Tools that can produce similar end products for sure, but the GF is definitely better for those detailed panels. Where the SO shines is in larger applications. I just cut 256, 20mm dog holes (96mm OC), on a 4’x8’ sheet of MDF. I used a 1/4” shank, 1/2” diameter double flute bit in “Helix” mode and I was able to cut all 256 holes accurately in a couple hours. This is very difficult to do using a drill and a PARF system - definitely not doable in 2 hours. Anyway, I like your video. Keep up the good work sir.
I have a GF but I just ordered the Origin so I could name nursery names signs longer than 19” without having to glue pieces together. I’m so excited. Thanks for the comparison! 🤗
I enjoy my SO but completely relate to the tedium. 3 hours per panel exceeds my patience level, while I like the finished product I will not be making one of these lamps. Thanks for posting.
Hello from Hudson. New apron? Looks sharp. I tried the Shaper Origin at a local woodworking show (Woodworkers Guild of America just down the road) and found it very friendly to use. I don’t know about budget for productivity over time. It comes down to how many projects I’d actually use it on over time. Glowforge maybe more flexible because it can engrave or brand or whatever else it can do.
Hello! Yes...new apron from a company called Artifact. I do use my GF more, enjoy the Shaper more as it feels like true woodworking vs fabrication. Thanks for the comment!
I would buy a Shark or a Stepcraft and buy the laser add on until you can afford both. I have a Mira 7 but buying an origin for large pieces. I will be adding a Stepcraft for 3D cutting later.
I have has the Origin for almost 2 years ago and I am very pleased. I have a small business, I design and build custome furniture. The Origin works great for me. But the Glowforge and the like interest me for smaller projects. I want to scale down. Do or can you substitute solid wood for parts like the lamp panels? Do you clean the edges, do they burn with the glowforge? Thank you.
common sense would tell you that taking yourself out of the equation almost entirely would shoot the shit out of the gratification of the task. how many kids in a Chinese sweatshop did it take to make either one of those contraptions happen? learn to carve. you'll sleep better at night.
“Things are changing, just like everything in life... and woodworking is being effected by that.” Yeah, no kidding. Your all becoming machinists and technicians. If operating a CNC is woodworking, then anyone who can download a file and press play is a master craftsman. I’ll stick to hand carving.
Nah. Still have to properly mill lumber before CNC, understand grain direction, understand property joinery and the engineering of it all. CNC is far from an easy button. Just opens more creative possibilities
@@ZachAshcraft that’s true! You need to prepare the material and install the appropriate cutter head. It is, in fact, literally harder than pressing a button. My point is that you are a machine operator and not a woodworker when press play, sit back, and watch to make sure nothing goes wrong. You are not making the cuts. You don’t even need to decide what cuts to make and in what order; the software handles that for you.
@@AftonWoodworks I see what you’re getting at. It would be nice to cut out perfect circles of any diameter with nothing but tape and the Shaper Origen, but for now at least, it’s still cheaper just to make a jig for my router. Anyway, I don’t think it’s brainless. Of course it takes plenty of brain power to design something for a CNC. I just think it’s the muscle memory and motor skills that make a good craftsman. I guess that’s what you’re getting at with it being an “in between”, because it’s still hand operated.
Tools that can produce similar end products for sure, but the GF is definitely better for those detailed panels. Where the SO shines is in larger applications. I just cut 256, 20mm dog holes (96mm OC), on a 4’x8’ sheet of MDF. I used a 1/4” shank, 1/2” diameter double flute bit in “Helix” mode and I was able to cut all 256 holes accurately in a couple hours. This is very difficult to do using a drill and a PARF system - definitely not doable in 2 hours. Anyway, I like your video. Keep up the good work sir.
Thanks for the comment!
I have a GF but I just ordered the Origin so I could name nursery names signs longer than 19” without having to glue pieces together. I’m so excited. Thanks for the comparison! 🤗
Nice shop set up!
Thanks for the info…..easy to understand…..to the point. Looking forward to more ideas what the Origin will do.
Thanks for the feedback
Thanks for sharing!
These are the type of videos I'm trying to find. I wanted to dive into shaper. But I can now see it's pros and cons.
Thank you!
I enjoy my SO but completely relate to the tedium. 3 hours per panel exceeds my patience level, while I like the finished product I will not be making one of these lamps. Thanks for posting.
Ya. Not sure I will/would make it again. Thanks for the comment.
Hello from Hudson. New apron? Looks sharp. I tried the Shaper Origin at a local woodworking show (Woodworkers Guild of America just down the road) and found it very friendly to use. I don’t know about budget for productivity over time. It comes down to how many projects I’d actually use it on over time. Glowforge maybe more flexible because it can engrave or brand or whatever else it can do.
Hello! Yes...new apron from a company called Artifact. I do use my GF more, enjoy the Shaper more as it feels like true woodworking vs fabrication. Thanks for the comment!
I’ve got an origin. Been seriously considering a glowforge, but can’t decide between that and a flatbed CNC. I really like the idea of a laser.
Ideally all three have a place but that is a lot of $$$$
@@AftonWoodworks that’s the truth. If 2022 is as good as 2021, maybe by the end of the year I could swing em both. Fingers crossed.
I would buy a Shark or a Stepcraft and buy the laser add on until you can afford both. I have a Mira 7 but buying an origin for large pieces. I will be adding a Stepcraft for 3D cutting later.
@@Jesusistheonlyway549 I ended up going with a xtool d1 and a xcarve 1000x1000
@@geef0813 how do you like your xcarve? Now that you own a benchtop CNC, do you still like your Origin?
I have has the Origin for almost 2 years ago and I am very pleased. I have a small business, I design and build custome furniture. The Origin works great for me. But the Glowforge and the like interest me for smaller projects. I want to scale down. Do or can you substitute solid wood for parts like the lamp panels? Do you clean the edges, do they burn with the glowforge? Thank you.
Next vid compare a Fiskars hatchet vs a Cleveland 5 axis cnc machine.
common sense would tell you that taking yourself out of the equation almost entirely would shoot the shit out of the gratification of the task. how many kids in a Chinese sweatshop did it take to make either one of those contraptions happen? learn to carve. you'll sleep better at night.
Hey Ron. I am a crabby old man, but you put me to shame.
“Things are changing, just like everything in life... and woodworking is being effected by that.”
Yeah, no kidding. Your all becoming machinists and technicians. If operating a CNC is woodworking, then anyone who can download a file and press play is a master craftsman.
I’ll stick to hand carving.
Nah. Still have to properly mill lumber before CNC, understand grain direction, understand property joinery and the engineering of it all. CNC is far from an easy button. Just opens more creative possibilities
@@ZachAshcraft that’s true! You need to prepare the material and install the appropriate cutter head. It is, in fact, literally harder than pressing a button.
My point is that you are a machine operator and not a woodworker when press play, sit back, and watch to make sure nothing goes wrong. You are not making the cuts. You don’t even need to decide what cuts to make and in what order; the software handles that for you.
That is one reason I like the shaper origin. You are still engaged and need to use your brain. It is a good “in between”.
@@AftonWoodworks I see what you’re getting at. It would be nice to cut out perfect circles of any diameter with nothing but tape and the Shaper Origen, but for now at least, it’s still cheaper just to make a jig for my router. Anyway, I don’t think it’s brainless. Of course it takes plenty of brain power to design something for a CNC. I just think it’s the muscle memory and motor skills that make a good craftsman. I guess that’s what you’re getting at with it being an “in between”, because it’s still hand operated.