First Time Watching ALL of Star Trek - Episode 60: Is There in Truth No Beauty? (TOS S3E5)

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  • @targetaudience
    @targetaudience  Рік тому +10

    NEW to the channel? Check out ALL of our Star Trek reactions --> ua-cam.com/play/PL5Pso33oqJDh42SaJFX3kdl1ZkBea3gxc.html

    • @telephotousa
      @telephotousa Рік тому +1

      Good episode but imo there's at least one more that's better later on. If I'm not mistaken, isn't that one of the same visors they were wearing in The Menagerie when the crew was trying to blast through the elevator doors? Edit to add: Just checked...never mind, they're different.

    • @georgemartin1436
      @georgemartin1436 Рік тому +1

      I WANT THAT BOX with a bright light inside and a keyfob to operate it!

  • @WEB_78O
    @WEB_78O Рік тому +81

    "There's somebody nearby thinking of murder"
    *Everyone looks at Scotty
    I laughed out loud there. Good callback to Wolf in the Fold.
    This reaction is an all-timer

  • @jamesalexander5623
    @jamesalexander5623 Рік тому +66

    I love this Eposode. I'm an Original Trekkie. I was watching the very first night Sept. 8th 1966 "The Man Trap". I won a prize at a Star Trek Convention by stumping the "Experts". My question was, What is common to all the Characters Diana Muldaur has played in Star Trek? Answer: They were All Doctors! Dr. Ann Mulhall, Dr. Miranda Jones and Dr. Kathrine Pulaski. I Got a cute little Bear in a TNG Uniform!

    • @sarahfullerton6894
      @sarahfullerton6894 Рік тому +5

      Cool! Excellent question, and reply!

    • @jamesalexander5623
      @jamesalexander5623 Рік тому +2

      @@trekkiejunk Well Done! Did you do any Slanted Fedora Conventions? They were really good,they invented "Dinner with the Stars".

    • @rifyrafi
      @rifyrafi Рік тому +1

      Great comment. I was in many many star trek conventions, I think I remember that question., that was you?

    • @Mwoods2272
      @Mwoods2272 Рік тому +1

      She was also Thalassa, in Return to Tomorrow probably a doctor too.

    • @sarahfullerton6894
      @sarahfullerton6894 Рік тому

      ​@@Mwoods2272 Same episode where shecwas Dr..Anne Mulhull.

  • @snr9365
    @snr9365 Рік тому +25

    Spock/Kollos has one of my favorite speeches of the series:
    "How compact your bodies are. And what a variety of senses you have. This thing you call language though, most remarkable. You depend on it for so very much. But is any one of you really its master? But most of all, the aloneness. You are so alone. You live out your lives in this shell of flesh. Self-contained, separate. How lonely you are. How terribly lonely."
    What a great script -- this writer does a later episode that has some equally wonderful writing.

  • @christopherleodaniels7203
    @christopherleodaniels7203 Рік тому +67

    I freakin’ LOVE this episode. It’s soapy, melodramatic, psychedelic, and smart. And with Ralph Senensky and George Duning it’s downright beautiful to look at and listen to.

    • @mikephillips8810
      @mikephillips8810 Рік тому +2

      All ST:TOS episodes are melodramatic! Good points you list though.

    • @jovetj
      @jovetj 10 місяців тому

      @@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 -SPOILERS!-

  • @nathanielreik6617
    @nathanielreik6617 Рік тому +39

    I think an interesting hint towards Miranda’s blindness is the fact that she asked to touch the flowers since she can’t really admire how they look.

    • @anthonybernacchi2732
      @anthonybernacchi2732 Рік тому +5

      She's also disappointed to notice that the first group of flowers she comes to have no fragrance.

    • @dolphinsrr
      @dolphinsrr Рік тому

      @@anthonybernacchi2732 that has nothing to do with blindness. Smell is different aduh

    • @dolphinsrr
      @dolphinsrr Рік тому +1

      The hint is when she went into the room and seen him without the glasses.

  • @openfor45
    @openfor45 Рік тому +27

    This a stand-out episode! The reveal that Miranda is BLIND catches everyone, & Bones true to his profession respected her privacy!! Was very confident you both would enjoy this episode. See ya in the next one!!

  • @ravenwind1062
    @ravenwind1062 Рік тому +49

    Diana Muldar not only played a different character in an earlier episode, she will play yet a 3rd, this time reoccurring character, in ST:TNG some 20 years later. Its important to note the introduction of the IDIC. It was introduced purely to sell merchandise to the fans. Yes, this is where it pretty much it all started for weal or for woe: Merchandising. Gotta say your reactions sometimes surprise me but hey! IDIC Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. If you liked all the exact same stuff I did, you'd be me...and that would be awkward.

    • @blanetalk
      @blanetalk Рік тому +2

      And they sold a crap-ton of them!

    • @kingdave31
      @kingdave31 Рік тому +4

      Roddenberry's mail-order business was kind of genius. Mostly they sold the stuff that the production threw in the trash like old script copies and film clips from the cutting room floor. Everyone thought that stuff was junk, only Roddenberry realized that fans would happily pay for it. The IDIC medallion was their first "original" piece of merchandise. Shatner and Nimoy refused to do the scene until it was rewritten to integrate smoothly with the story and not just be obvious product placement.

    • @randallwong7196
      @randallwong7196 Рік тому +2

      Merchandising!

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 Рік тому +7

      I still think the IDIC is a beautiful concept, and very Vulcan.

    • @zoppie
      @zoppie Рік тому +3

      Nimoy wore the IDIC under protest. He said Vulcans wouldn't wear jewelry. Shatner joined this protest. My suspicion is that their real problem was that Roddenberry didn't cut either of them into the profits. Years later, I would catch them both on one of the home shopping channels pushing Trek merch. After Roddenberry's dismissal from the film franchise, you can see a huge IDIC symbol in Spock's quarters. Guess Nimoy forgot that he was supposed to be protesting against it.🤔

  • @dlove032002
    @dlove032002 Рік тому +21

    Whenever Diana Muldaur is on Trek, she’s a doctor. Dr. Ann Mulhall, Dr. Miranda Jones, & Dr. Katherine Pulaski. Great actress.

    • @DocMicrowave
      @DocMicrowave 11 місяців тому +1

      Indeed.
      And in the two TOS episodes she was in, Spock gets possessed.

  • @ls1476
    @ls1476 Рік тому +56

    IMO this is one of the best written TOS episodes with one of the best female characters. You can tell it was written by a woman who was drawing on a lot of personal experiences in her field! She wasn't actually a professional writer but instead a librarian and academic who sent in an unsolicited script and got it accepted! It has a very modern outlook.

    • @willgray7272
      @willgray7272 Рік тому +3

      Yep. And it appears she was only interested in writing for ST (she was a fan). She never wrote another script.

    • @sarahfullerton6894
      @sarahfullerton6894 Рік тому +3

      ​​@@willgray7272 , actually I think she wrote the exceptional episode, " "All Our Yesterdays", with the library, and librarian, Mr.Atoz. (A to Z) Great name for a librarian, don't look think??

    • @willgray7272
      @willgray7272 Рік тому +2

      @@sarahfullerton6894 She did. And then never wrote another thing for TV. Apparently, all she wanted to do was write for Star Trek. Kinda cool. I know Frieberger gets a lot of heat for the third season, but one really cool thing he did was hire more female writers.

  • @willgray7272
    @willgray7272 Рік тому +45

    Jean Lisette Aroeste was a librarian at UCLA (and formerly at Harvard). She was a ST fan and sent this in as an unsolicited script. She also wrote the penultimate episode of the series , All Our Yesterdays. Those two episodes of ST are the sum total of her television writing career. After UCLA she finished her library career at Princeton.

    • @sarahfullerton6894
      @sarahfullerton6894 Рік тому +6

      Yes, both are great episodes, but "All Our Yesterdays " is terrific. I'm had forgotten the reveal about Miranda being blind!
      I just watched it last night.
      Edit: After watching your review of "Turnabout Intruder", I have seen it in a new light. You guys are right, it is a good episode! Thanks!
      And I love the Librarian's name, in "All Our Yesterdays". So, so clever!

    • @snr9365
      @snr9365 Рік тому +10

      She's honestly one of my favorite writers of the show. Her two episodes were my fave of season 3 before I even realized they were both hers.

    • @willgray7272
      @willgray7272 Рік тому +2

      @@sarahfullerton6894 Yeah. The final episode is a real stinker. One of the problems with this season generally, but especially toward the end, is that everyone knew they were getting canceled, and both the production and acting reflect this - Shatner takes scenery chewing to undreamed of heights and Nimoy looks bored.

    • @willgray7272
      @willgray7272 Рік тому +2

      @@sarahfullerton6894 I just watched "All Our Yesterdays"...yesterday. It was good, and the reduced budget really didn't hurt it too much. The one thing I miss in these later episodes is Jerry Finnerman's cinematography. Al Francis was good (and, coincidentally, was a director of photography on "T.J. Hooker"), but a lot more prosaic in his approach.

    • @bobbuethe1477
      @bobbuethe1477 Рік тому +4

      Trivia fact: "All Our Yesterdays" was the only episode of the series that had no interior Enterprise scenes.

  • @JacobStJules
    @JacobStJules Рік тому +24

    Just really wanted to thank you guys for doing this. Star Trek means a lot to me, and to relive all these episodes with you is so great. Thank you so much.

  • @snr9365
    @snr9365 Рік тому +28

    To me, Miranda Jones is THE best written female character in the series. Very strong, but also flawed. Really a fully realized personality. And the actress is great.

    • @GeraldWalls
      @GeraldWalls Рік тому +2

      The actress also played Dr. Polaski in The Next Generation season 2.

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 Рік тому +2

      @@GeraldWalls And don’t forget her star turn in L A Law. For such a big show, it’s completely disappeared now.

    • @DocMicrowave
      @DocMicrowave 11 місяців тому +1

      Fully agree!

  • @babychannel8758
    @babychannel8758 Рік тому +11

    Ralph Senensky did the preparation for and directed 3 days of shooting on The Tholian Web which is my favorite third season episode.

  • @shawnfike2910
    @shawnfike2910 Рік тому +8

    Ah, yes - the IDIC. First attempt at deliberate in-show merch, if I'm not mistaken. Though I do love the sentiment it means to convey.

  • @nathanfitzgerald6651
    @nathanfitzgerald6651 Рік тому +11

    The upcoming "Spectre of the Gun" is one of the best of season 3. Because it's so damn surreal it feels most like an ep. of The Twilight Zone. No spoilers, Leonard Nimoy's acting was sooo hypnotic with the mind-melding at the end. I'll leave it at that.

  • @Asher8328
    @Asher8328 Рік тому +11

    Since you guys brought up the medal, there is an interesting story behind it. Gene did personally insert it into the story, and there's little doubt that he did it because he wanted to sell replicas to the fans. Shatner and Nimoy were so upset that they both flat out refused to shoot scenes about it, because they didn't want to be involved with this obvious merchandising ploy.
    That last part confused me for many, many years, because it still fits in well with the episode and has a ST feel to it, so why get so upset that Gene wanted to make a few bucks off it as well? What I only found out recently was that Gene had originally shoehorned it into "Spock's Brain," with some lame dialogue where someone (probably Kirk) notices Spock wearing the medallion and then they have pointless conversation about it. After Shatner and Nimoy refused to shoot the scene, Gene relented, only to bring it back into this episode. Which is fine by me, and apparently with the actors as well, since it looks cool and is cool, and fits in perfectly with the show.

    • @mikephillips8810
      @mikephillips8810 Рік тому +2

      It does fit well in this show, with the dinner scene in their own traditions to wear something personal to them. Even though it was a merchandising gimmick.

  • @fredklein3829
    @fredklein3829 Рік тому +22

    When I was 14, this became my favourite episode for several months. My parents also sent me to a psychiatrist the same year as they feared I was enjoying Star Trek too much and it was too meaningful for me.

    • @targetaudience
      @targetaudience  Рік тому +10

      Well this comment escalated quickly

    • @fredklein3829
      @fredklein3829 Рік тому +5

      @@targetaudience I outsmarted them all and became a professional librarian, just like the author of this episode. If you liked her writing here, you should enjoy ''All Our Yesterdays'' as well, coming up at the end of season 3.

    • @clasicradiolover
      @clasicradiolover Рік тому +3

      I'm glad my parents didn't have that attitude. I discovered Star Trek in reruns in the 70s. I actually got most of my family interested in this show Dad both brothers and sister. Now my wife.

    • @mikejankowski6321
      @mikejankowski6321 Рік тому +7

      My mother felt she had to remind me that Star Trek wasn't real. To which I would reply, "Yes, it is. It's a real TV show!"
      Funny how so many people went into STEM fields because they were fans, and then brought some of that fiction to life. (Aeronautical Engineer here.)

    • @sarahfullerton6894
      @sarahfullerton6894 Рік тому +2

      @@fredklein3829 great episode. I love the librarian's name, hahaha 😆

  • @groversald
    @groversald Рік тому +9

    Ralph Senensky's 100th birthday is this May 1!

  • @medicman65
    @medicman65 Рік тому +9

    I really enjoy your takes on Star Trek. I've been watching Star Trek since it first came out. I was a little kid and didn't get the nuances, so since then, my opinion has been colored by the views of a little kid. I alway's thought this episode was kind of boring, and didn't see the greatness you guys appreciate. Thank you for bringing a whole new dimension to the experience.

  • @DocMicrowave
    @DocMicrowave 11 місяців тому +3

    Funny thing about Diana Muldaur. In the two episodes she was in, both Episodes involved Spock being possessed by a questionable being.

  • @michaelappleton705
    @michaelappleton705 Рік тому +8

    Ralph Senensky is still alive at the ripe old age of 99. He turns 100 in May! You should send him your compliments.

  • @AT4W
    @AT4W Рік тому +2

    Never really had any feelings about this episode one way or another, but man the constant talk about the alien being ugly is kind of annoying. XD
    Otherwise, next two episodes are great ones! Spectre of the Gun in particular is a personal favorite (one that many are baffled by my like of it above others). Hopefully you enjoy it, too!

  • @danjsilve
    @danjsilve Рік тому +7

    The Tholian Web. All our Yesterday’s are my favourites from S3. Wink of an eye is up there too.

  • @tinkinc85
    @tinkinc85 Рік тому +11

    In my top 3 episodes of all TOS. Love Alex's lol reaction . Btw..kirk wasn't in danger from the Medusan in the transporter because he never took his eyes off Miranda. Also the IDIC pin was an attempt by Gene Roddenberry to sell merchandise.

    • @targetaudience
      @targetaudience  Рік тому +5

      Might be in our Top 3 as well!

    • @dolphinsrr
      @dolphinsrr Рік тому

      For me it was a poor editing job on kirk.

  • @togroglog2457
    @togroglog2457 Рік тому +9

    One of my favorites out of the whole franchise, just a great episode.

  • @willgray7272
    @willgray7272 Рік тому +10

    Definitely one of the better episodes this season. Senensky's episodes are always very sensitive and well done. One of the better aspects of this season overall is there are more "sci-fi" concepts, even if they're not pulled off all that well some of the time. I mean, this episode features a guy who lives in a box!

  • @kevenpinder7025
    @kevenpinder7025 Рік тому +5

    Telepath?...or an Empath,...oooh! Foreshadowing.

  • @Asher8328
    @Asher8328 Рік тому +12

    There are still some good episodes to come in S3, but this is definitely one of the better ones.

  • @mego73
    @mego73 Рік тому +15

    For sure, it's a stand out episode. Ralph S. Was pretty upset though at whoever edited the final scene, keeping Kirk in the transporter room visorless when they were beamed out. The IDIC symbol that Spock wears was created by Gene Roddenberry and many think it was because at the time he was starting up a company to sell Star Trek stuff and wanted to sell a pendant of some type associated with the show. So, he came up with that and put some lore behind it. A bit of product placement.

    • @ericjette2435
      @ericjette2435 Рік тому +5

      According to Memory Alpha, the actors were outraged by Roddenberry's insertion of the Vulcan IDIC symbol into this episode, particularly Leonard Nimoy, "who saw it as a cheap ploy to sell replica merchandise to fans." As a compromise, the dinner scene was rewritten so that the symbol was used less prominently. Having said that, I quite like the Vulcan IDIC as a concept: "The glory of creation is in its infinite diversity...and the ways our differences combine to create meaning and beauty." (I also used to have an IDIC keychain.) I incorporated the IDIC into my personal philosophy a long time ago--people different from me enrich the world and add to it's beauty, so I choose to treat them with respect, humility, and compassion, and to enjoy and appreciate what they have to offer and what I can learn from them.

    • @mego73
      @mego73 Рік тому +1

      @@trekkiejunk it was Lincoln Enterprises but I think he came up with Lincoln after the show was cancelled. I believe it was a Star Trek mail order thing before that.

    • @dolphinsrr
      @dolphinsrr Рік тому

      @@ericjette2435 why would the actors even care if they used the idic for merchandise.? That's not their problem.

  • @landline00
    @landline00 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm glad you guys get this episode! As an adult, this has become one of my favorites. I love the allegory of an externally beautiful woman who is ugly on the inside, and an externally ugly alien who is beautiful on the inside. Also, Spock/Kollos' eloquent remarks on the nature of our aloneness and the limitations of language.

  • @ammaleslie509
    @ammaleslie509 Рік тому +3

    Im sorry you cut Spock's speech sbout loneliness

  • @mateolatosa215
    @mateolatosa215 Рік тому +5

    If you notice, the episodes with Senensky as director often have beautiful scores by composer George Duning.

  • @jurassickaiju14
    @jurassickaiju14 Рік тому +2

    The Medusans are such a neat race in a universe of mostly humanoid-species. Wish they'd show up more often. I haven't seen Prodigy yet, but I like that one is a main supporting character.

  • @scgreek1114
    @scgreek1114 Рік тому +4

    The Star Fleet admirals we're so impressed by Diana Muldaur they promoted her to Chief Medical Officer for TNG!
    Btw, she's 84 and still kicking!

  • @bunnytails
    @bunnytails 29 днів тому +1

    I laughed so much with you guys this episode! You two are a pleasure. And this is also one of my favorites of this season so far. Those camera shots!!!

  • @erwinquiachon8054
    @erwinquiachon8054 Рік тому +9

    Your reviews keep getting better. Very thorough.

  • @dep1701
    @dep1701 Рік тому +4

    So glad you guys enjoyed this episode. As a kid I didn’t like it much, but as I grew up I began to appreciate the depths of the performances more and more. It’s become one of my favorites as well.

  • @vincentsaia6545
    @vincentsaia6545 Рік тому +3

    I disagree with Kirk. Uhura is the most beautiful woman ever to grace a starship

  • @MorbidMind123
    @MorbidMind123 11 місяців тому +2

    Is Miranda's actress also Dr Pulaski's from TNG?

  • @portland-182
    @portland-182 Рік тому +5

    A re-watch knowing Miranda is blind highlights Diana Muldaur's excellent acting.

  • @brettharris7696
    @brettharris7696 Рік тому +5

    Your love of his work has encouraged me to go back and re-evaluate Ralph’s direction. Previously I neither loved nor hated RS’s turns at the wheel, but it appears he’s flown under my radar for all those years.

  • @kevenpinder7025
    @kevenpinder7025 Рік тому +5

    I'm not certain about the timing, but there was a company formed, Lincoln Enterprises, to enable Roddenberry to $ in on the show. They sold copies of scripts, 35mm film cells from the cutting room floor and minor prop duplicates like the fabric division uniform badges. They also sold the IDIC badges, which might make them one of the earliest product tie-ins ever.

  • @pineconey
    @pineconey 10 місяців тому +2

    Yeah, some rare shots this ep. that show parts of the bridge we don't usually see.

  • @maxshenkwrites
    @maxshenkwrites Рік тому +5

    10:05 = greatest TREK transition ever. Hilarious and perfect.
    Thank you for reminding me how great this episode was... I haven't seen this one in years.

  • @monsterhobbies
    @monsterhobbies Рік тому +3

    The Medusian is not "The Box", but a creature that lives in the box so that no one can see it and go crazy.
    I do love the fish eye lens they use to denote who is crazy though.

  • @garanceadrosehn9691
    @garanceadrosehn9691 Рік тому +4

    In addition to having important plot points introduced early, those scenes make total sense on their own when they're introduced. Maybe a few things where the viewer goes "well, that was a little odd", but nothing where there's some total non-sequitur where the viewer goes "WTF was that scene about?". You don't suspect that the scene is an important setup, so when the big reveal does come you never see it coming.

  • @PsychedelicChameleon
    @PsychedelicChameleon Рік тому +3

    I like this actress very much.

  • @brianalambert1192
    @brianalambert1192 Рік тому +3

    Once you know Miranda is blind, if you rewatch the episode, you can tell her eyes aren't focusing the way they should. I'm guessing that it's not from special contacts like for Charlie Cox in Daredevil, but I'm guessing it's either lighting to force her pupils to s certain point, or that the actress was forcing herself not to focus on what she was looking at

  • @indetigersscifireview4360
    @indetigersscifireview4360 Рік тому +3

    This is another excellent episode for Star Trek and Diana Muldaur who is talented and beautiful! You are recognizing the amazing writing abilities that make this show more than just a sci fi show. There are so many examples of this nuanced writing in Trek that you can, years and many rewatches later, find something new in the story that you hadn't picked up on before. Like in Squire of Gothos when Treylane says you may hide anywhere in the forest and I shall seek you out! My God he literally says let's play hide and seek and it goes right past you, then Treylane is revealed to be a child. Another example is Matt Decker in The Doomsday Machine, and his habit of playing with the floppy disks, a call back to the movie The Caine Mutiny. It was just pointed out to me the color of the disks are gold and green, the same colors as Decker and Kirk's shirts in the episode. The subtlety of the writers in the original series is second to none.

  • @bettyleeist
    @bettyleeist Рік тому +1

    The music 🎶 is lovely to hear!And,Ralph Senensky was my parent’s friend at;Drake University.(in;Des Moines,Iowa).Yes,he directed a lot of Star ⭐️ Trek episode’s!I agree,this is a great 👍 episode of the serie’s!My favorite episode of all time was;What are little girl’s made of?Live long and prosper,folk’s!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @davide123
    @davide123 Рік тому +7

    What do you think about Miranda's scream when she went in to ask Kollos about mind-melding with him to rescue the ship? I like those kind of bits thrown in to make you wonder.
    Have you thought about watching "The Prisoner"? It's a unique series and it's only 17 episodes.

    • @ericjette2435
      @ericjette2435 Рік тому +1

      Oh, I'll second that. I first became curious about the show when I was in college, back in the 1990s, but had no access to it for the longest time. I finally watched it a couple of years ago when it became available to stream on Amazon Prime--currently, it's available to stream on Tubi, the Roku channel, and a few other sites.

    • @anthonyleecollins9319
      @anthonyleecollins9319 Рік тому +4

      Yes, please watch The Prisoner. One of my all-time favorite TV shows, and some interesting similarities to ST (they're from the same time period), though they're very different shows.

    • @dq405
      @dq405 Рік тому +1

      I'd also like to recommend THE PRISONER. It's unforgettable.

  • @sarahfullerton6894
    @sarahfullerton6894 Рік тому +3

    I really enjoy how Alex is able to predict dialog, and when Josh tips his ear to await Bones' declaration of Marvic, "He's dead, Jim!"

  • @jamesodonnell3636
    @jamesodonnell3636 Рік тому +1

    Not my very favorite episode of the series -- not with "Amok Time," "The Immunity Syndrome," and "Operation: Annihilate!" out there (among others) -- but I flat-out *love* this episode. It really is excellent, for all the reasons you elucidated, TA. Great reaction! I appreciate all of the astute and funny comments along the way, and how much I can identify with your first viewing. Thanks for choosing ST TOS and doing it justice. It's such a great, bad, weird, bold, erratic, unique, slightly-idealistic, and ultimately marvelous experience. There's nothing quite like it.
    Personally, I didn't give this show a chance until I was in my late twenties, but I've loved it ever since, ENORMOUS warts, and all :-)

  • @renezescribe1229
    @renezescribe1229 Рік тому +1

    Re-watching Star Trek over the years, as you mature, you find new layers and details you hadn't considered before, Iike going through a beautifly complex ZoomQuilt.

  • @dirtyburd71
    @dirtyburd71 Рік тому +3

    The third season gets a bad rap. It does contain a some of CLASSIC episodes! Still some gems to come. By the way, ST-TNG hails the return of Diana Muldaur. Keep an eye out for her.

  • @ChrisS-no3ft
    @ChrisS-no3ft Рік тому +1

    Alex, Josh, I LOVED this review. I’ve always liked this episode, but you guys made me LOVE IT! Why you ask? For just the reason you mentioned. We do all have different opinions. But thats what makes Star Trek special. Thats what makes it unique. It provokes a discussion. Gives you something to think about. I haven’t always agreed with your opinions, but in those cases, you gave me an alternate perspective that swayed me. Thank you for that. And thank you for doing STAR TREK. The world wouldn’t be the same without it.

  • @Vulcanerd
    @Vulcanerd Рік тому +3

    Loved Josh and Alex’s anticipation of Bones’ famous line 😄

  • @williamblakehall5566
    @williamblakehall5566 Рік тому +6

    An entirely different spin on the theme "Beauty and Beast." Miranda is rather like Daredevil, blind but so well compensated that she can still get around excellently. I greatly appreciated your bringing fresh eyes to this, as I'm afraid I mainly just remembered our friend-zoned Marvick freaking out so melodramatically, but you're right, there's so much else going on here, including the Vulcan IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations). One great discovery I just made: episode titles usually rip off Shakespeare, but "Is There in Truth No Beauty?" is in fact a line from a poem called "Jordan" by one George Herbert. (Can we all agree that Josh was -- wait for it -- blindsided?) Yeah, I had shelved this one away as rather wacked-out -- and I still feel that way -- but this rewatch was a big help to me. Happily, I think at least the next four episodes are fairly solid, each in their own way. Thanks, TA. Steady as she goes, warp factor two.

    • @dolphinsrr
      @dolphinsrr Рік тому

      I felt the same comparison about daredevil.

  • @TheRealVolk
    @TheRealVolk Рік тому +2

    The experimentation with the wide angle lens, to portray a skewed pov, was quite brilliant, considering most people at the time had probably never seen video footage shot through one, making the unnatural visuals stand out even more.

  • @reactormator
    @reactormator Рік тому +1

    It is so obvious that Nimoy had a cold when they shot this episode! It makes me crazy! The penultimate, or maybe even final, episode of Buffy The Vampire Slayer has the same problem. Sarah Michelle Gellar has a RAGING cold and you can hear it in her voice. I dunno WHY they didn't ADR it.
    I was three when Star Trek began it's truncated 5 year journey. I have always loved Star Trek! From the time I was shorter than the TV console and thought it was called "Star Track". I had to eventually look up the word "trek" when I was older because that word is not used in Indiana, where I'm from. ANYWAY!

  • @auckalukaum
    @auckalukaum Рік тому +2

    I might have mentioned this in comment to an earlier reaction, but Ralph Senesky is still alive and I bet he'd love to get some fan mail!

  • @edwardroneill
    @edwardroneill Рік тому +1

    I'm surprised you don't address the main reason this episode is head-and-shoulders above many others.
    You two very astutely complain about the repetitiveness of many episodes: the Enterprise ignores its directive not to intervene; they basically teach people that violence is not the answer; there's a powerful being or beings that is stopped when they are made to face a contradiction.
    All spot-on.
    So what is the show about? As a whole? What's the BEST thing ST is about? It's what this episode is about.
    Diversity. Difference is good. No one should be in charge, should impose their norms on others. That's why violence is wrong. That's why the show is weaker when the Enterprise goes around interfering and teaching tidy second-grade moral lessons. In the better episodes, the crew learns more than teaching. ("Shore Leave," for instance.) Or the crew must come to recognize their own imperfections, their own humanity, the limits on their strengths, the suffering common to all. (That's "The City on the Edge of Forever.")
    This episode says it flat out: "The glory of creation is in its infinity diversity....And the ways our differences combine to make meaning and beauty." It's on-the-nose, but it's earned. The 'ugly' creature with navigational prowess merely exposes the shortcomings of others. (It's a catalyst, not a character.) Spock, being more rational, overcomes the alien's ugliness and experiences joy in contacting a higher form of intelligence. We've SEEN it, it's why he forgot the visor, so his line is valid. Miranda grows and changes, and so the insight is connected to her character: she's not just a mouthpiece for the writers.
    I watched the whole show as a child with my family. And then I saw all the episodes in reruns during my teen years. I feel lucky to have lived with the show for so long. And I'm enjoying re-experiencing it with you. It's a treat.

  • @aliceharper707
    @aliceharper707 Рік тому +1

    Years ago I was in a Star Trek club in Phoenix called the United federation of Phoenix. They are still active and have been for probably 40 years. But anyway when we would have a meeting there was always a potluck and a different person every meeting would be in charge of bringing the club soda cooler with all the drinks in it. It was dubbed the Medusan ambassador. Lol😂

  • @christopherelwood8525
    @christopherelwood8525 Рік тому +6

    You guys have really good memories about the previous guest stars.

  • @Maltiris
    @Maltiris Рік тому +4

    I'll be interested to see what they think of The Tholian Web. My Favorite episode of season 3.

  • @peterkoester7358
    @peterkoester7358 Рік тому +1

    You commented on the prominence of the Vulcan IDIC emblem in this episode. The story behind it is Gene Roddenberry could see the writing on the wall that Star Trek was likely not going to survive beyond a third season. He already had a memorabilia company he ran on the side (one of the first Hollywood side-hustles?) called Lincoln Enterprises where he sold facsimiles of Star Trek episode scripts and designs for the uniform costumes, and he hoped that by creating an emblem he could copyright that was featured prominently on the show, he could then reproduce it and sell it through Lincoln and make more money on the side.
    The plan worked, because IDICs became a staple of Star Trek conventions for the next 50+ years! There is even a stylized IDIC tapestry featured in Spock's quarters in The Wrath of Khan.

  • @Whalewraith
    @Whalewraith 11 місяців тому +1

    The thing about Star Trek that maybe you as younger guys are missing is the relevance of episodes. You hated Omega Glory but it was Roddenberys way of commenting on vietnam. The diversity may have seemed token to you but Daystroms casting in the ultimate computer was ground breaking. Doomsday machine 1st really intense space battle ever etcetera. Wait until you get to the white/black half face guys. They couldn't say what they wanted in a normal show but in Trek they got away with making there point.

  • @tarascholfield5887
    @tarascholfield5887 Рік тому +6

    Glad you loved the epi. It is one of my favs tooo. Diana Muldar is sooo good in this epi. I remember the first time i saw this one and i was able to figure out she was blind, sorta by the way she looks around etc. But it is a really neat when they reveal it. There aren't too many ST TOS epis like this. You are almost at my fav TOS episode, The Empath, (personally i feel it is one of the best TOS epis ever written) , Season 3 is treated wrongly, it has alot of good epis. All i can say is keep an open mind. (and if and when you rewatch spock's brain it's fun to watch it and add other words in etc, ), I've watched Star trek since i was 5 and I'll be 41 this year.

    • @targetaudience
      @targetaudience  Рік тому +2

      Possibly the best reveal!

    • @jefetters7182
      @jefetters7182 Рік тому +3

      I also love The Empath but it gets a bad rap online. This one is great too.

    • @katoracle
      @katoracle Рік тому +3

      @@jefetters7182 My favourite episode of TOS. It is set up like a play, and very minimal, but it completely cements the relationship between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. It also has one of the top tier Kirk Speeches.

  • @davidclough3951
    @davidclough3951 Рік тому +1

    It's not a bad episode, but not one of my favorites. Back in the day I had bought roughly half the episodes on VHS, then later when it was on TV where I lived again, I tried to record the rest. Believe there's only 2 episodes I don't have on VHS. Know this is one as it was on a tape by itself and I needed to record something, so it got recorded over... BTW, the visor on TNG character you referred to is bananas...

  • @DocMicrowave
    @DocMicrowave 11 місяців тому +1

    One of my favorite episodes. Very character driven.
    That ending scene in the transporter room always caught me as well.
    Presumably the use of the Visor was to prevent any accidental exposure to Kollos during transport. Also limiting it to just one person in the Transport room during.
    The fact that Kirk was in there, and without a Visor just shows how badass he is!

  • @bradchoi9679
    @bradchoi9679 Рік тому +5

    Not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but the Arboretum was first shown in "The Man Trap". Yeoman Rand brings Sulu lunch there. Remember the hokey hand flower? LOL!!

    • @targetaudience
      @targetaudience  Рік тому +2

      True!

    • @karidrgn
      @karidrgn Рік тому

      That flower is sulus in his quarters as one of his interests is botany. You see this on Shore leave.

  • @akw141
    @akw141 Рік тому +1

    Though I guess it does fit the theme of the story, I kind of wondered from the first time I saw this why they were falling all over themselves praising Miranda. Not that she's unattractive, but it seems pretty heavy handed writing. Maybe it's just to drive the title theme home, she's pretty outside but has some ugliness inside her. I did think this episode had some interesting and unique ideas, like the Medusans, and the what is beauty theme. Oh, and the cheap IDIC marketing thing (severely cut down from Roddenberry's original, as I understand) seems so out of place I literally didn't remember it until watching reruns.

  • @t.duchene4973
    @t.duchene4973 3 місяці тому +1

    Did you all notice that actress who plays Miranda is Doctor Pulaski in Season 2 of TNG?

  • @Dana-sl8gv
    @Dana-sl8gv Рік тому +1

    At some point you really should react to The Wrath of Khan....I'll guarantee you will tear up.

  • @richwagener
    @richwagener Рік тому +2

    I’m currently watching (of all things), the Waltons and Ralph Senensky directed 12 episodes of that show. Which I think speaks to its quality. May not be your cup of tea, but certainly a quality show.

    • @ralphsenensky8484
      @ralphsenensky8484 Рік тому

      Thank you for bringing this up. For some reason THE WALTONS has a reputation of bing a soft series. Of my 200 directed episodes I consider my work on THE WALTONS to be at the top. of my personal favorite work!

    • @richwagener
      @richwagener Рік тому +1

      @@ralphsenensky8484 It’s an amazing show that I was aware of growing up but never took the time to appreciate. Now at age 57 my wife and I are watching them together (sometimes supplemented by Judy Norton’s UA-cam channel). I think my expectations were something less progressive than the show actually was. Ralph Waite and Michael Learned were so great with the young cast. Also, of course great directors.

  • @greenbrown7776
    @greenbrown7776 Рік тому +1

    Also, this introduces IDIC. It's become a life philosophy to me.

  • @georgemartin1436
    @georgemartin1436 Рік тому +1

    I WANT THAT BOX with a bright light inside and a keyfob to operate it!

  • @richardb6260
    @richardb6260 Рік тому +4

    I think the garden area is same room we saw in the very first episode where Janice visits Sulu where he's tending the plants and one of them reacts to the salt creature disguised as a crew member.
    Whenever someone complains that Star Trek: Discovery is too woke and that the original series wasn't woke (which is absurd), I always bring up the IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations). Surely there isn't a more "woke" concept. Besides, there are so many other more valid reasons not to like Discovery.

    • @davide123
      @davide123 Рік тому

      There was also a similar area in the previous episode, "And the Children Shall Lead."

  • @donovanbradford8231
    @donovanbradford8231 5 місяців тому +1

    While it is a late comment yes in TOS many guest stars would pop up in at least two episodes some might be a whole season apart but if your episode did well chances are they beought you back for at least one more episode. And that's not including the background characters like Leslie and Hadley who were stand in characters if certain areas could be filled.

  • @nancyomalley6286
    @nancyomalley6286 Рік тому +1

    Diana Muldaur also played Dr. Kate Pulaski in the second season of Star Trek TNG!

  • @michaelhall2709
    @michaelhall2709 10 місяців тому +1

    Assuming your feelings about this episode didn’t change, I can only say that I entirely agree. It’s not perfect, but is nevertheless my favorite episode of the third season, and by a considerable margin.

  • @markfilla9305
    @markfilla9305 Рік тому +3

    Great reaction guys! Yep - this is a good one. I'd forgotten that her character was actually blind!

  • @bettyleeist
    @bettyleeist Рік тому +1

    This was written by a Librarian?I didn’t know this!Thank’s for telling us!

  • @jollyjohnthepirate3168
    @jollyjohnthepirate3168 Рік тому +2

    Fish eye lens and Dutch angles denote insanity.

  • @manservantchris
    @manservantchris Рік тому +3

    Just leaving a ❤ to help out the algorithm.

  • @artboymoy
    @artboymoy Рік тому +4

    This was a really good episode I probably haven't seen enough in my older years. Great catch on the return of Diane Muldar. We have the Vulcan IDIC and it's great to see it discussed here. It's kinda what Trek is all about. The use of the wide angle lens is cool and won't be the lasts time we see it. Happy to see you guys enjoyed it. I don't know if this is in my top 10 because I hold that for a later episode this season.

  • @Analog_Mind47
    @Analog_Mind47 Рік тому +2

    I guess in a round-about way, Miranda & Jordi (Mr. Reading Rainbow) are related. Both of them are Blind & Jordi's visor uses a similar technology to Miranda's dress that allows him to see

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield Рік тому +5

    There's so much to like about this episode, glad you guys also enjoyed it

  • @gailseatonhumbert
    @gailseatonhumbert 11 місяців тому +1

    Scotty is wearing a tartan. Traditional Scottish male outfit. If you 2 ever do any of the Outlander series you will see it alot.

  • @paulhughes9223
    @paulhughes9223 Рік тому +4

    The IDIC medallion was a merchandise plug from Roddenberry.

  • @xander66644
    @xander66644 Рік тому +5

    I forgot about this episode. This may be your favorite episode of this season for both of you. With the exception of "Whom Gods Destory," "Specter of the Gun" (although plot points are forced), and "Wink of and Eye," there may not be any other episodes to compare this one to. Many critics feel "The Enterprise Incident" is the best/favorite episode of season 3. So, I will bet the two of you will definitely say that this is your favorite episode of season 3.

    • @sarahfullerton6894
      @sarahfullerton6894 Рік тому +2

      "All Our Yesterdays " could be quite the contender, though.

    • @xander66644
      @xander66644 Рік тому

      @@sarahfullerton6894 Not sure.

    • @robphillips1797
      @robphillips1797 Рік тому

      @Sarah Fullerton All our Yesterdays is one of the best episodes of the entire series. I think it's superior to City on the edge of Forever. Kinda heartbreaking.

  • @widescr
    @widescr Рік тому +1

    sounds like you know the real-life
    history behind the IDIC

  • @caseyanne967
    @caseyanne967 Рік тому +2

    I loved your response to the reveal of Miranda being blind! Diana Muldar gave a great performance with the subtle way that her eyes seem unfocused at times, hinting at her blindness, but not noticeable until you watch a second time. A very good ep. Some of top favorites are later on in the season and there's plenty of other good ones, too (mixed in with a few duds of course, lol).

  • @herbertkeithmiller
    @herbertkeithmiller Рік тому +1

    When the box opens for the first time at 4:28 we'll finally get to see what's in the briefcase from Pulp Fiction

  • @SUK2293
    @SUK2293 Рік тому +1

    The director of this episode was David Lynch's father.

  • @lilacmist04
    @lilacmist04 Рік тому +3

    This is one of my favorites too. It’s so much fun watching TOS with you both!

  • @samsonau8205
    @samsonau8205 Рік тому +1

    I didn't like this episode as a kid, but I enjoy it more and more as I rewatch it over time.

  • @isakkleppe1761
    @isakkleppe1761 Рік тому +1

    Are you guys planning on watching the movies after

  • @greenbrown7776
    @greenbrown7776 Рік тому +1

    S3 was so weird. Mostly in a bad way. But this was weird in a superb way.