Hey, If you look closely when the microphone flies over to someone you can see some white bit on the screen! it must be string! The microphone was clearly suspended using string during the recording. This completely disproves every logical and scientifically grounded thing you say in this video, because I noticed, ONE thing.
I was expecting LEO, but it's Jake. That was the only surprise. ;) Don't worry Dan. You're not the first UA-camr to have some ignorant septic think they can have a go at you for being English. The rest of the US is just lauging at them.
“Durr hurr he’s in civilian clothes they didn’t even give him a jumpsuit”, so what, he’s mocking their supposed incompetent attempt at faking being in space, yet claims they’ll go out of their way to use incredibly sophisticated graphical engineering to fake the entire thing. Got it. Reeeeeal smart
not just graphical. the amount of effort to fake the launch and rendezvous with some blinky thing in space. wouldn't people be easier to control if there weren't space anyway? or is it some thing where "fooled" people don't contribute to mana for god, who doesn't need mana or such?
Yep apparently NASA & the Governments go to Extreme Engineering & Videography Lengths to Hide Reality but apparently all the mistakes are so easy to see
Roskosmos should be asked why their cosmonauts wore everyday clothes during this farewell to the Ax-1 mission. Possibly as a minor slight to the Americans or maybe they simply did not care. The one on the very left is Denis Matveev, by the way.
It's so annoying when flat earthers have this snarky incredulous tone about them as if they have everything figured out when in fact it's just the opposite and they don't even know how clueless they are. This is straight up cringe inducing.
Y’all globies are hilarious, trying to feel good about yourselves by downplaying or making fun of flat earthers. At the end of the day it’s about free thinking nothing wrong with thinking outside the box. We could be on a fucking football for all I care.
"They should be bouncing of each other." "There is no way all of these people could stay still" Meanwhile, at the bottom (and all around the interior) you can clearly see the hand holds they hooked their feet into to stay put and not float off.
Or the random items floating in the way that have to be pushed out of shot. Yeah, Jake the Arsehole is right. It is a matter of his opinion. Unfortunately,what he states is NOT the truth, whether he likes it or not, the F**ktard!
The bars for their feet are where they have decided the floor would be. Done to help orientation. Not floating off, is why they hold their arms if not doing anything with them.
Flat Earhters: "Trust your senses!" Everyone else: "You can literally see the ISS with your own eyes as it flies infront of the moon." Flat Earthers :"No, not like that!."
Don't you know the moon Is a hologram and NASA can put any image up there they want. Like a space station flying by. Any proof, conspiracy theorists have an answer, it's like trying to wrestle jello.
@@C.Mc. Can you see it with a telescope? I thought that since it was going around the Earth so fast you wouldn't be able to focus on it for long enough? Or you'd have to adjust your telescopes viewfinder as you track it?
@@jazzabighits4473 Reds Rhetoric filmed the ISS flying by the moon a few years back. It was really cool what he did, he just filmed it and released the video, waited for the flat earthers to make a video debunking it. The night he did it though, he had a second friend film it from another location. Then after the flat earth videos, he releases a video he already made of his video, his friends video, proof of time and location of both videos. Then used geometry to prove how high the ISS was flying and the speed it was flying at. It all added up to what NASA claims.
@@jazzabighits4473, asks _"Can you see it with a telescope?"_ You can see it with the naked eye, so, yah. You can see it with a telescope. (note: The reverse isn't necessarily true). _"I thought that since it was going around the Earth so fast you wouldn't be able to focus on it for long enough?"_ That can be handled in two ways: one, you set up the telescope to look where it's going to be then you can watch it cross the telescope's field of view; two, you use a telescope that has motorized controls for movement and you have it track* the movement of the ISS, much like a TV camera will track a race car going around a track. * The ISS's movement is very regular and predictable, tracking it isn't difficult.
@@fred_derf I knew you could see it with the naked eye, I have before. I just didn't realise that you could see it with a telescope. So you do need to track it or view it as it goes across its normal path? Thanks for the info :)
I love how his entire argument is "it could be fake, therefore it is!" As though the rest of reality simply conforms to whatever his imagination might come up with.
"Go Vote. Especially for the small posts. Why are there still Monkeys when we came from Monkeys, a real Republican running for Congress recently asked. Whoever you are, go vote and vote against people. Left or Right, you do NOT want someone who does not understand the very basics of Science as a Senator or such." -Telltale
@@loturzelrestaurant depends on how important a basic understanding of evolution is for that position... ...and what are the other options / are the other candidates any better? Sounds like the guy just tries to protect his faith. It might not even be his own "fault" he doesn't know better. Maybe he grew up in a deeply religous family and had to visit a christian school/college. People pushing their beliefs on the next generation, that's what must finally stop.
@@Gorth_the_Ork Yes, pushing the beliefs onto the next generation... remind me, who was world-famous for doing that? Oh yeah... religion... ... ...And yes, he grew up as a Jehowas Witness, hence why he's not one of the best Atheist-UA-camrs. And the Evolution-Question about being important to Rule over a Nation? Silly question, c'mon now. It's obiously extremly bad if people in Congress dont have a s-itting clue about the World they live in.
@@Gorth_the_Ork In this day and age not understanding the basics of evolution shows one is capable of shielding oneself from well established facts on grounds of faith or straight stupidity , not what anybody reasonable would want from a legislator supposed to be cogently addressing issues with fact based decision making. You cannot hope stopping ignoramuses pushing their beliefs on the next generation if you allow ignoramuses politicians to vote laws to do just that ..
DEBUNK THIS POUAAAAAHAccording to Astro physics, "spacewalks" are possible only because of the "Vacuum" of space. This creates a "Non-Friction" environment allowing "astronauts" to sustain the maximum velocity of their "outings' ". The mentioned speed of the space station is a mere: 17 150 mph ( 5 miles per second ) - 27 600 km/hr ( 8 km /sec ). This would be completely impossible here on earth at those speeds due to the friction of Air. This being said, add the 66 600 mph of earth's orbit, this again, with environmental friction,would be impossible. This brings a question to mind, what does your thrusters, thrust against? You need something to push against. Boats and submarines use water, jet engines use air flow, vehicles use the friction of land. You can come up with the astro mathematics with cool cgi theoretical answers and drawings you want, I do not believe in a science that does not use the scientific method. If it can not be experimented and proven, it's called belief. Religion. Not Science Spare me Newton's "theory" that "rockets" do not require a push surface! Then you would have to explain the 4 miles Smoke Cloud produced when Thrust is engaged at Lift Off after Ignition is confirmed... That to me, is considered quite an "Air Displacement" to propel so much weight high enough... Lies always contradict themselves. In addition to this complete impossibility, when astronauts let go of the """"iss""""International S... Station, they are no longer going at the maximum velocity of 8 km/s. There is movement, displacement even if no friction. , shouldn't they be 8 km behind after 1 second? And there body snap in two at the end of whatever "harness" they are attached with, head over toes, like a Ragdoll ! 1 second/8km-2seconds/16kms-3 seconds 24km... Before stopping after drag velocity and float in """space""" for eternity...No, instead he just "FLOATS" ( the only place in reality I can relate to that status is, in water) there and makes signs with his hands for you to be amazed. No stars, no satellites, no debris???? 8km/s maximum VELOCITY, without doing the math, cause I don't have the knowledge to do so, THE NUMBER OF G'S on that little human body, would have to be in the 4 digits... Change my mind using empirical applied science. Physics in this case. Scratch Conscience 🧠🧠🕵🕵🕵👨🔬👨🔬👨🔬👨🔬👨🔬👨🔬👨🧠🧠🕵🕵👨🔬👨🔬👨
@Lefroy are you going to provide evidence to back up this claim of NASA having incentives? Or are you going to flerf it up and say something along the lines of "yOu aRe iNdOcTrInAtEd, dO yOuR rEsEaRcH"?
@Lefroy completely just proved my point there, well done. Your personal incredulity and unwillingness to accept the mountains of evidence we have isn't my problem. I'm sure whatever god you believe in won't like that you failed to "convert the devil worshiper" 😂
I for one would like to thank NASA for developing such advanced CGI but request that they let Hollywood have access to their technology and spare us from the unconvincing crap that they give us.
Fun fact: Once you actually spend the billions of dollars to put the ISS in orbit, you can shoot these space pictures with little effort and even less cost. It's like a fun bonus.
it's like that Stanley Kubrick joke. He was tasked with staging the Moon landing, but seeing as he wanted to get it perfect, he decided to film on location.
@@Lucian_Andries I can't believe you have never heard that joke. I must watch a LOT more flat Earth stuff than you do. I have heard it a zillion times. That one and also, "If the Earth were truly flat the cats would have already knocked everything off the edge."
@@kathleenr4047 - you've just inadvertently proven a flat earth AND consumerism, all in one comment. The reason why people need to continuously buy things is to replace the stuff that the cats have pushed over the edge. Now, I'm going to have to make a trek to Antarctica to see if I can locate my car keys.
Conspiracy Theorists: 11 people on the ISS? Impossible. Also Conspiracy Theorists: 11 people together on a single sound stage on earth? Equally impossible. Must have been CGI.
i thought that! like whats his point? why would it have to be CGI if its fake, surely they'd just put 11 people on a stage on earth.. so so funny but scary at the same time that these crazy people are out there
We have had blue screen since 1930s and Who framed Roger rabbit , was first movie that used green screen and thats from 1988 . Even before blue screen they used single color background (black or white), and had people dressed in same color to move objects , oldest trick in the business .
@@pete_lind - actual green 'green screens' were used by televisions studios, during the '70's, for weather forecast segments. The first movie to use it was 'The Empire Strikes Back' (1980) for which Richard Edlund won an academy award. As everyone else is wondering, what exactly is your point?
It’s easy to debunk the space station when all you have to say is “CGI” and “greenscreen”. If you really wanna get scientific about debunking the space station you can pull out the “hairspray and wires” argument
Because they know NOTHING about how CGI works. Dunning-Kruger at its best. To them it's like magic. Show this to Corridor Crew and they would facepalm so hard.
I love the hairspray and wires idea. It really sheds light on how delusional they are. Like they believe that there are people that every now and then are suspended by wires and have their hair sprayed to appear they are inverted on the sole purpose of "tricking" all of humanity. It's fascinating.
It's also easy to debunk when an earthworm has a higher IQ. Oh and why is it that these retarded a##holes think all English speak like Hugh Grant or full on cockney.
@@Mugdorna Yes, watched 55 minutes of unbroken footage of people and items floating around the ISS unexplained, to find that 5 seconds of footage that he could add a subjective analysis to. Flat earth 101, if you focus on what you can describe in your own world view and ignore everything else, then you are right and everything else is a hoax.
If they were going to fake a person just standing there...why not give him a crew shirt? "It's as if they're just standing around on Earth." But it isn't though, is it? No one appears to actually be standing at all. They all appear to be floating. And he doesn't really understand anything about "freefall" at all, does he? "...a pocket of gravity to escape the jumpsuit." We have jumpsuit sized null-gravity fields? "Now this is just my opinion...however, it's the truth whether you like it or not." That wouldn't be an "Opinion" then, would it? PERSONAL INCREDULITY!!!
yep, that's THE most popular excuse for ALL conspiracy nuts. i like to retort, "do you think computers are fake because you don't understand how they work?"
"There is no way they could stay so still!" Yea Jake, you would know what the ISS was like seeing how you have spent soooo much time out in the weightlessness of space.
One reason they stay still is because in zero g (or micro gravity) small movements will cause you to spin and float around, so you either learn to anchor yourself and stay still or you do a great impersonation of bb in a spray can.
They'd also be moving at the same speed as the station, unless an outside force acted on them, so unless they moved or touched something (or something touched them) they'd stay in much the same position.
7:25 these guy are doing a hell of a job staying perfectly still. It's almost as if they're falling at the same rate as each other and their surroundings. with minimal forces acting on them. floating if you will. As if in microgravity per se.
@@InAMinMaths Air currents from life support systems, movement, heat differentials, and the breath of their colleagues. Orbital drift, the moon, the sun, static charges in fabrics and surfaces. Just off the top of my head.
@@InAMinMaths My guess is there are air currrents around the station, (as the greatest factor to movment other then the crew's own movment) not sure if that would be enough to slowly move the mass of a person. Perhaps, as they do velco themselves to the walls to sleep. Then again, I hear folk coming back from ISS just drop stuff all the time having gotten used to stuff staying where they put it. I guess that's what fools Jake and those like him. We're so used to such factors being set the way they are. it's hard to even speculate as to what stays the roughly the same and what changes drastically.
I mean just the fact that, if you are on Earth you can test out relativity by just taking a plane or train and just walking around while the vehicle is in motion. Even though that plane is moving at 400+ mph you can stand perfectly still. You won't be knocked around, I mean you will if there is turbulence or a sudden change in motion, bit not from the relative speed of the vehicle itself like this dude is claiming with the ISS. Hmmmm I wonder how that is.
@@llacy11 I was once on an airplane going into Chicago. Just as we were coming in over the city we hit an exceptionally calm bit of air space. For a few moments it really felt like the plane was stationary and the city sliding past. Really cool.
“That doesn’t look right to me” “I don’t think that’s right” “I don’t think that should happen” “I’d think it’d work this way” All “I”. I don’t think it works like that, therefore it doesn’t
I can't believe that we are living in the era having actual photos of Earth taken from satellites and other spacecrafts, having so many satellites orbiting Earth in various altitude and direction, having a LIVE footage of Earth from the ISS, having a footage of the ISS ITSELF taken from the ground (with good equipment, of course), yet a guy like this still exists.
Every time I hear a flatearther (or conspiracy theorists in general), I instantly think of a specific line from 'Big Bang Theory'... "People should have chips implanted in their skulls that explode when they say something stupid." I find this a quite compelling idea...
...and that the people on the lower part of the video are interacting with the people on the top, including passing on the microphone back and forth. This would be really hard to fake with separate takes, especially in a long uncut segment.
@@Flawaffles Very poor effort. Its obviously every hair tied by a thread to a cloud of micronanodrones (NASA has these) hovering around her head which are then removed by CGI or green screen or something.
I think this Jake guy believes Jewish people are in control and are taking over the world. Hence his highlighting of someone speaking in Hebrew. Don't forget that a lot of flat earthers are also Q Anon believers and Trump supporters.
If any flat earther knew how to do simple geometry, they would realize that even if the sun was only 84 miles above their imaginary flat earth it would always be daylight, no sunsets or sunrises. If the sun was 84 mi above a flat earth if you were standing 8,000 mi away from the Sun It would still be 6/10 of a degree above the horizon. Most flat earthers believe the sun is about 4,000 mi above the flat Earth. At that altitude if you were standing 8,000 mi away from the sun it would be 26 and 1/2 degrees above the horizon. This clearly demonstrates just how ignorant flat earthers are.
The amount of rage this dude harbors towards you. He must be triggered everytime he watches you and realizes he can't beat you. Isn't imitation the greatest form of flattery?
Jealousy of accomplished people perhaps Also this gives jake the feeling that he is onto something that no one else is that’s good for the ego If he is just a conman and grifter if could also be good for his ego as he can make some money and trigger people Dans success I think, comes from his unflappable demeanor and politeness which must get jake even angrier
CGI artist "Alright. Let's do a good job on this one" another artist wispers to a co-worker "Sure, but remember to include some anomalies. The sheep that already believe us without this and don't need it won't care but the skeptics, who we want to control or eliminate, will see it and know it's fake so they can say we failed." Right
you got to love how flat earthers always make "the they" so powerful but then also act like the most lazy secret organization out there. no quality check, not even double take like they always do it in one take just to get it done.
Hey and let's make sure we film one guy just sitting there for minutes by himself....and then splice him in with all the other people that are....not doing that Why are you giving him a jumpsuit? Do you want this too be TOO convincing????!
DUDE, stop giving away NASA's secret agenda!! The flat-earthers will see us both commenting on their deception and -- oh crap...! **adopts casual pose.** Well, hi there, flat-earth internetters, ha ha...how YOU doin'?
Can you imagine what would happen if NASA really did pull an April Fool's prank on dumbass flat earthers/space deniers, and intentionally comped in a stage light falling over in the background or something? It would be the greatest April Fool's day in history.
The guy in the center of the front row literally has his right foot wedged under a bar to hold himself in place. 3:08 Those bars are place around the space station for JUST that reason. For the astronauts to either hold onto with their hand, or to hook a foot under to hold themselves in one place.
I love how they're faking it, and then they describe the great lengths they went to to fake it. Hey, since were faking it, instead of getting 10 people all acrossed the world, green screen, then splice it all together. How about we just grab 10 random people, go over to this warehouse and fake it.
This is fantastic: "the guy on the far left is in civilian clothing, they didn't even give him a jumpsuit". So, a multimillion dollar deception, yet they spare a $10 jumpsuit?
@@Forest_Fifer I've figured it out that this was shot last month, the astronaut speaking Hebrew was Eytan Stibbe - he's only the second Israeli astronaut, the first Ilan Ramon was killed in 2003 during the Columbia disaster. The "Axiom-1" privately-funded crew (which Eytan was part of) also included American real estate mogul Larry Connor, Canadian financier Mark Pathy, and veteran Spanish-American astronaut Michael Lopez-Alegria (all but Lopez-Alegria paid $55M apiece for the flight). They went up on April 8 and returned on April 25. You can see the Axiom-1 logo on a couple of the astronauts. That's three civilians. I don't speak Hebrew, but I suspect part of what Stibbe said was about Ramon - part of his purpose was commemorating him.
4:30. No they were not IN different parts of the World when they shot this scene; they were ABOVE different parts of the World when they shot this scene.
Ya know Dan, some of these flat earthers are actually doing so much to discredit the flat earth movement, you should start thanking them at the end of your videos as well as your sponsors. Give credit where its due!
Ever wonder why flerfs don't just create their own "fake" space footage just to show hows its done? They always make it seem like they know so much about video editing techniques and how easy it is to fake the footage, so... why don't they? Anyone that thinks editing of this type is easy has never tried it.
Yea my high school music teacher always told us that we only played as well as the worst member in the band. I’m afraid if we were evaluated from an off world entity, the might consider just how dumb and afraid were are able to be.
@@bearlemley I dunno about that. We've had religion with it's giant foot on the neck of critical thinking for centuries... yet, here we are in all our technological glory.
I heard a lot of hypothesis from that guy, I'm still waiting for any proof. Meanwhile I heard a lot of statements showing a total lack of understanding of basic physics and a really worrying tendancy to what looks like some sort of paranoïa. But as I refuse to believe blindly his stories, I guess this makes me a "sheepple"... Oh, and the fact that this guy find suspect that a Israeli speaks in his native language says much more about him that he'd probably want us to know. However I must admit that his feeble attempt of mimicking humility made me genuinly chuckle. So, he got one point for that. "This is just my opinion [...] however it is the truth." Oh man, he's very bad at this. :'D
Jake: "The guy on the left is in civilian clothing, they didn't even give him a jumpsuit" NASA: "Oh crap, somebody noticed. I told you we should've given him astronaut stuff. Quick, take the video down"
it is hilarious how they swap from NASA are evil geniuses capable of bending reality to completely incompetent to let this obvious mistake get through. It's almost like conspiracy theorists are creating things to fit their narrative
It wasn’t a change of crew, it was with Axiom Ax-1 when 4 tourists were on station. Crew-4 launched shortly after Ax-1 returned, followed by Crew-3 return.
No mentions of: 1. The one floating in at the beginning and getting situated with the others "upside-down". 2. The bag that keeps drifting in from their left ... pesky thing, that microgravity stuff! 3. The microphone, as Dan keeps pointing out. 4. The roll of duct tape apparently not sitting on anything ... just hanging out. 5. The fact that NONE of the people who are "upright" are actually standing OR sitting, they're in totally relaxed, bent legged position of FLOATING !!!
Jake has shown himself up a bit here... when he is mocked by the rest of us, it's not how he says it that we laugh at. It's the ridiculous things he says. For shame Jake...
Yes that’s what we do in VFX. If we need a bunch of people in a shot we coordinate actors all over the world to be filmed in the same lighting, at the same angle and distance from the same type of lens, making sure they react to timed cues that match the other actors. It really creates the perfect look for “people not really doing much” scenes.
Although I love the highlights of the moron videos, I sometimes have a hard time not bashing my head against a table at the stupidity. Keep up the good work Dan.
He should be talking really loud and flapping his arms. If you ever see an interview of a group of people, everyone talks and moves around at the same time. That way, they prove that the interview is not fake.
I mean, to be fair, he asserts that Big Space or whatever has enormous enough piles of money to send deadly patrols around the rim of the disk of the world to ensure NO explorers can possibly find the edge, so they obviously have the big budget bucks to do expensive video editing, while he's a poor normal guy exposing them and definitely doesn't have that kind of money. What's shocking is that this enormously well-funded organization can't afford better quality control on the videos he's so brilliantly debunking. 9_9
@@segevstormlord3713 - due to NASA budget constraints, the military force that used to guard the South Polar Ring and Ice Wall have been replaced with heavily armed penguins. Some of the former military force have been rapidly pressed into the ISS acting, production and editing roles. Hence, the 'poor' quality acting, SFX and filmography. Please forgive me. Was trying to tap into the flerf mindset.
@@maifantasia3650 That makes a scary amount of sense. We should keep an eye, as budgets get tighter, on the actors. If any appear in tuxedoes, we know they're actually the heavily armed penguins being brought in to keep the others in line and in character.
Matter of fact, Dan’s floating mic comments have quite a bit of weight. By saying that the astronauts are filmed separately, Jake is asserting that the thrower, filmed separately, is able to pass the microphone to the receiver, also filmed separately, all seamlessly! Not impossible given todays VFX tech, but given the number of “glitches” attributed to NASA footage, it’s little wonder no one addresses it.
I mean... editing himself in the ISS bideo is not hard to do if you Are familiar with Editing programs and greenscreens. BUT why would he? And why would anyone? Nasa didnt spend billions of dollars to fool humanity. They didnt waste thousands of peoples precious time to fool humanity. Humans would just not allow their already limited lifespan to be wasted in such a grand endeavor. People got better things to do then waste away their entire lives to fool others....unless... this is all real and these people accomplish actual amazing scientific research! Oh shit...
He ignores the floating microphone, that the crews arms very obviously aren't 'hanging heavy' against their bodies or sides as they would on Earth, the little bobbing motion whenever one of them does move and that the skin/flesh on their faces 'sits' differently as it would in gravity. Also Dan, love the wink after you said personal incredulity, I hope Jake sees it 😁
"There is no way they should all be able to stay still" Oh FFS! You can see, *on screen,* the middle two guys have their feet hooked under bars that are attached to the floor, and the guy that floated into frame at the beginning, you can see him hook a loop over his leg.
"It caused a pocket of gravity to escape the jumpsuit." How does anyone think that anyone else thinks that? That was never going to be the explanation. So funny.
well i know people that goes to the most extreme answer rather then the logical one, so its not that crazy to think people can be that dumb. Its not the information that's wrong its the way of thinking, and its just as bad to brush those people off as being morons because chances are they are still smarter then you but they way they think is nonsense.
@@CruiserDynasty It's literally your way of thinking that determines intelligence. This guy's way of thinking demonstrates his lack of intelligence, and his lack of correct information demonstrates his ignorance.
I used to work in post production editing. The movies could absolutely make 100% real "fake" footage of astronauts in zero gravity. It could also be done using NO ACTORS AT ALL, this is how good CGI effects are... but it would take a huge budget, and, it would look far better than this fixed lens with crappy lighting... and also who would try to sustain mundane BS goings on of things we can DOOoooo without special effects???
Just like with the moon landing hoax nonsense - actually going to the moon would have been easier (and cheaper) than faking it and keeping the lie a secret for over fifty years. Some people have just decided they will believe absolutely anything, no matter how ridiculous, rather than the simple truth. They think it makes them stand out from the crows - and it does, but not in the way they imagine.
@@tma2001 Well, if there isn't any information in the video that is related to something that can't be predicted you were not be able to tell that it's a live broadcast.
Also, there's NEVER any CGI personnel that come out to say they created these scenes. That would definitely leak at some point given how many people it would take to produce all the various footage.
@@kisslab If all you have is only the video, you are right. But if you follow all the missions and activities related to the ISS, like the cargo launches and launches of astronauts/cosmonauts to the ISS, and you know who's leaving it... You know who's onboard and what they do... If you're waiting for the planned interview, that occur at the previous given date and time, then you know it is live
“Don’t imagine for a second that all 11 people are together in a studio.” Okay! “…or in the ‘fake station.’” Well they’re not in a “fake station” either, the Space Station is very real. That checks out. lol
8:00 also, they clearly use the handles - you can see it in the guy passing the mike shortly after, he has his feet anchored to the handle in the floor, which is exactly how astronauts stay in place.
Actually the woman's hair would be very, very difficult. A Hollywood Studio would rather have her hair in a bun, so it would save the many hours of trouble with each hair strand.
@@sergibosch7217 you think these people would actually do any real research? Even as simple as looking thru a telescope. I doubt any of them even have a telescope to begin with. E: the only "research" they do is watching YT videos which validate their conspiracy ideas. They wouldn't be flerfs if they actually explored astronomy in the real world, instead of fantasizing about ridiculous shit based on what they read on the interwebs and a Bronze age collection of myths and legends.
Flat Earthers are like a small group of imbeciles that think grass is fake. A "fake grass" researcher finds a field (full of grass) walks out into the middle of it and finds a dandelion. He then proceeds to lie down in the middle of the grass and take close up pictures of the dandelion with his smartphone and then post the photos on his "Grass is Fake" website and UA-cam channel.
It will never cease to amaze me how some people (mainly Flerfs) insist that simply because they don't understand, or are incapable of grasping something, that it can't be real! And that, rather than educating themselves on the topic, they continue to act as if they're the only ones wise to what's going on while the rest of HUMANITY is somehow being magically duped! Also, I about lost it at Dan's accent impression! I've never heard him do that before, and it was just priceless!! 🤣🤣
When you are a stupid person but also have severe self-importance, your only conclusion is that if you can't understand something, no one can. They also see matters of science in a tribalistic way: "it's us versus those science jerks"
The fact that he keeps saying "in post-editing" makes me believe that he watched one of those fun fact videos, about editing an actor into the scene later or something, and just came up with this theory.
That's actually very telling: Those of us who are intelligent and understand the strides we've made in science and technology, versus those who have no clue how things work, barely grasping enough to make claims for things to be fake so they can keep their egos from drying up and blowing away...
I feel that even if I won the USA lotto and spent every penny of 200+ million to spend flat earthers to space to visit the ISS. They would still lie or pretend they were not in space
He's the kind of guy to get himself killed trying to prove that he wasn't really in a space station, and once his death would be public knowledge, every other flat earther would just say that the government killed him for getting to close to the "truth"
Yea, there is nothing you could do to get these guys to believe. They would just think they are on some Rollercoaster type ride with CGI windows, even if you sent them on a spacewalk they would say their visor is just a VR helmet or some shit also. Every single point of evidence you can show them they will just deny and claim fake, it's a sad existence and I do feel sorry for these people who just can't live in reality.
It'S funny, how he couldn't figure out, that they stay that still, because they use the HAndlwebars woth their Feet. If you slip your Foot under one of these Handlebars, you can pretty much secure your Position. And that area is often used for Photos, because they have good light and enough handlebars there.
I sometimes try to get myself in the mind of the “debunker” to attempt an understanding of why they think about things how they do. But the part with the collar is just awful, that is a motion I have seen happen almost identically down here on earth, you can clearly see it getting hung under his jaw line and then popping back into its natural position once it slips free. This dude is desperately grasping for new theories and they appear to be in the space station with him reaching so far for them. Lol 😂 Another good video Dan, and I wish you good luck on that run you mentioned.
I think professor Dave is right. Whatever flavor of conspiracy a person buys into really has nothing to do with the conspiracy itself or much personal connection to what it's regarding. It's about desiring an anti-establishment narrative of some kind and finding others who also don't "just believe everything their told." I don't know if he's right or not for sure, but I have a brother who is conspiracy minded and I definitely see that anti-establishment streak in him. Thankfully he's not a flat earther. But, he is into the whole idiotic sovereign citizen crap and unfortunately he's fallen with the COVID anti-vaxxers. He's not stupid, but he so desperately wants to believe that the establishment is bad that you can make him believe anything as long as you frame it a way that points toward the 1% being evil and corrupt.
@@a5c0 I mean, there ARE plenty of anti-establishment directions to go that actually have basis in fact. There's reason we have religious, scientific, and political debates, and it's not because anybody who disagrees with the "established truth" is a crazy nut. It's because a lot of the time, "established truth" isn't established at all, except in the minds of those who hold the bully pulpit at the moment. It would do the world and these folks a lot of good if they took that skepticism and turned it towards other things that actually affect them. Unfortunately, the flat earthers' demonstrated tendency to decide on a conclusion and then make up facts to fit means they're no more critical thinking than the "sheeple" they deride, who are happy to do the same thing with the "Establishment" theory. (Using their own words, here.)
_"I sometimes try to get myself in the mind of the “debunker” to attempt an understanding of why they think about things how they do."_ In this case it would be for hits. Just like this video incidently do. They both "debunk" each other and they both rely on hits when they do it and none of them actually believe in what they're doing and none of them have debunked anything.
@@a5c0 Just a slight correction, it's "...they're told." not "their told" 'told' doesn't belong but rather they are - with a contraction. You're (not your) welcome..
7:23 um... The hair? Anyone can do a floating microphone, but Hollywood had to cut Sandra Bullock's hair real short and it still just flopped around. The hair in this shot is doing "impossible" stuff.
I thought of ScManDan earlier today, when I heard a news bit about a new record solo circumnavigation of Antarctica. Something that flerfs also claim is impossible, like the ISS.
“This is just my opinion…” “But this is the truth!” Also, why would people be flying all over the place just because they’re able to float? How chaotic does he think pools are? People can float there too.
I must say, he did better than expected. I expected him to show this ISS footage, ignoring everything proving reality and pointing out a pixel flickering for a millisecond, “proving” everything is CGI.
What I've never seen asked of a flat earther is why? Why has mankind been lying for hundreds of years about the Earth being a globe? What is the benefit to it?
@@mouthofspaghetti7817 Anyone (i.e. theists) who gets upset over that or over atheists not giving a shit about their stupid childish shitty comic book has a life of privilege and ease and never did a day of work in their lives.
7:45 talking about how they are perfectly still and then claiming that it's more likely they are on Earth is a hilarious take from Jake. Look at how they are posed, they are not sitting so if this is a greenscreen these people are maintaining a standing squat while standing on the toes and leaning back all without showing any effort or strain. That would require a level of strength that would make Batman envious
His name's fitting! It's gonna be awesome to watch you do a video on the paranormal. Whether it's debunking or proving it, whatever. Always wondered what your take on it would be. Cheers!
Unlike most conspiracy theories, it's not totally ridiculous to believe the Moon landings were faked. Not because the Moon isn't real or solid or space is fake but if the US knew they were going to lose the space race I can imagine them doing such a thing. However, there's enough evidence to convince me it really happened.
The best way to prove to oneself that the moon landing was real is to watch 2001: A Space Odyssey, which is basically the pinnacle of film-making of that time.
He seemed strangely quite concerned that Eytan Stibbe (from Israel) decided to speak a few words in the language of his homeland. Possibly Jake doesn't quite understand the meaning of the word "international".
Wow, that scimandan impression was spot on. 🤣🤣🤣 Could you imagine the rigging nightmare of putting that many people so close together on wire harnesses, likely easier to just go to space and fake faking it.
@@davidlawrence3106 Easier back then, certainly... Cheaper, not even close. Apollo and the pre-req Gemini missions budget could have funded ~1000 movies each with a budget rivaling most standard blockbuster budgets... by todays standards.
I love that he complains they're all perfectly still, while you can see them all shifting and floating, except for a few guys who are clearly more anchored.
I work in film production. Whilst what he says at 4:40 is certainly doable, it is insanely hard to edit in. Especially when people are physically close together. The difficulty is having two people edited to the same location standing in front of each other. As soon as a hand passes over someone or a shadow moves across and the editing process goes from minutes to hours.
every flat earther is a master in vfx and editing. They all understand compositing and modeling, all the lighting and production needed to fake all this, that's why they can all spot it..... Have you even noticed how absolutely no one in film production is a flat earther?
@@DanielRieger That's why flunts/flatulents say that all CGI / vfx/editing is so easy and can be done by individual persons working alone for 3 hours on their home computer. That is what all flatturds say and believe.
"The thing I noticed that no one else noticed is how perfectly still everyone is" 🤦♂ you can literally see them slowly bobbing up and down as he says it
Jake clearly does not understand that they were not doing this to try and convince him, so no prooving needed, and that just because something CAN be done in "post" doesn't proove that it was.
The conspiracy needs paranoia. In order to the FE to work, the whole world needs to be against them. Every space mission needs to be propaganda, every statement by a space agency is there to cover up the "lie". On top of that they are losing relevance, so I bet some of them live in constant pressure to gain followers. That must be stressful
Eh, if you start from his premise, "this was done to fool people" makes sense. You don't debunk flawed arguments by asserting their premise is false; you do it with proof by contradiction: accept, for argument's sake, their premise, then show how the events they're pointing at do not logically flow from their premise. So, _if_ this was made to fool people (Jake amongst them), why do they do it with so many unnecessary techniques? Why would they make the mistakes he's catching, when they have so much money and so many people to quality control it? How are they so flawless that nobody has been able to get up into the sky to take a photo of the flat earth and leak it to the world, nobody has been able to fly a plane and record its flight path as being faster than the Great Circle model of the globe would let it be, etc. etc., but these hugely important propaganda videos (as he believes them to be) are so riddled with flaws that he can spot them. But, importantly, there are no editing or compositing errors AT ALL to find.
It always amazes me how they could believe NASA invests thousands of dollars in complex, hollywood quality cgi work, just to convience a few random idiots on youtube.
Doing this level of CGI would cost a fuckload of cash not even just thousands, having every person's shadow perfectly follow everyone else perfectly. Passing the floating microphone around, people's hair etc all needs to be done single frame by single frame. This would take a full team a long time to be done perfectly and it's insane to think that all of these people would be "in on it" and not a single one of them wants to break the silence and make millions and millions of dollars uncovering this INSANELY LARGE conspiracy theory that's been hush hush (between hundreds of thousands of people) for 50+ years at minimum. In other words, they are quite literally insane to believe this lmao.
Imagine being an astronaut with all the physical and mental qualifications you must need, get to go to the ISS, and then have your very existence questioned because you weren't very animated during your group video. Lol.
If it wasn't prohibitively expensive I would say the best solution to flerfers is to give them a one way trip to the moon so they can see that the Earth is not flat.
They'd find a way to complain or argue that the thing they see is faked in some way. My bet would be they'd say the moon is facing the flat side of the Earth in the perfect angle to look spherical.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo I was thinking the same thing! "Oh! They've just put me in a studio! I'm not allowed outside because then I'll see the camera crew and the light rigs and the green screen...." No one is beyond saving, but most of these numb nuts don't want to believe humans went into space because they feel special having "cracked the code" and "seen the truth".
"This isn't the Moon!" "You must've knocked me unconscious with an injection and then transported me to one of Nasa's sectet underground labs!" It's Australia all over again! 😂😂😂 Also... "It's CGI" Well, if it's cgi... then why has Captain Disillusion, Internet hoax debunker and video/image manipulation expert never covered space videos on his channel??? 🤔🤔🤔 Is he in on it? Or, (crazy I know) is it that he doesn't debunk them... because they are real???!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Oh that's easy mate. It's all CGI. NASA have invested all the money they get and saved by just faking all the much more expensive moon landings and ISS and Mars missions etc and invested it all instead on buying seven billion digital projectiors hidden near to every human on the planet and to a set timetable that you can look up, it shines a CG EYE..( Thanks Creaky), image of the plastic Airfix kit model of the ISS on to the dome. Easy to explain really. Oh..hold on.....lol.
What I don't understand is, you can see the Earth's curvature on a lot of different things...they can't explain that away, so don't they all know deep down that they're wrong?
I heard one flat earther saying that our eyes are curved so the eventual curvature you see with your own eyes is itself an optical illusion. "Believe your eyes" as long as they confirm my fantasy
Another thing that would be hard to fake would be meeting eyelines as perfectly as they are when they glance at each other. Almost like they're looking at a person who is there instead of a stick.
I just love when Flat Earthers debunk stuff that they don't even need to debunk. Like the guy on the left. Why would they film him separately and then put him in there in post production? Jake himself said that the guy doesn't contribute to anything in the video. So why would they even bother to put him in there? And why wouldn't they simply film him with everyone else, why would they film him separately? Ffs Jake you don't have to debunk absolutely everything. The guy's presence in the video doesn't prove whether the Earth is flat or round, it does absolutely nothing. Does Jake just imagine NASA going "Alright guys, we need to make this video seem more like they are in space. Oh I know, let's put in another guy in there and let him just stand in the corner. He's not gonna do anything at all, he'll just stand there. Yeah, CGI department, please put the guy in the scene. Yeeaah wonderful, that'll make them believe our lies". What kind of sense does that make? Also I love the narcissistic "Another thing I noticed that most people probably wouldn't". Yeah Jake, you are so goddamn smart. You are so smart that nobody ever noticed this glaring error, all of the hard working CGI experts creating this lie didn't notice this but you can see through it all, you are the absolute best at spotting errors like this. Give me a break. Jake you do realise you are contradicting yourself? First you criticise the guys in the video saying that they are NOT moving, which proves they are not in space. And then, as soon as one of them moves, a piece of his clothing moves with him, which is pretty much what you were asking for before. But all of a sudden you want the opposite thing now? Now the thing shouldn't move? Now the fact that they ARE moving proves that they are not in space? So which is it? Should they be completely stationary or should they be moving? You can't have both Jake.
@JTLYK IXOYE First of all, what is a "live air pressure". Second of all, who observed space suits under a microscope? And lastly, just what are you talking about? Nothing you said has anything to do with my comment.
Without gravity, once you hook your foot on something, or hold on something, it doesn't take much energy to prevent you from floating away, or 'bouncing around' as he thinks
BECAUSE ZERO GRAVITY, AND 'SPACE' HAS SO MANY WIND CURRENTS, IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO 'SIT STILL'. IT MUST BE LIKE A SMALL HURRICANE INSIDE, RIGHT, JAKE? SPACE MUST BE BUFFETTING THE ISS AROUND LIKE A PING PONG BALL...
Has Jake debunked the ISS? Do you know anyone else that thinks the ISS is fake?
I think Jake has been sniffing a little too much glue....whilst watching Oliver Twist🤣
Hey, If you look closely when the microphone flies over to someone you can see some white bit on the screen! it must be string! The microphone was clearly suspended using string during the recording. This completely disproves every logical and scientifically grounded thing you say in this video, because I noticed, ONE thing.
I was expecting LEO, but it's Jake. That was the only surprise. ;)
Don't worry Dan. You're not the first UA-camr to have some ignorant septic think they can have a go at you for being English. The rest of the US is just lauging at them.
Did u say Jake the Asshole in the start of the vid? hahahaha
Yep, everyone with a brain
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“Durr hurr he’s in civilian clothes they didn’t even give him a jumpsuit”, so what, he’s mocking their supposed incompetent attempt at faking being in space, yet claims they’ll go out of their way to use incredibly sophisticated graphical engineering to fake the entire thing. Got it. Reeeeeal smart
Didnt he notice that 5 of them are in civilian clothes?.
not just graphical. the amount of effort to fake the launch and rendezvous with some blinky thing in space. wouldn't people be easier to control if there weren't space anyway? or is it some thing where "fooled" people don't contribute to mana for god, who doesn't need mana or such?
Yep apparently NASA & the Governments go to Extreme Engineering & Videography Lengths to Hide Reality but apparently all the mistakes are so easy to see
The obvious question is 'why'?
Roskosmos should be asked why their cosmonauts wore everyday clothes during this farewell to the Ax-1 mission. Possibly as a minor slight to the Americans or maybe they simply did not care. The one on the very left is Denis Matveev, by the way.
It's so annoying when flat earthers have this snarky incredulous tone about them as if they have everything figured out when in fact it's just the opposite and they don't even know how clueless they are. This is straight up cringe inducing.
A great example of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
Yeah but it does make you chuckle
@@FreshtexBlackman Another candidate for Top Left 2023?
Y’all globies are hilarious, trying to feel good about yourselves by downplaying or making fun of flat earthers. At the end of the day it’s about free thinking nothing wrong with thinking outside the box. We could be on a fucking football for all I care.
They feel they are “special” people and only other “special” people like them are able to realize how great they are.
This is a common trait of NPD.
"They should be bouncing of each other."
"There is no way all of these people could stay still"
Meanwhile, at the bottom (and all around the interior) you can clearly see the hand holds they hooked their feet into to stay put and not float off.
Exactly!
Or the random items floating in the way that have to be pushed out of shot. Yeah, Jake the Arsehole is right. It is a matter of his opinion. Unfortunately,what he states is NOT the truth, whether he likes it or not, the F**ktard!
The bars for their feet are where they have decided the floor would be. Done to help orientation.
Not floating off, is why they hold their arms if not doing anything with them.
Said Jake: "This is just my opinion, but I know it's the truth!"
I was going to point this out as well. Too bad SMD didn't mention it.
Flat Earhters: "Trust your senses!"
Everyone else: "You can literally see the ISS with your own eyes as it flies infront of the moon."
Flat Earthers :"No, not like that!."
Don't you know the moon Is a hologram and NASA can put any image up there they want. Like a space station flying by.
Any proof, conspiracy theorists have an answer, it's like trying to wrestle jello.
@@C.Mc. Can you see it with a telescope? I thought that since it was going around the Earth so fast you wouldn't be able to focus on it for long enough? Or you'd have to adjust your telescopes viewfinder as you track it?
@@jazzabighits4473 Reds Rhetoric filmed the ISS flying by the moon a few years back.
It was really cool what he did, he just filmed it and released the video, waited for the flat earthers to make a video debunking it.
The night he did it though, he had a second friend film it from another location. Then after the flat earth videos, he releases a video he already made of his video, his friends video, proof of time and location of both videos. Then used geometry to prove how high the ISS was flying and the speed it was flying at.
It all added up to what NASA claims.
@@jazzabighits4473, asks _"Can you see it with a telescope?"_
You can see it with the naked eye, so, yah. You can see it with a telescope. (note: The reverse isn't necessarily true).
_"I thought that since it was going around the Earth so fast you wouldn't be able to focus on it for long enough?"_
That can be handled in two ways: one, you set up the telescope to look where it's going to be then you can watch it cross the telescope's field of view; two, you use a telescope that has motorized controls for movement and you have it track* the movement of the ISS, much like a TV camera will track a race car going around a track.
* The ISS's movement is very regular and predictable, tracking it isn't difficult.
@@fred_derf I knew you could see it with the naked eye, I have before. I just didn't realise that you could see it with a telescope. So you do need to track it or view it as it goes across its normal path? Thanks for the info :)
I love how his entire argument is "it could be fake, therefore it is!" As though the rest of reality simply conforms to whatever his imagination might come up with.
"Go Vote. Especially for the small posts. Why are there still Monkeys when we came from Monkeys,
a real Republican running for Congress recently asked. Whoever you are, go vote and vote against people. Left or Right, you do NOT want someone who does not understand the very basics of Science as a Senator or such."
-Telltale
@@loturzelrestaurant depends on how important a basic understanding of evolution is for that position...
...and what are the other options / are the other candidates any better?
Sounds like the guy just tries to protect his faith. It might not even be his own "fault" he doesn't know better. Maybe he grew up in a deeply religous family and had to visit a christian school/college.
People pushing their beliefs on the next generation, that's what must finally stop.
@@Gorth_the_Ork Yes, pushing the beliefs onto the next generation... remind me, who was world-famous for doing that?
Oh yeah... religion...
...
...And yes, he grew up as a Jehowas Witness, hence why he's not one of the best Atheist-UA-camrs.
And the Evolution-Question about being important to Rule over a Nation? Silly question, c'mon now. It's obiously extremly bad if people in Congress dont have a s-itting clue about the World they live in.
@@Gorth_the_Ork In this day and age not understanding the basics of evolution shows one is capable of shielding oneself from well established facts on grounds of faith or straight stupidity , not what anybody reasonable would want from a legislator supposed to be cogently addressing issues with fact based decision making.
You cannot hope stopping ignoramuses pushing their beliefs on the next generation if you allow ignoramuses politicians to vote laws to do just that ..
Based on that analogy - Jake could be an idiot, therefore he is! Works PERFECTLY here. LOL
Best response from Dan:
Flerf: "That doesn't look natural at all"
Dan: "Well, he's not exactly in a natural environment, is he?"
DEBUNK THIS POUAAAAAHAccording to Astro physics, "spacewalks" are possible only because of the "Vacuum" of space. This creates a "Non-Friction" environment allowing "astronauts" to sustain the maximum velocity of their "outings' ". The mentioned speed of the space station is a mere: 17 150 mph ( 5 miles per second ) - 27 600 km/hr ( 8 km /sec ). This would be completely impossible here on earth at those speeds due to the friction of Air. This being said, add the 66 600 mph of earth's orbit, this again, with environmental friction,would be impossible.
This brings a question to mind, what does your thrusters, thrust against? You need something to push against. Boats and submarines use water, jet engines use air flow, vehicles use the friction of land. You can come up with the astro mathematics with cool cgi theoretical answers and drawings you want, I do not believe in a science that does not use the scientific method. If it can not be experimented and proven, it's called belief. Religion. Not Science
Spare me Newton's "theory" that "rockets" do not require a push surface! Then you would have to explain the 4 miles Smoke Cloud produced when Thrust is engaged at Lift Off after Ignition is confirmed... That to me, is considered quite an "Air Displacement" to propel so much weight high enough... Lies always contradict themselves.
In addition to this complete impossibility, when astronauts let go of the """"iss""""International S... Station, they are no longer going at the maximum velocity of 8 km/s. There is movement, displacement even if no friction. , shouldn't they be 8 km behind after 1 second? And there body snap in two at the end of whatever "harness" they are attached with, head over toes, like a Ragdoll ! 1 second/8km-2seconds/16kms-3 seconds 24km... Before stopping after drag velocity and float in """space""" for eternity...No, instead he just "FLOATS" ( the only place in reality I can relate to that status is, in water) there and makes signs with his hands for you to be amazed. No stars, no satellites, no debris???? 8km/s maximum VELOCITY, without doing the math, cause I don't have the knowledge to do so, THE NUMBER OF G'S on that little human body, would have to be in the 4 digits...
Change my mind using empirical applied science. Physics in this case.
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It's like how many moon hoaxers arguments are basically "You can tell it's fake because it doesn't look like it was filmed on Earth"
But their environment IS natural...it´s just not on earth, that´s the difference. ;)
@Lefroy are you going to provide evidence to back up this claim of NASA having incentives? Or are you going to flerf it up and say something along the lines of "yOu aRe iNdOcTrInAtEd, dO yOuR rEsEaRcH"?
@Lefroy completely just proved my point there, well done. Your personal incredulity and unwillingness to accept the mountains of evidence we have isn't my problem. I'm sure whatever god you believe in won't like that you failed to "convert the devil worshiper" 😂
I for one would like to thank NASA for developing such advanced CGI but request that they let Hollywood have access to their technology and spare us from the unconvincing crap that they give us.
Like Space Shuttles flying in formation on afterburners to Mir
I also love the US centric blind viewpoint that only Hollywood makes films 🙄
@@listerofsmeg884
what are you talking about? America is the only country . . .
@@iaimboti 🤣
LOL
Fun fact:
Once you actually spend the billions of dollars to put the ISS in orbit, you can shoot these space pictures with little effort and even less cost. It's like a fun bonus.
it's like that Stanley Kubrick joke. He was tasked with staging the Moon landing, but seeing as he wanted to get it perfect, he decided to film on location.
@@SMPKarma LoL, that's funny!!!!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Lucian_Andries I can't believe you have never heard that joke. I must watch a LOT more flat Earth stuff than you do. I have heard it a zillion times. That one and also, "If the Earth were truly flat the cats would have already knocked everything off the edge."
@@kathleenr4047 - you've just inadvertently proven a flat earth AND consumerism, all in one comment. The reason why people need to continuously buy things is to replace the stuff that the cats have pushed over the edge.
Now, I'm going to have to make a trek to Antarctica to see if I can locate my car keys.
@@kathleenr4047 I didn't say I never heard it, but it's still very funny. Even funnier than the cats one. :)
The International Space Station is visible from earth, that should be enough to discredit the flat-earthers.
It literally ruined one of my shots of the Southern Lights...
Conspiracy Theorists: 11 people on the ISS? Impossible.
Also Conspiracy Theorists: 11 people together on a single sound stage on earth? Equally impossible. Must have been CGI.
i thought that! like whats his point? why would it have to be CGI if its fake, surely they'd just put 11 people on a stage on earth.. so so funny but scary at the same time that these crazy people are out there
Reality must be extremely "glitchy" in his eyes.
We have had blue screen since 1930s and Who framed Roger rabbit , was first movie that used green screen and thats from 1988 .
Even before blue screen they used single color background (black or white), and had people dressed in same color to move objects , oldest trick in the business .
@@pete_lind Thanks for the history, what is your point?
@@pete_lind
And so what?
NASA isn't a film company.
@@pete_lind Yeah, and....?
@@pete_lind - actual green 'green screens' were used by televisions studios, during the '70's, for weather forecast segments. The first movie to use it was 'The Empire Strikes Back' (1980) for which Richard Edlund won an academy award.
As everyone else is wondering, what exactly is your point?
It’s easy to debunk the space station when all you have to say is “CGI” and “greenscreen”. If you really wanna get scientific about debunking the space station you can pull out the “hairspray and wires” argument
Because they know NOTHING about how CGI works. Dunning-Kruger at its best. To them it's like magic. Show this to Corridor Crew and they would facepalm so hard.
@@Shroty075 True. Add CGI to the list of things they don’t understand haha
Yeah, the fun part is: all of their flat earth models are "CGI" :)
I love the hairspray and wires idea.
It really sheds light on how delusional they are. Like they believe that there are people that every now and then are suspended by wires and have their hair sprayed to appear they are inverted on the sole purpose of "tricking" all of humanity. It's fascinating.
It's also easy to debunk when an earthworm has a higher IQ. Oh and why is it that these retarded a##holes think all English speak like Hugh Grant or full on cockney.
I cannot imagine how many times Jake watched this clip hoping to find a "glitch" to support his predetermined conclusion. Sad really.
Ironically, he probably knows more about how they operate in the ISS than most people having watched so much footage.
Indeed. How much time has he wasted watching hours and hours of ISS footage?
@@Mugdorna Yes, watched 55 minutes of unbroken footage of people and items floating around the ISS unexplained, to find that 5 seconds of footage that he could add a subjective analysis to. Flat earth 101, if you focus on what you can describe in your own world view and ignore everything else, then you are right and everything else is a hoax.
@@Mugdorna Wasted, exactly!! Unless he's monetizing his videos haha
Talk about "confirmation bias"! Watch enough to find something to support your bias.
If they were going to fake a person just standing there...why not give him a crew shirt?
"It's as if they're just standing around on Earth."
But it isn't though, is it? No one appears to actually be standing at all. They all appear to be floating.
And he doesn't really understand anything about "freefall" at all, does he?
"...a pocket of gravity to escape the jumpsuit."
We have jumpsuit sized null-gravity fields?
"Now this is just my opinion...however, it's the truth whether you like it or not."
That wouldn't be an "Opinion" then, would it?
PERSONAL INCREDULITY!!!
So his evidence is “I don’t understand this so it must be fake”
yep, that's THE most popular excuse for ALL conspiracy nuts.
i like to retort, "do you think computers are fake because you don't understand how they work?"
I do enjoy Jake's ongoing struggle against reality. I hope he gets better soon.
I think that's too much to ask..
Yeah, I don't think there's a cure yet 😂
Mental health issues are real. these guys prove it with their thoughts.
I enjoy his struggle too, and as such do not hope he gets better soon.
is this the same guy that claims every single news story is fake, done with actors?
"There is no way they could stay so still!" Yea Jake, you would know what the ISS was like seeing how you have spent soooo much time out in the weightlessness of space.
One reason they stay still is because in zero g (or micro gravity) small movements will cause you to spin and float around, so you either learn to anchor yourself and stay still or you do a great impersonation of bb in a spray can.
He’s spent too much time in the weightlessness inside his head!
If you watch the guy floating in at the start, he gets into a harness to hold himself in place.
They'd also be moving at the same speed as the station, unless an outside force acted on them, so unless they moved or touched something (or something touched them) they'd stay in much the same position.
Exactly! He doesn't believe in space or micro gravity, yet somehow KNOWS FOR A FACT how people and objects would behave in such an environment. Smh
7:25 these guy are doing a hell of a job staying perfectly still.
It's almost as if they're falling at the same rate as each other and their surroundings. with minimal forces acting on them. floating if you will. As if in microgravity per se.
Which minimal forces exactly?
@@InAMinMaths Air currents from life support systems, movement, heat differentials, and the breath of their colleagues. Orbital drift, the moon, the sun, static charges in fabrics and surfaces. Just off the top of my head.
@@InAMinMaths My guess is there are air currrents around the station, (as the greatest factor to movment other then the crew's own movment) not sure if that would be enough to slowly move the mass of a person.
Perhaps, as they do velco themselves to the walls to sleep.
Then again, I hear folk coming back from ISS just drop stuff all the time having gotten used to stuff staying where they put it.
I guess that's what fools Jake and those like him. We're so used to such factors being set the way they are. it's hard to even speculate as to what stays the roughly the same and what changes drastically.
I mean just the fact that, if you are on Earth you can test out relativity by just taking a plane or train and just walking around while the vehicle is in motion. Even though that plane is moving at 400+ mph you can stand perfectly still. You won't be knocked around, I mean you will if there is turbulence or a sudden change in motion, bit not from the relative speed of the vehicle itself like this dude is claiming with the ISS. Hmmmm I wonder how that is.
@@llacy11 I was once on an airplane going into Chicago. Just as we were coming in over the city we hit an exceptionally calm bit of air space. For a few moments it really felt like the plane was stationary and the city sliding past. Really cool.
“That doesn’t look right to me” “I don’t think that’s right” “I don’t think that should happen” “I’d think it’d work this way”
All “I”. I don’t think it works like that, therefore it doesn’t
I can't believe that we are living in the era having actual photos of Earth taken from satellites and other spacecrafts, having so many satellites orbiting Earth in various altitude and direction, having a LIVE footage of Earth from the ISS, having a footage of the ISS ITSELF taken from the ground (with good equipment, of course), yet a guy like this still exists.
Every time I hear a flatearther (or conspiracy theorists in general), I instantly think of a specific line from 'Big Bang Theory'...
"People should have chips implanted in their skulls that explode when they say something stupid."
I find this a quite compelling idea...
Jake: "It's like they're all standing around on Earth".
Also Jake: Forgets about the floating mic and the 4 upside down people.
...and that the people on the lower part of the video are interacting with the people on the top, including passing on the microphone back and forth. This would be really hard to fake with separate takes, especially in a long uncut segment.
@@svavarkjarrval8757 and the hair! The whole way through I’m thinking ‘but look at the lady’s hair!’
And how long have they been upside down.
@@algladyou first one needs to figure out which way is down... ;)
@@Flawaffles Very poor effort. Its obviously every hair tied by a thread to a cloud of micronanodrones (NASA has these) hovering around her head which are then removed by CGI or green screen or something.
So to sum it up, a russian guy is silent, the end of a zipline is rigid and guy from Israel speaks Hebrew. I'm convinced.
I thought for a second that he was going to claim that Eytan Stibbe's Hebrew is fake too.
@@leproghead Or that the translation of what he said was 'Fools! We aren't in space, we were all in a studio at SciManDan's house!'
@@MsArtemis64 😂🤣😂
I think this Jake guy believes Jewish people are in control and are taking over the world. Hence his highlighting of someone speaking in Hebrew. Don't forget that a lot of flat earthers are also Q Anon believers and Trump supporters.
If any flat earther knew how to do simple geometry, they would realize that even if the sun was only 84 miles above their imaginary flat earth it would always be daylight, no sunsets or sunrises. If the sun was 84 mi above a flat earth if you were standing 8,000 mi away from the Sun It would still be 6/10 of a degree above the horizon. Most flat earthers believe the sun is about 4,000 mi above the flat Earth. At that altitude if you were standing 8,000 mi away from the sun it would be 26 and 1/2 degrees above the horizon.
This clearly demonstrates just how ignorant flat earthers are.
The amount of rage this dude harbors towards you. He must be triggered everytime he watches you and realizes he can't beat you. Isn't imitation the greatest form of flattery?
I would guess he is also subbed so he doesn't miss a SciManDan video 😂 "🤬I hate you but I can't wait to watch your videos to complain about them"
Jealousy of accomplished people perhaps Also this gives jake the feeling that he is onto something that no one else is that’s good for the ego If he is just a conman and grifter if could also be good for his ego as he can make some money and trigger people Dans success I think, comes from his unflappable demeanor and politeness which must get jake even angrier
"neck flap"? This guy's never heard the word collar? Does his dog wear a "neck belt"?
CGI artist "Alright. Let's do a good job on this one"
another artist wispers to a co-worker "Sure, but remember to include some anomalies. The sheep that already believe us without this and don't need it won't care but the skeptics, who we want to control or eliminate, will see it and know it's fake so they can say we failed."
Right
you got to love how flat earthers always make "the they" so powerful but then also act like the most lazy secret organization out there.
no quality check, not even double take like they always do it in one take just to get it done.
Hey and let's make sure we film one guy just sitting there for minutes by himself....and then splice him in with all the other people that are....not doing that
Why are you giving him a jumpsuit? Do you want this too be TOO convincing????!
DUDE, stop giving away NASA's secret agenda!! The flat-earthers will see us both commenting on their deception and -- oh crap...! **adopts casual pose.** Well, hi there, flat-earth internetters, ha ha...how YOU doin'?
Can you imagine what would happen if NASA really did pull an April Fool's prank on dumbass flat earthers/space deniers, and intentionally comped in a stage light falling over in the background or something? It would be the greatest April Fool's day in history.
I don't see how he can think that they're sitting still... they're literally bobbing about like floating corks.
And some look quite uncomfortable doing so lol
I read that wrong and had to double check. My dirty mind got me again. Kinda funny tho.
The guy in the center of the front row literally has his right foot wedged under a bar to hold himself in place. 3:08 Those bars are place around the space station for JUST that reason. For the astronauts to either hold onto with their hand, or to hook a foot under to hold themselves in one place.
His reasoning:
"We can fake it, thus it's fake.".
The funny thing, is that even if you try to fake it, you really can’t.
I love how they're faking it, and then they describe the great lengths they went to to fake it.
Hey, since were faking it, instead of getting 10 people all acrossed the world, green screen, then splice it all together.
How about we just grab 10 random people, go over to this warehouse and fake it.
These attempts to "debunk" the ISS crack me up :D
Keep up the good work Dan, love your stuff!
This is fantastic: "the guy on the far left is in civilian clothing, they didn't even give him a jumpsuit". So, a multimillion dollar deception, yet they spare a $10 jumpsuit?
the illuminati work in mysterious ways
Im seeing 4 people not in jump suits.... so are they wearing civilian clothes too?
Um, a lot of them are actually civilians....
@@Forest_Fifer I've figured it out that this was shot last month, the astronaut speaking Hebrew was Eytan Stibbe - he's only the second Israeli astronaut, the first Ilan Ramon was killed in 2003 during the Columbia disaster. The "Axiom-1" privately-funded crew (which Eytan was part of) also included American real estate mogul Larry Connor, Canadian financier Mark Pathy, and veteran Spanish-American astronaut Michael Lopez-Alegria (all but Lopez-Alegria paid $55M apiece for the flight). They went up on April 8 and returned on April 25. You can see the Axiom-1 logo on a couple of the astronauts. That's three civilians.
I don't speak Hebrew, but I suspect part of what Stibbe said was about Ramon - part of his purpose was commemorating him.
Low budget films do a better job.
4:30. No they were not IN different parts of the World when they shot this scene; they were ABOVE different parts of the World when they shot this scene.
When he busted out that line about them being able to stay still _“in a freefall,”_ I lost it. 🤦♂️
👌😂🤣🤦♂️
Ya know Dan, some of these flat earthers are actually doing so much to discredit the flat earth movement, you should start thanking them at the end of your videos as well as your sponsors. Give credit where its due!
Ever wonder why flerfs don't just create their own "fake" space footage just to show hows its done? They always make it seem like they know so much about video editing techniques and how easy it is to fake the footage, so... why don't they? Anyone that thinks editing of this type is easy has never tried it.
If this guy put a little energy into figuring out how we DID get into space... we might be further along as a race.
I say we launch him up there and don't bring him home until he says the earth is round.
Yea my high school music teacher always told us that we only played as well as the worst member in the band. I’m afraid if we were evaluated from an off world entity, the might consider just how dumb and afraid were are able to be.
@@bearlemley I dunno about that. We've had religion with it's giant foot on the neck of critical thinking for centuries... yet, here we are in all our technological glory.
I heard a lot of hypothesis from that guy, I'm still waiting for any proof. Meanwhile I heard a lot of statements showing a total lack of understanding of basic physics and a really worrying tendancy to what looks like some sort of paranoïa.
But as I refuse to believe blindly his stories, I guess this makes me a "sheepple"...
Oh, and the fact that this guy find suspect that a Israeli speaks in his native language says much more about him that he'd probably want us to know.
However I must admit that his feeble attempt of mimicking humility made me genuinly chuckle. So, he got one point for that. "This is just my opinion [...] however it is the truth." Oh man, he's very bad at this. :'D
Jake counts sheeple to help himself get to sleep at night.😉
Jake: "The guy on the left is in civilian clothing, they didn't even give him a jumpsuit"
NASA: "Oh crap, somebody noticed. I told you we should've given him astronaut stuff. Quick, take the video down"
Foiled again by Jake the genius! The American Sherlock Holmes~haha!
but fails to mention that at least 4 others aren't in jump suits. But i guess a polo is equal to a jump suit these days?
you have to wear a jumpsuit because it's SPAAAAAAACE
Go to all that trouble to fake a space station and wardrobe drops a clanger! Doh! Does anyone at NASA watch these videos before they go out? Pfft.
it is hilarious how they swap from NASA are evil geniuses capable of bending reality to completely incompetent to let this obvious mistake get through. It's almost like conspiracy theorists are creating things to fit their narrative
"A little gravity pocket". So.... gravity is real now?
In post editing? This was shot live… But hey, gotta lie to flerf.
It wasn’t a change of crew, it was with Axiom Ax-1 when 4 tourists were on station. Crew-4 launched shortly after Ax-1 returned, followed by Crew-3 return.
presumably that is why they are in civilian clothing then
@@molybdomancer195 no, that’s a cosmonaut, idk who, but he’s wearing civilian clothes because they have those and they’re comfortable
@@molybdomancer195 the four axiom guys actually wear the jumpsuits with "Axiom" written on them :P
I really thought he was going to say something obnoxious about why is Hebrew being spoken on the International Space Station.
INVASION OF THE DALEKS!
No mentions of:
1. The one floating in at the beginning and getting situated with the others "upside-down".
2. The bag that keeps drifting in from their left ... pesky thing, that microgravity stuff!
3. The microphone, as Dan keeps pointing out.
4. The roll of duct tape apparently not sitting on anything ... just hanging out.
5. The fact that NONE of the people who are "upright" are actually standing OR sitting, they're in totally relaxed, bent legged position of FLOATING !!!
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Jake has shown himself up a bit here... when he is mocked by the rest of us, it's not how he says it that we laugh at. It's the ridiculous things he says. For shame Jake...
I call him "Joke"...
Why would anyone go to all the trouble of faking 11 people on the space station AND keep,up the pretence over many years? Why?
Yes that’s what we do in VFX. If we need a bunch of people in a shot we coordinate actors all over the world to be filmed in the same lighting, at the same angle and distance from the same type of lens, making sure they react to timed cues that match the other actors. It really creates the perfect look for “people not really doing much” scenes.
Although I love the highlights of the moron videos, I sometimes have a hard time not bashing my head against a table at the stupidity. Keep up the good work Dan.
That's why you need oven mits and a helmet before you watch these videos, what, are you new here???😉
"That astronaut is just standing in the corner, not doing anything!"
What do you want him to do? Build space for you?
Trow some balls around in a clown costume? 🤣 those balls would really be a pain in the butt
He should be talking really loud and flapping his arms. If you ever see an interview of a group of people, everyone talks and moves around at the same time. That way, they prove that the interview is not fake.
@@thudthud5423 😂
Maybe he want them to juggle small balls, but juggling on the ISS takes at least two people, because, lack of local "gravity".
@@thudthud5423 Perhaps he is not confident speaking English, or perhaps he's an introvert.
Hey Jake, if it is SO easy, I've got a challenge for you: Edit yourself into this video of the ISS! Oh, you can't? 🤣
I mean, to be fair, he asserts that Big Space or whatever has enormous enough piles of money to send deadly patrols around the rim of the disk of the world to ensure NO explorers can possibly find the edge, so they obviously have the big budget bucks to do expensive video editing, while he's a poor normal guy exposing them and definitely doesn't have that kind of money.
What's shocking is that this enormously well-funded organization can't afford better quality control on the videos he's so brilliantly debunking. 9_9
@@segevstormlord3713 - due to NASA budget constraints, the military force that used to guard the South Polar Ring and Ice Wall have been replaced with heavily armed penguins.
Some of the former military force have been rapidly pressed into the ISS acting, production and editing roles. Hence, the 'poor' quality acting, SFX and filmography.
Please forgive me. Was trying to tap into the flerf mindset.
@@maifantasia3650 That makes a scary amount of sense. We should keep an eye, as budgets get tighter, on the actors. If any appear in tuxedoes, we know they're actually the heavily armed penguins being brought in to keep the others in line and in character.
Matter of fact, Dan’s floating mic comments have quite a bit of weight.
By saying that the astronauts are filmed separately, Jake is asserting that the thrower, filmed separately, is able to pass the microphone to the receiver, also filmed separately, all seamlessly!
Not impossible given todays VFX tech, but given the number of “glitches” attributed to NASA footage, it’s little wonder no one addresses it.
I mean... editing himself in the ISS bideo is not hard to do if you Are familiar with Editing programs and greenscreens.
BUT why would he? And why would anyone? Nasa didnt spend billions of dollars to fool humanity. They didnt waste thousands of peoples precious time to fool humanity. Humans would just not allow their already limited lifespan to be wasted in such a grand endeavor. People got better things to do then waste away their entire lives to fool others....unless... this is all real and these people accomplish actual amazing scientific research! Oh shit...
He ignores the floating microphone, that the crews arms very obviously aren't 'hanging heavy' against their bodies or sides as they would on Earth, the little bobbing motion whenever one of them does move and that the skin/flesh on their faces 'sits' differently as it would in gravity.
Also Dan, love the wink after you said personal incredulity, I hope Jake sees it 😁
"There is no way they should all be able to stay still"
Oh FFS! You can see, *on screen,* the middle two guys have their feet hooked under bars that are attached to the floor, and the guy that floated into frame at the beginning, you can see him hook a loop over his leg.
"It caused a pocket of gravity to escape the jumpsuit." How does anyone think that anyone else thinks that? That was never going to be the explanation. So funny.
That's what they think sounding smart is
Exactly. The gravity would be in his pocket. Ffs.
well i know people that goes to the most extreme answer rather then the logical one, so its not that crazy to think people can be that dumb. Its not the information that's wrong its the way of thinking, and its just as bad to brush those people off as being morons because chances are they are still smarter then you but they way they think is nonsense.
@@CruiserDynasty It's literally your way of thinking that determines intelligence. This guy's way of thinking demonstrates his lack of intelligence, and his lack of correct information demonstrates his ignorance.
@@24flyingcats84 Just so you know thats not how intelligence works, so your logic doesn't work since its based on wrong information
I used to work in post production editing. The movies could absolutely make 100% real "fake" footage of astronauts in zero gravity. It could also be done using NO ACTORS AT ALL, this is how good CGI effects are... but it would take a huge budget, and, it would look far better than this fixed lens with crappy lighting... and also who would try to sustain mundane BS goings on of things we can DOOoooo without special effects???
Just like with the moon landing hoax nonsense - actually going to the moon would have been easier (and cheaper) than faking it and keeping the lie a secret for over fifty years. Some people have just decided they will believe absolutely anything, no matter how ridiculous, rather than the simple truth. They think it makes them stand out from the crows - and it does, but not in the way they imagine.
also with all his post-production talk he overlooks this media event was broadcast live! /facepalm
@@tma2001 Well, if there isn't any information in the video that is related to something that can't be predicted you were not be able to tell that it's a live broadcast.
Also, there's NEVER any CGI personnel that come out to say they created these scenes. That would definitely leak at some point given how many people it would take to produce all the various footage.
@@kisslab If all you have is only the video, you are right. But if you follow all the missions and activities related to the ISS, like the cargo launches and launches of astronauts/cosmonauts to the ISS, and you know who's leaving it... You know who's onboard and what they do...
If you're waiting for the planned interview, that occur at the previous given date and time, then you know it is live
“Don’t imagine for a second that all 11 people are together in a studio.”
Okay!
“…or in the ‘fake station.’”
Well they’re not in a “fake station” either, the Space Station is very real. That checks out. lol
8:00 also, they clearly use the handles - you can see it in the guy passing the mike shortly after, he has his feet anchored to the handle in the floor, which is exactly how astronauts stay in place.
All flerfs have anymore is pointing and saying “DURRRRRRRRR!!!”
What an utter fail.
I’m afraid he’s right. They “can” do all that…They “could” do that. But what proof does he have that they “did” do that?
His proof is he doesnt understand things.
None
He said it himself. Personal incredulity. Lol
Actually the woman's hair would be very, very difficult. A Hollywood Studio would rather have her hair in a bun, so it would save the many hours of trouble with each hair strand.
@@physeter_de595 right? Professional studios struggle with hair in the best of conditions
Imagine thinking you can debunk something that is actually real...
Right? It doesn't make any sense to debunk something you can actually see with a simple telescope, it's so funny and sad at the same time.
@@sergibosch7217 you think these people would actually do any real research? Even as simple as looking thru a telescope. I doubt any of them even have a telescope to begin with.
E: the only "research" they do is watching YT videos which validate their conspiracy ideas. They wouldn't be flerfs if they actually explored astronomy in the real world, instead of fantasizing about ridiculous shit based on what they read on the interwebs and a Bronze age collection of myths and legends.
Flat Earthers are like a small group of imbeciles that think grass is fake.
A "fake grass" researcher finds a field (full of grass) walks out into the middle of it and finds a dandelion. He then proceeds to lie down in the middle of the grass and take close up pictures of the dandelion with his smartphone and then post the photos on his "Grass is Fake" website and UA-cam channel.
@@SMPKarma Haha, true. Their "reasearch" is UA-cam videos and conspiracy websites.
When you die, you don't know it. Instead, the pain is felt by people around you. It's the same with stupid people too.
Oh snap. My clothes are creasing when I move. I must be in the glitchy flat earth matrix.
It will never cease to amaze me how some people (mainly Flerfs) insist that simply because they don't understand, or are incapable of grasping something, that it can't be real! And that, rather than educating themselves on the topic, they continue to act as if they're the only ones wise to what's going on while the rest of HUMANITY is somehow being magically duped!
Also, I about lost it at Dan's accent impression! I've never heard him do that before, and it was just priceless!! 🤣🤣
When you are a stupid person but also have severe self-importance, your only conclusion is that if you can't understand something, no one can.
They also see matters of science in a tribalistic way: "it's us versus those science jerks"
The fact that he keeps saying "in post-editing" makes me believe that he watched one of those fun fact videos, about editing an actor into the scene later or something, and just came up with this theory.
As i said before, i have seen it pass over more then i can count on both hands, and I waved every time . but never do they wave back
humans achieving great things:
flat earthers: "it's cgi and greenscreen"
The disrespect to our brave ancestors who really did explore the shape of the world is sad.
The REAL truth is that when humans achieve great things it's done with stolen alien technology, and we want our stuff back!
That's actually very telling:
Those of us who are intelligent and understand the strides we've made in science and technology, versus those who have no clue how things work, barely grasping enough to make claims for things to be fake so they can keep their egos from drying up and blowing away...
Same with the ancient alien types, we couldn't possibly build big 3d triangle.
True.
But to be fair, the technology needed for CGI and green screen is also a great achievement.
"It's just my personal opinion... However it's the truth",
I think this bit of the video explains a lot.
It's amazing they don't believe in space, as they have so much of it between their ears.
I feel that even if I won the USA lotto and spent every penny of 200+ million to spend flat earthers to space to visit the ISS. They would still lie or pretend they were not in space
Nailed it! There is nothing you can do to convince these people. They’re anti science.
“I went to space and let me tell you…it’s faker than fake. Cgi everywhere and stuff”
He's the kind of guy to get himself killed trying to prove that he wasn't really in a space station, and once his death would be public knowledge, every other flat earther would just say that the government killed him for getting to close to the "truth"
Just send them in to space, no stop off at the ISS required. Please. All of them!
Yea, there is nothing you could do to get these guys to believe. They would just think they are on some Rollercoaster type ride with CGI windows, even if you sent them on a spacewalk they would say their visor is just a VR helmet or some shit also. Every single point of evidence you can show them they will just deny and claim fake, it's a sad existence and I do feel sorry for these people who just can't live in reality.
"they should all be struggling to stay still they should be bouncing off walls" and what force would cause them to "struggle" to stay still?
It'S funny, how he couldn't figure out, that they stay that still, because they use the HAndlwebars woth their Feet.
If you slip your Foot under one of these Handlebars, you can pretty much secure your Position.
And that area is often used for Photos, because they have good light and enough handlebars there.
Flat earthers have no understanding of Newton's laws
I sometimes try to get myself in the mind of the “debunker” to attempt an understanding of why they think about things how they do. But the part with the collar is just awful, that is a motion I have seen happen almost identically down here on earth, you can clearly see it getting hung under his jaw line and then popping back into its natural position once it slips free. This dude is desperately grasping for new theories and they appear to be in the space station with him reaching so far for them. Lol 😂 Another good video Dan, and I wish you good luck on that run you mentioned.
I think professor Dave is right. Whatever flavor of conspiracy a person buys into really has nothing to do with the conspiracy itself or much personal connection to what it's regarding. It's about desiring an anti-establishment narrative of some kind and finding others who also don't "just believe everything their told." I don't know if he's right or not for sure, but I have a brother who is conspiracy minded and I definitely see that anti-establishment streak in him. Thankfully he's not a flat earther. But, he is into the whole idiotic sovereign citizen crap and unfortunately he's fallen with the COVID anti-vaxxers. He's not stupid, but he so desperately wants to believe that the establishment is bad that you can make him believe anything as long as you frame it a way that points toward the 1% being evil and corrupt.
@@a5c0 I mean, there ARE plenty of anti-establishment directions to go that actually have basis in fact. There's reason we have religious, scientific, and political debates, and it's not because anybody who disagrees with the "established truth" is a crazy nut. It's because a lot of the time, "established truth" isn't established at all, except in the minds of those who hold the bully pulpit at the moment. It would do the world and these folks a lot of good if they took that skepticism and turned it towards other things that actually affect them. Unfortunately, the flat earthers' demonstrated tendency to decide on a conclusion and then make up facts to fit means they're no more critical thinking than the "sheeple" they deride, who are happy to do the same thing with the "Establishment" theory. (Using their own words, here.)
_"I sometimes try to get myself in the mind of the “debunker” to attempt an understanding of why they think about things how they do."_
In this case it would be for hits. Just like this video incidently do. They both "debunk" each other and they both rely on hits when they do it and none of them actually believe in what they're doing and none of them have debunked anything.
@@a5c0 Just a slight correction, it's "...they're told." not "their told" 'told' doesn't belong but rather they are - with a contraction. You're (not your) welcome..
@@kevinmould6979 haha, nice catch!
They know they can get a pair of binoculars and see it for themselves right?
I’m convinced that many flat earthers are actually just trying to get sent to the ISS in some kind of misguided and hilarious way.
Can't they be sent to the Sun instead?
Thing is we send the smart people up there, not deluded trailer park trash.
@@Lucian_Andries 🤣🤣🤣
7:23 um... The hair?
Anyone can do a floating microphone, but Hollywood had to cut Sandra Bullock's hair real short and it still just flopped around.
The hair in this shot is doing "impossible" stuff.
I thought of ScManDan earlier today, when I heard a news bit about a new record solo circumnavigation of Antarctica. Something that flerfs also claim is impossible, like the ISS.
“This is just my opinion…”
“But this is the truth!”
Also, why would people be flying all over the place just because they’re able to float? How chaotic does he think pools are? People can float there too.
If you look closely you can see that the guy in the middle has his toe hooked into a purpose built toe space as probably have all the others.
I must say, he did better than expected. I expected him to show this ISS footage, ignoring everything proving reality and pointing out a pixel flickering for a millisecond, “proving” everything is CGI.
What I've never seen asked of a flat earther is why? Why has mankind been lying for hundreds of years about the Earth being a globe? What is the benefit to it?
A lot of them are upset because the bible says the Earth is flat.
@@mouthofspaghetti7817 Anyone (i.e. theists) who gets upset over that or over atheists not giving a shit about their stupid childish shitty comic book has a life of privilege and ease and never did a day of work in their lives.
7:45 talking about how they are perfectly still and then claiming that it's more likely they are on Earth is a hilarious take from Jake. Look at how they are posed, they are not sitting so if this is a greenscreen these people are maintaining a standing squat while standing on the toes and leaning back all without showing any effort or strain. That would require a level of strength that would make Batman envious
His name's fitting!
It's gonna be awesome to watch you do a video on the paranormal. Whether it's debunking or proving it, whatever. Always wondered what your take on it would be. Cheers!
His name is the only thing he gets right
Yeah, I was scrolling through here thinking, "So, NO ONE is gonna talk about his name?" It's not often they mark themselves so clearly.
There was a time when I actually thought that maybe they did fake the moon landing 🤔
I no longer give the crazy voice in my head any credit. 😄
Unlike most conspiracy theories, it's not totally ridiculous to believe the Moon landings were faked. Not because the Moon isn't real or solid or space is fake but if the US knew they were going to lose the space race I can imagine them doing such a thing. However, there's enough evidence to convince me it really happened.
The best way to prove to oneself that the moon landing was real is to watch 2001: A Space Odyssey, which is basically the pinnacle of film-making of that time.
If space is a myth why I'm I paid good money to work on satellites?
He seemed strangely quite concerned that Eytan Stibbe (from Israel) decided to speak a few words in the language of his homeland. Possibly Jake doesn't quite understand the meaning of the word "international".
Wow, that scimandan impression was spot on. 🤣🤣🤣
Could you imagine the rigging nightmare of putting that many people so close together on wire harnesses, likely easier to just go to space and fake faking it.
Just as NASA found it was easier and cheaper to actually go to the Moon and produce the fake Moon landing footage there.
@@davidlawrence3106 Easier back then, certainly... Cheaper, not even close.
Apollo and the pre-req Gemini missions budget could have funded ~1000 movies each with a budget rivaling most standard blockbuster budgets... by todays standards.
Not to mention harness hanging syndrome or suspension trauma
I love that he complains they're all perfectly still, while you can see them all shifting and floating, except for a few guys who are clearly more anchored.
I work in film production. Whilst what he says at 4:40 is certainly doable, it is insanely hard to edit in.
Especially when people are physically close together. The difficulty is having two people edited to the same location standing in front of each other. As soon as a hand passes over someone or a shadow moves across and the editing process goes from minutes to hours.
every flat earther is a master in vfx and editing. They all understand compositing and modeling, all the lighting and production needed to fake all this, that's why they can all spot it..... Have you even noticed how absolutely no one in film production is a flat earther?
@@DanielRieger That's why flunts/flatulents say that all CGI / vfx/editing is so easy and can be done by individual persons working alone for 3 hours on their home computer. That is what all flatturds say and believe.
"The thing I noticed that no one else noticed is how perfectly still everyone is" 🤦♂ you can literally see them slowly bobbing up and down as he says it
Just wondering, did they've ever tried to explain the Starlink satellites you can see from earth at night?
I was really relieved when he said "this is my opinion and you don't have to agree with me". That took a lot of weight off my shoulders.
The trouble is he followed that with "...but it's the truth and you can't deny that..." he can't even make his mind up about that.
@@kevinmould6979 You can probably add the definition of opinion to the list of things this guy doesn't understand
Jake clearly does not understand that they were not doing this to try and convince him, so no prooving needed, and that just because something CAN be done in "post" doesn't proove that it was.
The conspiracy needs paranoia. In order to the FE to work, the whole world needs to be against them. Every space mission needs to be propaganda, every statement by a space agency is there to cover up the "lie". On top of that they are losing relevance, so I bet some of them live in constant pressure to gain followers. That must be stressful
Eh, if you start from his premise, "this was done to fool people" makes sense. You don't debunk flawed arguments by asserting their premise is false; you do it with proof by contradiction: accept, for argument's sake, their premise, then show how the events they're pointing at do not logically flow from their premise.
So, _if_ this was made to fool people (Jake amongst them), why do they do it with so many unnecessary techniques? Why would they make the mistakes he's catching, when they have so much money and so many people to quality control it? How are they so flawless that nobody has been able to get up into the sky to take a photo of the flat earth and leak it to the world, nobody has been able to fly a plane and record its flight path as being faster than the Great Circle model of the globe would let it be, etc. etc., but these hugely important propaganda videos (as he believes them to be) are so riddled with flaws that he can spot them. But, importantly, there are no editing or compositing errors AT ALL to find.
love the videos man their thoughts are entertaining and I love how you debunk them 🙂 it's cool
It always amazes me how they could believe NASA invests thousands of dollars in complex, hollywood quality cgi work, just to convience a few random idiots on youtube.
Doing this level of CGI would cost a fuckload of cash not even just thousands, having every person's shadow perfectly follow everyone else perfectly. Passing the floating microphone around, people's hair etc all needs to be done single frame by single frame. This would take a full team a long time to be done perfectly and it's insane to think that all of these people would be "in on it" and not a single one of them wants to break the silence and make millions and millions of dollars uncovering this INSANELY LARGE conspiracy theory that's been hush hush (between hundreds of thousands of people) for 50+ years at minimum.
In other words, they are quite literally insane to believe this lmao.
Imagine being an astronaut with all the physical and mental qualifications you must need, get to go to the ISS, and then have your very existence questioned because you weren't very animated during your group video. Lol.
When it comes to people prone to conspiracy thinking, there's often no way to win. Goalposts are there to be moved.
If it wasn't prohibitively expensive I would say the best solution to flerfers is to give them a one way trip to the moon so they can see that the Earth is not flat.
They'd find a way to complain or argue that the thing they see is faked in some way. My bet would be they'd say the moon is facing the flat side of the Earth in the perfect angle to look spherical.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo Since I specified "one way trip" no, no they won't.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo I was thinking the same thing! "Oh! They've just put me in a studio! I'm not allowed outside because then I'll see the camera crew and the light rigs and the green screen...." No one is beyond saving, but most of these numb nuts don't want to believe humans went into space because they feel special having "cracked the code" and "seen the truth".
"This isn't the Moon!"
"You must've knocked me unconscious with an injection and then transported me to one of Nasa's sectet underground labs!"
It's Australia all over again!
😂😂😂
Also...
"It's CGI"
Well, if it's cgi... then why has Captain Disillusion, Internet hoax debunker and video/image manipulation expert never covered space videos on his channel??? 🤔🤔🤔
Is he in on it?
Or, (crazy I know) is it that he doesn't debunk them... because they are real???!!
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
"It looks spherical because my eyes are spherical"
Don't laugh, that has actually been suggested by a flerfer before now...
OK, if the ISS is fake. What passed over my house as it circled the globe?
I've seen it a few times if I'm out on a clear night. You can't mistake it for anything else.
Oh that's easy mate.
It's all CGI.
NASA have invested all the money they get and saved by just faking all the much more expensive moon landings and ISS and Mars missions etc and invested it all instead on buying seven billion digital projectiors hidden near to every human on the planet and to a set timetable that you can look up, it shines a CG EYE..( Thanks Creaky), image of the plastic Airfix kit model of the ISS on to the dome. Easy to explain really.
Oh..hold on.....lol.
Its a hologram projected onto the dome.
@@chrisclarke6344 right.
@@SHDUStudios have you not seen the space ex rocket bouncing off the dome?
What I don't understand is, you can see the Earth's curvature on a lot of different things...they can't explain that away, so don't they all know deep down that they're wrong?
These morons think that's due to the curvature of the window glass, or even blames it on the shape of their own eyes.
A lot of them do. It's just a grift for them. And others just like trolling, so they pretend to be flat earthers.
I heard one flat earther saying that our eyes are curved so the eventual curvature you see with your own eyes is itself an optical illusion. "Believe your eyes" as long as they confirm my fantasy
People driving in a car remaining motionless to the camera on the dashboard. This guy "Impossible!"
Another thing that would be hard to fake would be meeting eyelines as perfectly as they are when they glance at each other. Almost like they're looking at a person who is there instead of a stick.
I just love when Flat Earthers debunk stuff that they don't even need to debunk. Like the guy on the left. Why would they film him separately and then put him in there in post production? Jake himself said that the guy doesn't contribute to anything in the video. So why would they even bother to put him in there? And why wouldn't they simply film him with everyone else, why would they film him separately? Ffs Jake you don't have to debunk absolutely everything. The guy's presence in the video doesn't prove whether the Earth is flat or round, it does absolutely nothing. Does Jake just imagine NASA going "Alright guys, we need to make this video seem more like they are in space. Oh I know, let's put in another guy in there and let him just stand in the corner. He's not gonna do anything at all, he'll just stand there. Yeah, CGI department, please put the guy in the scene. Yeeaah wonderful, that'll make them believe our lies". What kind of sense does that make?
Also I love the narcissistic "Another thing I noticed that most people probably wouldn't". Yeah Jake, you are so goddamn smart. You are so smart that nobody ever noticed this glaring error, all of the hard working CGI experts creating this lie didn't notice this but you can see through it all, you are the absolute best at spotting errors like this. Give me a break.
Jake you do realise you are contradicting yourself? First you criticise the guys in the video saying that they are NOT moving, which proves they are not in space. And then, as soon as one of them moves, a piece of his clothing moves with him, which is pretty much what you were asking for before. But all of a sudden you want the opposite thing now? Now the thing shouldn't move? Now the fact that they ARE moving proves that they are not in space? So which is it? Should they be completely stationary or should they be moving? You can't have both Jake.
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@JTLYK IXOYE First of all, what is a "live air pressure". Second of all, who observed space suits under a microscope? And lastly, just what are you talking about? Nothing you said has anything to do with my comment.
Got to illogic to flerf.
"The collar debacle." The master of collar physics spots "The glitch". All of space is fake? Confirmed.
Oh please. For the love of sanity.
Lol! Love it!
Without gravity, once you hook your foot on something, or hold on something, it doesn't take much energy to prevent you from floating away, or 'bouncing around' as he thinks
reminds me of being in a pool, one can stay quite still hanging on the edge of the pool side...
Without gravity everything would disintegrate instantly.
BECAUSE ZERO GRAVITY, AND 'SPACE' HAS SO MANY WIND CURRENTS, IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO 'SIT STILL'.
IT MUST BE LIKE A SMALL HURRICANE INSIDE, RIGHT, JAKE?
SPACE MUST BE BUFFETTING THE ISS AROUND LIKE A PING PONG BALL...
"these people could have been theoretically in different parts of the world"
this regarding people in the ISS makes me chuckle.
Except that they are all floating, and trying not to move unnecessarily to avoid equal reactions.