appreciate your insights as always. I am totally happy with 2020 right now and not going anywhere near 2024 until it out of Beta (or Alpha?) and I can confidently move all of my 2020 content over.
I have just a Private Pilot, SEL rating, but I cannot consider purchasing MSFS 2024 until it is more mature. I will stay with 2020 for as long as it takes. Great video as always.
According to the developer's live stream, the lack of trim on the H125 is not a bug; it's working as designed (WAD). That said, since most of us use centering sticks-unless you have something like an MS Sidewinder-having trim would still be a helpful feature.
That is what I found out as well. The real helicopter does not have trim, but they do intend to add it in MSFS. That is why I said it does not have trim, yet. My point was trim could be mapped in settings, but trim did not work in the sim even if key binding is available.
I'm enjoying career mode more than I thought I would. It won't ever be the main way I use it, but for a bit of fun from time to time it's alright. I agree with pretty much everything you said though. Happy holidays :)
As a person who has marginal internet, I’m sticking with 2020 for now. I’d like to see MSFS make what you pay for available and allow you to download what you are interested in. I’m a simmer, not a gamer, so a lot of it I’ll never use, but being able to download the planes I want and the areas of scenery I fly in would make it much more usable. Just a thought.
That would be a nice feature similar to the way Google Maps allows users to download maps for offline usage in selected areas. Asobo have said they will enable aircraft to be downloaded to the PC in MSFS 2024, but it sounds like scenery will not be downloadable to the PC due to the massive amount of space it would take. It would be nice to download a small region, and it does seem possible. MSFS 2020 has a good combination of streamed/downloaded data, so the sim can still be played offline. MSFS 2020 is still a great sim!
Thank you for the honest review! I am finally happy with FS 2020 and am not in a hurry to upgrade, but the graphics do look amazing. I like that they added the career mode for people who need an objective. I can't believe the number of planes that are included in the sim. I do remember the frustrations with 2020, when they fixed 4 things and broke one major one. I am going to keep following, so I don't spend hours with workarounds that will be fixed if I wait.
Once the sim beats you into submission with all the bugs and nuances, it's a great sim. I can't wait to play it again. haha. The tale-tale sign that it is time to buy MSFS2024 will be when the MSFS Forum no longer looks like a tech support forum and gets back to aviation subject matter forum. Good to hear from you and hope you are doing well.
One thing I learned as an art director in advertising to check if the visual of the 2024 flight model "seems" realistic is to completely mute the simulator sound so as not to be "influenced" by it and observe for example, the roll of the wing of an airliner during approach and landing. The 2024 flight model is almost as MECHANICAL as the 2020 one. Ex: We do not feel the inertia of their masses which can weigh several tons each. They should be "late" compared to the input of the yoke or the sidestick (I could even perceive this delay in a Cessna 172 in real flight)! But two HUGHES VISUAL IMPROVEMENTS of 2024 that almost no one talks about are the SHADOWS projected on the dashboard (annoying in 2020) which now take into account the diameter of the Sun (about half an arc degree in reality). They are sharper for nearby objects and blurrier for distant objects. AND FINALLY, BLUE HOUR, the favorite of urban photographers, the one that follows just before sunrise and after sunset. Beautiful! P.S.: I'm surprised you didn't mention the blue and green taxiway lights that look like a Christmas tree at night ;-)
@@06L playing without sound has never occurred to me. I will have to try this trick the next time a video is made. Do you do photography as well? Photography is my other hobby.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I have had several Nikons in my career and the chance to learn from the best photographers in Montreal, Toronto and Los Angeles for my print ads. In movies, we sometimes use a "distracting" sound like a dog barking or a church bell etc. to "distract" the viewer from a bad cut in editing because contrary to popular belief, the brain cannot do 2 things at the same time (an unusual sound for example) but it is very fast! Magicians are experts at distracting the audience with an "other" gesture. Have fun turning off the sound to watch movie sequences (especially 3D motion effects). Without the sound, they sometimes become very revealing... and laughable!
@@06L Video editing and sound design have always been interesting. I bought a Sony A7 IV just under a year ago and now have multiple prime and zoom lenses in my collection. Adobe Lightroom was getting more use than MSFS over the last 6 months by far. Now that winter weather has arrived, it's time to get back to flight simulation.
As a casual aviation fan who’s scared of flying, I absolutely love career mode and the gamification aspects. I ended up buying a Hotas one throttle and stick for my Xbox
Good review. Everybody expects perfection from the very beginning. But we just have to be patient. Everything will be fixed thru all the updates coming up.
@@jmizzonini You're right. I may be expecting too much. That's why I'll be waiting until next Spring (around April) to buy MS24, when hopefully I'll have a new and much more powerful computer rig.
The sim will never be perfect, but they will make it better. The sim is like a puppy. It's clearly a dog but it's not a good dog but it will get better with age, and it may still take a leak, or worse, on the floor. However, in equating this sim to public sentiment, it took a leak on everyone's leg.
I downloaded 2024 with very LOW expectations and quickly found out that Asobo somehow managed to put out a sim that was so terrible I couldn't experience it. They never should have released it. I'll wait several months before I consider giving it a try. Sticking with 2020 for now...
@@cpfarch You know, the more I play MSFS 2024 the more I have been saying the same thing and my view towards the sim becomes more negative. This sim was rushed and was going to be released on a given date come hell or high water. Sadly, people are upset and MS/Asobo are going to give users 4 free airplanes to smooth things over. Something tells me the airplanes will be mediocre at best and won't really fix the problem at hand. Who really needs 4 more default airplanes? People paying money for the sim want one thing - honesty! Make a great sim and make it better than the last one. The ads should be what you see is what you get. That did not happen and MS/Asobo released videos showing how great it was with fancy graphics, invited the gamer MSFS creators to an event to make videos about the sim, and most of the community ended up being lied to. It's a shame what MSFS has done with MSFS 2024. They will fix the sim, but to release it in the current state was just wrong.
That seems to be the best option in the sim and probably the one I will end up getting. The Longitude and the Cirrus SR 22 are not in the standard edition, and I miss having them both, which are in the premium deluxe version. Those aircraft were both modified by the Working Title team and they do an amazing job with every aircraft they have a part in.
Loved the bench/trashcan comment at 0:49!!! The more detailed things get, the more people complain about details being wrong. With FS2004 I was amazed that I could recognize the shape of the town I lived in. With MSFS2024, I can complain that the photogrammetry of my house is a few years old. Personally I love MSFS2024. Wish the CDN disaster on the first day of release could have been avoided. Regarding all the other issues, with the scale of the project they could probably have continued development and bufixing for another 4 years and people would still complain. At some point you have to release the software to the public.
The shape of the town was amazing or even following roads to find the area your house is in. This simulator has come so far and with all the bugs, it is still amazing compared to where the world of flight simulation was 10 years ago. I noticed the bench/trashcan in MSFS 2020 but never had a chance to bring it up. MSFS 2024 gave me that opportunity and I do not expect it to be changed, nor imply that I hope they change it, it was meant as a fun joke. The bear trash can by the door is a very rugged trash can by the way. One of these days I will get a picture of it and post it in a community post on the channel.
I agree with what you say in this video. I have noticed that there isn't an engine cut-off/shutdown function. I have not been able to turn off jet and turboporp engines.
Which jets/turboprops have you experienced this in? I just tested this out and was able to shut down the engines in the B737, King Air 350, and CJ4. By the way, I noticed you have been subscribed to the channel for 4 years. Thank you for that!
Me too. I don't like how everything is streamed online. I hope that's not the way games are trending. Now they're also starting to make everything a yearly subscription which isn't happening either, lol.
Definitely sticking with 2020 for a bit. I don't have much confidence in the new sim as my network connection is a bit spotty at times. I do think 'mission creep' go into 2024 which is why so many features appear to be nonfunctional or have limited functionality. Third party addons are still going to be required if you want to full on experience, just like in 2020.
MSFS 2024 "works" with a great internet connection. There are bugs, but I have not had too much trouble with it except for the one time my internet was down for scheduled maintenance. Add-ons will be a welcome sight as most of the default airplanes are ok, but not great (with the exception of Working Title aircraft).
I'm with you on the "not giving two bleeps about character creation". But then again, I've never understood the popularity of this feature in any computer game.
@@imacmill What is even worse in some games, kids will spend their parents hard earned money to buy clothes for their avatars. Avatars are ridiculous in MSFS.
I did actually uninstall MSFS 2020 - firstly the improved lighting engine finally makes an absolutely amazing show on my mini-LED monitor (2020 was looking washed-out during overcast especially flying over green terrain); secondly although I have less max/avg FPS, I experience almost no stuttering that was typical to 2020 especialy close to big airports/so the frame consistency has improved significantly; and thirdly - I WILL BE ABLE TO EXTINGUISH FOREST FIRES!!!! (since I have seen the movie Always I am hopelessly in love with that kind of job, that I will sadly never be able to do in a real life). Overall I would say it’s about managing expectations - being a SW developer myself, I never expected a smooth launch without a LOTS of bugs…..
If you are happy with XP12 there is no point in switching for now. I can say the graphics will be a huge improvement over XP12. The rest of the sim has a way to go before it gets to XP12's level in terms of realism. Icing effects and systems depth are nowhere close to where XP12 is right now.
Lot's of problems for me . Unable to use my alpha or map buttons and controls . Sim looks very cartoonish more so than fs2020 . Trees are taller than skyscrapers . Also tried the lessons , again it would not recognize my keyboard functions . Just an incredible frustrating mess . PS ,, FS 2020 is also now screwed up so I can't use either sim now .
That is a bummer. Hopefully at least one of the sims is working for you now. It was frustrating redoing all the key binds to match the bindings set in MSFS 2020. Why the devs changed all the key binds will always be a mystery.
I am glad you enjoyed it. The avatar part and trying to make the passenger sick alluded to how silly avatar creation is and how mild the career mode is.
I wish you posted this video 72 hours ago... before I bought 2024. Oh well. At least I've contributed to further the cause and I'll be game ready when I willing to try the game again after the next few dozen updates.
I enjoy playing DCS but there's only a few select places to go. I was thinking of buying either MSFS 2024 or X-Plane 12 so I can fly around more areas of the world. Any advice as to which would be better?
XPlane12 has better systems integration than MSFS 2020, but that should not be the case forever with MSFS 2024. I had XPlane 12 for a few weeks and deleted it. The graphics were horrendously bad in some areas, and it looked like MSFS 2000. In my opinion, MSFS 2024 would be the way to go with better graphics, aircraft systems depth will improve and is better than MSFS 2020 already ( for example, C172 circuit breakers actually work), and it will have constant improvements and a very large backing for years to come with loads more users than XP12.
Thank you for an objective summary from a real pilot's perspective. I use MS2020 for IFR approach practice and proficiency so I hope MS2024 won't continue too far down the path of being a game.
MSFS 2024 will be fine in the long run and we will all get an even better sim out of it than what we have now. MSFS 2020 left a lot to be desired at first, but the devs improved it a lot over the last 4 years. We will hopefully get the same result with MSFS 2024. The release could have waited but it's here now and everyone will have to manage the frustration it can bring.
Played 2020 year ago, enjoyed it but no career mode or more top gun mission/story killed it for me, it needed something like gran turismo history of license tests/championships etc Sounds like i should wait until jan/feb until everything is bug fixed first at the least, i really do want a career mode, and id wish they expand into top gun storylines/missions DLC even
It is probably best to pay attention to updates from creators on UA-cam about MSFS 2024. There are still lots of bugs with it and I find more and more each time I play. How they released this sim with this many blatant mistakes will be a mystery.
Did you adjust for the volume of traffic in settings? There is a setting for boat traffic. Live traffic has not been loading in for most people that I know who play 2024. I would not reinstall the sim again. Instead, just play it as is and wait for updates.
Thanks for the review! Didn’t see any texture popping, LOD popping, stuttering, Wild fps swings, haphazard jetways, etc, etc in your video despite saying you’re frustrated. Those are just a few of mine. Gaining optimism, but oof, a tough, tedious start.
The most frustrating part initially was the different key bindings that we are all used to from MSFS 2020. I bought a new PC with a 4090 and with the graphics on Ultra it still runs really well. Flying in VR is a different story in FS2024. I have noticed small stuff like VOR receivers not showing GPS course when the GPS CDI is selected to GPS, generators powering electrical instruments with the engine off, live traffic not loading, and other stuff I cannot think of. People expected a better and more reliable sim and that is not what happened. Graphics aside, MSFS 2024 should have done everything MSFS 2020 currently does, but slightly better at a minimum. This does not seem to be the case and one more reason why so many people were upset upon release (not including the server debacle for the first day or two). MSFS 2024 WILL be a great sim in the future.
When they rolled out the beta testing and then the alpha testing for many many months, what the heck kind of input were they receiving? Obviously their testing and then release was premature or just very greedy, and then they’ll worry about it later, like now! 🤔
This has been on a lot of people's mind. Who were the testers? I am sure they spoke up. MS/Asobo also invited a bunch of gamers to promote the sim in a controlled environment. Lots of smoke and mirrors and that is one more reason so many people were upset upon release.
From my experience with the alpha release, they were just very careful not to include anything that didn't work. We had the three aircraft and that was that, and I low-key suspect their internal closed alphas weren't that different. The sim feels pretty damn solid if you only use the three aircraft from the alpha and don't touch career much.
After discovering DCS World, I began to refer to MSFS 2020 as a glorified Google Earth Simulator. The flight physics are lacking. Since I am not a real pilot, it is hard to quantify physics for me. It is about the actual "feel" of the aircraft. DCS World nailed it. How would you compare the physics of DCS World VS MSFS 2024? All in all. there is not much difference in flight physics of MSFS 2020 and 2024, is there? Thanks !
SO far it sucks. Half my hardware "logitech" don't work, can't have multiple monitors, very laggy and I have awesome internet and gaming system. Have to redo all my bindings, sucks. I wish they would just add a career mode to fs2020!! Thanks for vid
Key bindings were a big issue for me initially. It would have been nice if all the default bindings for 2020 were automatically used for 2024. Turning lights on used to be the L key but now it's the " ; " key just to the right of the L key. It makes a person wonder why in the heck they did this to the key bindings.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Totally agree. Wish somethings were not in the "cloud" so bindings could have moved to a local file. I feel it is gamey as well. I use sim for flights into unknown airports before I fly it in the real world and just for mental currency on approach charts and stuff before I go and do Instrument currency approaches...., you know as a fellow pilot, got to use it so don't lose it. Thanks for vids.
@@firepilot109 I do the same thing as you by flying into airports before actually going there in real life (if it's a new place). The sim is also great for practicing holds, entries, and all the stuff that we do not get to experience on every flight.
The Guimbal used to be my go-to helicopter, but that spot now belongs to R66, and I was just flying it right before answering this comment. Being able to land on oil rigs and all the different hospital helipads is a great addition to MSFS.
There is a bug withe R66. With all electrical power turned off and the engine off, if the GEN is switched on, the instruments that require electrical power to operate will turn on. With the engine off, selecting GEN to ON won't do anything.
Free flight all the way for me as well. I tried career mode and one challenge as you saw in the video, and I have not attempted either since and probably won't try again. My sim use is pretty much flying from point A to B in a GA airplane or flying around locally in helicopters (the things I don't get to do in real life).
Agree w/ your breakdown. MSFS2024 reminds me of MS Flight. Now that XBox users are their bread & butter the gamification of flight sim is full speed ahead. Glad 2020 will be in development until 28' because I don't need a civilian version of War Thunder :)
MS Flight - what a disappointment that was. War Thunder was my go-to simulation/entertainment before MSFS 2020 came out. I have spent many hours playing that game but quit when after getting my butt kicked too often. Hopefully the developers focus on realism and less on the gaming aspect of the sim. Although, the training side of career mode needs some serious work and if detailed and accurate, the training aspect of the sim could be useful and enjoyable to many people.
Great video. It reminds me why I'm not getting FS2024. I wont deal with the streaming crap. At least I can disconnect my internet and still fly using MSFS 2020 ...and those avatars?? 🤮 Don't get me started.
@@sky173 the avatars were a huge waste of resources. It was rumored the developers had data from the United Nations on types of clothing around the world for use with avatar design… for a flight simulator. When flying from the cockpit you can’t see the darn thing anyway. I better not get started either. The sim itself is promising.
I'm really frustrated with MSFS2024. I mean, the graphics are an improvement mostly, so I'd really like to have those. But the bugs just are so annoying. My training route is between EDDM and EDJA. In EDDM, when going from parking to the runways, you have to cross bridges (leading over the highways). Unfortunately, those bridges don't count as solid ground and you just fall through them. In some other small airports I had taxiways that suddenly go uphills and while taxiing the plane goes straight ahead instead of uphill and sinks halfway through the ground. At least often recovering. The career thingy is also annoying. In one of the early ones it still gives those markers where to taxi and where to hold. But when I do exactly that it complains that I didn't get taxi clearance. Which I can only get after stopping in the marked area. Which looks "short of runway" to me but apparently isn't. My favorite propeller machine (Chessna 208B) also has strange effects. With throttle set to minimum and RPM lever also set to minimum, the machine accelerates on the ground like crazy, at least after some initial taxiing. Or maybe it just reversed the logik of the RPM lever. Or set random values while taxiing. That one of the switches goes exactly the other way that you try to flip it is not that bad in comparison. Apart from that, the most annoying thing is the default key/joystick bindings. There is a special place in hell for whoever did the default bindings.
I agree with you 100% about the key bindings. That was extremely frustrating at first. My brain knew what buttons to press to achieve a certain task, but MSFS 2024 wasn't having it. I'll never understand why the developers did that and I am hoping someday they will give the option to set ALL key binds back to MSFS 2020 default bindings.
What do you experience when flying in VR? I get lots of screen tearing, jagged imagery in the cockpit with head movements, and far less performance in VR than what is observed in MSFS 2020 with a 4090 GPU.
@@thecorporatepilotdad It is terrible for me (unplayable). In 2d with pretty high settings (looks good) I am sitting around 50 FPS, which is smooth for me. In Vr I cannot really get above 27 FPS. It is stuttery, jagged, blurry... with motion it goes to 3 FPS then pops back smooth. It is clearly poorly optimized, most likely due to DX12. My 2020 is quite nice and smooth in VR. PC is a 5700X3D, with a 3080, 32gigs Ram. 600mbs wired internet. Perhaps they will make some fixes, I am not holding out. For now enjoying low level helis and bush flying, the walk around feature which I thought was a gimmick is pretty neat when you land on a high mountain field or heli pad... get out and have a walk, take a screenshot lol.
I think FS24 is a great step up over MSFS 2020 and has much greater potential because of its new design and engine. Since it launched, I play it pretty much daily. I uninstalled MSFS 2020 3 days after launch. I am not going to do a full critique, I doubt anyone cares what I think, but I would like to put in a vote for the Career Mode RPG. I enjoy it. And as a gamer before I was into flight simulation, it was the thing that was missing in MSFS 2020. Having been in the MSFS community now for a while I think there is a small group of hard core flight simmers and they are not going to be happy with any simulation...ever. They constantly complained about MSFS 2020, which now, ironically they say they are going to go back too. Reality is they hate the label of it being 'game' and having any 'gaming' like features like Career Mode....unless it was 100% realistic to Real Life. The idea that any gamer is going to go through all that it takes to get a real life PPL in a gaming sim is crazy. And then there are gamers who like simulations and while this game is never going to be in the top 10 most popular games, the inclusion of the Career Mode has a lot of potential that could make it viable for XBox Studios to continue to develop the sim and not drop it. It does after all have to have a reasonable amount of players to support its cost and those numbers can only come out of the Gamer community. There just are not enough hard core flight simmers to do that. Also, this is something new I believe. They are melding a close to life simulator with the makings of a MMORPG through the RPG of Career Mode. IF they figure out how to make Career Mode Companies a multiplayer feature (like a guild in mmorpg games) and build group level missions for people in the company (like dungeons in a mmorpg) there is a lot of potential. I can already envision 5 friends leveling up a Company by doing a mission together, like fight a fire that has mechanics and level of difficulty involved.
Thank you for the long and detailed comment. Having online players is nice, but you are 100% correct in saying missions could be even more fun if they could be done as co-op missions between friends online. Being able to communicate over the aircraft radio in the sim with air-to-air frequencies to coordinate a mission, giving locations, and whatever else, that would be SO MUCH FUN and many people (myself included) would be doing that kind of sim flying a lot. Flying with friends is fun, but flying with friends and completing a mission together would be even better. As a self-proclaimed gamer, did you have an interest in aviation before MSFS or did your interesting in aviation and flight simming come directly from Microsoft Flight Simulator?
@@thecorporatepilotdad It came directly from MSFS2020. I had been a mmorpg gamer, then when VR came I explored racing simulations. Then I read that MSFS 2020 and I was in on release day. I then started to study aviation, not only how to fly properly (thank you, your channels is part of that) and also the History of aviation (sparked by the famous flyers in MSFS) and now it is my sole indoor hobby, and I play it almost daily. I think Career Mode is not only something that has amazing potential if fixed, refined, and developed, but I think it is what can give MSFS longevity by building upon the base of Sim only players with a large group of simulation gamers, which would make MSFS a viable $ property in the XBox Studio.
@@Franco4flyin That is great that MSFS 2020 got you into aviation and helped you find a new hobby, or two hobbies if you include aviation history. I love aviation history and plan to do more aviation history related shorts in the future. MSFS in VR is amazing and flying helicopters in VR makes them even more immersive and fun. VR in MSFS 2024 does not perform very well and this PC has a 4090 GPU. I am hoping VR gets optimized soon. It may be my settings. VR worked well in MSFS 2024 the first week and then went downhill.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I am running the HP Reverb G2 on MS Windows 11 locked in on the H23 build so the WMR is still working. I have a Pimax Crystal Lite on order so that will change. I don't know that I find a difference from MSFS 2020 in FPS performance. I am at a pretty steady 38 to 42 FPS. But in the final analysis for me it is not really about FPS, as much as it is about 'smoothness'? I do not know how to measure 'smoothness' other than by my own subjective experience. If I am in VR for more than an hour and I can feel it start to tire me, even if I have 40 FPS I know its something else. And so yes to your point, there does seem to be less of what I call smoothness in 2024? It may be my equipment or my brain, I just do not know. I have a suspicion though. I look at what has changed. 2 things...resolution and streamed data. Perhaps it is partly caused by the speed of my CPU and GPU working to render this higher resolution and or perhaps the quality of the acquisition of the data that needs to be streamed is having an effect. I really do not know...its a blind guess. After I get the Pimax I will likely do another computer build sometime in 2025...this last one I built last is a 3090 card and the intel CPU is 3 or 4 generations back.
RW private pilot here who has played various versions of FS for a long time going back to FS98. I have a lot of mixed feelings about FS2024. I like that it introduces you to a lot of different types of flying experiences, but the problem is it does so with mediocrity and appeals to a very casual audience. They could've made realistic flying lessons that have extensive briefings but instead the private pilot ride is a lap around the pattern and commercial one is a 10 minute flight without using GPS. The career mode could have included background from RW pilots in these various careers to add color to the career and offer tips and training as you grind out the missions, but instead it just feels very rushed and gets repetitive very quickly. A lot of the aircraft also contain bugs that in some cases are immersion breaking(pilots/passengers sticking out of the bonanza for example). The photogrammetry hasn't really been updated since 2020 and is still very outdated in many parts of the world. Lighting and ground textures are much improved, but ai traffic and ATC still a mess. It's the third party community that breathes life into the sim through freeware and payware sceneries, aircraft, and utilities and I am sure with time more of these add-ons will become compatible with 2024 along with development of strong new entries. I also think the avatar mode where you can walk around is really cool and opens up a lot of possibilities for the capabilities of the sim(think landing at your airport, parking, getting out and into your car and driving home). FS has come a long way and I can't imagine the complexities of trying to model a world in 3D with accounting for all the variables in the process so of course I give kudos to Asobo for their efforts. That said, I also may pivot back to xplane 12 for more complex aircraft simulations which seems to put more of a focus on getting the core pieces of a flight sim right at the expense of lower quality scenery and eyecandy. Thanks for your honest review.
You are welcome and thank you for the long and detailed comment. Career mode leaves a lot to be desired. They made it look so easy to get a PPL or IR in real life, and it's nothing like what is portrayed in the sim. Then again, the Cessna 172 does not start the same way in real-life as it does in the sim. There is only so much the sim can do, but it would have been great to see more real-world based lessons and ACS task-oriented check rides than what is in the sim. Hopefully career mode and check rides will be developed further in the future.
Yes, I do like it, and there are lots of new features that are hard to beat. It has lots of bugs, but those can all be fixed. This sim has a lot of potential.
Exactly and I found this out after trying to bind the trim when there were clearly key bindings available. If they knowingly didn't put trim on the H125 because the real aircraft doesn't have trim, then why have the bindings even be available? That was the point I was trying to make.
I am so dissapointed with the Mfs 2024 Ls8-18 glider. Wings don't flex at high G turns, you can't open canopy, flight model looks simplified compared to the Mfs 2024 Dg-1001E glider. What a cheap work from Asobo studio!
I have not noticed but haven't tried gliders in MSFS 2024 yet. I did use them a lot in MSFS 2020 and who would have thought flying gliders in a flight sim could be so much fun?
I literally un-installed 2024 after 4 failed airliner missions due to the game running at 2 frames per minute on approach. Amongst many many other issues. The game is broken so badly, career mode is an actual test in patience and then a test not to throw my xbox out of the window. So I downloaded 2020 again until they fix that busted, broken, sad excuse for a new sim.
And I have to add that one doesn't understand pain until you've grinded career mode to the point where you can fly jetliners. Do you realize how many failed missions and planes I've lost due to the game being absolute shit? Doing that first airliner mission in South Korea pushed me over the edge, on approach I ended up with about 3 frames a minute, and the cockpit completely dissolved, I was just floating in an empty seat with no access to dials and on top of the 3 frames a minute, the brakes stopped working so I went off the runway and the game said "awh you failed, try harder" excuse me, YOU are the failure here. Lol
Two frames per minute? The XBox should be able to do better than that. How is your internet connection? I run an ethernet connection to my PC and to the XBOX and get 600 mbps vs 200 through the router.
@@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 I hope it gets better for you in the future. It's nice to see a comment from you. You have one of those usernames that is impossible to forget.
I honestly don't think Career mode will ever be fixed. Sure, they may iron out the bugs, but it's so gamey, and divorced from real aviation careers, I don't see a way for Asobo to fix it, given their mindset in regards to what a flight sim should be.
It would also be nice if crop dusting, carrying cargo with helos, rescue missions, etc. could be done as stand-alone tasks and not just through career mode. Already being 3/4 of the way through career mode in real life, the last thing I want to do is a poorly designed career mode in a video game that lacks realism - such as flying a traffic pattern for the private pilot checkride.
Well to keep the balance I’ll give you a big thumbs up for this video. As a real life pilot I can never use MSFS for any kind of serious practice or training. If I want to have fun then I’ll use the video game MSFS but for serious stuff I go to x-plane …I know some haters out there will give me grief for saying this but don’t take my word for it, I would refer you to the FAA to see which platform is approved by them…. Still enjoying MSFS, it’s lots of fun
"for serious stuff I go to x-plane". Are you kidding? if you want some 'serious stuff' buy yourself a multi-million dollars Level-D simulator like the airlines use for pilot training.
@@jorgeB767-3ERyup, just as I expected, the haters will respond. I have 25,000 hours and 42 years as an airline pilot. I have a pretty good idea of what I’m talking about and instructed in Level D simulators for over 25 years. But obviously I can’t buy one for my personal use!
Be sure to tell the 12 y/o gamers that career mode will never get you a career in aviation and photographing fake giraffes will not get you a career as a photog.
They could have simply fixed all that shit in MSFS2020. I'm not buying the same goddamn game again. Yet they make a new game - the same exact game - and can't even fix anything. What a joke. This is literally an update to 2020. Nothing more. And barely that. They literally took their game, made a few changes and sold it as a new game. Pathetic.
@@jingle1161 There are great new pieces of software that help with ATC. I have not tried BATC or Say Intentions. Have you used both? Do you think it's worth the money to have a service like BATC or SI all the time? I am interested in trying one out soon.
@@thecorporatepilotdad for IFR/airliners BATC (one time purchase $30) Handles all traffic, Voices are ok, but if you want even better, you can buy credits. For VFR maybe SI, ($20 p.month) less scripted, but slower and more bugs. I take a monthly SI subscription every now and then, but it still needs work.
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Thanks for the comment. I hope you have a great day.
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Ha, ha …. too funny!
I give it 2 thumbs up!
I'm betting this guy is not real pilot but pilot wanna be 😜
appreciate your insights as always. I am totally happy with 2020 right now and not going anywhere near 2024 until it out of Beta (or Alpha?) and I can confidently move all of my 2020 content over.
I have just a Private Pilot, SEL rating, but I cannot consider purchasing MSFS 2024 until it is more mature. I will stay with 2020 for as long as it takes. Great video as always.
Thank you. 2024 isn’t for everyone yet. I was waiting to buy it but decided to get it because we have game pass ultimate so it was “free”.
According to the developer's live stream, the lack of trim on the H125 is not a bug; it's working as designed (WAD). That said, since most of us use centering sticks-unless you have something like an MS Sidewinder-having trim would still be a helpful feature.
That is what I found out as well. The real helicopter does not have trim, but they do intend to add it in MSFS. That is why I said it does not have trim, yet. My point was trim could be mapped in settings, but trim did not work in the sim even if key binding is available.
A quick Google search shows the as350/h125 actually does have pitch trim controls soni don't know what the fuck asobo is smoking
Always appreciate it when a actual pilot chimes in on this hobby! Thanks pal!
You are welcome. Simming is a great hobby, and I want it to be accurate, realistic, and fun for all.
@@thecorporatepilotdad It is, and thank you too!
I'm enjoying career mode more than I thought I would. It won't ever be the main way I use it, but for a bit of fun from time to time it's alright. I agree with pretty much everything you said though. Happy holidays :)
@@FlightSimSchool I want to eventually work my way through career mode just for crop dusting and firefighting missions. Good to hear from you!
As a person who has marginal internet, I’m sticking with 2020 for now.
I’d like to see MSFS make what you pay for available and allow you to download what you are interested in. I’m a simmer, not a gamer, so a lot of it I’ll never use, but being able to download the planes I want and the areas of scenery I fly in would make it much more usable.
Just a thought.
That would be a nice feature similar to the way Google Maps allows users to download maps for offline usage in selected areas. Asobo have said they will enable aircraft to be downloaded to the PC in MSFS 2024, but it sounds like scenery will not be downloadable to the PC due to the massive amount of space it would take. It would be nice to download a small region, and it does seem possible. MSFS 2020 has a good combination of streamed/downloaded data, so the sim can still be played offline. MSFS 2020 is still a great sim!
Thank you for the honest review! I am finally happy with FS 2020 and am not in a hurry to upgrade, but the graphics do look amazing. I like that they added the career mode for people who need an objective. I can't believe the number of planes that are included in the sim. I do remember the frustrations with 2020, when they fixed 4 things and broke one major one. I am going to keep following, so I don't spend hours with workarounds that will be fixed if I wait.
Once the sim beats you into submission with all the bugs and nuances, it's a great sim. I can't wait to play it again. haha. The tale-tale sign that it is time to buy MSFS2024 will be when the MSFS Forum no longer looks like a tech support forum and gets back to aviation subject matter forum. Good to hear from you and hope you are doing well.
Give it 6 months and they'll hopefully be a whole lot better. It did take a good year before 2020 started going in a stronger direction
Very true! The Asobo team have already had a practice run with MSFS 2020. I can't wait to see what MSFS 2024 looks like in 2 years.
One thing I learned as an art director in advertising to check if the visual of the 2024 flight model "seems" realistic is to completely mute the simulator sound so as not to be "influenced" by it and observe for example, the roll of the wing of an airliner during approach and landing. The 2024 flight model is almost as MECHANICAL as the 2020 one. Ex: We do not feel the inertia of their masses which can weigh several tons each. They should be "late" compared to the input of the yoke or the sidestick (I could even perceive this delay in a Cessna 172 in real flight)!
But two HUGHES VISUAL IMPROVEMENTS of 2024 that almost no one talks about are the SHADOWS projected on the dashboard (annoying in 2020) which now take into account the diameter of the Sun (about half an arc degree in reality). They are sharper for nearby objects and blurrier for distant objects. AND FINALLY, BLUE HOUR, the favorite of urban photographers, the one that follows just before sunrise and after sunset. Beautiful!
P.S.: I'm surprised you didn't mention the blue and green taxiway lights that look like a Christmas tree at night ;-)
@@06L playing without sound has never occurred to me. I will have to try this trick the next time a video is made. Do you do photography as well? Photography is my other hobby.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I have had several Nikons in my career and the chance to learn from the best photographers in Montreal, Toronto and Los Angeles for my print ads. In movies, we sometimes use a "distracting" sound like a dog barking or a church bell etc. to "distract" the viewer from a bad cut in editing because contrary to popular belief, the brain cannot do 2 things at the same time (an unusual sound for example) but it is very fast! Magicians are experts at distracting the audience with an "other" gesture. Have fun turning off the sound to watch movie sequences (especially 3D motion effects). Without the sound, they sometimes become very revealing... and laughable!
@@06L Video editing and sound design have always been interesting. I bought a Sony A7 IV just under a year ago and now have multiple prime and zoom lenses in my collection. Adobe Lightroom was getting more use than MSFS over the last 6 months by far. Now that winter weather has arrived, it's time to get back to flight simulation.
1:08 those landing gears missing on the longitude have nothing to do with streaming, it's just a LOD issue. Same with the working title 747-400s.
Either way, the landing gear should not disappear and reappear.
As a casual aviation fan who’s scared of flying, I absolutely love career mode and the gamification aspects. I ended up buying a Hotas one throttle and stick for my Xbox
Good review. Everybody expects perfection from the very beginning. But we just have to be patient. Everything will be fixed thru all the updates coming up.
Will it though? They never finished fixing issues with 2020 so you’ve got some unrealistic expectations tbh
@@jmizzonini You're right. I may be expecting too much. That's why I'll be waiting until next Spring (around April) to buy MS24, when hopefully I'll have a new and much more powerful computer rig.
The sim will never be perfect, but they will make it better. The sim is like a puppy. It's clearly a dog but it's not a good dog but it will get better with age, and it may still take a leak, or worse, on the floor. However, in equating this sim to public sentiment, it took a leak on everyone's leg.
I downloaded 2024 with very LOW expectations and quickly found out that Asobo somehow managed to put out a sim that was so terrible I couldn't experience it. They never should have released it. I'll wait several months before I consider giving it a try. Sticking with 2020 for now...
@@cpfarch You know, the more I play MSFS 2024 the more I have been saying the same thing and my view towards the sim becomes more negative. This sim was rushed and was going to be released on a given date come hell or high water. Sadly, people are upset and MS/Asobo are going to give users 4 free airplanes to smooth things over. Something tells me the airplanes will be mediocre at best and won't really fix the problem at hand. Who really needs 4 more default airplanes? People paying money for the sim want one thing - honesty! Make a great sim and make it better than the last one. The ads should be what you see is what you get. That did not happen and MS/Asobo released videos showing how great it was with fancy graphics, invited the gamer MSFS creators to an event to make videos about the sim, and most of the community ended up being lied to. It's a shame what MSFS has done with MSFS 2024. They will fix the sim, but to release it in the current state was just wrong.
Payed for the premium deluxe and loved it only had a few bugs but otherwise it’s been running smoothly
That seems to be the best option in the sim and probably the one I will end up getting. The Longitude and the Cirrus SR 22 are not in the standard edition, and I miss having them both, which are in the premium deluxe version. Those aircraft were both modified by the Working Title team and they do an amazing job with every aircraft they have a part in.
@@thecorporatepilotdadyes agreed premium deluxe gives you a good variety of aircraft to play around with
Loved the bench/trashcan comment at 0:49!!! The more detailed things get, the more people complain about details being wrong. With FS2004 I was amazed that I could recognize the shape of the town I lived in. With MSFS2024, I can complain that the photogrammetry of my house is a few years old. Personally I love MSFS2024. Wish the CDN disaster on the first day of release could have been avoided. Regarding all the other issues, with the scale of the project they could probably have continued development and bufixing for another 4 years and people would still complain. At some point you have to release the software to the public.
The shape of the town was amazing or even following roads to find the area your house is in. This simulator has come so far and with all the bugs, it is still amazing compared to where the world of flight simulation was 10 years ago. I noticed the bench/trashcan in MSFS 2020 but never had a chance to bring it up. MSFS 2024 gave me that opportunity and I do not expect it to be changed, nor imply that I hope they change it, it was meant as a fun joke. The bear trash can by the door is a very rugged trash can by the way. One of these days I will get a picture of it and post it in a community post on the channel.
I agree with what you say in this video. I have noticed that there isn't an engine cut-off/shutdown function. I have not been able to turn off jet and turboporp engines.
Which jets/turboprops have you experienced this in? I just tested this out and was able to shut down the engines in the B737, King Air 350, and CJ4. By the way, I noticed you have been subscribed to the channel for 4 years. Thank you for that!
Thanks for the review, I'm glad i watched this before buying it. I'm going to avoid it if a constant internet connection is required
Me too. I don't like how everything is streamed online. I hope that's not the way games are trending. Now they're also starting to make everything a yearly subscription which isn't happening either, lol.
Definitely sticking with 2020 for a bit. I don't have much confidence in the new sim as my network connection is a bit spotty at times. I do think 'mission creep' go into 2024 which is why so many features appear to be nonfunctional or have limited functionality. Third party addons are still going to be required if you want to full on experience, just like in 2020.
MSFS 2024 "works" with a great internet connection. There are bugs, but I have not had too much trouble with it except for the one time my internet was down for scheduled maintenance. Add-ons will be a welcome sight as most of the default airplanes are ok, but not great (with the exception of Working Title aircraft).
I'm with you on the "not giving two bleeps about character creation". But then again, I've never understood the popularity of this feature in any computer game.
@@imacmill What is even worse in some games, kids will spend their parents hard earned money to buy clothes for their avatars. Avatars are ridiculous in MSFS.
I did actually uninstall MSFS 2020 - firstly the improved lighting engine finally makes an absolutely amazing show on my mini-LED monitor (2020 was looking washed-out during overcast especially flying over green terrain); secondly although I have less max/avg FPS, I experience almost no stuttering that was typical to 2020 especialy close to big airports/so the frame consistency has improved significantly; and thirdly - I WILL BE ABLE TO EXTINGUISH FOREST FIRES!!!! (since I have seen the movie Always I am hopelessly in love with that kind of job, that I will sadly never be able to do in a real life). Overall I would say it’s about managing expectations - being a SW developer myself, I never expected a smooth launch without a LOTS of bugs…..
Great review! I was thinking about getting MS2024, but I will stick with XPlane 12 for now.
If you are happy with XP12 there is no point in switching for now. I can say the graphics will be a huge improvement over XP12. The rest of the sim has a way to go before it gets to XP12's level in terms of realism. Icing effects and systems depth are nowhere close to where XP12 is right now.
Lot's of problems for me . Unable to use my alpha or map buttons and controls . Sim looks very cartoonish more so than fs2020 . Trees are taller than skyscrapers . Also tried the lessons , again it would not recognize my keyboard functions . Just an incredible frustrating mess . PS ,, FS 2020 is also now screwed up so I can't use either sim now .
That is a bummer. Hopefully at least one of the sims is working for you now. It was frustrating redoing all the key binds to match the bindings set in MSFS 2020. Why the devs changed all the key binds will always be a mystery.
Nice vid, Thanks.
So did they perfect 2020 compared to 2024?
Thanks for the recap, it made me chuckle. Enjoyed it quite a bit 😄
I am glad you enjoyed it. The avatar part and trying to make the passenger sick alluded to how silly avatar creation is and how mild the career mode is.
I was going to wait at least 6 months before I play it. I tried 2020 when it first came out and waited 6 months for it also.
That is a good plan and that was my initial plan, but since MSFS is free with Game Pass Ultimate, there was no harm in seeing what it was about.
Thanks for your thoughts
I wish you posted this video 72 hours ago... before I bought 2024. Oh well. At least I've contributed to further the cause and I'll be game ready when I willing to try the game again after the next few dozen updates.
Wouldn't you know I wanted to post this on Friday but got busy and had to wait until Monday?
I've been doing career. Have absolutely zero idea how a G1000 works outside of basic AP, but I passed the IFR checkride, aced it lol
You should pat yourself on the back for sure!
I enjoy playing DCS but there's only a few select places to go. I was thinking of buying either MSFS 2024 or X-Plane 12 so I can fly around more areas of the world. Any advice as to which would be better?
XPlane12 has better systems integration than MSFS 2020, but that should not be the case forever with MSFS 2024. I had XPlane 12 for a few weeks and deleted it. The graphics were horrendously bad in some areas, and it looked like MSFS 2000. In my opinion, MSFS 2024 would be the way to go with better graphics, aircraft systems depth will improve and is better than MSFS 2020 already ( for example, C172 circuit breakers actually work), and it will have constant improvements and a very large backing for years to come with loads more users than XP12.
Thank you for an objective summary from a real pilot's perspective. I use MS2020 for IFR approach practice and proficiency so I hope MS2024 won't continue too far down the path of being a game.
MSFS 2024 will be fine in the long run and we will all get an even better sim out of it than what we have now. MSFS 2020 left a lot to be desired at first, but the devs improved it a lot over the last 4 years. We will hopefully get the same result with MSFS 2024. The release could have waited but it's here now and everyone will have to manage the frustration it can bring.
Played 2020 year ago, enjoyed it but no career mode or more top gun mission/story killed it for me, it needed something like gran turismo history of license tests/championships etc
Sounds like i should wait until jan/feb until everything is bug fixed first at the least, i really do want a career mode, and id wish they expand into top gun storylines/missions DLC even
It is probably best to pay attention to updates from creators on UA-cam about MSFS 2024. There are still lots of bugs with it and I find more and more each time I play. How they released this sim with this many blatant mistakes will be a mystery.
I don’t have cars and boats traffic on my sim even with reinstall.
Did you adjust for the volume of traffic in settings? There is a setting for boat traffic. Live traffic has not been loading in for most people that I know who play 2024. I would not reinstall the sim again. Instead, just play it as is and wait for updates.
@ I tried all all settings for boats and cars. Well, let see if today update will get me the traffics. Thanks for reply.
Thanks for the review! Didn’t see any texture popping, LOD popping, stuttering, Wild fps swings, haphazard jetways, etc, etc in your video despite saying you’re frustrated. Those are just a few of mine. Gaining optimism, but oof, a tough, tedious start.
The most frustrating part initially was the different key bindings that we are all used to from MSFS 2020. I bought a new PC with a 4090 and with the graphics on Ultra it still runs really well. Flying in VR is a different story in FS2024. I have noticed small stuff like VOR receivers not showing GPS course when the GPS CDI is selected to GPS, generators powering electrical instruments with the engine off, live traffic not loading, and other stuff I cannot think of. People expected a better and more reliable sim and that is not what happened. Graphics aside, MSFS 2024 should have done everything MSFS 2020 currently does, but slightly better at a minimum. This does not seem to be the case and one more reason why so many people were upset upon release (not including the server debacle for the first day or two). MSFS 2024 WILL be a great sim in the future.
When they rolled out the beta testing and then the alpha testing for many many months, what the heck kind of input were they receiving? Obviously their testing and then release was premature or just very greedy, and then they’ll worry about it later, like now! 🤔
This has been on a lot of people's mind. Who were the testers? I am sure they spoke up. MS/Asobo also invited a bunch of gamers to promote the sim in a controlled environment. Lots of smoke and mirrors and that is one more reason so many people were upset upon release.
From my experience with the alpha release, they were just very careful not to include anything that didn't work. We had the three aircraft and that was that, and I low-key suspect their internal closed alphas weren't that different. The sim feels pretty damn solid if you only use the three aircraft from the alpha and don't touch career much.
After discovering DCS World, I began to refer to MSFS 2020 as a glorified Google Earth Simulator. The flight physics are lacking. Since I am not a real pilot, it is hard to quantify physics for me. It is about the actual "feel" of the aircraft. DCS World nailed it. How would you compare the physics of DCS World VS MSFS 2024? All in all. there is not much difference in flight physics of MSFS 2020 and 2024, is there? Thanks !
SO far it sucks. Half my hardware "logitech" don't work, can't have multiple monitors, very laggy and I have awesome internet and gaming system. Have to redo all my bindings, sucks. I wish they would just add a career mode to fs2020!! Thanks for vid
Key bindings were a big issue for me initially. It would have been nice if all the default bindings for 2020 were automatically used for 2024. Turning lights on used to be the L key but now it's the " ; " key just to the right of the L key. It makes a person wonder why in the heck they did this to the key bindings.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Totally agree. Wish somethings were not in the "cloud" so bindings could have moved to a local file. I feel it is gamey as well. I use sim for flights into unknown airports before I fly it in the real world and just for mental currency on approach charts and stuff before I go and do Instrument currency approaches...., you know as a fellow pilot, got to use it so don't lose it. Thanks for vids.
@@firepilot109 I do the same thing as you by flying into airports before actually going there in real life (if it's a new place). The sim is also great for practicing holds, entries, and all the stuff that we do not get to experience on every flight.
Wait….there is no multi monitor support ??!??
@@jmizzonini I haven't been able to get it to work but if someone has had luck then please share!
its getting better, I really enjoy the R66 , its fun to fly.
The Guimbal used to be my go-to helicopter, but that spot now belongs to R66, and I was just flying it right before answering this comment. Being able to land on oil rigs and all the different hospital helipads is a great addition to MSFS.
There is a bug withe R66. With all electrical power turned off and the engine off, if the GEN is switched on, the instruments that require electrical power to operate will turn on. With the engine off, selecting GEN to ON won't do anything.
100% Free flight for this user as I did for MSFS2020. Very unfortunate that there are major issues with career and the other categories.
Free flight all the way for me as well. I tried career mode and one challenge as you saw in the video, and I have not attempted either since and probably won't try again. My sim use is pretty much flying from point A to B in a GA airplane or flying around locally in helicopters (the things I don't get to do in real life).
Agree w/ your breakdown. MSFS2024 reminds me of MS Flight. Now that XBox users are their bread & butter the gamification of flight sim is full speed ahead. Glad 2020 will be in development until 28' because I don't need a civilian version of War Thunder :)
MS Flight - what a disappointment that was. War Thunder was my go-to simulation/entertainment before MSFS 2020 came out. I have spent many hours playing that game but quit when after getting my butt kicked too often. Hopefully the developers focus on realism and less on the gaming aspect of the sim. Although, the training side of career mode needs some serious work and if detailed and accurate, the training aspect of the sim could be useful and enjoyable to many people.
Great video. It reminds me why I'm not getting FS2024. I wont deal with the streaming crap. At least I can disconnect my internet and still fly using MSFS 2020
...and those avatars?? 🤮 Don't get me started.
@@sky173 the avatars were a huge waste of resources. It was rumored the developers had data from the United Nations on types of clothing around the world for use with avatar design… for a flight simulator. When flying from the cockpit you can’t see the darn thing anyway. I better not get started either. The sim itself is promising.
I'm really frustrated with MSFS2024. I mean, the graphics are an improvement mostly, so I'd really like to have those. But the bugs just are so annoying. My training route is between EDDM and EDJA. In EDDM, when going from parking to the runways, you have to cross bridges (leading over the highways). Unfortunately, those bridges don't count as solid ground and you just fall through them. In some other small airports I had taxiways that suddenly go uphills and while taxiing the plane goes straight ahead instead of uphill and sinks halfway through the ground. At least often recovering.
The career thingy is also annoying. In one of the early ones it still gives those markers where to taxi and where to hold. But when I do exactly that it complains that I didn't get taxi clearance. Which I can only get after stopping in the marked area. Which looks "short of runway" to me but apparently isn't.
My favorite propeller machine (Chessna 208B) also has strange effects. With throttle set to minimum and RPM lever also set to minimum, the machine accelerates on the ground like crazy, at least after some initial taxiing. Or maybe it just reversed the logik of the RPM lever. Or set random values while taxiing. That one of the switches goes exactly the other way that you try to flip it is not that bad in comparison.
Apart from that, the most annoying thing is the default key/joystick bindings. There is a special place in hell for whoever did the default bindings.
I agree with you 100% about the key bindings. That was extremely frustrating at first. My brain knew what buttons to press to achieve a certain task, but MSFS 2024 wasn't having it. I'll never understand why the developers did that and I am hoping someday they will give the option to set ALL key binds back to MSFS 2020 default bindings.
I think there is lots of potential. Good start. Saddest thing for me is how badly VR is optimized. Have to fly 2d for now, and it does look great.
What do you experience when flying in VR? I get lots of screen tearing, jagged imagery in the cockpit with head movements, and far less performance in VR than what is observed in MSFS 2020 with a 4090 GPU.
@@thecorporatepilotdad It is terrible for me (unplayable). In 2d with pretty high settings (looks good) I am sitting around 50 FPS, which is smooth for me. In Vr I cannot really get above 27 FPS. It is stuttery, jagged, blurry... with motion it goes to 3 FPS then pops back smooth. It is clearly poorly optimized, most likely due to DX12. My 2020 is quite nice and smooth in VR. PC is a 5700X3D, with a 3080, 32gigs Ram. 600mbs wired internet. Perhaps they will make some fixes, I am not holding out. For now enjoying low level helis and bush flying, the walk around feature which I thought was a gimmick is pretty neat when you land on a high mountain field or heli pad... get out and have a walk, take a screenshot lol.
I think FS24 is a great step up over MSFS 2020 and has much greater potential because of its new design and engine.
Since it launched, I play it pretty much daily. I uninstalled MSFS 2020 3 days after launch.
I am not going to do a full critique, I doubt anyone cares what I think, but I would like to put in a vote for the Career Mode RPG.
I enjoy it.
And as a gamer before I was into flight simulation, it was the thing that was missing in MSFS 2020. Having been in the MSFS community now for a while I think there is a small group of hard core flight simmers and they are not going to be happy with any simulation...ever. They constantly complained about MSFS 2020, which now, ironically they say they are going to go back too. Reality is they hate the label of it being 'game' and having any 'gaming' like features like Career Mode....unless it was 100% realistic to Real Life. The idea that any gamer is going to go through all that it takes to get a real life PPL in a gaming sim is crazy.
And then there are gamers who like simulations and while this game is never going to be in the top 10 most popular games, the inclusion of the Career Mode has a lot of potential that could make it viable for XBox Studios to continue to develop the sim and not drop it. It does after all have to have a reasonable amount of players to support its cost and those numbers can only come out of the Gamer community. There just are not enough hard core flight simmers to do that.
Also, this is something new I believe. They are melding a close to life simulator with the makings of a MMORPG through the RPG of Career Mode.
IF they figure out how to make Career Mode Companies a multiplayer feature (like a guild in mmorpg games) and build group level missions for people in the company (like dungeons in a mmorpg) there is a lot of potential. I can already envision 5 friends leveling up a Company by doing a mission together, like fight a fire that has mechanics and level of difficulty involved.
Thank you for the long and detailed comment. Having online players is nice, but you are 100% correct in saying missions could be even more fun if they could be done as co-op missions between friends online. Being able to communicate over the aircraft radio in the sim with air-to-air frequencies to coordinate a mission, giving locations, and whatever else, that would be SO MUCH FUN and many people (myself included) would be doing that kind of sim flying a lot. Flying with friends is fun, but flying with friends and completing a mission together would be even better.
As a self-proclaimed gamer, did you have an interest in aviation before MSFS or did your interesting in aviation and flight simming come directly from Microsoft Flight Simulator?
@@thecorporatepilotdad It came directly from MSFS2020. I had been a mmorpg gamer, then when VR came I explored racing simulations. Then I read that MSFS 2020 and I was in on release day. I then started to study aviation, not only how to fly properly (thank you, your channels is part of that) and also the History of aviation (sparked by the famous flyers in MSFS) and now it is my sole indoor hobby, and I play it almost daily.
I think Career Mode is not only something that has amazing potential if fixed, refined, and developed, but I think it is what can give MSFS longevity by building upon the base of Sim only players with a large group of simulation gamers, which would make MSFS a viable $ property in the XBox Studio.
@@Franco4flyin That is great that MSFS 2020 got you into aviation and helped you find a new hobby, or two hobbies if you include aviation history. I love aviation history and plan to do more aviation history related shorts in the future. MSFS in VR is amazing and flying helicopters in VR makes them even more immersive and fun. VR in MSFS 2024 does not perform very well and this PC has a 4090 GPU. I am hoping VR gets optimized soon. It may be my settings. VR worked well in MSFS 2024 the first week and then went downhill.
@@thecorporatepilotdad I am running the HP Reverb G2 on MS Windows 11 locked in on the H23 build so the WMR is still working. I have a Pimax Crystal Lite on order so that will change.
I don't know that I find a difference from MSFS 2020 in FPS performance. I am at a pretty steady 38 to 42 FPS.
But in the final analysis for me it is not really about FPS, as much as it is about 'smoothness'? I do not know how to measure 'smoothness' other than by my own subjective experience. If I am in VR for more than an hour and I can feel it start to tire me, even if I have 40 FPS I know its something else.
And so yes to your point, there does seem to be less of what I call smoothness in 2024? It may be my equipment or my brain, I just do not know.
I have a suspicion though. I look at what has changed. 2 things...resolution and streamed data.
Perhaps it is partly caused by the speed of my CPU and GPU working to render this higher resolution and or perhaps the quality of the acquisition of the data that needs to be streamed is having an effect. I really do not know...its a blind guess.
After I get the Pimax I will likely do another computer build sometime in 2025...this last one I built last is a 3090 card and the intel CPU is 3 or 4 generations back.
RW private pilot here who has played various versions of FS for a long time going back to FS98. I have a lot of mixed feelings about FS2024. I like that it introduces you to a lot of different types of flying experiences, but the problem is it does so with mediocrity and appeals to a very casual audience. They could've made realistic flying lessons that have extensive briefings but instead the private pilot ride is a lap around the pattern and commercial one is a 10 minute flight without using GPS. The career mode could have included background from RW pilots in these various careers to add color to the career and offer tips and training as you grind out the missions, but instead it just feels very rushed and gets repetitive very quickly. A lot of the aircraft also contain bugs that in some cases are immersion breaking(pilots/passengers sticking out of the bonanza for example).
The photogrammetry hasn't really been updated since 2020 and is still very outdated in many parts of the world. Lighting and ground textures are much improved, but ai traffic and ATC still a mess. It's the third party community that breathes life into the sim through freeware and payware sceneries, aircraft, and utilities and I am sure with time more of these add-ons will become compatible with 2024 along with development of strong new entries. I also think the avatar mode where you can walk around is really cool and opens up a lot of possibilities for the capabilities of the sim(think landing at your airport, parking, getting out and into your car and driving home).
FS has come a long way and I can't imagine the complexities of trying to model a world in 3D with accounting for all the variables in the process so of course I give kudos to Asobo for their efforts. That said, I also may pivot back to xplane 12 for more complex aircraft simulations which seems to put more of a focus on getting the core pieces of a flight sim right at the expense of lower quality scenery and eyecandy. Thanks for your honest review.
You are welcome and thank you for the long and detailed comment. Career mode leaves a lot to be desired. They made it look so easy to get a PPL or IR in real life, and it's nothing like what is portrayed in the sim. Then again, the Cessna 172 does not start the same way in real-life as it does in the sim. There is only so much the sim can do, but it would have been great to see more real-world based lessons and ACS task-oriented check rides than what is in the sim. Hopefully career mode and check rides will be developed further in the future.
So...do you like it?
Yes, I do like it, and there are lots of new features that are hard to beat. It has lots of bugs, but those can all be fixed. This sim has a lot of potential.
@@thecorporatepilotdad Your avatar is hilarious. 😂
H125 trim isn’t modeled because it doesn’t have trim in real life.
Exactly and I found this out after trying to bind the trim when there were clearly key bindings available. If they knowingly didn't put trim on the H125 because the real aircraft doesn't have trim, then why have the bindings even be available? That was the point I was trying to make.
I am so dissapointed with the Mfs 2024 Ls8-18 glider. Wings don't flex at high G turns, you can't open canopy, flight model looks simplified compared to the Mfs 2024 Dg-1001E glider. What a cheap work from Asobo studio!
I have not noticed but haven't tried gliders in MSFS 2024 yet. I did use them a lot in MSFS 2020 and who would have thought flying gliders in a flight sim could be so much fun?
I literally un-installed 2024 after 4 failed airliner missions due to the game running at 2 frames per minute on approach. Amongst many many other issues. The game is broken so badly, career mode is an actual test in patience and then a test not to throw my xbox out of the window. So I downloaded 2020 again until they fix that busted, broken, sad excuse for a new sim.
And I have to add that one doesn't understand pain until you've grinded career mode to the point where you can fly jetliners. Do you realize how many failed missions and planes I've lost due to the game being absolute shit? Doing that first airliner mission in South Korea pushed me over the edge, on approach I ended up with about 3 frames a minute, and the cockpit completely dissolved, I was just floating in an empty seat with no access to dials and on top of the 3 frames a minute, the brakes stopped working so I went off the runway and the game said "awh you failed, try harder" excuse me, YOU are the failure here. Lol
Two frames per minute? The XBox should be able to do better than that. How is your internet connection? I run an ethernet connection to my PC and to the XBOX and get 600 mbps vs 200 through the router.
@@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 I hope it gets better for you in the future. It's nice to see a comment from you. You have one of those usernames that is impossible to forget.
I honestly don't think Career mode will ever be fixed. Sure, they may iron out the bugs, but it's so gamey, and divorced from real aviation careers, I don't see a way for Asobo to fix it, given their mindset in regards to what a flight sim should be.
It would also be nice if crop dusting, carrying cargo with helos, rescue missions, etc. could be done as stand-alone tasks and not just through career mode. Already being 3/4 of the way through career mode in real life, the last thing I want to do is a poorly designed career mode in a video game that lacks realism - such as flying a traffic pattern for the private pilot checkride.
Hello you work in American airlines company or European? Less pilots will share tech knowledge on youtube so thank you yours
we chinese rare see any chinese pilot will share may be they not like play flight sim 😊
Frustration simulator! Well, actually the frustration is apparently real, while the flying is still simulated.
Well to keep the balance I’ll give you a big thumbs up for this video. As a real life pilot I can never use MSFS for any kind of serious practice or training. If I want to have fun then I’ll use the video game MSFS but for serious stuff I go to x-plane …I know some haters out there will give me grief for saying this but don’t take my word for it, I would refer you to the FAA to see which platform is approved by them…. Still enjoying MSFS, it’s lots of fun
"for serious stuff I go to x-plane". Are you kidding? if you want some 'serious stuff' buy yourself a multi-million dollars Level-D simulator like the airlines use for pilot training.
X-plane 😂😂😂😂😂
@@jorgeB767-3ERyup, just as I expected, the haters will respond. I have 25,000 hours and 42 years as an airline pilot. I have a pretty good idea of what I’m talking about and instructed in Level D simulators for over 25 years. But obviously I can’t buy one for my personal use!
@@sourfrogthanks for taking the time between your Mensa meetings to write this very thoughtful and insightful comment. Keep up the good work Captain
Be sure to tell the 12 y/o gamers that career mode will never get you a career in aviation and photographing fake giraffes will not get you a career as a photog.
Hopefully they know both of those things. I do aviation and photography and have not even touched world photographer mode.
Thumbs up on this video
Thanks for your comment despite the person who gave it a thumbs down by writing that out in a comment. To each their own, right?
They could have simply fixed all that shit in MSFS2020. I'm not buying the same goddamn game again. Yet they make a new game - the same exact game - and can't even fix anything. What a joke. This is literally an update to 2020. Nothing more. And barely that. They literally took their game, made a few changes and sold it as a new game. Pathetic.
And broke even more stuff in the process 😅
They managed to break a bunch of other things in the process 😂
AI should fix all the problems, not snail paced people 🤪
Aside from all the bugs. MSFS is sooo boring.
No ATC, No traffic. No weather.
ATC would make this sim amazing. I have used one of the paid live ATC services with real controllers and it really makes the sim come to life.
@@thecorporatepilotdad It does, and traffic injection (BATC) that matches ATC is even cooler.
@@jingle1161 There are great new pieces of software that help with ATC. I have not tried BATC or Say Intentions. Have you used both? Do you think it's worth the money to have a service like BATC or SI all the time? I am interested in trying one out soon.
@@thecorporatepilotdad for IFR/airliners BATC (one time purchase $30) Handles all traffic, Voices are ok, but if you want even better, you can buy credits. For VFR maybe SI, ($20 p.month) less scripted, but slower and more bugs. I take a monthly SI subscription every now and then, but it still needs work.