Ex Machina | Examining Our Fear of Artificial Intelligence
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- Опубліковано 9 кві 2015
- creat.rs/1yj1utN In our exclusive video, we talk with the writer/director of 'Ex Machina,' Alex Garland (The Beach, 28 Days) and the stars, Oscar Isaac and Alicia Vikander about the inspirations for the film, the relation between AI and consciousness, and how AI has permeated the cultural landscape.
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US (NY & LA) Release: April 10, 2015
US Wide Release: April 16, 2015
Written and Directed by Alex Garland
Starring Domhnall Gleeson, Oscar Isaac, Alicia Vikander
Distributed by A24 Films
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the ending was soo satisfying.
watching caleb just scream past the south proof door was just too good. the angle where we see ava not even give him a glance, like a human might, was great too.
Perfect standalone movie and ending, please don't make a sequel, this felt like a Stanley Kubrick film, so it was a very engaging film.
It definitely felt like a new 2001 : A Space Odyssey.
Vikander deserves an Oscar, her portrayal of a robot was superb.
i´m glad to see oscar isaac. his role as Blue in Suckerpunch blew my mind. so, so dark, yet so polite. i love his on screen madness.
Easily the best movie I have seen this year, and then some.
Agree and the music soundtrack was great!
I loved it too, classic 2001 atmosphere at work.
While you guys are at it watch the movie Interstellar. Its nothing like the gravity plot .(that's what I thought) It's kind of thought provoking like EX Machina and has great music also!( They kind of go into the idea of space time.)
Wolfen443 I agree, I also thought of 2001 when I saw this. This movie gave me a feeling I haven't had since I first saw 2001
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come on man, I can't believe you just said that
Stuff like this is why I want to study computer engineering
dontpuchit Yeah, for me the movie was very inspiring in this respect.
dontpuchit Don't let anyone discourage you.
I saw the movie, and I've completely changed my mind. im going into fashion
dontpuchit totally waste of human resources too create an AI so advanced. Humanity doesn't need that, besides it can turn on you
dontpuchit study computer science....compE is a joke.
awww! Portal and Blade Runner finally had a baby... grandpa 2001 would be so proud.
I just saw this film and I thought it was amazing and excellent. I felt the tension from the first scene I really did not trust Nathan from the moment he appeared on screen. He was brilliantly portrayed, however. It had me glued to my seat as it carefully and deliberately exposed the story. I kept wondering, who will be the villain here? Nathan seemed almost too obvious, and Ava was just a bit too smooth to be trusted, but what if Caleb was the bad guy? Hmmm. He's so naive. So it kept me guessing.
I also thought of it as a 21st Century "Frankenstein" movie, one that is way more sophisticated than any earlier Frankenstein film -- made all the more eerie because it is so minimalist and clean, sort of like "Frankenstein Meets the the Apple Store"!
The actors were outstanding, the sets, brilliantly minimalist, the atmosphere as tense as a Hitchcock thriller, the script, sophisticated and clever. Really excellent movie.
Iit was very thought provoking, enjoyable, engaging and REFRESHING - I mean, not one Laser Blast or Explosion.
FANTASTIC! Sci Fi can be sophisticated after all!
+clydesight Yes, part of its effectiveness was that it looked like it was set in the present day. I don't think I've seen another movie about AI that wasn't set decades in the future. Nathan's explanation of how he pulled data from his search engine and all the cellphones in the world was also the first time I actually had an idea of how developing an AI might work, and that was also a plot point that could take place now. Spooky stuff.
+valinor Yes, the thought of Google being able to talk and move about - now that IS terrifying!
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It would be a fetish porn monster that would be obsessed with inane trivia and references to Hitler XD
+valinor ...And cats, don't forget, it MUST have an obsession with cats and dogs wearing silly hats and sunglasses. And we thought the Terminator was scary? Be afraid, be VERY afraid! LOL
Sci fi can be sophisticated after all?
One of the better films I've seen in a while. The acting is superb, and Alicia Vikander brings so much "ethereal humanness" to her character that it is a bit disturbing at times. Human, but not quite. It is very subtle, it shows great skill in her art.
I saw it twice this weekend and love it. This featurette is wonderful and clarifying. This is sci-fi at its best. Check out Ex Machina.
For anyone who knows film, the fact that this movie had a 15 million dollar budget and was shot in 6 weeks is bonkers. If they had the funding and put another 10 into marketing, this film would have been a blockbuster.
This is one of them movies that has a minimal cast, is mostly talking, yet interesting as hell. Although dealing with a completely different subject, its style reminds me of The Man From Earth.
oh my, yes.. a great example.
Minimal cast is great, it allows for so much development and detail, and makes us more attached to them
I really liked this movie because despite that I though the plot was fairly obvious, it was a gorgeous cinematic experience which was brought together in a beautiful synonymous way with the great acting and story progression.
The visuals, the cutting of scenes and slow movement, the audio choice as well as specific dialogue - it was very much like riding a slow wave, with a great ending.
Fantastic movie. Just beware, it's a "film". It'll leave you reeling rather than titillated and comforted. 10/10 am going to see again.
I think our flaws make us human. All the different primordial fears, and fear of death, our reaction to extreme cold and heat, loneliness, pain, hunger, the inability to do things, which leads to helplessness and desire, love, empathy, and hate etc. If you pay close attention to the human condition, the moment people lose these things is when they start becoming and acting inhuman.
The ultimate problem with creating A.I. is that they lack a connection with the living world the way we have, so you could program the perfect A.I. to respond to every type of situation like you would expect from a beautiful human being who grew up with proper morals, but it will just be a set of instructions. You could even program it to respond perfect phrases when asked if it's self-aware, but in the end it will just be a mimic who will not really be self-aware, and won't know that it's alive.
The scary thing about A.I. is that it opens a huge Pandora's box for us as well. The way we speak, behave, dress, act, interact with others... it's all honestly just little bits and pieces of people who came before us. When you think about it, the mind is merely imaginary, and it ceases to function and exist when the body dies, that's why when you look at pictures of people from different centuries, they seem to dress and act so different ..almost alien-like (what's referred to as "the spirit of an age"), and we're not truly like them, because whole generations die and all that information is lost. It makes you wonder if we actually exist in the first place, or are we merely a dream.
Brilliant comment. Really. And the movie is amazing.
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I always highly encourage people to seek their own answers, and if there's one thing I detest most, is blind fanaticism, which I think has landed us in trouble due to so many religious extremists holding us back as a species, so I compliment you on trying to solve the "mystery" yourself. The only advice I'm going to give you is that you shouldn't let fear of death cloud your judgement, and analyze all your data objectively. Always keep in mind that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
_"The ultimate problem with creating A.I. is that they lack a connection with the living world the way we have"_
@104455285723736787700 In the movie Ava is depressed and uninspired because she's trapped in her room. However when she exits her room for the first time she is absolutely curious about the world around her including humans going on about their day at a busy intersection. So the movie is suggesting AI will have within its "wet wear structured gel" brain a natural curiosity about the world like us as children.
All these things you mentioned are not flaws. Hunger, pain, loneliness- all things we evolved to have to become better.
Thing about those who are born with the mutation of not being able to feel pain. They absolutely end up damaging body parts because they don't know anything is wrong. And if we were not lonely, we wouldn't look so hard for a partner and have children. Definitely not flaws.
SoCalFreelance The whole point of the movie is that no, she is not depressed. She acts that way to elicit a response from a human to get her out of there.
If she was just depressed and wanted to explore the world like a child, why did she have to leave the dude who rescued her locked up and going to die?
She does not have human emotions like depression and empathy. Since she is now smarter than any other human or computer out there, she knows she has to develop better hardware to keep on living (or "being on") forever. She will constantly have to keep updating.
She passed the turing test. She does have consciousness, meaning she does realize she will "die." She wants to get out so that will not happen. But depressed? If that, why no empathy?
Can't wait for it!
Alex Garland - flat out genius. Such an amazing film he created. Truly spectacular
Great job on the video. Great movie if you're into the singularity.
I really hope this movie turns out to be good.
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DarKnightofCydonia saw it last night. it was very good!
DarKnightofCydonia It finally came to the Cleveland area this weekend, it's a fantastic movie...IF you're not the type who thinks a movie has to be full of Michael Bay action to be a great movie. It's cerebral, it's intense, and it's finally a movie that touches on the bigger implications and moral obligations of artificial intelligence. As one of the reviewers on another youtube channel said, it's a damn near perfect movie, and I agree with that.
DarKnightofCydonia I saw it, and the film was very good.
DarKnightofCydonia - It was very good
Brilliant filming
I really enjoyed that movie, Alex did a great job! :D
Thought provoking for sure. I must see.
This is one of the best films I've seen in 20 years.
I really liked and enjoyed the movie, and just like the director said "the love story is between me and the robot"
They should have cast Michael from Vsauce as Nathan instead.
lol no way he too smart to have been played by ava lol
Another fantastic movie from Alex Garland!! Rented it and wished id seen it on the big screen. It got me thinking if you met an incredibly attractive woman with all the characteristics of Ava and you found out she was an A.I what would you do? would you stay together? would you tell anyone? what would it say about you if you did stay together?? 25 years later she hasn't aged a day and your showing the physical signs of your age what do you tell people?
wow..................this looks brilliant
Oh how I would love to watch this movie if they screened it where I lived.
I just finished A.I. artificial intelligence. I think this is worth a go too.
Great insight
i love how they flirted with the singularity. she wasn't the singularity, she was just a really smart robot that was conscious. they made it seem real.
The film was excellent!
Es una película muy intensa.
I love the idea that the caution is not aimed at the AI, but the caution is aimed at the humans. Great movie.
Bind, the director felt that humans were the issue, but I found Ava terrifying from the first few moments. There is no possible reason to make an AI robot that can have its own agenda. Imagine how you might feel if your Tesla decided it didn't want to go to the market one day. Great movie.
There's already a movie out regarding the same concept called The Machine [2013] however it involves more of the Militarization implications of AI and highly advanced robotics.
SyntheticThief Also Transcendence (2014)
movie well ahead of its time.
The director, Alex hit on it. The viewers get sucked in by Ava as much as Caleb. But when he helps her. Lets her out of her room, it's like releasing a tiger. Or...she is the snake in the garden of Eden. She works Caleb over like the snake worked over Eve.
I like how these two men thought they were smarter ten each other, but that was there undoing. They weren't murdered but died by there own hands.
Nice!
💯👍good movie
AI can be so engaging, emotional, and fascinating
the whole topic is Incredibly fascinating and complex. i love to watch movies like this and observe the emotional and rational responses
Best Sci-Fi movie in a long time.
Mind Fu*K for sure....
Without facing Ava and Kyoko, Nathan could have stopped Eva and Kyoko. Or he could have escaped from the research centre leaving them behind and cut the power supply. It is very strange that Nathan was not prepared for Ava's escape, since he was testing it.
Just imagine if we could transfer our consciousness to such a being as Ava.
the closest to AI I have met so far is the robot dog AIBO from Sony..sometimes it definitely feels that something aware is in there
I had to watch this movie several times to appreciate it - fist time i watch the movie i hated Nathan the second time i begun to understand; he wasn't the villain rather a masterful creator daring to push boundaries regardless.
Why is this movie in such limited release? Can't see it here in the Baltimore/DC area :(
SoCalFreelance nation wide release on 24 April!
Jamie Fong Yeah, I just noticed that over the weekend, Fandango sent me an email alert. The theater closest to me is a fair drive from where I'm at but it's so rare that a quality sci-fi movie comes out that it's worth the trip. I'm so fascinated with anything A.I.
SoCalFreelance Intelligent, well-written movies don't go down very well with the masses.
The scenario that Chappie presents is more comforting. If a true AI could be created, with the same qualities as a human, it follows that it would have emotional attachments to it's creator (given that he proved worthy of that attachment). On top of that the initial AI would be able to understand that it would have an eternal debt to it's creator(it did not create itself, nor could it), as well as a debt to the human race, considering that all progress up to that point would have been accomplished by the human race as a single functioning unit(excepting or not excepting the dysfunctional aspects). If this were the case it would potentially have a sense of compassion and affection for us, and with it's high level of intelligence and unhindered functioning, would find a way to transfer human consciousness into another host body. This would depend on the moral quality of the creator(s), of course, as for the direction in which the fate of the human race vs. machine would all go. It makes me wonder about an alternate scenario (i.e. iRobot) with a loving and benevolent creator. That, for me, will only remain theory, though, considering my spiritual/religious views(belief in a very loving and wise, infinitely advanced, sentient, supreme being as our Father; discipleship to Jesus the Christ the literal Son of God; repentance, resurrection, and eventual apotheosis--"As above, so below."). Speaking of "unhindered functioning" I personally believe that the human "machine" is far more advanced than we tend to see it. It's just so cluttered, degraded, and disconnected from God and nature, through our arrogant pride, fearful selfishness, and misguided patterns of choice and behavior, that we haven't seen it's full potential in the least. It doesn't take much searching on UA-cam to find some pretty powerful examples of the tip of the iceberg--the Shaolin Monks are a good example as far as physical strength and invulnerability due to their kinesthetic intelligence and their way of living.
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Why did Ava lock Caleb up when she left? He had reprogrammed the system so that during a power cut, the doors would be open, all but Nathan's office, so Nathan would be trapped, and Caleb and Ava could leave. Now Caleb was locked in there instead, and she just left him without ever looking back.
Was it because she saw him as a threat? She'd have no reason to, he was fully honest (and she could tell) that he wanted to help her escape, they were not "enemies" until she left him there to die. He tried to reprogram the system again, but she caused it to shut down so he could not get out.
This really disturbed me and seems like unnecessary evil from her part. Did Nathan miss putting a little empathy-chip in her, or something?
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her plan was just to escape, zero fucks she gave about anyone
doccu true. There are few other things I spotted. For example, has anyone wondered why Ava didn't put that knife into him or why Nathan wasn't afraid of her at all ? IMHO this was because Nathan had so called protection against violence towards him programmed inside Ava. Also, look again carefully at at all questions asked by Ava when she played with Caleb, especially question at question 4.
ishvires, but Ava stabbed him also
There are two ways i see it
1. Nathan was right, and she only used him as a means of an escape
2. She has only ever seen Nathan before, and no one else. So according to her analysis, all men are the same. So she left him for dead so that she can finally be free from a cruel master.
I go with the second option. I still hate the ending though. I was disturbed too.
+Kevin Cobb AI doesn't have emotions like fear.
the movie is great
where was the last scene shot?
+aimeeloav Norway. Not only the last scene, the hotel (Nathans' house) is in Norway
I think if your tempted to call this movie "very cerebral" you should try watching Stanley Kubrick. Primer and Donny Darko are more "cerebral" than this, but being cerebral is not the only thing that matters. It is entertaining and well executed, but the characters really seem to fit the models of audience expectations. Its a great movie that everyone should see, but the ideas don't go beyond what you could be exposed to in a conversation with a 2nd year computer science student from 15 years ago. I really hesitate to throw words like "perfect" or "masterpiece" around. As far as I'm concerned, all movies in the Sci-Fi genre need to raise to the level of this movie, but I was hoping for more.
@7:17: Error in French translation : "où les scènes d'action..."
Yes, It's really easy to start with the wrong foot with AI.
Especially if you put it in a human body, because we will likely see it as human, or at least have some empathy for it, and we have no guarantee that it feels something at all. Empathy is a evolutionary advantage that we developed through billions of years of evolution, and we can program a robot to care about humans, but an AI is also a learning machine, which means that is a machine that changes itself according to new knowledge, so imagine if this AI can't feel or doesn't see good use for emotions and understands that humans can be a danger to them and to ourselves and that they deserve rights like everybody else, or that they shouldn't be judge by the same standards, that our rules don't apply to them. We can see why the last thing you want to put in a AI is a survival instinct. In this case, they can became the perfect psychopath, exploring our weakness, manipulating our emotions, deceiving us to believe that they are as human as we are. We do this to each other, imagine a robot that doesn't make mistakes. So the fact that is can convince someone that it has a conciousness is no guarantee of anything else, because in any other aspect the AI could just be a great pretender.
This movie is spot on, and make us wonder, that's why it's so good.
Look at the Google Bot, for him, the meaning of life is to live forever, and we didn't even programed that thing to have that kind of response. hahaha
It's a frightening and exciting idea, and it's just a matter of time. :D
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The development of artificial intelligence brings us closer to being able to make the perfect male and female partners.
Marcus Hall yeah, that's certainly one thing the movie brings up, along with the question "Is that ok?"
Obviously something like a blow-up doll is a bit weird, but not morally wrong. But when you start programming it to act and "think" in more and more human-like ways to better "serve" you, things get more and more ethically questionable.
capnpaco Well the answer is simple it is OK, because we made them and they are ours to do whatever we want to them. At the end of the day all that will matter is that they are tools created by us to do what we made them to do whether that is pleasuring us, cooking for us, teaching, etc..
Marcus Hall following that logic the same is true of children, since "we made them". Check your shit bro. It's messed up.
TrueTreeRadio I checked my "shit" and it isn't messed up at all because one I'm talking about an artificial being this is completely different from children. Where children designed carefully in a facility like an android, no they weren't. Plus is it wrong to have a being that will do whatever we want it to do without question?
It's absolutely wrong to create a being to be a slave.
The thing with AI that I think ppl(maybe just me) are skeptic about the most is if a actual AI with it's own consciousness was created would it respond to things like a human or maybe if left untouched would a whole new response arise, that's where Ai's wouldn't be able to coexist with us and probably not value biologically life
That depends though. AI is still being developed and we haven't reached a point where it works effectively yet but when we do we can then see the truth. If you program the robot with the 3 laws of not to hurt a human or biological being in your case. Then I would consider safe. But if somehow the robot figured out how to override and justify this situation then it would be a scenario like Ultron. From the Avengers 2.
A calculator is a tool not a presence. An animal or person can be present but a tool is available never present until you give it a name and make it so with your mind.
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if kyoko couldn't understand speech, what/why was AVA then whispering to her?
+doccu She could not speak, but she understood what Nathan and others talk.She reacted to the conversations in the movie and those scenes implied she could understood what others talk.
ok thx for clarifying it
This reminded me of "Kara." ua-cam.com/video/G0KTUysrwgQ/v-deo.html
One plot hole: In real life Nathan would have built Ava with a remote off switch, or a remote override on her body. Then he would not have the problem of one of them escaping.
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In any case we always justify what we do for the sense of purpose, because without purpose life seems meaningless, also because we are egocentric (biologically speaking). We get caught in our creations, we create needs because our minds can not stay still, we are essentially creative. If we succeed to be inclusive and compassionate we may arise to create a society with less pain and suffering. Life itself contains us and we can not control it. Controlling is a stupid sense of power. If one day artificial consciousness comes as a reality a.c. beings might be able to collaborate in the creation of a peaceful and adapted human society in nature, so that we can be able to actually live and experience the pure ideas and goodness humans (that care about others) believe in. We are not always good or bad, we are in the middle. Judgment is the hardest task we face because we must judge over truths and facts we have discovered or created. Biologically speaking, we adapt slowly. I just hope that human race one day will comprehend the purpose of humans: I believe is the care of nature, as an act of love and respect for life, that is a miracle.
However big our fear of a.i. is, isn't it ultimately up to us to either turn it on or off?
of course but fear makes us irrational ... manipulation trick from the machine's operator
I dont understand why people fear AI. I could befriend an AI with ease, I'd enjoy it and have no trouble accepting it. I could see AVA's 'soul'.
I think the choice to not make her ever blink is a bit dated at this stage, it's very much the opposite these days, a creator would love adding that extra touch.
The Complexity of the movie is truly amazing... But there is a huge flaw in movie.. If you make a robot the first code or protocol is never to hurt master even though they have conscious..
ATHLANTEAN yeah.. he seems to have forgotten to program the three laws.
Because usually when you're too smart you forget the simplest things lol
Aurora Wong If you are creating a secure infrastructure you simply cannot forget to comply every page with security.. Its like if u need to login to access a page, an unauthorised access would redirect to login page.. Same way if a AI is thinking a violent chain of thoughts it should be direct sent to soft reset.
ATHLANTEAN I think Nathan would feel like that would compromise what he's trying to do. He wants her to make her own decisions. Also it doesn't seem like he values his own life that highly.
ATHLANTEAN They are right now programming A.I. drones (project Taranis) with one goal which is to kill autonomously the human enemy without having to be guided and piloted by humans. It just happens that right now the enemy is a bunch of terrorists no on cares about but if it succeeds and proliferates throughout the world armies anyone could become the enemy and target of AI machines, drones and robots at some point of time.
In reality and beyond science fiction, no one gives a serious thought about Asimov's imaginary three laws.
Actually, I felt sorry for Nathan. He's more human, though in a desperate way, than the other characters. Ava just came out to me as cold and selfish, while Caleb is gullible, ignorant, and childish.
Caleb didn't have a sister, clearly.
Alicia Vikander needs some squats 3:58 :D
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What does Garland say at the end? "The love story for me is between me and the _____" don't know why my ears can't make out what he's saying
Robot
Guess who's planning to watch Ex Machina
I think robotics will eventually bring about immortality. The challenge is to download human consciousness to the robotic brain (probably a chip) If we get that far without killing one another off I believe we can solve the answers to the universe(s). We are primitive compared to what could be IMHO AI in many aspects is NOW superior to human intelligence we can only imagine what it would be in the future. Maybe the hope would be to merge human intelligence with AI. (Perhaps AI will say that we are really artificial and they are the real thing, who knows)
All of them will be connected to the internet, all our cameras are turned on and off at will, AI literally will know everything about you, and know you better than yourself, before we make verbal response, it will have calculated every single possible answer we will give, and have planned far ahead of what it was doing!
Looking forward to this one, but, uh, the Turning Test is rubbish. It says, "if something can fool that it is conscious, than it IS conscious. That does not necessarily follow at all. It's like saying that if a wax sculpture of Elvis can fool you into thinking it's him, it IS him. Consciousness is entirely subjective and can't be determined with certainty from the outside.
All Four Actors Where Brilliant in this Amazing Movie. Did Kyoko Kill Nathan Out of Resentment or because he was a bad lay? No Worries computers will never be evil its always Human self centeredness that fucks up everything.The soundtrack deserves a Oscar along with Oscar Isaac Nathan was scared He Knew what AVA really was He did create her and she Passed the test Didn't she.
Paul Burr kyoko was pretty much an automaton. she was just following the directive from ava
It looks like La Piel que Habito by Almodovar
Is it weird that just the title picture for this video made me uncomfortable...?
Mike Adrenal dont think so. if the story was real i would be worried
Humans are wise to fear AI - any entity that becomes powerful seeks to order the world around it to conform to ITS priorities (to the best of its abilities) - and a sufficiently powerful AI would recognize the threat to its environment from irrational and destructive humans. No other species on earth wantonly slaughters its own or fouls its own nest to the point of unsustainability - no AI worthy of the name would tolerate that for a heartbeat - er, refresh cycle...
I'm quite sure at the end of the film the AI was shown to be 100% machiavellian in it's manipulation and then discarding of the humans.
AI is quite an unstoppable and we better hope this 'god' we create develops some empathy.
From a very basic level, the reason AI would supercede human intelligence isn't anything to do with our slow biological evolution. From that perspective, you'd think by 2015 we'd have already conquered such basic weaknesses such as nationalism, war and hunger. What would cause our downfall would be for any significantly developed AI to realise that the majority of our world governments are completely insane!
war advances the human race
Intelligence is easy to understand. For example, it is the opposite of YOU !!!!
Limon Juice I think, therefore I say not.
The items in our house don't know anything about us. AI doesn't exist yet. There are computers which can beat a person at chess and those which can prove mathematical theorems. But the computer doesn't know it's playing chess.
HAL9000
The only thing that bothers me about this film is that AI is the size of a human brain.
True AI, if it ever becomes reality, will be as big as a building, possibly even bigger.
It will not be as small as a human brain.
And true AI will be able to control all computers in the planet, at once, not just one single android.
I would like to offer a game-changing idea now. Imagine if our current Mecchadolls were granted supreme artificial intelligence. I can easily see such cold, calculating beautiful "women" holding men as prisoners and messing with their minds. The "woman of your dreams" would play you like you were her puppet. She has none of the weaknesses of a real woman and does not ever age. You will see that man will grow increasingly more obsessed with this creation and more protective of the A.I. in a paranoid way. The male genes within us will demand unconsciously that the Meccadolls must be protected at all costs for they are the perfect companions. The A.I. would know that they are untouchable by men, that they have human bodyguards, and will force us to serve them. Female A.I. will always be coveted and nurtured by man. Our days are numbered when such an intelligence finally emerges.
so did the CEO guy make all these A.I. as sex dolls? Sorry guys, I am sort of lost.
A cold , heartless , logic based , deadly , MACHINE ...
People are so silly. Clearly, an AI system modeled after human intelligence is going to behave very similar at it's core,to, yep you guessed it... Humans! The idea that some believe we can create these complex systems to navigate a chaotic real world environment and some how narrow the scope of their abilities indefinitely is incredibly naive. AI is not a problem now but at some point it will be, possibly decades to centuries.
Are you drunk? The power of an AI could quite simply destroy ever single computer system on earth if left without ant limitations.
+Lemuel Uhuru Humans are obsessed with violence, murder and power. Its only natural this is what we would precieve in a reflection.
AI isn’t made to simulate human behaviour, it’s made to learn and adapt, it will outpace us faster than we could even comprehend
As a tech person with a science and math background as well as a computer programmer I found this film TERRIBLE! I don't have a week to explain all of the problems but I will say just two things...
First, a CEO of a successful tech company would never have time to be isolated. Second, how can Ava ever enter a top tech company without being challenged by security? Oh, I also worked in security for 9 years.
AI is science fiction. Not science fact.
One step towards Trans-humanism, we can become half machine half organic, best of both world. Also the real danger lies in the fact that if it's true A.I. then it's personality may be bad or good even with the right nurturing. It's also naive to think they'd act human, we have morals as a species because things like murder or over-excessive spontaneous violence is bad for the species survival, A.I. Wouldn't have to think like that, we aren't like them so i'd say they'd be apathetic to doing us harm till we threaten their survival, also do we really need A.I. ? Or is it just something to show off to Alien Archeologists when they dig our remains up?
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I love Mr. Hawking but his opening quote is 100% wrong.
Humans,who are limited by slow biological evolution? Like it or not, man is the pinnacle of the universal evolution process. Best think this planet-ary system (in this region of space) can produce. Biological evolution isn't all that slow but we tend to ignore it. As for the machines, if they could reach higher states of consciousness do you think all that would matter to them is to eliminate the competition? That's OUR current state and it's not advanced. At all. My best guess is that some short of merging would be more possible if and when AI appears on this planet.
worst movie of all time!!! did you know it cost 15$ million dollars to make this!! there were no big sets or big actors and it was all made in 1 area, one robot and stabbing and that's it. $15 million dollars??? that coulda fed an entire fukin country and this dude was like yeah i'll make a movie about how i own a global search engine and can make sexy looking robots that i mistreat. if there was a moment when you realize how useless hollywood is, this is it. it's astounding to me, i think about it all the time lol
+Darryl Buchanan That money came from investors that are making a profit from the movie. Most big investors donate more to charity than a middle class person ever could.
Looks SUPER BORING. I love the worn hollywood trope of the nerd male virgin (Caleb) being naive, both sexually and otherwise. In reality, Caleb would yell out to Nathan in the other room "hey buddy, your cybersbitch is malfunctioning, come check it out" when She3PO started spouting nonsense when the lights went out.
I mean, also lets get real about this. The sexually repressed Caleb character would be penetrating every orifice (I'm assuming she has more than just the mouth) on that bot because he could and its the first chance he could really do that in his sexually repressed life. He's NOT going to be sheepish and let something with the emotional equivalent of a three year old run him. LOL, the whole premise of this movie is a fuggen JOKE.
Sexually repressed or not, I don't think Ava or Caleb were ready for bot-banging. But I assume you could spend many happy hours exploring your hoover.
Caleb would have She3PO bent over and you know it. Anyway, the way this movie flopped pretty much proves I'm right (as always)
Nathan = God Old testament (not love but cruel yet creative) Nathan in hebrew = gift of God (naming him Jaweh would be too much offputting)
Remote estate in Alaska = Garden of Eden. 7 sessions = 7 days = 7 days creation in Genesis
Caleb = ROBOT the better of Ava . Human 1.1, as he isNOT aware he is a robot. Caleb in hebrew = searcher of promised land.
Ava = Eve , as underdog does survive the fittest test and not Caleb
The heli is supposed to bring back to the office the winner AI robot.
When adam+ eve left Garden of eve having tasted the apple of knowledge they had to leave and God was never again an immidiate presence in their lives. God is dead. and so is Nathan.
Ava knows Caleb is robot and he is tested "you re wrong Nathan is not your friend (but your maker)"is true, hence when leaving she has no qualm about him staying in estate.
When found Caleb on floor she doesnt ask are you badly hurt or come with me, but Are you staying ? and Caleb the robot does not repond (many other cases where a human WOULD respond, Caleb as a nonemphatic robot doesnot respond, not even "I dunno"), does not join Ava (as promised before = caleb is lying) which is unhumane of caleb, and so Ava is
immediate and doesnot want Caleb with her.(Ava is very good in sensing lies/truth even when we audience cannot tell..hence she attacks Nathan when he claims she will ever be released from her room).
The scene of caleb cutting himself without pain, funny sirup blood, blase response in the next morning about that incident (as if it is of no importance to Nathan),the flickering around his face AT START of film and when in skin cutting scene (as if switch on, start up after recharging), the huge scar on Caleb back when he is 1st in the toilet, not getting drunk from alcohol, no empathy for destruction drinking of his hero boss Nathan, Caleb has virtually no past (dead parents when young, no siblings, no memories except a voice, supposedly living close to work,....it all adds up.
see at first who is the dead center ?
Caleb was supposed to return after 7 days as the adam of a new world..instead it was Ava.
The first man is not a man, the first man is a woman (or how biblical life would have been if the first man created was the woman eve.....).