They sound equal. I´m listening on a professional recording studio with analog Mackie mixer, Alesis and all professional stuff. No perceptible differences here. Some little differences are due to the playing itself, which never is the same twice.
Check your ears my friend. You need earphones when comparing them side by side and not some mackie mixer🤣. Alesis is more of a consumer brand and not exactly for professional. And stating brands won't mean you have good ears😂
If you are an 80s early 90s LOVER this is a synth for you. My favourite patches are EP & PADS. Very Crystal sounds, clean...just perfect...I love my MOX6.
Nice comparison. They sounds exactly the same for me. Listening to the comparison without looking at the video I can't even tell when you change between keyboards.
The MoXF has exactly the same sounds as the Motif XF, except for the sampling capabilities. What I like about the Moxf is the weight, it's very light while the XF, even the 6 is quite heavy.
But the MODX also has all the MOTIF sounds, unless you have tried the MODX and it sounded different to you, because as I said, all these sounds are in the MODX
Just bought one and I love it!!! I have a Korg M3 and needed something lighter without compromising functionality, quality and power. One of the differences in the sound is the weighted action vs synth action. In all my years of playing, I've played the same boards in various sizes 61, 73, and 88 note; and the weighted versions always sounded more fuller and heavier. Also, the converters in the Motif XF are different than the MOXF. Other than that, they have the same Wave Rom and the Motif XF can play 16 parts at once in performance mode vs 4 on the MOXF. However, you can create 16 part performances in Song mode. Other than that, I'm absolutely satisfied and can't wait to use both my M3 and MOXF simultaneously.
I don't even know what sounds we are hearing. Are they coming from the main outputs or are they coming through the USB port into the computer? Maybe this is all fake marketing to make you rush to the shops and buy a MOXF.
@@TheTruthIsFiction It's literally the same sound engine. It's cheaper because it's got less robust housing/buttons/display, 1 flash expansion slot instead of 2, less features, etc. MOXF is also made in China whereas Motif was made in Japan.
After owning every motif ever made.. I discovered the difference is when you compare the 8 to the 7 or the 6. There's a difference in the lower range that will make you think an entire octave is missing from the six or seven.. Also the 8's appear to put out more audio power than the other boards... I've programmed my xs8 and xs6 exactly the same.. But the items i mentioned earlier plays a role in making my 6 sound like a toy! Seriously!!!!
Very similar but very subtle difference. I thought it was most obvious during the drum kits at the end -- the XF kick drum sounded rounder to my ears. I love my MOXF8. 30lbs less and sounds 95% as good -- that fits my bill!
YAMAHA clearly stated that the both have the exact same sound engine. So, how is it different, or one better than the other? IMO, the MOXF is a better value for money.
Engine is not the only thing that makes sound. Analog circuit and converters play a huge role.this is why motif sounds better - better components, converters and their algorithms.
Editing capabilities is the main difference. Just do a little research. It’s out here online if you choose to do that over making outlandish statements about their being no difference in the sound capabilities.
I have on Sony earphones with outstanding bottom, balanced mids and perfect highs and the Motif XF sounds a little bit better...it's Warmer and Rounder, especially when he plays in the lower octaves. The drums are fatter too.
Yeah I'm definitely sticking with the moxf just because of its build quality..... Got them on a great deal nowadays even tho the Motif was hard to past because of the color screen Display which was a big part (finally added ) I'm going to miss Analog and digital converters for the price and weight I'm sticking with the moxf gigging board Same sounds, better portability and half the price! Awesome key drumming btw... Cheers
It's interesting how people judge. First you should consider that they both have identical waverom. There is not mentioned what the recording settings are. MOXF has an internal sound card so the recording from MOXF can be done digitally but what about MOTIF XF? How is it done for XF? Is FireWire board installed? Otherwise you won't have the digital output MOXF is giving you. Also there is always a slight difference in the velocity of the played keys. How can you identically play with the same velocity. This comparison is only good to get a general understanding of how they both sound.
Just purchased the Yamaha MOXF-6, it's on it's way, can't wait to start using it! i think i made a great choice!!! and saved some money at the same time!!
the difference between the XF and MOXF. it's the 8 sliders on the left which allow you to mix several sounds, the possibility of recording music that you have made directly onto a USB key in audio, more power also in audio output...., in short it's practice these options...
Very intersting test, thanks. The 1st piano sounds just exactly the same. The S6 is somehow better on the Motif though. The other sounds are 100% the same, nobody could differentiate on a blind test...
First I thought they sound equal, but... They don't. I had to listen very carefully to notice that there's a bit more warmth and presence on Motif XF-6 than MOXF6, specially in low frequences (probably some EQ would solve that). Motif is a great keyboard for producers, by its funtionality. To carry with me to the stage, definely the MO.
Mialem moxf6 i przeskoczylem na motif xf sluchawki bayerdynamik uzywam oczywiscie studyjne i powiem tak motif xf brzmi duzo bardziej dynamicznie wyrazniej trzyma poprostu ladnie pasma moxf niestety trzeba krecic ostro na master by podciagnac brzmienie druga sprawa jest taka ze motif xf gra glosniej leprze opampy moxf6 slabsze wiec odpowiedz dla wtajemniczonych prosta test fajny lecz test bezposredni na sluchawkach dobrych odczuwalny..karty muzyczne interfejsy w komputerach zmieniaja charakterystyke przy nagrywaniu sygnal przechodzi prze dodatkowe tory wzmacniaczy w interfejsie czy karcie muzycznej zmieniajac juz brzmienie orginalne z instrumentu dlatego proponuje dobrej jakosci sluchawki i kontakt bezposredni z instrumentem w tedy slychac roznice ale pozdrawiam
Mofx is a harsher thinner sound. Motifs got fuller rounder body, a clear winner. Im not sure why but my first thought was its due to superior converters and analog circuit on Motif. To a professional the Motif is the way to go. If you are an amateur and would like to save as much as possible mofx is good enough. If you dont hear these differences then obviously go with mofx
For me, the biggest difference can be seen on the position of volume faders. While it is on its maximum position on MOXF, it is almost on the minimum position on Motif xf.
wagner Silva You are right about the volume levels but I’ve owned the moxf 88 for about a month now and the volume on most voices are not turned all the way up,for example full concert grand is set at 100 you can set it to 127 by turning the first knob where the 8 knobs are and it makes a world of difference and it makes the voice sound better. I don’t think a lot of people know about checking that that’s why the master volume is turned up higher on the moxf plus it’s a lot of things you can change and tweak on this board and it is an amazing board if you really dig into it
Hi. I'm just interested in the piano sound differences. I don't know if there is a setting in EQ or attack control but to me MOXF has slightly more defined attack content and as a result makes the sound perceive more dynamic and more open sounding, and MOTIF sounds just slightly compressed or slightly less detailed. There is a little low mid frequency accumulation in MOTIF that may perceive fuller sound but when playing many notes it ends up hearing more note separation with MOXF (more transparent). These are differences of less than 10 percent so I doubt it would matter for the performance. However, if you had pianissimo playback of a note or a chord (without the pedal) and just hold the keys to hear the natural volume drop, you could compare the resolution and realism of the notes a bit better. A lot of decent and above piano sounds do well with velocities in the upper half of the range and reveal their weaknesses on soft and very soft notes.
people just convince themselves its different to justify what they paid for the regular motif. which they are not different its the same sound engine and same sound set sound for sound. plus it has flash and direct usb hookup to your computer which makes it have a built in interface so it actually outshines the regular motif in this area and best part you can get the 88 key for 1300 to 1500 brand new its a no brainer to me i have both the motif xf and the moxf one for gigs and one for the studio
Jeremi Licata I use the motif xf for midi a lot but I been primarily using native instruments in the last two years. And the motif is for controlling Omnisphere and on occasions I still love the Yamaha sounds as well
Richard Noel ohhh man so you would rather use the native instruments piano then the sound from the motif Xf?? Why wouldn’t you just buy a cheap heavy weighted keyboard to use for midi instead?? I’m trying to find the best option for the studio. I appreciate it bro!
Jeremi Licata I vary my set up I primarily do a lot of today r&b and hip hop. If your trying to get the most bang for your buck but want a powerful set up. I would go this route if it was me. I use the native instruments stuff a lot because it’s really good. I am a big Yamaha motif guy but the pianos that omnisphere has nowadays is just straight crazy. My set up is apple Logic Pro x 10.3 and studio one 4 for my daws. Native instruments for a lot of my go to sounds and omnisphere that I control with the motif and and I still do use the motif sounds from time to time because I am use to it then I use Splice which is crazy for inspirational sounds to start songs. With all of this I am using a 2013 MacBook Pro that I paid $350 for and maxed out to 16 on the ram and 2 tb running a I7 chip and bro I am so good to go for quite a while. Just between omnisphere native instruments and splice you got sounds for a few years.
The only difference I hear is the velocity in which you play each keyboard. They both sound the same since they have the same sound engine.🤷♂️ The only difference between the MOXF and Motif XF resides in their hardware. the number of controls, the number of outputs or inputs and the materials used for their construction.
Embora os timbres pareçam ser e soar idênticos, na minha opinião Motif Xf entrega algo mais cristalino.... Tenho um Moxf e amo demais esse teclado. Em breve vou adquirir o Motif Xf. Assim poderei dar minha opinião de forma mais clara pois terei utilizado os dois na questão "jogo valendo" que será no palco e na mix
I watched this video from my iPhone. Listened on speaker. They sound different. Low end specially. Some sounds are REALLY similar but others (mostly synths) arent at all.. But I think the MoXF6 its ok for the price!
motifs biggest diff is its more transparent. its also more vibrant, way more depth and more brilliance. moxf sounds like evrything got muffled in the high frequencies.
I think there's a bit difference at the low end especially in the piano sound. The sound seems much warmer in the Motif XF or could it be because of the eq settings? Anyway, they sound a lot similar, almost the same.
It's my understanding that they both have the same sound engine. I own a MoXF8 and a Motif ES8 the MoXF8 pianos blow the ES out of the water. The MotifXF8 has after-touch which I really like but I am not going to spend $1900.00 for it. Nord Stage 2 or the new Nord Stage 2 EX are the best in my opinion but very pricey.
***** Try the Nord Stage 2 EX it's incredible. Kronos has many more sounds and is a different animal than the Nord. The Nord is a live set keyboard and not a work station whatsoever.
Had Motif XF. Was a bitch to lug around. Sold it and bought an MOXF with the flash ROM board and pocketed the 1500 USD difference. Carry this one like a backpack....
Próbki te same. Motif ma trochę lepsze przetworniki ale różnica bardzo mało aczkolwiek u mnie słychać (Scarlett 6i6 2gen, AKG Q701) większa dynamika, wygładzono góra, mniej "cyfrowego nalotu".
Única diferença é que o Motif XF6 chega inteiro no PA. Já o MOXF6 chega magro. Dá pra contornar isso utilizando compressão e pré amplificação, mas dá trabalho pra equalizar. Motif XF6 chega pronto no PA.
Thx for the video. I think that the XF6 sound is more rich. Maybe there is a difference in the keybeds which makes velocity different....Check the EP at 2:47 for example. It sounds somewhat different. What is the opinion of the tester?
I think, the guys that say that they sound the same, are hearing with consumer headphones, if you use reference monitors or studio headphones, you'll hear that the Moxf, have a relative flat sound comparede with the Motif, which sounds bigger and fatter than Moxf, I think if your'e in pro level recording or so, go Motif, If not, go Moxf.
I am listening through focal Solo6 pair signal converted by lynx aurora. And yes, if someone is specifically looking for a difference they'll find it. The motif sounds lightly warmer, fatter. depending on patches even has broader soundstage. but I say it comes down to fx engine and analog output stage since their raw waves began life the same way. Even with all this expensive equipment I am surprised how incredibly close they are. So for all intends and purposes they are the same.
there is an identifiable difference and there can be a few reasons for that. including difference in fx engine, analog output stage or playing, like you said. but it's so subtle that for all intends and purpose it's the same.
Isaac Sanchez I was amazed when I played back the audio on studio reference monitors and Yes just quite as much as a little bit more clarity on XF vs moxf. But as a gigging board in my opinion it's a Okay to go with either choice.... But recording high fidelity music I Always use my Motif!!!! It's never failed even tho I may need help just lugging that beast around! (lol) cheers
The difference is that the Moxf is higher, so he can not play exactly the same. If you wanna a real comparison you need to record the midi. The velocity does a lot to the sound. and u tend to play harder on lower standing instruments.
I have listened to this synth today in PMT Music cardiff. I can tell you that the MOXF8 is different to the MOTIF XF, im not sure how this person is capturing but the MOXF-8 doesnt sound like the 1 he is playing, the one i used sounded muffled more muted sound. Maybe hes using some type of compressor or something to alter the sounds OR the MOXF-8 is controlling the sounds player on the MOTIF XF and in actual fact playing motif XF sounds. I decided against my purchase today and was let down by the poor sound on this unit
Lo estoy escuchando con unos audífonos akg de studio, y la diferencia de tono entre las 2, es tan mínima, solo en algunos sonidos el motif tiene algo más de cuerpo, y en los demás la diferencia es prácticamente inexistente.
La diferencia es que uno tiene mejor estructura física., yvmejir elaboración, usas un Top, y después en sonido son iguales... el Xf tiene una mini mina de brillo ... y fuerza , pero muy poquito...
To my ears Motif XF sounds little better..Warmer.. Richer..... Difference is very subtle like.. real diamond and American diamond! But MOXF is real value...
+Kiran Thakrar exactly, and also in the low mids, you can hear the mox is more thin, but motif fits more balanced. Yamaha always says, they use the same engine for all series like mx, mm, mo ... but doesn't sound like the motifs or s90 series.
Honestly I've owned both and have looked at yamahas website...all major audiophile arguments aside the motif xf has a color screen...both same expand ability minus fw, coax, and lan otherwise none...xf is also no longer made due to the montage...if you like the xf just get the rack mount board and an awesome midi controller...
Yeah I know...from what I've heard the rack has the same capabilities but if your looking for racks check out the integra-7 as a secondary. Hit me up anytime bro!
Difficult to know witch one sound "better"...they have the same "engine"...but the différence could be in the outpout's power, (or in the keybeds too) certainly higher in the motif than in the MO XF.
they do not differ in sound, they differ in construction material and audio and MIDI outputs. And on the screen, although the one on both keyboards seems horrible to me
same sound obvsiouly but definitely more power from the xf6. could it be the power itself or some eq differences maybe? or i'm wondering could it have been from the different output-input connections in both the keyboards. Anyways thanks for the great comparison video!
+Jade Pascual If you're just looking for a 61 key, you should go to a music store and play around with one, and go through the menus and such to see which is easier to work with. But for the price point of the XF6, I'd just go for the MOXF8 to have the 88 keys.
I have MOXF6 (with flashcard). Thinking about replace with Jupiter 50. JP50 feels great touching. ( better than moxf6) My set up Nord Stage 2 HP76 Yamaha Moxf6 Access Virus TI Snow Nord Lead A1 Moog Miniature Novation KS5 Kronos 2 is a great instrument. JP50 has 76 keys which is comfortable for pianists. I will let go KS5, Moog, ti snow and get a Virus Ti2. Nord Lead A1+MOXF6=Kronos 2 61 I will uptade my set up but I change my mind everyday I 'm stuck:-) Help needed!
It’s night & day diffrence once you play them on real/big stages. I will never play a budget board on a serious music event any more. I learnt it the hard way.
If you caint ear a difference you need a new pair of ears or monitors! There more bass and high freq also more depth in the sound of the XF6! Listening on Dynaudio BM5a speakers and Yamaha UR824 Interface!
+Kenth Llemit Not exactly the same to my ears in the store. Even if the samples may be the same. They may be 16 bit versions instead of 24 bit, for example. Maybe the Motif XF has state of the art top-end DtoA converters that cost $100 or more... How could something that is 1/2 the price afford to be the same? Unless it's the extra features like Ash points out. When I worked for a synth company, they said the CPU chip inside the instrument was one of the more expensive bits. Maybe the Motif XF plays back at a higher sampling rate. But very close, and with its advantage of lighter weight and affordable, it may be a better choice!
A little late, but the moxf6 is pretty noisy and cheap but not the worst ive felt or owned. The Korg Krome has a quieter, slightly heavier action. I have both and just got a MODX6
They sound equal. I´m listening on a professional recording studio with analog Mackie mixer, Alesis and all professional stuff. No perceptible differences here. Some little differences are due to the playing itself, which never is the same twice.
+1... sounds identical in this recording... using KRK RP8 studio monitors, KA6 audio interface. No difference at all.
Tbr you can the quantity in the sounds one has more effect then the other
Check your ears my friend. You need earphones when comparing them side by side and not some mackie mixer🤣. Alesis is more of a consumer brand and not exactly for professional. And stating brands won't mean you have good ears😂
If you are an 80s early 90s LOVER this is a synth for you. My favourite patches are EP & PADS. Very Crystal sounds, clean...just perfect...I love my MOX6.
Nice comparison.
They sounds exactly the same for me. Listening to the comparison without looking at the video I can't even tell when you change between keyboards.
Praticamente nenhuma diferença na sonoridade. Incrível! Parabéns pelo vídeo.
The sounds are the same, but the Motif sounds better probably because it has better DA circuitry or even better clocking as well.
The MoXF has exactly the same sounds as the Motif XF, except for the sampling capabilities. What I like about the Moxf is the weight, it's very light while the XF, even the 6 is quite heavy.
You do the best reviews. I prefer both these Motif sounds to the new MODX that is lacking mid-range
But the MODX also has all the MOTIF sounds, unless you have tried the MODX and it sounded different to you, because as I said, all these sounds are in the MODX
the difference is with the key action. i have mox6, love it!
Nice, thank you! They definitely outdid themselves with the MOXF!! :)
Same sound engine only thing I would say is the motif is likeable because the drawbars and screen
Just bought one and I love it!!! I have a Korg M3 and needed something lighter without compromising functionality, quality and power. One of the differences in the sound is the weighted action vs synth action. In all my years of playing, I've played the same boards in various sizes 61, 73, and 88 note; and the weighted versions always sounded more fuller and heavier.
Also, the converters in the Motif XF are different than the MOXF. Other than that, they have the same Wave Rom and the Motif XF can play 16 parts at once in performance mode vs 4 on the MOXF. However, you can create 16 part performances in Song mode.
Other than that, I'm absolutely satisfied and can't wait to use both my M3 and MOXF simultaneously.
Great comparison review. For being almost $1,000 cheaper, the MOXF-6 really holds its own against the much more expensive Motif XF-6.
I don't even know what sounds we are hearing. Are they coming from the main outputs or are they coming through the USB port into the computer? Maybe this is all fake marketing to make you rush to the shops and buy a MOXF.
@@TheTruthIsFiction It's literally the same sound engine. It's cheaper because it's got less robust housing/buttons/display, 1 flash expansion slot instead of 2, less features, etc. MOXF is also made in China whereas Motif was made in Japan.
After owning every motif ever made.. I discovered the difference is when you compare the 8 to the 7 or the 6. There's a difference in the lower range that will make you think an entire octave is missing from the six or seven.. Also the 8's appear to put out more audio power than the other boards... I've programmed my xs8 and xs6 exactly the same.. But the items i mentioned earlier plays a role in making my 6 sound like a toy! Seriously!!!!
Very similar but very subtle difference. I thought it was most obvious during the drum kits at the end -- the XF kick drum sounded rounder to my ears. I love my MOXF8. 30lbs less and sounds 95% as good -- that fits my bill!
YAMAHA clearly stated that the both have the exact same sound engine. So, how is it different, or one better than the other? IMO, the MOXF is a better value for money.
Endy Ekpo one is more for presets and the other can edit the sounds more extensively.
Engine is not the only thing that makes sound. Analog circuit and converters play a huge role.this is why motif sounds better - better components, converters and their algorithms.
@@russellhill7694 really?
I'm listening through a pair of high-end reference speakers, no difference at all.
Editing capabilities is the main difference. Just do a little research. It’s out here online if you choose to do that over making outlandish statements about their being no difference in the sound capabilities.
Отлично!!! Moxf по звуку не хуже! Классные аппараты!
I have on Sony earphones with outstanding bottom, balanced mids and perfect highs and the Motif XF sounds a little bit better...it's Warmer and Rounder, especially when he plays in the lower octaves. The drums are fatter too.
Perhaps ears is the weakest link in your setup. The difference is there and I will blind test it 100% of the times on a phone and 10$ samsung ear poda
Same sound, good to know just learning the MOXF6 - steep learning curve with everything it offers if your composing but it's worth it.
Yeah I'm definitely sticking with the moxf just because of its build quality..... Got them on a great deal nowadays even tho the Motif was hard to past because of the color screen Display which was a big part (finally added ) I'm going to miss Analog and digital converters for the price and weight I'm sticking with the moxf gigging board Same sounds, better portability and half the price! Awesome key drumming btw... Cheers
It's interesting how people judge. First you should consider that they both have identical waverom. There is not mentioned what the recording settings are. MOXF has an internal sound card so the recording from MOXF can be done digitally but what about MOTIF XF? How is it done for XF? Is FireWire board installed? Otherwise you won't have the digital output MOXF is giving you.
Also there is always a slight difference in the velocity of the played keys. How can you identically play with the same velocity.
This comparison is only good to get a general understanding of how they both sound.
Thanks. Exactly same nice sounds. Great demo.
The sound is equal!!
Only differences I see is the knobs and buttons are in diff places but the display screen is bigger on the motif xf 6
Just purchased the Yamaha MOXF-6, it's on it's way, can't wait to start using it! i think i made a great choice!!! and saved some money at the same time!!
yes u did. im sure u already receive it. mine is also on his way. i sold my motif 6. motif es6. and mo6. now ill keep the moxf. price is better now.
+Jade Pascual is the sound between the two the same? Someone commented that when you perform, the mox's piano sounds sound more muffled. Is that true?
the difference between the XF and MOXF. it's the 8 sliders on the left which allow you to mix several sounds, the possibility of recording music that you have made directly onto a USB key in audio, more power also in audio output...., in short it's practice these options...
bom de mais cara gostei da demostração valeu!
Very intersting test, thanks. The 1st piano sounds just exactly the same. The S6 is somehow better on the Motif though.
The other sounds are 100% the same, nobody could differentiate on a blind test...
They both sound the same🔥🎹🎵. It's a Full Concert Grand from the Motif
Os dois timbres são lindos ! A mesma qualidade praticamente
First I thought they sound equal, but... They don't. I had to listen very carefully to notice that there's a bit more warmth and presence on Motif XF-6 than MOXF6, specially in low frequences (probably some EQ would solve that). Motif is a great keyboard for producers, by its funtionality. To carry with me to the stage, definely the MO.
I don't agree, so if you set the low frequencies higher more people would like it? nah, there is no difference
Mialem moxf6 i przeskoczylem na motif xf sluchawki bayerdynamik uzywam oczywiscie studyjne i powiem tak motif xf brzmi duzo bardziej dynamicznie wyrazniej trzyma poprostu ladnie pasma moxf niestety trzeba krecic ostro na master by podciagnac brzmienie druga sprawa jest taka ze motif xf gra glosniej leprze opampy moxf6 slabsze wiec odpowiedz dla wtajemniczonych prosta test fajny lecz test bezposredni na sluchawkach dobrych odczuwalny..karty muzyczne interfejsy w komputerach zmieniaja charakterystyke przy nagrywaniu sygnal przechodzi prze dodatkowe tory wzmacniaczy w interfejsie czy karcie muzycznej zmieniajac juz brzmienie orginalne z instrumentu dlatego proponuje dobrej jakosci sluchawki i kontakt bezposredni z instrumentem w tedy slychac roznice ale pozdrawiam
Great video. Moxf has slightly harsher thinner sound. Motif got fuller rounder body, overall better sound.
Mofx is a harsher thinner sound. Motifs got fuller rounder body, a clear winner. Im not sure why but my first thought was its due to superior converters and analog circuit on Motif. To a professional the Motif is the way to go. If you are an amateur and would like to save as much as possible mofx is good enough. If you dont hear these differences then obviously go with mofx
For me, the biggest difference can be seen on the position of volume faders. While it is on its maximum position on MOXF, it is almost on the minimum position on Motif xf.
wagner Silva You are right about the volume levels but I’ve owned the moxf 88 for about a month now and the volume on most voices are not turned all the way up,for example full concert grand is set at 100 you can set it to 127 by turning the first knob where the 8 knobs are and it makes a world of difference and it makes the voice sound better. I don’t think a lot of people know about checking that that’s why the master volume is turned up higher on the moxf plus it’s a lot of things you can change and tweak on this board and it is an amazing board if you really dig into it
Hi. I'm just interested in the piano sound differences. I don't know if there is a setting in EQ or attack control but to me MOXF has slightly more defined attack content and as a result makes the sound perceive more dynamic and more open sounding, and MOTIF sounds just slightly compressed or slightly less detailed. There is a little low mid frequency accumulation in MOTIF that may perceive fuller sound but when playing many notes it ends up hearing more note separation with MOXF (more transparent). These are differences of less than 10 percent so I doubt it would matter for the performance. However, if you had pianissimo playback of a note or a chord (without the pedal) and just hold the keys to hear the natural volume drop, you could compare the resolution and realism of the notes a bit better. A lot of decent and above piano sounds do well with velocities in the upper half of the range and reveal their weaknesses on soft and very soft notes.
people just convince themselves its different to justify what they paid for the regular motif. which they are not different its the same sound engine and same sound set sound for sound. plus it has flash and direct usb hookup to your computer which makes it have a built in interface so it actually outshines the regular motif in this area and best part you can get the 88 key for 1300 to 1500 brand new its a no brainer to me i have both the motif xf and the moxf one for gigs and one for the studio
I’m just curious, which one do you use for the studio?? And do you use t for midi or use the direct sounds from the keyboard. Thanks bro👍🏻
Jeremi Licata the xf stays in the studio it’s heavier lol and the moxf I will do a gig with it because it’s light compared to a lot of other keyboards
Jeremi Licata I use the motif xf for midi a lot but I been primarily using native instruments in the last two years. And the motif is for controlling Omnisphere and on occasions I still love the Yamaha sounds as well
Richard Noel ohhh man so you would rather use the native instruments piano then the sound from the motif Xf?? Why wouldn’t you just buy a cheap heavy weighted keyboard to use for midi instead?? I’m trying to find the best option for the studio. I appreciate it bro!
Jeremi Licata I vary my set up I primarily do a lot of today r&b and hip hop. If your trying to get the most bang for your buck but want a powerful set up. I would go this route if it was me. I use the native instruments stuff a lot because it’s really good. I am a big Yamaha motif guy but the pianos that omnisphere has nowadays is just straight crazy. My set up is apple Logic Pro x 10.3 and studio one 4 for my daws. Native instruments for a lot of my go to sounds and omnisphere that I control with the motif and and I still do use the motif sounds from time to time because I am use to it then I use Splice which is crazy for inspirational sounds to start songs. With all of this I am using a 2013 MacBook Pro that I paid $350 for and maxed out to 16 on the ram and 2 tb running a I7 chip and bro I am so good to go for quite a while. Just between omnisphere native instruments and splice you got sounds for a few years.
The only difference I hear is the velocity in which you play each keyboard. They both sound the same since they have the same sound engine.🤷♂️ The only difference between the MOXF and Motif XF resides in their hardware. the number of controls, the number of outputs or inputs and the materials used for their construction.
Embora os timbres pareçam ser e soar idênticos, na minha opinião Motif Xf entrega algo mais cristalino....
Tenho um Moxf e amo demais esse teclado. Em breve vou adquirir o Motif Xf. Assim poderei dar minha opinião de forma mais clara pois terei utilizado os dois na questão "jogo valendo" que será no palco e na mix
The Eps killed it. I'm an EP guy. The EP after the Rhodes killed me men... These machines are just powerful
Can you teach me? :D
I watched this video from my iPhone. Listened on speaker. They sound different. Low end specially. Some sounds are REALLY similar but others (mostly synths) arent at all.. But I think the MoXF6 its ok for the price!
MoXF is a medium-end synth and motif XF is high-end and way powerful
Thanks for this comparison, very interesting
Nice phrases, wicked drum playing! Nice video.
Não ouvi grandes diferenças, são quase iguais!
Dlaczego strój instrumentu nie jest w A440???
motifs biggest diff is its more transparent. its also more vibrant, way more depth and more brilliance. moxf sounds like evrything got muffled in the high frequencies.
I think there's a bit difference at the low end especially in the piano sound. The sound seems much warmer in the Motif XF or could it be because of the eq settings? Anyway, they sound a lot similar, almost the same.
It's my understanding that they both have the same sound engine. I own a MoXF8 and a Motif ES8 the MoXF8 pianos blow the ES out of the water. The MotifXF8 has after-touch which I really like but I am not going to spend $1900.00 for it. Nord Stage 2 or the new Nord Stage 2 EX are the best in my opinion but very pricey.
how about yamaha es6 vs moxfs? whats ghe big difference? which is better?
***** Try the Nord Stage 2 EX it's incredible. Kronos has many more sounds and is a different animal than the Nord. The Nord is a live set keyboard and not a work station whatsoever.
Kronos is a good match for you. It's a great keyboard,
Had Motif XF. Was a bitch to lug around. Sold it and bought an MOXF with the flash ROM board and pocketed the 1500 USD difference. Carry this one like a backpack....
sounds identical in this recording... using KRK RP8 studio monitors, KA6 audio interface. No difference at all.
Próbki te same. Motif ma trochę lepsze przetworniki ale różnica bardzo mało aczkolwiek u mnie słychać (Scarlett 6i6 2gen, AKG Q701) większa dynamika, wygładzono góra, mniej "cyfrowego nalotu".
Única diferença é que o Motif XF6 chega inteiro no PA. Já o MOXF6 chega magro. Dá pra contornar isso utilizando compressão e pré amplificação, mas dá trabalho pra equalizar. Motif XF6 chega pronto no PA.
Just like sounds, but the effects found different , pay attention in reliase they thought best in the motif
No super .... Brzmienia identyczne ... więc jakie różnice poza widocznymi
Na to pytanie specyfikacja odpowie.
@@muzykujkropkacom tryb performers chyba tylko 4 parowy zamiast 16 i to jest poważna różnica.
Thx for the video. I think that the XF6 sound is more rich. Maybe there is a difference in the keybeds which makes velocity different....Check the EP at 2:47 for example. It sounds somewhat different. What is the opinion of the tester?
I think, the guys that say that they sound the same, are hearing with consumer headphones, if you use reference monitors or studio headphones, you'll hear that the Moxf, have a relative flat sound comparede with the Motif, which sounds bigger and fatter than Moxf, I think if your'e in pro level recording or so, go Motif, If not, go Moxf.
I am listening through focal Solo6 pair signal converted by lynx aurora. And yes, if someone is specifically looking for a difference they'll find it. The motif sounds lightly warmer, fatter. depending on patches even has broader soundstage. but I say it comes down to fx engine and analog output stage since their raw waves began life the same way. Even with all this expensive equipment I am surprised how incredibly close they are. So for all intends and purposes they are the same.
there is an identifiable difference and there can be a few reasons for that. including difference in fx engine, analog output stage or playing, like you said. but it's so subtle that for all intends and purpose it's the same.
Isaac Sanchez I was amazed when I played back the audio on studio reference monitors and Yes just quite as much as a little bit more clarity on XF vs moxf. But as a gigging board in my opinion it's a Okay to go with either choice.... But recording high fidelity music I Always use my Motif!!!! It's never failed even tho I may need help just lugging that beast around! (lol) cheers
The difference is that the Moxf is higher, so he can not play exactly the same. If you wanna a real comparison you need to record the midi. The velocity does a lot to the sound. and u tend to play harder on lower standing instruments.
its the same. also the s90xs has same sound. i compared the 3 at the guitar center.
I have listened to this synth today in PMT Music cardiff. I can tell you that the MOXF8 is different to the MOTIF XF, im not sure how this person is capturing but the MOXF-8 doesnt sound like the 1 he is playing, the one i used sounded muffled more muted sound. Maybe hes using some type of compressor or something to alter the sounds OR the MOXF-8 is controlling the sounds player on the MOTIF XF and in actual fact playing motif XF sounds. I decided against my purchase today and was let down by the poor sound on this unit
May be there are muffled ones and not muffled ones. Mine sounds not muffled at all.
Lo estoy escuchando con unos audífonos akg de studio, y la diferencia de tono entre las 2, es tan mínima, solo en algunos sonidos el motif tiene algo más de cuerpo, y en los demás la diferencia es prácticamente inexistente.
La diferencia es que uno tiene mejor estructura física., yvmejir elaboración, usas un Top, y después en sonido son iguales... el Xf tiene una mini mina de brillo ... y fuerza , pero muy poquito...
To my ears Motif XF sounds little better..Warmer.. Richer..... Difference is very subtle like.. real diamond and American diamond!
But MOXF is real value...
+Kiran Thakrar exactly, and also in the low mids, you can hear the mox is more thin, but motif fits more balanced. Yamaha always says, they use the same engine for all series like mx, mm, mo ... but doesn't sound like the motifs or s90 series.
Exactly... ! :)
keep up the good work. I just subscribed to your channel. Thanks,
Israel Tig Thx
muzykujkropkacom can u layer sounds and save them on the MOXF? thanks.
Motif XF sounds to me slightly louder possibly due to lower standing and thus more pressure energy on fingers.
Exactly!
Thank you....This helped me in my final decision.
Thanks for the comparison demo! Sounds the same to me; what's your opinion? Nice playing skills, BTW! 👍
Honestly I've owned both and have looked at yamahas website...all major audiophile arguments aside the motif xf has a color screen...both same expand ability minus fw, coax, and lan otherwise none...xf is also no longer made due to the montage...if you like the xf just get the rack mount board and an awesome midi controller...
Yeah I know...from what I've heard the rack has the same capabilities but if your looking for racks check out the integra-7 as a secondary. Hit me up anytime bro!
By the way don't waste ur money on the montage...stage use only
lmao
Difficult to know witch one sound "better"...they have the same "engine"...but the différence could be in the outpout's power, (or in the keybeds too) certainly higher in the motif than in the MO XF.
has he used some kind of pitch change? It was just me that notice it or its just my brain
+Thiago Secundo Yeah it Sounds slightly detuned for some reason lol
He has it transposed up by a semitone
Yeah he does; it’s annoying.
Yeah man It’s not tuned bro! You have a good ear and so do I
Tech Hybrid Your ear is trash
wow..thats good enough for me..I m havin one..what a bargain synth,,I prefer it too to the modx which I cant take to egernomically
they do not differ in sound, they differ in construction material and audio and MIDI outputs. And on the screen, although the one on both keyboards seems horrible to me
La pantalla del Motif xf sufre de Ghosting tremendo
The pitch is higher. Why?
thanks for the comparison, I wonder if they have the same set of performance mode
Solo se que el motif xf tiene más cantidad de performances que el moxf
same sound obvsiouly but definitely more power from the xf6. could it be the power itself or some eq differences maybe? or i'm wondering could it have been from the different output-input connections in both the keyboards. Anyways thanks for the great comparison video!
XF sounds slightly better than the MOXF, but it's not $1,400 better.
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hi. which is better to get. i saw one yamaha xf6 used but like new for $1550. or a yamaha moxf6 $950 like new. which one will i get?
+Jade Pascual If you're just looking for a 61 key, you should go to a music store and play around with one, and go through the menus and such to see which is easier to work with. But for the price point of the XF6, I'd just go for the MOXF8 to have the 88 keys.
+Lael_Da so its not worth to get the the xf6? i actually dont need samples. i just want good sounds. and recording sequence tracks
+Jade Pascual so the moxf8 is better to get?
I spoke to Yamaha and they said the Motif xf has a 10db hotter output which would probably explain some difference in sound even when matching level.
Motif XF-6 sounds better.
Zero difference sonically.
Fajnie ze mozna miec yamahe xf 3 razy razy tanszą ;) :D
I have MOXF6 (with flashcard). Thinking about replace with Jupiter 50.
JP50 feels great touching. ( better than moxf6)
My set up
Nord Stage 2 HP76
Yamaha Moxf6
Access Virus TI Snow
Nord Lead A1
Moog Miniature
Novation KS5
Kronos 2 is a great instrument.
JP50 has 76 keys which is comfortable for pianists.
I will let go KS5, Moog, ti snow and get a Virus Ti2.
Nord Lead A1+MOXF6=Kronos 2 61
I will uptade my set up
but I change my mind everyday
I 'm stuck:-)
Help needed!
It is the same sound to me
It’s night & day diffrence once you play them on real/big stages. I will never play a budget board on a serious music event any more. I learnt it the hard way.
Care to elaborate?
Is the card slot on the back compatible
With the ES??????????/
I need to save some songs from the ES
And put it in the older keyboard
$1500 difference
Przecież one brzmią identycznie
No hay diferencia los dos sinthes suenan genial
They're obviously gonna have the same or similar acoustic samples since they're both from Yamaha.
Sounds moxf6=motifxf6 !!!
Same sounds but cheaper DAC, keyboard and materials.
Would like to see the MOXF vs MX-61
If you caint ear a difference you need a new pair of ears or monitors! There more bass and high freq also more depth in the sound of the XF6! Listening on Dynaudio BM5a speakers and Yamaha UR824 Interface!
Porsupuesto que si hay diferencia.. por algo el motif xf6 cuesta mas que lo doble que el moxf6.. el sonido del moxf6 suena menos robusto 👍👏
Motif xf a bit clearer. Sounds fuller and weightier.
As far as I know, they have exactly the same sounds...
They have the same sound engine.
+Kenth Llemit Not exactly the same to my ears in the store. Even if the samples may be the same. They may be 16 bit versions instead of 24 bit, for example. Maybe the Motif XF has state of the art top-end DtoA converters that cost $100 or more... How could something that is 1/2 the price afford to be the same? Unless it's the extra features like Ash points out. When I worked for a synth company, they said the CPU chip inside the instrument was one of the more expensive bits. Maybe the Motif XF plays back at a higher sampling rate.
But very close, and with its advantage of lighter weight and affordable, it may be a better choice!
i think the difference is a arp, sequencer capacity
If there is a difference it would have to be in the filter it sounds pretty much the same to me
Абсолютно одинаковые!Тогда зачем переплачивать?Бегом в магазин!!!
Согласен!!!
which one is the latest one? that has more sounds? I want the best one
I got the moxf6 but to be honest I hear no difference at all
thanks. but i bought the es6 already today. ill vet the moxf8 next year. lol
I think that there is a MIDI connection and that sounds the same sound source. I doubt that sound the same.
Daniel Milone, go to ur local music shop and try them out bro... they are exactly the same
Very nice comparison.
Could anyone talk me about the key bed action of the moxf6 please?
thanks
A little late, but the moxf6 is pretty noisy and cheap but not the worst ive felt or owned. The Korg Krome has a quieter, slightly heavier action. I have both and just got a MODX6
Esses teclado tem o mesmo sons