Lived in west gorton in the sixtys at the start of the slum clearance, we lived in a two up and two down old terraced house, the toilet was outside which froze up in the winter, no bath had to go to the council bath house, 1 coal fire, no hot water, you froze in the winter. We moved to partington then Hattersley be there since 1965, we thought we had died and gone to Heaven, still live there now, lovely estate and countryside, and people.
We lived in a similar sounding house. The landlord eventually modernised them in 1983. You had to have a strong bladder to avoid going out to the toilet in the winter :)
I was born in 56 and grew up in the Manchester where this regeneration was happening, don't want to be political but "White Privilege" and the benefits of "Empire" never hit the North and these people.
@jackreacher5667 The wealth extraction and plunder from the Empire, only benefitted the elite establishment. Likewise the industrial revolution only benefitted the elite establishment, the men, women and children were kept in penury. And people knock unions, they have no idea.
So you genuinely believe they weren't better off than the Kenyans during the Mau Mau Uprising, or the Bengalis during the Bengal Famine, to mention a few?
Thanks, I agree. They did a track called "The Dukinfield Brothel" I am trying to think of a video to use the music in that wont get me banned... There is two more tracks by the Three Crows on my Reliant Fox video if your interested.
The houses should have been replaced with identical houses just with dampbreak, water closets, and modern heating plants. The highrises had no benefits at all. Even the claimed benefit of "density" was a lie. The insistence on green spaces meant that the housing density of the towers was LOWER than that of the neighborhoods of houses that preceded them.
I lived in Peacock Street in Gorton until I was 7. In one of those terraced houses, no indoor plumbing, a single gas burner for hot water in the kitchen, an old range in the living room. I show my kids (and Grandkids) what I grew up in only 50 years ago, as they think in the Stone Age. Got moved out to Heald Green, near the Airport. My Mother crying when she saw we had a garden front and back, indoor toilet and bathroom room with an actual bath, hot and cold water. I had never seen a Cow or Sheep until we moved, never seen an open field until then. All I had ever seen was Belle Vue and its exotic animals.
Fantastic photography. I can remember the tail end of this demolition, but very clearly the demolition of the forts about 8-10 years later. Great website.
In London WW2 ended in 1945 and rebuilding started in the South almost immediately, but for most of the rest of the UK they were still "digging out" from the rubble well into the 1960's
I love this. Thank you for uploading it. I've never heard that song before but it perfectly sums up how it was. I was born in M10 in 1960 and lived in one of those houses.
Grew up on Ashton old road Ardwick in a pub.. saw the place disappear around us.. the houses they built after we moved out have already been demolished. Great footage especially the last picture..and the accompanying song❤
Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed it. Your right about the replacement houses already being demolished and I bet the latest replacements will be gone in another 50 years while the old terrace houses that survived the clearance are still going strong.
Youngest of 11. Lived on Bradford Rd in 2 up n 2down until we moved when i 4 to a brand new 5-bedroom House in West Gorton. Bathroom & 2 toilets, thought it was a palace. Then things changed, ended up back in 2up2down of Hyde RD. Back to no bath, toilet outside again, make shift kitchenette as me Mam called it. Then belle Vue st. Times were hard back then, but I'm glad I grew up in the 60/70s. Once again brilliant vid.
I was born in Glasgow and married my girl from Abbey Hey in the 80s. Now married 40 years and I am half Glasgow and half Manc. Such a brilliant City, brilliant people. I just wish I could go back to the 80’s, late night buses home and we all got on.
These were terrible hovels and were quite rightly demolished. They should however have been replaced by low density housing on the same spot instead of being replaced by soulless tower blocks which soom became slums after a few years due to poor constru tion.
They should have been replaced with identical houses just with dampbreak courses and water closets. And "low density housing" is a misnomer. Their insistence on green spaces means that the total housing density of the highrises is LOWER than the neighborhoods of houses that preceded them.
moved up to bredbury in 65 ,i was 7 at the time ,all i remember about chorlton on medlock was playing out all the time like any other kid in the bombed houses ,we had it rough like everyone else did ,as a kid you knew no different ,but when we moved to bredbury ,wow fields galore ,inside toilet ,a bath ,your own bedroom ,and we were still poor as a church mouse but we got on with it ,survived and to an extent prospered .
I remember going to his friends house for a barbecue and he said "do you remember when we ate inside and crapped outside". I do think the things that really mattered in life where in more abundance back then.
I was born in 1955 and lived in one of these slum houses and they really did need demolishing, for the first 3 years of my life we had no electricity. The local council were not going to electrify houses scheduled for demolition. My grandparents of who had lived in the house previously, moved to a new 3 bedroom house in Langley Middleton. This had a bathroom, indoor toilet, gardens back and front and even a brick outhouse. My grandmother thought she had “made” it and so she had. Both my grandparents and my aunt and uncle worked, post war prosperity has really kicked in and the sixties was the best decade ever. My brother, sister and I spent every weekend and school holidays our grandparents and these were the happiest days of our life.
My auntie, who turned out to be my gran, (another story) was moved from a 2up down in Salford to a 23 story block of flats. Her hubby ended up in a mental institution and her next-door neighbour, a large woman, was in the same block but soon managed to jump from the 11th floor to her death. This was how such drastic change after growing up in a different environment, must have affected many folk. 😢
Such a shame. On paper these flats with indoor toilets and modern bathrooms were so much better then the run down houses people had moved from but you can't quantify or reproduce community. A community is like a fragile eco system and the slightest change can destroy it.
I had an Auntie Ada when i was little,im 65 now,i used to get taken to hers if i had been naughty? She was like the lady in the video i think i had a knuckle butty afew times!😢 im about 25 mins from Hattersley,tough times😢,great vid ty❤
@CheshireCat6639 Think we all had an Auntie Ada in our lives, usually not an Auntie at all but a term we used out of respect. I like to call them Street Aunties :)
Thanks for the comment. All of the photos came from Manchester archives or articles about Manchester but it is quite possible that over time the photos have been re used from similar articles about Liverpool but labelled Manchester. Hope you still enjoyed the video.
@@OldWolflad I am Born and Bred in The Dingle area of Liverpool and this just reminds me of growing up as a kid. All of the working class areas in the North West must have been the same. It makes you appreciate what we have today.
Very good, time flies eh,! I remember streets like this everywhere, the whole dynamic of Manchester has changed, I’m not sure the gentrification of many areas will be successful, most of the new ‘luxury’ apartments are expensive to rent with daft service charges an all, and where will the tenants go when they have kids, these apartments may , in time, be the next slums
@@bernardmcmahon351 I think the fact they are so expensive it may stop them falling into the hands of unscrupulous land lords who don't maintain them. Most are owned by large pension companies. The type of dwellings they are does make them short term homes and therefore the area becomes very transient with no real roots.
I agree mostly. Usually because landlords would not invest, however the council didn't only destroy the hovels but also the communities. Looking back is difficult though as you either look back through rose tinted glasses or through todays eyes. Hope you enjoyed the video and music.
@@bertdingle I did. I suspect most of the community spirit came from the appalling struggles that ordinary working class people had to cope with. Co-operation and empathy was essential just to survive the privation and oppression. I was born in a 2-up 2-down with a lean-to kitchen and an outside toilet, and a tiny back yard. I moved when i was 5 to a council house with a bathroom with a toilet, a kitchen, a back kitchen with a brick-built copper, a downstairs toilet and three sizeable bedrooms, and a large garden. This was luxury, and more than compensation for the loss of our old neighbours; we had a lot of new ones, and lived next to a 170 acre wood. I was in heaven as a kid...
@@edeledeledel5490 I lived in an identical house to the one you described, however mine didn't get demolished like most. We didn't get an inside toilet or heating other than coal fires until 1983. Do I prefer the house I live in now? I sure do but I still have fond memories of my childhood especially when the smog clears from my rose tinted glasses. Thanks for sharing your memories and thoughts.
@@bertdingle My mother was a widow; in the winter, we got up and dressed downstairs in front of a 2 bar electric fire and then went to school where my mother was a teacher. The coal fire was lit in the living room when we got back at 4 in the afternoon, and stayed alight till about 10 o'clock when we went to bed with hot-water bottles and a couple of coats each on our bed. It was bloody cold, only being heated by one coal fire for 6 hours in the evening and half an hour in the morning! Later on we had a paraffin heater in the hall to slightly warm the rest of the house. It was my job to make a three mile round walk to the ironmongers to carry back a full gallon of paraffin in a can from when I was about 8. I feel we sound a bit like a Monty Python sketch. I used to dream of living in a cardboard box... But my mother re-married and we moved in to a centrally heated bungalow when I was 12.
@@edeledeledel5490 Somebody once said I used to dream of living in a cardboard box to Mike Sweeney on the radio. Mike replied when he was a kid they had been on the waiting list for a cardboard box for years. :)
We moved from an old half decrepit and cockroach infested house to a new modern council house, that had decent heating, wall cavity insulation and a small garden that had grass and a tree. Walls that weren't covered in damp and the roof didn't leak. This pretend bullshit of the slum housing wasn't so bad or they could of been saved and renovated... They were awful places to live in and the houses were way past anything fit for human habitation. It wasn't all high rise blocks either, lots of nice clean housing estates were built too. I for one was glad to live somewhere that wasn't actively trying to kill me. Even into the 80's I remember the odd family that still lived in a house with an outdoor bog and no central heating. Bollocks to that for a game of soldiers People can reminisce with rose coloured glasses on all they want. But tearing down those slums was overall a good thing.
To a large extent you are correct, however many of the houses that were built to replace the slums have themselves now been demolished in as little as thirty years while some of the "slums that survived are still going strong and are desirable. I myself lived in a house that didn't have an inside toilet until 1983 but what I remember more than the cold nights with no central heating was the sense of community. I don't know how you can quantify a sense of community but when AI eventually comes up with the answer it will be too expensive 😄
@@bertdingle Don't get me wrong, they did plenty of awful hosing projects. Places like Hulme and those Legoland type blocks of flats and tower blocks they threw up all over the city were badly thought out and many quickly descended into slums. But there are also large parts of the city that were built up that are going strong and desirable areas to live. Like I said, overall the slum clearances was a good thing and yes there were mistakes made. This is a local council in the UK we're talking about. There isn't a project in the world they couldn't manage to screw up.
They pulled down 2 storey slums and built 42 storey slums.
The accountants said it would work :)
now all gone
And their insistence on "green spaces" means that the total housing density is actually LOWER than what preceded the highrises.
@@bertdingle Did the accountants live in Hattersley? I bet they didn't.
@@rogueriderhood1862 Only the turf accountants 😂
Lived in west gorton in the sixtys at the start of the slum clearance, we lived in a two up and two down old terraced house, the toilet was outside which froze up in the winter, no bath had to go to the council bath house, 1 coal fire, no hot water, you froze in the winter.
We moved to partington then Hattersley be there since 1965, we thought we had died and gone to Heaven, still live there now, lovely estate and countryside, and people.
We lived in a similar sounding house. The landlord eventually modernised them in 1983. You had to have a strong bladder to avoid going out to the toilet in the winter :)
I was born in 56 and grew up in the Manchester where this regeneration was happening, don't want to be political but "White Privilege" and the benefits of "Empire" never hit the North and these people.
@jackreacher5667 The wealth extraction and plunder from the Empire, only benefitted the elite establishment. Likewise the industrial revolution only benefitted the elite establishment, the men, women and children were kept in penury. And people knock unions, they have no idea.
Very true, I never understood why they called it white privilege, all working class grew up in the 50s and 60s on the bones of our arse.
So you genuinely believe they weren't better off than the Kenyans during the Mau Mau Uprising, or the Bengalis during the Bengal Famine, to mention a few?
@@danielbulman6082Oh shut up. You have no clues
This is incredible. I can't believe how little there is on the internet on The Three Crows, this song alone should be revered.
Thanks, I agree. They did a track called "The Dukinfield Brothel" I am trying to think of a video to use the music in that wont get me banned... There is two more tracks by the Three Crows on my Reliant Fox video if your interested.
@@bertdingle I am, I'll go take a look! Thanks, Bert.
The houses should have been replaced with identical houses just with dampbreak, water closets, and modern heating plants. The highrises had no benefits at all. Even the claimed benefit of "density" was a lie. The insistence on green spaces meant that the housing density of the towers was LOWER than that of the neighborhoods of houses that preceded them.
Lived on Gibson Street Ardwick 1953-1966 best 13 years of my life.
Good views of the overhead railway line crossing Hyde road from there. All gone now and replaced by Coverdale Crescent.
Wonderful video (so much history evoking so many emotions!) and what a fantastic song too, fits perfectly with the video. 👍👏
Thanks. The group also do a song called the Dukinfield Brothel, Don't know what photos I am going to use for that one :)
@@bertdingle Ha ha, I'm sure you'll have something fitting hidden away in the archives! 😆
Love these old films , my town Liverpool went the same way, NORTHERN folk had hard lives.
Loved it. Lived in Hyde and Hollingworth 33 years. Still remember the day they opened Hattersley McDonald's!
Just imagine if these houses had been given decent heating and plumbing rather than pulling them down. Breaks my heart to what we have lost.
I lived in Peacock Street in Gorton until I was 7. In one of those terraced houses, no indoor plumbing, a single gas burner for hot water in the kitchen, an old range in the living room. I show my kids (and Grandkids) what I grew up in only 50 years ago, as they think in the Stone Age. Got moved out to Heald Green, near the Airport. My Mother crying when she saw we had a garden front and back, indoor toilet and bathroom room with an actual bath, hot and cold water. I had never seen a Cow or Sheep until we moved, never seen an open field until then. All I had ever seen was Belle Vue and its exotic animals.
Mike Harding once said "The first time I saw a cow I thought it was a bus without any windows, couldn't work out how to get on it though" :)
@@bertdingle Mike Harding, That's a blast from the past, the "Rochdale Cowboy"
@@markbooth1117 I have three songs from Mike Harding on my pubs of Gorton video if your interested, Also plenty of other videos of him on youtube.
@@bertdingleHe Also sang about Hattersley on one of his LPs, Mrs Harding kid, or a Lancashire Lad. have both and still much loved.
@@jackreacher5667 My favourite album of his is one man show. I have five other albums of his so will see if I can find the song. Thanks.
A song written by Ken Campbell of the Pennine Folk group of whom I had the pleasure to be a member.
@peterbowler7295 That's fantastic. Hope you still manage to perform even if it's only in the shower.
I live in another country but those high-riser make my heart heavy.
Fantastic photography. I can remember the tail end of this demolition, but very clearly the demolition of the forts about 8-10 years later. Great website.
Thanks, Glad you enjoyed it.
In London WW2 ended in 1945 and rebuilding started in the South almost immediately, but for most of the rest of the UK they were still "digging out" from the rubble well into the 1960's
I love this. Thank you for uploading it. I've never heard that song before but it perfectly sums up how it was. I was born in M10 in 1960 and lived in one of those houses.
Thanks for your comment and glad you enjoyed it.
It is the English folk song 'High Germany' with different words
Wonderful video and accompanying song/lyrics!! ❤
Grew up on Ashton old road Ardwick in a pub.. saw the place disappear around us.. the houses they built after we moved out have already been demolished. Great footage especially the last picture..and the accompanying song❤
Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed it. Your right about the replacement houses already being demolished and I bet the latest replacements will be gone in another 50 years while the old terrace houses that survived the clearance are still going strong.
Excellent, photographs such as these are time travel indeed.
Thank you for your work!
Fantastic photos, a treasured collection,
Youngest of 11. Lived on Bradford Rd in 2 up n 2down until we moved when i 4 to a brand new 5-bedroom House in West Gorton. Bathroom & 2 toilets, thought it was a palace. Then things changed, ended up back in 2up2down of Hyde RD. Back to no bath, toilet outside again, make shift kitchenette as me Mam called it. Then belle Vue st. Times were hard back then, but I'm glad I grew up in the 60/70s. Once again brilliant vid.
@mcfcsue hard times and good times can go hand in hand.
Bloody marvellous
Thanks
Perfect video loved the song brilliant!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
watched this twice, I enjoyed it. Thanks
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Love this; could be about Dundee 'n a'!
Excellent
I was born in Glasgow and married my girl from Abbey Hey in the 80s. Now married 40 years and I am half Glasgow and half Manc.
Such a brilliant City, brilliant people. I just wish I could go back to the 80’s, late night buses home and we all got on.
@davidrowe7868 If you ever manage to go back in time don't forget your clipper card!
@@bertdingle I’ve still got my last one and my Placemate 7 membership card.
Oh my gosh, all those houses!
Love it.
Thanks
Parts of Blackburn still look like some of those old photos . seriously 💯😎
It's a downward spiral. People buy properties to rent out as they are cheap but because there value is low they won't invest in them, Shame.
@@bertdingle beautiful old buildings with heart and soul looking for an owner for life not just for a few years .
😎
These were terrible hovels and were quite rightly demolished. They should however have been replaced by low density housing on the same spot instead of being replaced by soulless tower blocks which soom became slums after a few years due to poor constru tion.
They should have been replaced with identical houses just with dampbreak courses and water closets. And "low density housing" is a misnomer. Their insistence on green spaces means that the total housing density of the highrises is LOWER than the neighborhoods of houses that preceded them.
moved up to bredbury in 65 ,i was 7 at the time ,all i remember about chorlton on medlock was playing out all the time like any other kid in the bombed houses ,we had it rough like everyone else did ,as a kid you knew no different ,but when we moved to bredbury ,wow fields galore ,inside toilet ,a bath ,your own bedroom ,and we were still poor as a church mouse but we got on with it ,survived and to an extent prospered .
I remember going to his friends house for a barbecue and he said "do you remember when we ate inside and crapped outside". I do think the things that really mattered in life where in more abundance back then.
Lives well lived these days a lot of lives as lived in a room with a computer gaming a lot of kids hardly ever see the light of day
So true. I grew up in a landscape like this and never felt poor. Today if your phone is twelve months old kids will call child line :)
Moved from ardwick in 67 to hattersley as a baby ❤
@ingram67 I had family who moved into Kingsbridge Ave back then.
I know that avenue just off Honiton 😁
Superb 👏👏
Now theyve knocked half of it down again😂
True, however the houses that survived the clearance are still standing. Will they ever learn?
I was born in 1955 and lived in one of these slum houses and they really did need demolishing, for the first 3 years of my life we had no electricity. The local council were not going to electrify houses scheduled for demolition.
My grandparents of who had lived in the house previously, moved to a new 3 bedroom house in Langley Middleton. This had a bathroom, indoor toilet, gardens back and front and even a brick outhouse. My grandmother thought she had “made” it and so she had. Both my grandparents and my aunt and uncle worked, post war prosperity has really kicked in and the sixties was the best decade ever. My brother, sister and I spent every weekend and school holidays our grandparents and these were the happiest days of our life.
Wow, I feel like we were posh. We has a light bulb in every room. Stick a 100w bulb in and you practically had central heating :)
My auntie, who turned out to be my gran, (another story) was moved from a 2up down in Salford to a 23 story block of flats. Her hubby ended up in a mental institution and her next-door neighbour, a large woman, was in the same block but soon managed to jump from the 11th floor to her death. This was how such drastic change after growing up in a different environment, must have affected many folk. 😢
Such a shame. On paper these flats with indoor toilets and modern bathrooms were so much better then the run down houses people had moved from but you can't quantify or reproduce community. A community is like a fragile eco system and the slightest change can destroy it.
Brilliant Song. Love it...
I had an Auntie Ada when i was little,im 65 now,i used to get taken to hers if i had been naughty? She was like the lady in the video i think i had a knuckle butty afew times!😢 im about 25 mins from Hattersley,tough times😢,great vid ty❤
@CheshireCat6639 Think we all had an Auntie Ada in our lives, usually not an Auntie at all but a term we used out of respect. I like to call them Street Aunties :)
The couple at 1.27 although he probably and more than likely loves her now, in their salad days he was passionate about her.
In the photo at 0:16 they are in the background and it looks like they are holding hands.
She latter appeared in Coronation street and was called Ena Sharples.😉😊
Think your right 😂
1:27 prefers a colon to a full stop ;-)
Shane ward was from there, oh, and Myra Hyndley and ian Brady.
Lovely song but a few of the photos are from Liverpool
Thanks for the comment. All of the photos came from Manchester archives or articles about Manchester but it is quite possible that over time the photos have been re used from similar articles about Liverpool but labelled Manchester. Hope you still enjoyed the video.
@@bertdingle Video superb mate. 95% are Manchester anyway.
@@OldWolflad I am Born and Bred in The Dingle area of Liverpool and this just reminds me of growing up as a kid. All of the working class areas in the North West must have been the same. It makes you appreciate what we have today.
Very good, time flies eh,! I remember streets like this everywhere, the whole dynamic of Manchester has changed, I’m not sure the gentrification of many areas will be successful, most of the new ‘luxury’ apartments are expensive to rent with daft service charges an all, and where will the tenants go when they have kids, these apartments may , in time, be the next slums
@@bernardmcmahon351 I think the fact they are so expensive it may stop them falling into the hands of unscrupulous land lords who don't maintain them. Most are owned by large pension companies. The type of dwellings they are does make them short term homes and therefore the area becomes very transient with no real roots.
They weren't homes, they were hovels, as the photographs show.
I agree mostly. Usually because landlords would not invest, however the council didn't only destroy the hovels but also the communities. Looking back is difficult though as you either look back through rose tinted glasses or through todays eyes. Hope you enjoyed the video and music.
@@bertdingle I did.
I suspect most of the community spirit came from the appalling struggles that ordinary working class people had to cope with. Co-operation and empathy was essential just to survive the privation and oppression. I was born in a 2-up 2-down with a lean-to kitchen and an outside toilet, and a tiny back yard.
I moved when i was 5 to a council house with a bathroom with a toilet, a kitchen, a back kitchen with a brick-built copper, a downstairs toilet and three sizeable bedrooms, and a large garden. This was luxury, and more than compensation for the loss of our old neighbours; we had a lot of new ones, and lived next to a 170 acre wood. I was in heaven as a kid...
@@edeledeledel5490 I lived in an identical house to the one you described, however mine didn't get demolished like most. We didn't get an inside toilet or heating other than coal fires until 1983. Do I prefer the house I live in now? I sure do but I still have fond memories of my childhood especially when the smog clears from my rose tinted glasses. Thanks for sharing your memories and thoughts.
@@bertdingle My mother was a widow; in the winter, we got up and dressed downstairs in front of a 2 bar electric fire and then went to school where my mother was a teacher. The coal fire was lit in the living room when we got back at 4 in the afternoon, and stayed alight till about 10 o'clock when we went to bed with hot-water bottles and a couple of coats each on our bed. It was bloody cold, only being heated by one coal fire for 6 hours in the evening and half an hour in the morning!
Later on we had a paraffin heater in the hall to slightly warm the rest of the house. It was my job to make a three mile round walk to the ironmongers to carry back a full gallon of paraffin in a can from when I was about 8.
I feel we sound a bit like a Monty Python
sketch. I used to dream of living in a cardboard box...
But my mother re-married and we moved in to a centrally heated bungalow when I was 12.
@@edeledeledel5490 Somebody once said I used to dream of living in a cardboard box to Mike Sweeney on the radio. Mike replied when he was a kid they had been on the waiting list for a cardboard box for years. :)
lets return to the slums
Some of the house that replaced these already have!
No lets not, there were good things about those times, but most of it was shit.
Didn't need doing much did it, our land for for heroes after 2 world wars.
We moved from an old half decrepit and cockroach infested house to a new modern council house, that had decent heating, wall cavity insulation and a small garden that had grass and a tree. Walls that weren't covered in damp and the roof didn't leak.
This pretend bullshit of the slum housing wasn't so bad or they could of been saved and renovated... They were awful places to live in and the houses were way past anything fit for human habitation. It wasn't all high rise blocks either, lots of nice clean housing estates were built too. I for one was glad to live somewhere that wasn't actively trying to kill me.
Even into the 80's I remember the odd family that still lived in a house with an outdoor bog and no central heating. Bollocks to that for a game of soldiers
People can reminisce with rose coloured glasses on all they want. But tearing down those slums was overall a good thing.
To a large extent you are correct, however many of the houses that were built to replace the slums have themselves now been demolished in as little as thirty years while some of the "slums that survived are still going strong and are desirable. I myself lived in a house that didn't have an inside toilet until 1983 but what I remember more than the cold nights with no central heating was the sense of community. I don't know how you can quantify a sense of community but when AI eventually comes up with the answer it will be too expensive 😄
@@bertdingle Don't get me wrong, they did plenty of awful hosing projects. Places like Hulme and those Legoland type blocks of flats and tower blocks they threw up all over the city were badly thought out and many quickly descended into slums. But there are also large parts of the city that were built up that are going strong and desirable areas to live.
Like I said, overall the slum clearances was a good thing and yes there were mistakes made. This is a local council in the UK we're talking about. There isn't a project in the world they couldn't manage to screw up.
Very true.
Slums got knocked down in north Manchester - ( Where my family are from ) We got Moved to south Manchester = Hulme = The Worst Slum In the world
@mm2280 Hulme re development, so good it lasted 21 years! I've had t-shirts longer than that! :)
Should have knocked it down and planted trees instead of rebuilding 🤭
You can't tax trees :)
@@bertdingle true
@nomenclature9607 Tree house 😉