Apple River stabbing trial: Nicolae Miu on the stand (Full morning testimony)
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Nicolae Miu takes the stand in his own defense on charges of killing one and injuring four others on the Apple River in 2022.
Watch the first part of Miu's afternoon testimony here: • Apple River stabbing t...
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Praying for Mr. Mui . He went to Apple River to go tubing with friends. A friend lost his phone so he offers to look for it. He ends up getting taunted and physically abused by a large group of drunk, high, 17 and 18 year-olds.! I saw one comment that said stupidly “if he’s so out of shape why was he tubing”! What a stupid comment. The video shows the taunting and the physical abuse, at one point one of the drunkards actually had his hands arounds Mr. Mui’s neck! This is absolutely a case of self-defense! What person in their right mind taunts and physically attacks a man that is just looking for a cell phone in the water!!! They should have helped him. A man with a recent quadruple bypass, back surgery and he’s not supposed to feel vulnerable???? Give me a freaking break! This large group of young adults taunted him, ganged up on him, physically pushed him and at one point one had his hands around his neck!! The one taking the video didn’t stop even when his friends were bleeding….this tells me he only cared about getting a video to post online! In fact, he was so out of it, in the video he states “am I awake or dreaming?” I feel so bad for Mr. Mui. These drunk obnoxious older kids are totally at fault here! Too bad their friend had to die because of them. And they are NOT children as one commentor said.
Absolutely agree with you. And I feel bad for what he went through.
Its the worst excuse of a comment. If anything, if you are out of shape, going into nature, breathing the fresh air is great for the body and mind. He had every reason to be there. Its nobody business on what physical activities he wants to do.
You condone killing.
Everything you said is so true. I agree with you 100 percent and I am surprised they even brought this to trial. TBH. The judge should have dismissed it, in my opinion.
1) the phone was in a water proof baggie that would float on top of the water.
2) the phone was insured
3) no one in miu’s group wanted him to look for the phone because it was insured.
His lost so much weight!!
stress..
Poor guy.
@@ethanshusband8913 He had gastric bypass.
Being locked up either makes people gain a ton or lose dramatically.
Guilt sucks
Thank you for being one of if not the only one that actually has captions available- it doesn't just 'look like'they're available. I really appreciate it!
It’s amazing how so many people attribute violence to evil. “Oh something violent happened? Jail.” Y’all are soft fr fr.
He killed a kid and stabbed four others and apparently feeling empathy for them makes someone soft
You can have empathy for someone’s loss without condoning the actions of the deceased. Those concepts aren’t mutually exclusive
Those young people were bullying him.
There’s no innocent parties in this. He approached them and refused to leave. The kids being kids attacked verbally but he threw the first punch. He’s a grown ass man and knows he should’ve walked away. Everyone says he doesn’t have to retreat but remember he came up to them.
@@deedubs602,
They’re not kids FFS !
Young adults acting like morons .
Don’t blame Miu for defending himself .
Kids? 17-24 year-old people are not "kids" and can easily kill a 1 person just one month from having triple bypass heart surgery. Actions have consequences. These "kids" could just have easily helped the man rather than attack him. @@deedubs602
@@Theresa89 a 17 yr old is not a kid? You ask anyone over 35 is 22 yrs old still a kid they will say yes! Your mindset is that of a kid a couple of years out of high school. Remember he approached them. Started shuffling the their inter-tubes around and refused to leave when he was told to go and punched the girl first. To me both parties are guilty and have to deal with it. But Mr. Miu killed a kid stabbed 4 others then ran, lied and tried to hide. He told every lie in the book. I have no doubt he feared for his life but he approached them. He could’ve easily walked away. I’m glad I don’t have to decide this case
He called them “children”. He was smirking. This man was angry. He did not disembowel and murder out of fear. He was mad. Had had enough. He had the choice to walk away. He wouldn’t do it. Not that the teenagers were in the right, but this man brutally killed out of anger.
cries for a dog but no humans
His dog is probably nicer than those humans.
SELF DEFENSE
I feel sorry for the boy’s family…
…but this guy should have never been charged.
The knife story is ridiculous why would another man call a man and ask him to bring a knife. He wouldn't this is a lie
I did find that odd.Hell if in a pinch you grab a steak knife
The girl where this all started had no visible injuries as she stomped up the hill saying " I've been punched in the f ing face for f's sake". Victim? or Trouble maker?
Without madison, this entire situation never happens.
Yep! Poor man
oh jeez... I think you guys are right. 😳😖
@@calystacalvert524 So funny 😂
This poor man is not guilty to me this was self defense!!💔😢
He lied & lied & it caught up with him today. He sunk himself, he probably shouldn’t have gone in the stand
All the other witnesses lied. Does that bother you or only this guy bothers you?
And the 13 teens lied and lied and bullied him with slaps and punches.
Does anyone think these lawyers are running this trial like they didn’t prepare? I feel like this man should have better representation!
He actually has a great lawyer.
@@brutuscarpathia9638him taking the stand was a mistake
@@JetMC254 He wasn't great but it would have been far worse if he hadn't testified.
@@williamhenry9705 you should only take the stand if you're sympathetic/charismatic, which this guy isn't
@@JetMC254I feel sympathetic towards him. When they were showing pictures and showed one with his dog, that was sad. He seems softly spoken.🤷🏻♀️ He doesn't seem confrontational. He is not very charismatic at all, I agree with you on that. As far as sympathetic I guess it depends on the person.
Self defense
Why hasn't Maddie testified? I see no videos of her testimony.
Madison has been on trial already, but as a so called 'victim' she was given the weird choice to turn off the cameras while she gives her evidence🤷♂️
And she chose to do that for some reason 🤔
She was on the stand on day 2 or 3.
Shame we will never get to see her barefaced lies.
Without madison, this trial never needs to take place.
She's a manly testosterone soaked "female" and knows she doesn't come off well.
My thoughts exactly, he never punched her either, he is not the type that punches women, this went out of control because of jawahna running his mouth and creating a video he could post up for view is what happened here!
I’d bet she didn’t want to be recorded because she knew she looked like a crazy drunk in the evidence video and she knew she was a bold-faced liar, and probably didn’t want anyone (the public) to see her B.S. testimony. From the way we saw her act and look in the evidence video… it’s apparent she isn’t a shy person so I believe her decision to not be recorded was so the public couldn’t hear her LIES on the stand. I also think that a part of her must realize that SHE was one of the main catalysts that caused this event to become so out-of-control. If not for her and the consequent actions, Miu may not have been put in a position where he felt threatened for his life. I absolutely believe he felt his life was in danger and was just defending himself in a very overwhelming situation.
Being bullied is not a reason to gut two kids, one of which died and stab three others
He was getting punched in the face, what if would of died from the punches?
Bullied you say? Punched 3 times in the face while being pushed down is "bullying". Man please...RESPECT others and this doesn't happen.
Some people just don't get it. Guy was defending himself against an angry mob of people who punched and pushed him. @@bryanaguilar9787
At the point of more that one adversary you are now in imminent danger of great bodily harm or death.
You are clueless and need more information, I seen the headline and thought he was instantly guilty until i watched the video a few times, the kids would not let up with the verbal attack and it was what they were saying that caused it to escalate, they attacked him because the kids were calling him a pedo and raper, this situation did not just happen for no reason!
He defecated during the attack as a physiological effect of his body’s fight or flight response. I’ve personally never heard of an aggressor having this happen.
Source of your info?
@@marciaquarle8870 his testimony. They didn’t spend much time on it but it really stood out to me.
@@Bardmusic66 What the original testimony straight after his murder spree where he lied about even having a knife? That testimony?
@@lynndavy1965 no, under oath on the stand!
@@lynndavy1965this video is the morning testimony, he said it in the afternoon portion
I really don’t like this judge. He sustains every objection from the prosecution
How are these surgeries relevant???? Everyone saw the video, that says it all.
It’s second degree murder and one can turn over the first degree to that. But he needs to stay behind bars.
They were drunk but he had a choice to leave and ask for help instead of staying and stab a lot of people
They were attacking him and punching him in the head. What If that was your father or son?
@@Tomyum19 I would have asked my father or my son why did you stay? Why not run to find help? Why did you pull out a knife to stab multiple people and why did you stabbed a woman and punch the other? Why after you had stabbed multiple people did you go a ran to a peacemaker to try to stab him once but you were not successful and then you ran after him to try to stab him again after he did no harm to you? Why did you ran and lie to the police and the investigators pretending you didn’t know what had happened? He was found guilty because it doesn’t take a lot of sence that this coward did what he did to show who was the toughest and the strongest. Well now he is in prison where he will rot. That’s justice and thank you Jury and God for Justice.
@@beatrizf1878 Yeah I’m sure you would have. Next time your life is in danger and being attacked by a mob we’ll see how much logic and clear thinking you’ll use. People like you are the reason the country is crap today.
@@beatrizf1878 Yeah I’m sure you would. Video doesn’t lie. He’s innocent. People like you are what’s wrong with the country.
@@beatrizf1878 Hmm. Maybe the same thing will happen to you one day and you’ll go to prison and I’ll visit and ask “why didn’t you just walk away?”
Oh, wow! would you look at that. he's fully capable of using his words. In all of the footage not once did he utter a single word in defense. he simply wouldn't leave them alone. then began stabbing. not adding up.
Some people in all these comments have their heads on wrong. It’s not a stand your ground state and even if it was you have a duty to retreat
Actually he's not. He couldn't even defend himself and didn't even say a defense that was on video! His lawyer had to give leading questions bc he was so bad at it.
Hopefully is released and sues for the money he has lost during this time and the mental anguish he has suffered during this time. Also hopefully all the ones on the video are charged with assault. Parents raise your kids better. Teach them not to mess with grown folk. Sorry if this sounds harsh but it’s facts
A murderer!! NOOOO
@@BostonHorticulture well then under these conditions a lot of us would be called a murderer then. Have a good day
They should have helped him look for the phone instead of attacking him, the one that should be on trial here is jawahna because he started the lies and attack trying to pump up a video!
This group of people were attacking that man the women were attacking him first
Guilty.
I have never felt so conflicted............A part of me feels there should be consequences for this man, but then there should also be consequences for the "kids" on the river that day that were taunting him/pushing him.
That’s not against any law. What he did stabbing girls not threatening him is a capital crime
ALL of the young people caused this. Bullying is wrong.
You evidently didn't see where they were punching him and kicking him you know why you're conflicted is because you're a woman and you don't know how to think you have your emotional you're too emotional you need to go back in and wash the dishes and wash the clothes and shove a tampon up your ass and don't worry about this that's why you're not the judge you're a woman
He was bullying them as well. That’s no excuse to stab someone and he knew it.
@@FayHayshow was he bullying them?
Yes. Weight loss is noticeable. I don't think he needed hospitalization or any serious injuries. Yet he had the knife, and should have walked away. Words do not kill. Knifing multiple young people is defenseless
Dude had the knife out before the girls got in his face. Guilty.
The screenshots show his hand in the pocket with the knife with the girls right there in there in his fave. And even if he did have it out before they got there, how does that make him guilty? Before the girls arrived, he was already outnumbered by drunken teenagers yelling, laughing and taunting him, so yeah, I would have knife in hand ready to protect myself in that situation
Anyone agreeing with the mob is a fool and would have likely been right next to the kids acting like idiots, he had the knife out because he had an angry mob trying to kill him, I have seen this happen many times, people do stupid stuff when they dont know all the facts!
Why do they keep saying mob 😒 sounds ridiculous..bullies are more like it. They are too broke to be mobs still under their parents' wings. More like wannabes.
Praying the jury finds him not guilty! Everything he says, aligns with the video. I feel every word of his testimony and know how teens can be! They make up garbage for a laugh, and to get those around them, riled up. Drunk, stoned, not in their clear mind….total instigation on their part! THEY should have just shimmied on down the river and left him alone! Why should have that been Mr. Miu’s responsibility to leave? They didn’t even know what he was doing….looking for a phone, and if they did, they didn’t care. They wanted to turn the truth into their own narrative for their own agenda…to be rude and laugh, and start something. Not guilty!!!!!
100 agree with you!
Selfdefense. Voting not guilty.
Smh this man breaks my heart for real 😢
Yes he killed a kid.
@@81suze Shut up you fool.
Ravie not 100 percent, but in Wisconsin your required to only warn that your goin to use force, fairly confident i heard that from a lawer review of this case.
SELF DEFENSE prime example. respect others
While I wish he didn't take the stand I understand why he did. But feel the video spoke for itself and he really didn't need to open himself up to a cross examination. With it, I think there is now more of a chance for a hung jury than there was before. The jurors may give the stabbing victims more leeway for their lies than they did him as the stabber, IMO.
Those teens are going to feel a lot of guilt when they grow up and start to see things differently.
You don't just film a man and call him a pedo for no reason for views. That alone could have gotten him killed and should be illegal to yell "rapist" or "pedo" when it's a lie.
He's going to jail for life. They had the whole river but they had to hog it for themselves? Why? Madison, the "victim" who started all this was screaming in his face and telling him to go the opposite direction of his family and had her hands on him.
When they grow up and realize they put a man in jail.... maybe they're older and being picked on or walk by a group of teens heckling them maybe then they will understand their part in this. You look at things differently when you grow up.
Freedom of speech, do you not agree with this ? If we suspect a sexual threat, we should be free to voice that.
@jerobardo37 free speech is awesome, but that is actually slander. They were video taping him and calling him a pedo.
I think it should be illegal. Supposedly, there was a person going there with a bat to try to help... thinking this guy was raping someone or trying to or whatever. It's all funny to them bc they're just making it up for views.
@jerobardo37 I do not believe any of them were scared for their lives initially. They were laughing, making fun of him, and video taping it. When there's a group of teens especially they feel safer and find it easier to pick on others (which is what they were doing.)
@@BlueLuna5
The boys had a valid reason to believe what they believed.
Only criminal minds are supporting the defense.
Truth.
🤷♀
Cop haters, child predators, etc. and physically unfit people who are simply jealous of handsome healthy boys who don’t look like they’re pregnant.
They attack him!!! It's Ridiculous, It`s self-defense!!! It`s not his fault.
He's an adult. He had plenty of time to walk away. Instead he stayed and now he has to pay for his actions.
@@1Rudeboi420 when you are being attacked by wild drunks, you can't think like you normally would. This man was provoked 100%!
@@1Rudeboi420 Walk away from hostile, taunting individuals who are yelling insults at him and mocking him? That's called bullying. He had every right to turn around to see what they were going to do next. Are you saying that just because they were not adults, they had every right to chase and taunt him? That's what they were doing. Look for yourself. I went to work a week after I graduated from high school. I guarantee you, I was expected to conduct myself as an adult at that point. Why wouldn't I be? Because I was still a teen? Ridiculous.
@@c.t.2252 Miu knifed some people who were not the hecklers. You are lumping everyone together. He could have walked away and let those tubers float by the spot where he thought the phone might be, then resume looking. You shouldn't let your prejudices or subjective experience take over here. A minor was killed with a knife and others severely wounded by the defendent who never brandished the knife and warn them to back off before he started sticking people. If he had not remembered that he had a knife in his pocket, he most likely would have walked away.
Even in a stand your ground or line in the sand state YOU HAVE A DUTY TO RETREAT…he is as innocent as OJ
It’s not all about how Miu felt, as the defense mouthpiece asserted, later. He wants us to believe this. But it is really about the facts, which are incredibly brutal. He approached the groups at least two times, while carrying a concealed deadly weapon.
Did you watch the testimony? He approached because they were holdinf up the phone he was looking for, at least thats what he thought. He got close to see if it was his friends phone. It was then that he stumbled on their tubes and lost hos snorkel. He went to look for it in the mass of their tubes as it could have went down stream around them or under them. It was then that he went away and towards the other half of the group with the women, and it was there that he was surrounded and brought down to his most vulnerable.
And 13 people were harassing him while filming. They were looking for trouble.
Make sure you see his interrogation before you think he’s innocent
I did, still think he’s innocent.
Have you ever been in this situation? Likely not, I have as I was a bouncer in a very busy bar, people that are drunk can not be reasoned with, when stuff goes south you are nothing but adrenaline and honestly the memory goes along with it so knowing what happened in comparison with what actually happened is two different things entirely, he likely was in shock at the point when he was attacked, after he realized what happened he did not know what to do or say.
@@darkwarrior478
I have luckily not been in a situation like this, but I absolutely understand what you are saying and agree. And I keep thinking for all the people saying, ‘he could just walk away.. they were kids etc.. he didn’t have to hurt anyone’….I would ask anyone of them to be in the position he was in and see if they feared for their lives. Chances are… most people would. And none of us can say how he should act after the fact.. I’m sure he was traumatized and in complete shock.
Defense sounds like they are speaking to a child.
Severe brain damage from drinking & drugs makes adults act like children.
“You can tell us.”
7:44
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Stay sober.💊💉🥃🍺🚫😰🧠👁
THIS JUST IN:
BUSINESS WEEKLY HAS ANNOUNCED MIU IS NOW THE OFFICIAL SPOKESMAN FOR GINZU KNIFES🔪. “IT SLICES!, IT DICES!, IT EVEN CUTS THROUGH NAILS!?”
I cannot understand how this man was convicted. I am 100% boggled.
@qwuark7734
Because you have no danger radar & you think disturbed people are perfectly normal. And you have homicidal ideations evidently.
I see you are an animal lover…🙄🤢
Typical.
Did you kill that poor deer in “self-defense” then run & hide from the dead deer underneath momma’s skirt.🍭🧃
I'm sorry if it pisses off the snowflakes, but I would not have convicted this man for homicide.
Testing
That group of people were not teenagers if they were teenagers they wouldn't be able to drink beer
I'm pretty sure they're "able" to drink a certain drink.
Able to "buy it" is the question.
Um, I guess u were never a teenager. U do realize teenagers sneak alcohol from their parents right? Or use fake ID. They were also smoking weed. Welcome to reality😂
@@michellereilly979 Grew up in a cave apparently.
So come on he could of left back to his group. All this they talk about the teens being drunk but he was as well. If he was that scared why stay around them. No matter what no excuse to stabbing so many and killing one.
SELF DEFENSE
Yeah, he kept escalating the situation. Even motioning to his group to come help is escalating. How would adding more men to this situation help? Are we supposed to believe he just wanted them to tell the kids “shame on you, please leave this nice man alone” and they would apologize and float gently downstream? It’s absurd. He was pissed off and didn’t want to lose this d*ck measuring contest to a bunch of drunk teens. If you really want to avoid a confrontation, you walk away.
He was SURROUNDED
@@monkey8464 No he wasn’t. A herd of elephants could fit in all the empty space there was behind him. He was never cornered. He admitted on the stand, he had the opportunity to walk away many times, but he decided to stand his ground.
@@Xandreta we'll see what the jury decides soon
I would possibly stand a little humiliation and turn my back and only use 😮defense unless they chased me down
You would be a statistic, likely drowned and the mob would be like....oh we dont know what happened to him, he hit his head on a rock or something, you can not reason with drunk people on adrenaline!
Hope Nike makes a movie about this entire event , and becomes rich
He was angry and killed. Not safe for him to walk free
@@81suze Oh no self defense foresure
He already has a movie. Its called the backpacker killer. Wolf creek.
He lost so much weight in prison ! 😲
Unreal!!!!!! Wrong guy convicted.
Many Monday morning Qb's out here. A person has an absolute right to defend themselves from death or great bodily harm and a person is not required to leave a public place especially when rightfully searching for his belongings. If more people defended themselves against these type of aggressors these type of aggressors would leave people alone. This is what happens when a mob of people get entirely too comfortable attacking one person in a public place. It is tragic that a 17 year old had to lose his life; however, nobody forced that kid and the others to start trouble with an absolute stranger for no justifiable reason whatsoever. Actions have consequences. Had they simply minded their own business or (GOD FORBID) actually helped somebody find their phone everyone would have been better off for it. People now a days are entirely to comfortable disrespecting others and expecting nothing to happen. BE RESPECTFUL AND KIND TO OTHERS.
This....this....this.....THIS IS THE WAY!!!
I'm sure he was using a :not mean" tone. I'm sorry he felt uncomfortable during this incident, but I'm sure it's much more "uncomfortable" for the victims and the families. He is the adult. Walk away. I don't condone the actions of the teens, but this was egregious.
He wasn’t given permission to approach their floats
Go smoke your pipe.
What’s this old dude tubing and getting drunk and having a knife
He typically uses the knife to cut the string they use to connect the floating inner tubes. Maybe watch the trial…
You would figure this out watching the testimony...
Nothing he was doing was legally questionable, until they attacked him.
Nothing he was doing was legally questionable, until they attacked him.
Weird crying over a dog
I know right, weird how a normal human feels emotions for an animal isn't it.
I have two and love them like my children, would protect them with my life as well, you obviously are lacking emotion, you might want to go get that checked!
@danielsemmens6640 ^Tell me you dont like dogs without saying you dont like dogs ^...sad.
He didn't fool me. He acted in his own best interest in the heat of the moment, but he gave no thought to what he was risking by putting himself among those people. He threw his and his wife's life away over pridefulness and material goods which could easily be replaced if permanently lost. Who cares if you lose face backing away from rowdy, drunk people you'll never see again in your entire life?
The DA should be ashamed. NOT GUILTY! All you 18 plus one day adults out there. I only wish I could transport you to grow up in the 60's or 70's. The term "Dad" would instill fear in you.
Looking very good for the defendant.
If you’re blind
Selfdefense. Voting not guilty.