a shim to make it feel as sturdy as the previous one.
@@johnschmalbach8243 I have just tried to use Express Spider in inverted mode again. Simmering was not an option. I could only get "off", "jet engine" or "jet engine with afterburner" settings. Not even close to the normal mode with ability to gradually lowering the output down to almost a candle level.
@@mateuszm6394 the design makes more since then. With the Vega the simmering in liquid/inverted mode is obviously not as precise as it would be in regular/gas mode but it's still better than some regular canister stoves I have used like the BRS and other stoves that sell themselves on their weight and speed of boils vs efficiency and cooking ability.
Are you doctor?
Sorry, I don't get it.
Why is it always how fast it can boil water, and how big a pot can be used.
I don't cook for a whole company of soldiers.
I cook for me, and maybe a friend.
I use a 20 cm. Carbon iron pan. There is space enough for two steaks. A 1.5 liter pot is big enough for potatoes and vegetables for two people.
For me, it is more interesting how SLOWLY it can boil water.
The problem is often that I can't turn them down far enough so that I don't burn my steak, or burn the stew I'm trying to heat.
And I don't really care if it takes 3 or 6 minutes to make a cup of coffee.
If I want to boil water quickly on gas. I would use a Jetboil.
Here I am not only referring to this channel.
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