Summon Sky archer, not angel, and class is hermit Bracer emblem/swordsmith medal also works as anti silence and to counter pre-fixed damage attacks such as ragnarok, which otherwise negate the effects of shrine maiden
Thanks for the corrections. I keep mixing that up because of the stupid bonding realm map, where Liana summons angels. As for Bracer / Swordsmith medals. Yeah, fair. If you have that many that you can even give one to your healers. I think a lot of other characters get first priority on those. Honestly speaking, most of my videos admittedly fail entirely to take into account the "whale factor". However, I'll note these down for when / if I revise this video! ^_^
@@Nitroglycerine Initially it would have been angels because in Der Langrisser, Priest classes are able to summon Freyja, an angel-like familiar which is super strong and is immune to all aoes. My guess is they changed it at some point.
For sages hat keep in mind that you need to end the turn of your tank before(!) apllying the sages hat buff. Otherwise you'll lose it before the enemies turn.
And for the love of me, keep in mind when you're in co-op. Make room for the healers to use the Sage Hat, because the game won't let you choose who gets the immunity buff. This is why I only run Gospel build, and never Prayer. PUG is a unreliable little demon.
Hi ! Thank you for a great content Nitro I enjoy watching your other vids too. I have one question on Tiaris acc. tho Would Goddess Tear the best for healer ? Or its situational between crystal ball and Goddess tear ?
haha, there was just too many requests for it. I always felt they were rather simple, so I never bothered. But hey, they share the same gear and everything, so why not combine both in a single video!
I have one Tennyo's Headdress, but who do I use it on? I currently have it on Tiaris with some super trashy semi gear set (she works fine as buffer tho). Since most healers and mages prefer Sage's Hat, I'm not sure who can make best use of it. My Lana has Warlocks Hood (which I might switch out for Odin's Battle Helm but that's very low on priority list), Bozel has Dark Crown (but I recently got Soulstealers so that's going on him whenever I have gold and martial spirits), Listell has Njors Feathered Crows or even Kings Crown and Liana (and other healers) has Sage's Hats.
Well, the +10% HP survivability is nice for PvP. That's really it hahaha. In other words... I have no idea LOL. You might just leave it as a reserve item for now, since it would take 3 Epic martial spirits to level up to 50 anyways...
I would use it on aoe-built units like Shelfaniel, Rachel or Lambda. While Shelfaniel has Shrine Maidens and eventually her unique hat, and Rachel has Angels and decent hp, Lambda lacks any defensive units and has low HP scaling, mostly relying on zealots to survive melee attacks at most.
reduces crit hits chance, but no +10% HP. In my opinion, it's not really worth it. With that said, I have one at level 50, and I will use it on a healer or mage. But given the choice, I think I prefer Tennyo's Robe.
@@Janju76 I think you're underestimating the amount of HP +10% is, especially for arena and battles like eternal temple (where you get an additional HP boost). For PvP, I can see it maybe working to keep healers & mages who have DMG reduction soldiers to keep them alive. But mages like Lana 100% will die due to lack of HP, even if they don't get crit hit. For PvE... in the first place nothing should be able to attack your Liana. And if she is attacked, her shrine maidens will keep her alive. Death's Robe is 100% not an item I would use epic marital spirits to upgrade. If you naturally get 4+ death robes though, yea by all means use it! Ultimately, I think it's situational; I favour +HP% because the most common strategy in PvP is still AOE blasts, rather than single target assassin strikes. But against assassins, yea death robe may be the superior choice.
Im free to play, but i still prefer the demon hunters on my luna and witches on tiaris. Bolt rangers on luna means she is gonna get hit, with move again and ulir's bow you would be better one shoting anything flyer rather than using bolt rangers that only work at level 10
Yea. If it wasn't for the existence of pvp your combo works great. It is one of those suboptimal choices that are tough to choose between. However, I think it is rare that you need the demon hunters to do pve content, whereas bolt rangers really can save you from being 1-shotted in pvp.
@@Nitroglycerine it also means youre solely relying on luna to deal damage since bolt rangers attack doesn't scale high. Coming midgame you should have plenty of damage on luna to ignore demon hunters, but late game that missing damage from demon hunters becomes more noticeable Same applies to flyer luna with pegasi. While pegasi will remain a staple choice for the majority of the game, you will eventually move over to griffon knights when trying to one-shot since pegasi damage will fall off. Its like trying to one-shot with elwin but are using guardians instead of masked maids or bucket heads
@@notoriousthief Agreed about the lack of soldier damage on bow knight Luna towards end game. But in terms of transition, Bolt rangers continues to have use for Tiaris, whereas Demon Hunters has no real use by anyone. Thus, the F2P route SHOULD be bolt rangers rather than Demon Hunters, given the limited amount of SSR training items you have. It doesn't hurt to bring Demon hunters to lv5-7, but stop around there at level 8-10 uses up a lot of SSR materials. In the case of Holy Pegasus vs Griffons, however, I think you actually need both at level 10. That is, you'll need Holy Pegasus if you ever run into a Ledin Tank, and use Griffon Knights vs other tanks. This, admittedly, is theorycrafting, since I don't main Luna. Maybe you can wait until Divine Guard is down and then hammer Ledin with Luna on that turn, or use ATK blessing on Luna to crush it anyways with griffon knights.
If you have that many blue moons to spare, yes. But I think your mages need the level 50 blue moons more than your healers. This is completely one of those "can you even level up that many blue moons" situations, given the dire need for epic martial spirits in general.
Try gut feeling. I feel I'm in mid-game, of common grounds. Your usual 6* Cherie with some workable 4-5 tanks with SSR on only a handful of units. I'd think end-game is when you managed to get the most important SSR equipments lv 50 for your top units, and can do last level stages fairly easily. And then compete in the Langrisser arena rank.
I would say it's actually SSR equipment dependent for the transition. It's really just a smooth process though. Generally speaking, use lv50 SRs to start. Then it's just a gradual transition to SSRs as you farm lv65/70 dragons. And once you have lv50 SSRs for your whole party, you're already in the mid/end-game stage.
Huh. I don't pay much attention to my healers, since they generally don't engage in combat. It's just Sage's hat, some basic healing staff and Crystal Ball. Didn't even spent bond mateiral on them, because I can't really afford the gold, lel. I threw boots on my Tiaris, though. It was pretty fun to see her just don't care about water.
Yep. And until Summit Arena (and the rare world arena match), or you run triple healer like I do sometimes for timeless trial (occasionally need a healer to finish a target), your healers will basically never engage in combat.
I tried running Chris as a combat healer once. But it wasn't very reliable, since I can't control who gets the heal. I wanted to maximize Olver's Staff and Goddess' Left Hand. Does these skills check for HP%, or raw numbers for priority? I take it healing Bonus is applied to offensive healing skills as well. But would they also apply to life stealing effects?
@@TNinja0 Chris generally needs a gift of eternal life for a 2nd heal, but even then she is more of a 2ndary healer. Heal skills are like mage skills - based on your INT. But 1% INT = ~1% heal, so being able to get +20% heal rather than +10% INT lets you heal more. That basically sums it up.
From looking at some "Future Banners" threads, not for months, at least from now to October she won't be around. Which sucks because I still haven't pulled her. Mighta gotten a chance during her recent banner but I didn't know it was coming and spent everything on the Trails Part 1 banner.
You can attempt to pull her in any focus banner where you've already obtained those SSR units, as it will select an SSR that you have not obtained yet. Note that this only affects the first SSR unit you obtain
Yes. So it's really the difference between +20%heal (crystal) or +15% INT (full moon). The big issue of full moon is that many characters want that enchant, so you might not have enough scrolls to roll the enchant values you need.
@@mmuffin97 Chris is quite useful at 6*. I used her even at 4* in my Eternal temple clear, but I did have a Gift of Eternal Life for her. Vargas is a tank. if you use him as your tank, yes? Otherwise, no? Sonya... I use for guild wars, and that's about it.
@@Nitroglycerine the thing about Chris people keeps saying she's quite a good 1 shot hero and they recommend full moon or magic enchants on her, is it wise that way or just pop in a crystal enchant
Crystal ball drops barely at all for me like speed boots for sr accessories. However, luckily enough crystal ball shows up a few times as a reward for gate of fates. I think Tiaris has one as a reward for her gate of fate 7.
Crystal ball was rare for me, until I hit the late game, now they drop quite frequently, still not as high as other accessories, but still quite a lot.
Rachel had one as a prize for her last GoF. I heard Khlose (from the Trails collab) had one as well for her GoF. I did Tiaris and she does not have a crystal ball as a prize.
@@igable82 My bad then for remembering incorrectly. Though the point still stands, that at least it is obtainable if you have the characters (and can't get it otherwise)
Khlose gives you a Crystal Ball, yes. I myself only managed to get one ball from SR pulls. My two other were from Gates of Fates. It's surprisingly rare.
Summon Sky archer, not angel, and class is hermit
Bracer emblem/swordsmith medal also works as anti silence and to counter pre-fixed damage attacks such as ragnarok, which otherwise negate the effects of shrine maiden
Thanks for the corrections.
I keep mixing that up because of the stupid bonding realm map, where Liana summons angels.
As for Bracer / Swordsmith medals. Yeah, fair. If you have that many that you can even give one to your healers. I think a lot of other characters get first priority on those. Honestly speaking, most of my videos admittedly fail entirely to take into account the "whale factor".
However, I'll note these down for when / if I revise this video! ^_^
@@Nitroglycerine Initially it would have been angels because in Der Langrisser, Priest classes are able to summon Freyja, an angel-like familiar which is super strong and is immune to all aoes. My guess is they changed it at some point.
For sages hat keep in mind that you need to end the turn of your tank before(!) apllying the sages hat buff. Otherwise you'll lose it before the enemies turn.
And for the love of me, keep in mind when you're in co-op.
Make room for the healers to use the Sage Hat, because the game won't let you choose who gets the immunity buff.
This is why I only run Gospel build, and never Prayer. PUG is a unreliable little demon.
Hi ! Thank you for a great content Nitro I enjoy watching your other vids too. I have one question on Tiaris acc. tho Would Goddess Tear the best for healer ? Or its situational between crystal ball and Goddess tear ?
thank you Nitro for the guide
hey, finally you made one about not only liana, but also tiaris!
haha, there was just too many requests for it.
I always felt they were rather simple, so I never bothered. But hey, they share the same gear and everything, so why not combine both in a single video!
I have one Tennyo's Headdress, but who do I use it on? I currently have it on Tiaris with some super trashy semi gear set (she works fine as buffer tho). Since most healers and mages prefer Sage's Hat, I'm not sure who can make best use of it. My Lana has Warlocks Hood (which I might switch out for Odin's Battle Helm but that's very low on priority list), Bozel has Dark Crown (but I recently got Soulstealers so that's going on him whenever I have gold and martial spirits), Listell has Njors Feathered Crows or even Kings Crown and Liana (and other healers) has Sage's Hats.
Well, the +10% HP survivability is nice for PvP. That's really it hahaha.
In other words... I have no idea LOL. You might just leave it as a reserve item for now, since it would take 3 Epic martial spirits to level up to 50 anyways...
I would use it on aoe-built units like Shelfaniel, Rachel or Lambda. While Shelfaniel has Shrine Maidens and eventually her unique hat, and Rachel has Angels and decent hp, Lambda lacks any defensive units and has low HP scaling, mostly relying on zealots to survive melee attacks at most.
@UCr_jWJTckeIcb37vp9c5hSg Hmm right, well I don't have Lambda or Shelfaniel but I could use it on Rachel, she's not very much built tho. Ty^^
Hi @Nitroglycerine Does Tiaris Attack Blessing stack with Leon's chivalry or Faction bluff?
Yes. For more details, see:
ua-cam.com/video/WzR6jdzcr-w/v-deo.html
The Blessing Staff give 15% healing and the Angel Staff 20%
Hahaha... it just shows how much I know about SR items in general -_-;
So the +20% and +30% dont stack? Does the bonus from a lvl 40 sage hat stack with faction buff? I guess I'll experiment with it today.
No, it doesn't stack.
For a more complete explanation, see: ua-cam.com/video/WzR6jdzcr-w/v-deo.html
Nitro for PvP have you considered Death Robes? Because i use it on Liana and i think it increases her survivability.
reduces crit hits chance, but no +10% HP.
In my opinion, it's not really worth it.
With that said, I have one at level 50, and I will use it on a healer or mage. But given the choice, I think I prefer Tennyo's Robe.
@@Nitroglycerine I think you should think this through. This armor also reduces chance to be critically hit with AoE Skills.
@@Janju76 I think you're underestimating the amount of HP +10% is, especially for arena and battles like eternal temple (where you get an additional HP boost).
For PvP, I can see it maybe working to keep healers & mages who have DMG reduction soldiers to keep them alive.
But mages like Lana 100% will die due to lack of HP, even if they don't get crit hit. For PvE... in the first place nothing should be able to attack your Liana. And if she is attacked, her shrine maidens will keep her alive.
Death's Robe is 100% not an item I would use epic marital spirits to upgrade. If you naturally get 4+ death robes though, yea by all means use it!
Ultimately, I think it's situational; I favour +HP% because the most common strategy in PvP is still AOE blasts, rather than single target assassin strikes.
But against assassins, yea death robe may be the superior choice.
Im free to play, but i still prefer the demon hunters on my luna and witches on tiaris. Bolt rangers on luna means she is gonna get hit, with move again and ulir's bow you would be better one shoting anything flyer rather than using bolt rangers that only work at level 10
Yea. If it wasn't for the existence of pvp your combo works great. It is one of those suboptimal choices that are tough to choose between.
However, I think it is rare that you need the demon hunters to do pve content, whereas bolt rangers really can save you from being 1-shotted in pvp.
@@Nitroglycerine it also means youre solely relying on luna to deal damage since bolt rangers attack doesn't scale high. Coming midgame you should have plenty of damage on luna to ignore demon hunters, but late game that missing damage from demon hunters becomes more noticeable
Same applies to flyer luna with pegasi. While pegasi will remain a staple choice for the majority of the game, you will eventually move over to griffon knights when trying to one-shot since pegasi damage will fall off.
Its like trying to one-shot with elwin but are using guardians instead of masked maids or bucket heads
@@notoriousthief Agreed about the lack of soldier damage on bow knight Luna towards end game. But in terms of transition, Bolt rangers continues to have use for Tiaris, whereas Demon Hunters has no real use by anyone. Thus, the F2P route SHOULD be bolt rangers rather than Demon Hunters, given the limited amount of SSR training items you have. It doesn't hurt to bring Demon hunters to lv5-7, but stop around there at level 8-10 uses up a lot of SSR materials.
In the case of Holy Pegasus vs Griffons, however, I think you actually need both at level 10. That is, you'll need Holy Pegasus if you ever run into a Ledin Tank, and use Griffon Knights vs other tanks. This, admittedly, is theorycrafting, since I don't main Luna. Maybe you can wait until Divine Guard is down and then hammer Ledin with Luna on that turn, or use ATK blessing on Luna to crush it anyways with griffon knights.
is it okay to run both liana and tiaris with blue moon? i have a olver staff but im not sure if thats a better item than blue moon
If you have that many blue moons to spare, yes.
But I think your mages need the level 50 blue moons more than your healers.
This is completely one of those "can you even level up that many blue moons" situations, given the dire need for epic martial spirits in general.
At what point would you say you enter into late game exactly because I’ve never really been sure when it transitions from mid to late
Try gut feeling.
I feel I'm in mid-game, of common grounds. Your usual 6* Cherie with some workable 4-5 tanks with SSR on only a handful of units.
I'd think end-game is when you managed to get the most important SSR equipments lv 50 for your top units, and can do last level stages fairly easily. And then compete in the Langrisser arena rank.
I would say it's actually SSR equipment dependent for the transition. It's really just a smooth process though.
Generally speaking, use lv50 SRs to start.
Then it's just a gradual transition to SSRs as you farm lv65/70 dragons. And once you have lv50 SSRs for your whole party, you're already in the mid/end-game stage.
Huh. I don't pay much attention to my healers, since they generally don't engage in combat. It's just Sage's hat, some basic healing staff and Crystal Ball. Didn't even spent bond mateiral on them, because I can't really afford the gold, lel.
I threw boots on my Tiaris, though. It was pretty fun to see her just don't care about water.
Yep. And until Summit Arena (and the rare world arena match), or you run triple healer like I do sometimes for timeless trial (occasionally need a healer to finish a target), your healers will basically never engage in combat.
I tried running Chris as a combat healer once. But it wasn't very reliable, since I can't control who gets the heal. I wanted to maximize Olver's Staff and Goddess' Left Hand. Does these skills check for HP%, or raw numbers for priority?
I take it healing Bonus is applied to offensive healing skills as well.
But would they also apply to life stealing effects?
@@TNinja0 Chris generally needs a gift of eternal life for a 2nd heal, but even then she is more of a 2ndary healer.
Heal skills are like mage skills - based on your INT. But 1% INT = ~1% heal, so being able to get +20% heal rather than +10% INT lets you heal more.
That basically sums it up.
Im still missing Tiaris in my team. Is there some Tiaris banner coming up some day?
From looking at some "Future Banners" threads, not for months, at least from now to October she won't be around.
Which sucks because I still haven't pulled her. Mighta gotten a chance during her recent banner but I didn't know it was coming and spent everything on the Trails Part 1 banner.
You can attempt to pull her in any focus banner where you've already obtained those SSR units, as it will select an SSR that you have not obtained yet. Note that this only affects the first SSR unit you obtain
If you're impatient, you could hope for a pity breaker, lel.
IS this pvp liana ?
For tiaris wouldn't her healing increase with INT stats as well
Yes. So it's really the difference between +20%heal (crystal) or +15% INT (full moon). The big issue of full moon is that many characters want that enchant, so you might not have enough scrolls to roll the enchant values you need.
@@Nitroglycerine oh wasn't refering to the enchants, it's abt the equipments hahaa
@@Nitroglycerine oh and is Chris vargas sonya worth upping?
@@mmuffin97 Chris is quite useful at 6*. I used her even at 4* in my Eternal temple clear, but I did have a Gift of Eternal Life for her.
Vargas is a tank. if you use him as your tank, yes? Otherwise, no?
Sonya... I use for guild wars, and that's about it.
@@Nitroglycerine the thing about Chris people keeps saying she's quite a good 1 shot hero and they recommend full moon or magic enchants on her, is it wise that way or just pop in a crystal enchant
cool video, am i the only person who didn't got any cristal ball?? i'm a little bit worry :'(
Crystal ball drops barely at all for me like speed boots for sr accessories.
However, luckily enough crystal ball shows up a few times as a reward for gate of fates. I think Tiaris has one as a reward for her gate of fate 7.
Crystal ball was rare for me, until I hit the late game, now they drop quite frequently, still not as high as other accessories, but still quite a lot.
Rachel had one as a prize for her last GoF. I heard Khlose (from the Trails collab) had one as well for her GoF. I did Tiaris and she does not have a crystal ball as a prize.
@@igable82 My bad then for remembering incorrectly. Though the point still stands, that at least it is obtainable if you have the characters (and can't get it otherwise)
Khlose gives you a Crystal Ball, yes.
I myself only managed to get one ball from SR pulls. My two other were from Gates of Fates. It's surprisingly rare.
lol, all these end game items for healers are rare ssrs...
which is why it's end-game items ^_^;
You will note I haven't transitioned all my healers to the items either!
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