Ostinatos used by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
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Ostinatos are used extensively in Film/TV and Video Game music to help add excitement and energy to a piece. In this video I go through various Ostinatos used by two of Hollywood’s biggest composers - Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard, from films such as The Dark Knight, The Da Vinci Code and The Bourne Legacy. I take a look at how the Ostinatos are constructed and developed to bring excitement and motion to their scores.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:19 - What is an Ostinato?
00:37 - The Dark Knight - 'A Dark Knight' - Hans Zimmer/James Newton Howard
02:26 - The Da Vinci Code - 'Chevaliers De Sangreal' - Hans Zimmer
05:01 - Interstellar - 'No Time For Caution' - Hans Zimmer
07:00 - The Dark Knight - 'Trip to Hong Kong' - Hans Zimmer/James Newton Howard
08:01 - The Bourne Legacy - 'Flight 167' - James Newton Howard
08:51 - Defiance - 'Soundtrack Suite' - James Newton Howard
09:40 - Salt - 'I'm Going Home' - James Newton Howard
10:56 - Outro
See below for links to each piece:
'A Dark Knight' (From The Dark Knight)
• Hans Zimmer - The Dark...
'Chevaliers de Sangreal' (From The Da Vinci Code)
• Chevaliers De Sangreal...
'No Time For Caution' (From Interstellar)
• Interstellar Official ...
'Trip to Hong Kong' (From The Dark Knight)
• 13. Trip to Hong Kong ...
'Flight 167' (From The Bourne Legacy)
• The Bourne Legacy (201...
'Soundtrack Suite' (From Defiance)
• James Newton Howard - ...
'I'm Going Home' (From Salt)
• I'm Going Home
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Love! Just when I thought I couldn’t learn anymore about ostinatos! Thank you, Simon! Great video!♥️
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Great video, as always. I really enjoy to watch how you dissect these great pieces, making the "magic" behind them understandable for us.
Apologies for the delay but thank you so much for the comment, I am so pleased you have found the video useful!
So glad you are still making videos! Good timing too! Just got back at it and you pop up in my feed in the same week!
Ha, will try and get better at uploading quicker! Appreciate the comment, thank you for watching!
I've been waiting for new uploads for some time now. Thank you 👍🏿
Apologies for the wait! Thanks for watching!
Another great video! Thank you so much for making these. So helpful!!❤
they look so simple, but yet are so powerfull
They really are and ones you can associate with the film almost immediately. Thank you for watching!
Happy to see you again, Simon 😊 Welcome back! ❤💐 Thank you for the Video
Thank you, must be quicker at uploading videos to my channel!
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Thanks for the video! You made me realize again how crucial a part ostinatos play in the music I love :)
I am so pleased you have found it useful, thank you for watching :-)
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In simple terms the ostinato is the drum and bass of an orchestra composition: melody and rhythm, pedals and routes.
Excellent video, always full of knowledge and help to better understand orchestral compositions. Thanks!
Thank you for watching and the comment, I really appreciate it!
This is excellent. Oh the things you can do with an ostinato. Thank you Simon.
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Your channel is awesome, my friend! Keep it up! I'm addicted to all of your videos.
Hi, wow thank you so much, I really appreciate the positive feedback!
This video was fun to watch. Both informative and quick. Thanks!
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Thanks for bringing me the video I wanted! Thank you!
No problem! You are very welcome & I am so pleased you liked it!
awesome breakdown as always!
Thank you so much!
Very useful. I can transpose these ideas onto much more modern sounds into some of the melodies I'm creating. Great vid.
Thank you, appreciate it!
Here's an idea for your next product -- incorporating diagrams of the MIDI , or the actual files of these types of orchestrations and techniques. I don't read music so well, so this visuals in your videos are incredible useful.
Great suggestion - many thanks. Great to hear that the visuals in the video were useful - they took quite a bit of time to put together!
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Thanks for sharing. Nice presentation of music theory. :)
Great tutorial and well done.
Thank you! Really appreciate it.
Awesome! Great video! Thank you! Makes me want to write music! Keep up the good work !!
Thank you, really appreciate the comment!
The ostinato at the beginning of One Day from Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End is the best I've ever heard. Also the ostinato in the background during the love theme in the transition from Victory to One Day is perfect, re mi mi fa re mi mi mi fa re mi mi mi fa re mi mi mi fa re mi mi mi fa do re re mi do re re mi do re re mi do re re mi do re re mi...:) Another one is Chevaliers de Sangreal. Also excellent use of the French Horn after 2:18.
Jesus Christ, yes. Zimmer is a master of this kind of thing. I was thinking of POTC when I first started watching this video.
And for the record I'm a musical idiot.
Very helpful thank you.
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Thanks! Interesting lesson
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Thank you for watching!
Thanks for this fantastic video! May I ask which brass library are you using? It sounds really great! Are the strings CSS?
Thank you so much! I don't know why I feel so intimidated by Ostinatos---but seeing how simple the patterns are I am floored! Thank you
You are very welcome, I am pleased you have found the video useful!
Simple minds are easily fooled
Thank you
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YAY THESE VIDEOS ARE BACK
Ha, thank you! I will try and be more prompt with my uploading going forward!
I am new subs to your channel and it was a very useful and entertaining video thanks very much
excellent vid simon
Thank you!
very useful, hope you make more videos about cinematic music
Hi, I will have another video coming out soon!
Graham Plowman is one of the best composer currently, his style and originality is unmatched!
I love cinematic scores. I even had the Star Wars soundtrack by John Williams on record as a child....
Thank you!
Brilliant thanks ever so much.👍
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I love your videos, they are some of the best lessons online, I will be memorizing all these soon hahah, thanks!
You know what is crazy, me and Hanz kind of write the same way. I am just not so great at putting it all into full orchestra yet. You really should check out the music of the video game Hollow Knight, it is next level ostinatos in a few themes like Hornet theme is epic.
Thank you for your kind words! Yes I should really take a deep dive into the soundtrack for Hollow Knight. I've heard a few tracks from it but I think it definitely needs some further exploring!
Great video! Just a point to clarify, the last example is still diatonic but to C 1/2, whole diminished. So all still diatonic. Greatly informative video.
Good video as always. I've seen many videos on ostinato writing, but they didn't explain it this clearly. Thanks!
By the way, I've always wondered how to make a longer ostinato. I've found some good ostinatos (ostinati?) inside two of Thomas Bergersen's pieces, Wings and Humanity, both spanning for 4 beats (compared to the 1-2 beats in most of these ones). They also don't self-repeat, which most of these ostinatos do.
Humanity in 8:27
Wings in 0:57
Very informative, thanks very much :)
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Great video, thank you! How do you deal with delays when working with Ostinatos? Just shift them to a bit left or there is another way? this is challenging, to perfectly sync with the tempo.
Some daws come with delay compensation. For example I use FL studio and in the mixer interface you can set delay times in milliseconds for specified tracks, although if you don’t know the exact delay time that is going to be tricky.
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Well done, sunreal 😮super👍(Hans Zimmer is my favorite composer)Interstellar❤❤❤
Really pleased you enjoyed it, thank you for watching!
What string library did you use for the Dark Knight and Defiance ostinatos? They sounded very good, and the Dark Knight one was spot on as well
Thanks for this detailed analysis, but... how do these simple ostinato patterns create a certain mood or emotion? Or which kind of ostinato do I need to create emotions like tension, fear or relief?
great video
Thank you so much!
nice! what library are you using for the strings?
Nice video! What plugin do you use for the ostinato?
I personally do not really need the lower part of your video but good content. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
what sample orchestra do you use ? Thanks
Thanks!!, One question, while making a composition and accidentally using an ostinato with those shapes, am I infringing on copyright?
Hi, I would try and avoid copying these as they are fairly well known but it is easy to do something similar by changing a few notes. Hope that helps!
The Salt ostinato really isnt chromatic at all. It’s a basic octatonic scale ostinato (diminished scale)
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Thats great
Thanx a lot.
Wich librarie did you use for the strings ?
Thank you - it was a mixture of Cinematic Studio strings and Pacific Strings
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Nice lesson! What key is the Salt piece in? Seems to be ambiguous, almost C minor/ or Db minor?
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Very helpful thank you!
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The Salt ost is fantastic. Is it essentially in Cm here? Or just chromatic/no real key?
thank you so much for this video, i really love ostinatos!!
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Writing the Da Vinci Code ostinato as a sextuplet is very confusing. The piece is written in 6/8.
And the only difference is it’s that little 6 at the top of every figure…
@@PabloSaavedra84no, 6/8 is 6x 8th notes per measure the sextuplet notation has 12. It would make more sense if written as 16th notes with no need for any tuplets. Writing it as sextuplets would imply there’s a need for them, such as the piece being in common or cut time. If written in 6/8 there’s no need for any tuplet
@@jackdennis9286 but in the video there is no time signature
@jackdennis9286 yes 2 sextuplets is the same thing as 1 measure of all 8th notes in 6/8 and another measure of all 8th notes in 6/8
@FreakieFan - After listening to the soundtrack I respectfully disagree about the piece being in 6/8. I believe it is in a slow 2/4. The way the slow melody moves does not make sense if counted out and conducted to show in 6/8. The stronger felt pulse really feels like 123456 123456 (2 sextuplets in 2/4) as opposed to 123 456 123 456 (2 measures of 6/8 with the strong pulse on 1 and 4)
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Hi, the Mac Studio is 24core CPU, 64GB of RAM and 1TB internal storage. Hope that helps!
What libraries are used for the string sections?
Hi, it is Pacific Strings by Performance Samples with a little bit of Cinematic Studio Strings. Hope that helps!
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Great content, Cowboy. I love this shit.
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Nice! Didn't know that. What is the difference between an ostinato and an arpeggio?
Where an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord, an ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord.
@@composingacademy8270 I see, very interesting. Thank you!
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Very Informative
Thank You 😊
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Interesting video, I always thought the repeated notes in the ostinato was arpeggiation.
Hi, they are slightly different, where an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord, an ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord. Hope that makes sense!
@@composingacademy8270 Makes perfect sense. Thank you very much.
what's the difference between arpeggio vs ostinato?
that a ostinato use notes out of the chord. In fact, almost every one that he show was purely arpeggios
Whats the difference with arpeggios?
Hi, an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord. An ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord. Hope that makes sense!
I come up with stuff like this all the time, I just find myself unable to expand it.
whats the difference between an ostinato and an arpeggio? they seem like the same thing, same purpose...
Where an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord, an ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord. Hope that helps!
Helpful as always!! Could you do a video on exactly HOW you program one in?? Fast piano playing? Writing them in a midi editor? A dedicated arpeggiator plug in? Some other technique??
The best way is to punch in the midi.
Hi, apologies for the delay. Depending on how fast the tempo is, I either play the ostinatos in on my midi controller or draw them in with a mouse. If I am doing the latter, I always make sure I am tweaking the velocities so there is variation. Hope that helps!
You make something very basic seem like a brilliant idea from a brilliant mind, this basic arrangement was made centuries ago.
Can you do a video about howard shore please?❤
You are not the first person to ask me this so it has definitely been added to the list of future videos!
@@composingacademy8270 splendid
Hans Zimmer proves you do not need raw skill to be a successful film composer today.
Because Zimmer has neither skill nor talent.
Let's hope that FLAME doesn't think they are stealing his Joyful Noise Ostinato..
Very nice tutorial and topic, but I felt showing or playing the sound from time to time as opposed to describing them would have been a little better experience, as it's difficult to see the point if someone merely describes a musical piece.
Hi, thank you for the feedback. I really appreciate it and one to think about for future videos.
Is there a reason why we don't simply call these an arpeggio? Especially when they hit every quarter note.
an ostinato can be thought of/made with an arpeggiated chord, but a piece of music can have a sequence of arpeggios that aren't one pattern repeated over and over
another thing that can happen is that someone can write an ostinato to remain on the same set of notes even when the underlying harmony changes
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Ostinati
Ostinatos pretty much define the superhero sound...
Absolutely! Thank you for watching!
And great white sharks
It's been a stole motif for action and thrillers since the 30s. You're correct in saying it's now almost a cliche of superhero flicks.
@@tonycowin I think they are all copying the Elfman score on the Burton batman...
@@xuxuang8574 Yeah good shout. That seems to have set a trend.
so all movie music is one big ostinato, quite obstinate indeed
Fun fact: James Newton Howard composed The Dark Knight and Defiance in the same year
Yes, a very talented composer who can effortlessly switch styles. I have known him to write 4 contrasting scores simultaneously! :-)
Why are these not called arpeggios?
Don't over think it.
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Sounds like an arpeggio.
Hi, they are very similar. Where an arpeggio sticks to notes of a chord, an ostinato is a repeating sequence of notes, which could use additional notes not found in any particular chord. Hope that helps clarify?
@@composingacademy8270 Almost like wave sequencing in synthesis.
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Those are just solutions , in order to get nearer to a pop-sense of music , which is not what and how a true musician should impair his or her own sense to the Great Composers sense of music
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Sorry, but you're talking about arpeggios more than ostinatos, especially Zimmer's.
Sorry, but I need to say something else. The only reason why Mr Zimmer can get away with this is only be here in the US, specially in our industry, there’s a working figure called “work for hire”. This doesn’t exists in Europe. This means that if you work for me, all the intellectual property belongs to me. Another thing. Have you notice why all the recordings are done in Europe and not here in LA? Because the unions require that you have to pay for life here, while in the UK you just pay per session and that’s it. The same happens with dubbing voices. We do everything in Barcelona, where you pay only once, versus doing it in Paris, where the unions force you to pay royalties for life……this industry has a lot of shady stuff man……I love it though, but some things have to change for the sake of the unknown artists……
Another word for arpeggio Nothing new to see here.
Technically not the same.