What can I do to Increase bass outdoors like inside the House. I get a drop off more than 80% bass out in the bavk porch. Can I build walls from wood around the box outside to reflect sound and simulate cabin gain lime in a cat or something like that ? Any help would be appreciated 🙏
If the sound pressure is contained, then you should retain more low end energy. Building an enclosure around your back porch may be more time/work/money than moving more air with a larger subwoofer. Outdoor PA systems usually have very large subwoofers! Could be a good excuse for adding another subwoofer, hopefully your neighbours don't mind ;) Thank you for watching and commenting!
Great information. I must mention, Rockwool is a good product and safe when not being disturbed however when working with Rockwool which is a mineral wool fibre that is used to replace asbestos, a person should wear at least a half mask equipped for particulate’s. Without it you won’t feel anything now but that stuff will wreak havoc on one’s respiratory system later as a person ages.
Thank you for your comment! Indeed I do not always use best practices when I work, you are correct and my own health is one matter but I certainly don't want to influence others poorly. I have some previously filmed videos already scheduled for release, but I will be wearing mask moving forward for future jobs I film. Thanks for watching and engaging I appreciate it!
I've been thinking of building those kind of corner bass traps but i've never thought that they could be build straight to the wall. I've always thought that i need to build them first and later just install the trap to the corner..
I offer this method to clients who want a permanent installation and the wood trim offers them more personalization. Building them first then installing is a great option to keep the trap modular. Either way same amount of absorption in the same position. Thanks for watching!
These traps do not have an air gap. This style gives extra absorption from fully filling out the corner with acoustic insulation. These ones are a more permanent version I offer for clients, however we have other videos showing how to build more modular corner panels that have the air gap. Thanks for watching!
I just used 3 inch construction screws into the drywall, I pre drilled the frame and measured where the 45 degree angle is true and drilled into the wall. Since it's not structural, and is secured on both sides and the top section of the frame, the construction screws into the drywall more than enough to keep the bass trap in place. Thanks for watching!
We did not take any measurements for this clients job, but that indeed would be a great idea for a future video! That video can do some before and after RT60 and waterfall tests to better quantify the performance increases. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
This indeed would have saved us some time and effort! We wanted to cut and test fit as we went along with the build, and our client chose final stain colour after trim was installed. Thanks for watching!
Great video and very informative! I noticed you cut the rockwool in strips that leave a gap at the front then put the comfortboard as opposed to cutting perfect fit triangles that stack on tip of each other that fill the entire space then maybe the comfortboard as well. Is there a preference, time/cost saving, or sound dampening reason for this? Thank you 😊
Thank you John! My rationale for this was since the comfort board has about double the density of the safe'n'sound, and the small gaps added up are roughly equal to one or two full triangle of space that the absorption would be comparable with either method. I like having the comfort board on the outside face so that the fabric is rigid to the touch rather than squishy if only filled with safe'n'sound. It did certainly save some time and cutting of the safensound as well! Thanks for watching and engaging :)
What frequencies do you think are considered "Bass Frequencies"? How did you determine that those frequencies giving you the problem are in the corner? How did you determine that the product you are building is capable of absorbing enough energy at those frequencies, going to be enough surface coverage, placed in the right location and built to actually absorb the problem frequencies? From my knowledge and research, the biggest problems in the low frequency range under 100Hz are usually Axial modes. Axial modes are unwanted frequencies between 2 parallel walls, not 2 parallel corners. In small room, low frequencies giving problem usually start in the 30Hz to 50Hz range depending on the dimensions of the walls. Corners only represent maybe 5% of the surface. With ceilings in the 7ft to 9ft range usually have low frequency problems between around 60Hz to about 75Hz as the Axial modes between floor and ceiling. A 2inch panel isn't deep enough to absorb down to those frequencies.
The inside dimensions are 24" wide to snugly hold the 24x48" acoustic insulation inside. The exterior dimensions with the lumber I use is 27 1/8th inches. Thanks for watching!
@sound headquarters Nice video, but you could really save yourself so much time and effort if you just stained that trim before installing it. Then just go back and touch up the cut edges after install.
Thank you! Yes this would have saved us time and effort indeed, our client decided upon final stain colour after we began on the trim work. Next time around we will employ that method. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Wrong. He’s using the rigid for the bass absorption, though the rigid front makes it flatter. It won’t affect the bass absorption through, as the sub is omnidirectional and does not care about the front. You could even go with a full plastic front and it would still do it’s job. I’d probably not do that though :P
@@BeatsByEndless bro what are u talking about nobody is caring about the front back or the side , your saying pointless thing. I'm saying using anything rigid for a bass trap is a waste.
Excellent work!
Thank you! Thanks for watching
Sick! So inspiring, masks me want to build something decorative and functional
Go for it! Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
Amazing and unique approach. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thank you! Thanks for watching
Waterfall graphs before and after would be good
Love your channel !! thanks for the tips . now to see what a mess i can make 🤣
Haha that's the fun part! Thanks and enjoy your builds
Do you have a link to the crushed velvet fabric you use?
💎 pattern is crazy
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What can I do to Increase bass outdoors like inside the House. I get a drop off more than 80% bass out in the bavk porch. Can I build walls from wood around the box outside to reflect sound and simulate cabin gain lime in a cat or something like that ?
Any help would be appreciated 🙏
If the sound pressure is contained, then you should retain more low end energy. Building an enclosure around your back porch may be more time/work/money than moving more air with a larger subwoofer. Outdoor PA systems usually have very large subwoofers! Could be a good excuse for adding another subwoofer, hopefully your neighbours don't mind ;) Thank you for watching and commenting!
Great information. I must mention, Rockwool is a good product and safe when not being disturbed however when working with Rockwool which is a mineral wool fibre that is used to replace asbestos, a person should wear at least a half mask equipped for particulate’s. Without it you won’t feel anything now but that stuff will wreak havoc on one’s respiratory system later as a person ages.
Thank you for your comment! Indeed I do not always use best practices when I work, you are correct and my own health is one matter but I certainly don't want to influence others poorly. I have some previously filmed videos already scheduled for release, but I will be wearing mask moving forward for future jobs I film. Thanks for watching and engaging I appreciate it!
I've been thinking of building those kind of corner bass traps but i've never thought that they could be build straight to the wall. I've always thought that i need to build them first and later just install the trap to the corner..
I offer this method to clients who want a permanent installation and the wood trim offers them more personalization. Building them first then installing is a great option to keep the trap modular. Either way same amount of absorption in the same position. Thanks for watching!
Can you record some popular song before and after installation bass traps?
Do you have an air gap behind the rockwool or does this application not need that?
These traps do not have an air gap. This style gives extra absorption from fully filling out the corner with acoustic insulation. These ones are a more permanent version I offer for clients, however we have other videos showing how to build more modular corner panels that have the air gap. Thanks for watching!
Very nice!
How did you attach the frame at an angle to corner wall? What kinda brackets and/or anchors?
I just used 3 inch construction screws into the drywall, I pre drilled the frame and measured where the 45 degree angle is true and drilled into the wall. Since it's not structural, and is secured on both sides and the top section of the frame, the construction screws into the drywall more than enough to keep the bass trap in place. Thanks for watching!
What is the thickness of the Rockwool Safe n Sound?
The safe n sound is 3 inch thick
How big was the room?
How come some ppl put their bass trap all the way up and some don’t
Were them installed on drywall?
Did you take before and after measurements? You said you got better performance. What does that mean? Better performance, how?
We did not take any measurements for this clients job, but that indeed would be a great idea for a future video! That video can do some before and after RT60 and waterfall tests to better quantify the performance increases. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Why didn't you stain the wood prior to cutting it?
This indeed would have saved us some time and effort! We wanted to cut and test fit as we went along with the build, and our client chose final stain colour after trim was installed. Thanks for watching!
Nice
Great video and very informative! I noticed you cut the rockwool in strips that leave a gap at the front then put the comfortboard as opposed to cutting perfect fit triangles that stack on tip of each other that fill the entire space then maybe the comfortboard as well. Is there a preference, time/cost saving, or sound dampening reason for this? Thank you 😊
Thank you John! My rationale for this was since the comfort board has about double the density of the safe'n'sound, and the small gaps added up are roughly equal to one or two full triangle of space that the absorption would be comparable with either method. I like having the comfort board on the outside face so that the fabric is rigid to the touch rather than squishy if only filled with safe'n'sound. It did certainly save some time and cutting of the safensound as well! Thanks for watching and engaging :)
What frequencies do you think are considered "Bass Frequencies"? How did you determine that those frequencies giving you the problem are in the corner? How did you determine that the product you are building is capable of absorbing enough energy at those frequencies, going to be enough surface coverage, placed in the right location and built to actually absorb the problem frequencies?
From my knowledge and research, the biggest problems in the low frequency range under 100Hz are usually Axial modes. Axial modes are unwanted frequencies between 2 parallel walls, not 2 parallel corners. In small room, low frequencies giving problem usually start in the 30Hz to 50Hz range depending on the dimensions of the walls. Corners only represent maybe 5% of the surface. With ceilings in the 7ft to 9ft range usually have low frequency problems between around 60Hz to about 75Hz as the Axial modes between floor and ceiling. A 2inch panel isn't deep enough to absorb down to those frequencies.
Density rockwool????
For this job used rockwool products safe'n'sound, as well as comfortboard 80. Density and frequency charts available on their website
Great job guys! Are the inside or outside frame dimensions on the Bass Traps 24" wide? Thanks in advance!
The inside dimensions are 24" wide to snugly hold the 24x48" acoustic insulation inside. The exterior dimensions with the lumber I use is 27 1/8th inches. Thanks for watching!
@sound headquarters Nice video, but you could really save yourself so much time and effort if you just stained that trim before installing it. Then just go back and touch up the cut edges after install.
Thank you! Yes this would have saved us time and effort indeed, our client decided upon final stain colour after we began on the trim work. Next time around we will employ that method. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Wow if thats a bass trap im santa
This is not right. Using rigid ROCKWOOL for "base traps" is a waste, u can use the cheaper more airy one for low frequency absorption
Wrong. He’s using the rigid for the bass absorption, though the rigid front makes it flatter. It won’t affect the bass absorption through, as the sub is omnidirectional and does not care about the front. You could even go with a full plastic front and it would still do it’s job. I’d probably not do that though :P
@@BeatsByEndless bro what are u talking about nobody is caring about the front back or the side , your saying pointless thing. I'm saying using anything rigid for a bass trap is a waste.
@@roccitysoundllc3404 Is that true? I read tha comfort board 80 is not good for bass trapping. Too high density. His board might ruin the effect.
Can you record some popular song before and after installation bass traps?
Can you record some popular song before and after installation bass traps?