Topson looks better then he did in TI9, which is impressive. I thought he wouldn't be in TI form with the break and all, but my god he looks like the best mid this tourney. Go tundra!
Typical Tundra strat: 1. Pick 1 or 2 global hero 2. Have a non-impressive laning phase. 3. Lose in Kill count but has a higher net worth. 4. Win Late Game.
tundra line up consist -treant, tanky support with hard lock and hard defensive against right clicker. -rubick, a support with long range and versatile capabilities. -bb, a prick hero that physical steroids damage dealer. -pugna, another prick hero with massive magical damage. -spectre, one of the raid boss in late game with pure damage. if youre not finish the game under 30 min, you basically f*cked up
6:00 The new BB meta is 1 level of E ONLY. Less damage reduction = more quill spray = more sustain and more dmg. If you look at Collapse and 33's match histories, they both completely skip leveling E past level 1, even at level 25.
Depends on the match, honestly. 33 max out Bristleback after the first 2 skills were done. You're more leaning towards carry-ish with that build because you're less tanky. If your team need a beefy offlaner, just go with the regular build.
bruh its because of break, if he doesnt have counters im pretty much sure no BB players would level passive to only level 1, you are right about damage but casters arent wrong aswell
@@erenyeager378 Bruh Collapse did it earlier in the tournament. It's intentional. The logic is that the spell lifesteal makes the effective HP similar while having higher dmg output. You also have higher lethality cos you have a much better slow and Armour reduction.
@@deeman010gdjto add up, BB's passive triggers after all the damage reduction at the same threshold across all levels. With that logic, lesser damage reduction = more damage taken = passive triggers much more frequently = more damage output = more spell lifesteal (octarine core).
that is nothing new other team has high amoujnt of break you dont max it, in low herald where ppppl have break and dont focus their spellls in high mmr it is skipped nothing new. just that in pro games they usually have 1 break.
It's the new BB tech where you only put 1 point on E because of the fact that it will proc more quill sprays. The damage reduction compared to maxing it is insignificant because of the bloodstone + talent build
1 point in BB passive. I saw dotadbowie do a breakdown on it. You get to deal more damage because of the lesser dmg reduction which allows you to quill more.
Bristle's skill 3, there's a UA-cam video explained about less dmg reduction = more sprays/ more dmg / more life steal. All pro players are abusing it but casters don't seem to understand about it.
People already said many times it is not the hero is broken, it is Topson who is broken. Maybe Valve need to nerf him next patch. Go Tundra! Go Topson!
@@righthere8338didnt play bb anymore in recent patches so not sure if theres changes but i used to keep it at lvl 1 especially if i wanna jungle or something
we might witness the soon-to-be the greatest role switch in Dota 2 history. I'm not trying to speak too soon, but that's just how I'm seeing it for now.
@@eetfuk3571 yeah... Hoping sacksa getting better.... If after ti sacksa back in tundra, there may other team that try to scout topson.... If sacksa still not playing, topson maybe stay in tundra
@@muhammadfadelalfitrahhiola1508 it was in the past, wasn't it? it's already been done, the sports moved on and its the new generation of talent we have now.
@@hillahub topson had grilled beef with Kaori in local finland pub. but topson only eat halal meat, meaning no alcohol, and kaori blaming topson acting like kid. Kappa
Kaori should've increase his 3 hero puddle instead of trashtalking. A fucking ex-midlaner has more impact and flexibility than him. Nine mvp both games for me.
20:56 Holyshit Topson on pugna is something else. Walking into 5 enemies while they are defending their throne. Most gigachad pugna ever
Pugna is not broken. Topson is.
the tip at the beginning, we all know Topson gonna F him up
My man Topson playing Clash of Clans to Quest. 3 Star-ing their base and killing them with an Inferno Tower. 😆
just finnish things
Topson: Pick me pick me Pugna
Sneaking: Let’s go..
Nine as 4 is like another problem to deal with. Still so smart and hard to kill. It's like fighting against 4 cores
Man, Topson's Pugna is phenomenal.
Topson looks better then he did in TI9, which is impressive. I thought he wouldn't be in TI form with the break and all, but my god he looks like the best mid this tourney. Go tundra!
No matter what happens, just don't tip Topson.
Haha i was thinking that when primal got the first kill and tipped. Do you want to dance with the devil??
Dogson is shit
@@sobuj2222hahaha, you're just jealous coz you'll never be him. You are the shit here.
oh my.@@sobuj2222
@@sobuj222266% ti winrate💀
I wish there will be a lot of matches like this for the rest of the tournament. Tundra vs Quest just like a grand final match
13:22 call an ambulance but not for me -pugna
We all know that Topson pugna is a menace. TI9 proved that already.
Typical Tundra strat:
1. Pick 1 or 2 global hero
2. Have a non-impressive laning phase.
3. Lose in Kill count but has a higher net worth.
4. Win Late Game.
Topson is a maniac in dota
tundra line up consist
-treant, tanky support with hard lock and hard defensive against right clicker.
-rubick, a support with long range and versatile capabilities.
-bb, a prick hero that physical steroids damage dealer.
-pugna, another prick hero with massive magical damage.
-spectre, one of the raid boss in late game with pure damage.
if youre not finish the game under 30 min, you basically f*cked up
Topson pugma at TI masterpiece
Broken topson with pugna
send shivers down to my spine.. that goddamn pugna!
WHAT A FUCKING GAME!!! I'M LITERALLY HAVING GOOSEBUMPS EVERY FIGHT!!!
topson the only one who plays pugna(dead hero) in ti
tundra has discipline. i think they go far in this tournament
I'm gonna said it, but Topson SUCKS
because he plays Pugna, you know, because Pugna sucks his enemies
Suck with life drain?😂
Good one😊
I'm gonna suck Topson's gigachad ward
Nine and Topson in one team is so broken
If Topson wins his 3rd TI maybe he becomes the goat of dota 😊
He has 100% winrate
He already is
@@abdulmuqsite6786 love topson but no, they lost to Spirit in TI 10, so not 100% winrate
@@mrhwangmiyoung24100% winrate in finals
@@mrhwangmiyoung24 nah i mean he won every single ti he has ever been in
@@abdulmuqsite6786 exactly. They joined in TI10, they lost to spirit, he was still in OG
6:00 The new BB meta is 1 level of E ONLY. Less damage reduction = more quill spray = more sustain and more dmg. If you look at Collapse and 33's match histories, they both completely skip leveling E past level 1, even at level 25.
Depends on the match, honestly. 33 max out Bristleback after the first 2 skills were done. You're more leaning towards carry-ish with that build because you're less tanky. If your team need a beefy offlaner, just go with the regular build.
BB leveled only once because quill spray comes out more often and dmg + lifesteal increases @5:55 , so casters are wrong , it's not cause of break
bruh its because of break, if he doesnt have counters im pretty much sure no BB players would level passive to only level 1, you are right about damage but casters arent wrong aswell
@@erenyeager378 Bruh Collapse did it earlier in the tournament. It's intentional. The logic is that the spell lifesteal makes the effective HP similar while having higher dmg output. You also have higher lethality cos you have a much better slow and Armour reduction.
@@erenyeager378 Collapse literally did it before this game and destroyed EG with it
@@deeman010gdjto add up, BB's passive triggers after all the damage reduction at the same threshold across all levels. With that logic, lesser damage reduction = more damage taken = passive triggers much more frequently = more damage output = more spell lifesteal (octarine core).
10:24 Pugna did more damage than their entire team! wow
The last 2 mins of fight was totally in chaos.
Topson, son Of OG. good job well done.
only topson can make pugna good late game
Absolutely, I think even PA can't make nearly 100k damage
@13:19 Topson giga raid boss
This is the most exciting game so far 👏👏
Look at the minimap with treant aghs lmao, they see literally everything
my man you should have included the first game into this
that one was a rollercoaster!
well im stupid for not noticing the separate video x)
Nine is an absolute monster!
Yeah, this series was so crazy. This video didn't even have his double Eclipse aegis kill
@@moorederodeothat was crazy man.Cant believe he managed to pull that out
Double pulverize at 12:02 is funny
Topson Pugna is a next level of master class.
13:18 who the freak is this beast
I HOPE TOPSON WINS WINRATE 100 PERCENT
Bruh Sneyking has more network than No!ob, shows how dangerous a late game treant protector can be.
What are they talking about at 6:00?
so many break from quest side so 33 skill third only 1.
bristleback passive level 1 only cause of the breaks...pro moments
Actually thats the new tech for bb, even Collapse Bb also lvl 1 3rd for max damage output, It doesn’t matter the enemy.
that is nothing new other team has high amoujnt of break you dont max it, in low herald where ppppl have break and dont focus their spellls in high mmr it is skipped nothing new.
just that in pro games they usually have 1 break.
It's the new BB tech where you only put 1 point on E because of the fact that it will proc more quill sprays. The damage reduction compared to maxing it is insignificant because of the bloodstone + talent build
19:38 a casual penta succ
omg topson so sick
Tundra vs quest game 1 and 2 is worth ti championship game pretty close game for both team but tundra survive.. Good game for both team
Wow! The damage is just ridiculous
Topson doing topson things
Did I just missed Nine's lucent beam to No!ob with aegis or you did not add that clip? That was a sick play from Nine.
Topson sending Kaori to airport.
No Nine eclipse 1v5 snipe :(
Neither team has a pipe. Isn't that weird or do teams not buy it anymore?
The item is shit. Waste of a slot.
@@Jmmm19how?
@@Jmmm19what herald take is that??
They dont have good pipe buyers. Bb and PB hate buying pipe as they have other core items.
@@parham1023yes, and how they counter is by playing fast.. but it dont work as intended.
I can't find this match VOD on twitch, does anyone has it?
5:50 what they discussing about? 1 point? whats that? i dont get it
1 point in BB passive. I saw dotadbowie do a breakdown on it. You get to deal more damage because of the lesser dmg reduction which allows you to quill more.
Bristle's skill 3, there's a UA-cam video explained about less dmg reduction = more sprays/ more dmg / more life steal. All pro players are abusing it but casters don't seem to understand about it.
They only think of it cause Dire has a lot of breaks.
I think they talked about BB. His passive is still lv 1 because most of Quest line up have break ability so no need to rush to level up that skill.
I wish they zoomed out the camera to see what everything was going on in chaotic teamfights
People already said many times it is not the hero is broken, it is Topson who is broken. Maybe Valve need to nerf him next patch. Go Tundra! Go Topson!
W draft . Really good for pugna
lmao... those lifedrains man... he DESTROYED them. What a goat
33 having 1 skill point for the passive is actually genius XD
Can someone explain why BB had 1st level on the 3rd spell for so long?
less damage reduction in the back means he shoots out quills more often from passive. basically trading off being more tanky for doing more damage
quest have a lot of heroes with break ability so it's not worth upgrading
Thanks
@@Hefzlol is that how quills work?
@@righthere8338didnt play bb anymore in recent patches so not sure if theres changes but i used to keep it at lvl 1 especially if i wanna jungle or something
Never a fan of topson but damn that pugna is fire
Nine really good at playing pos 4 atm... Tundra lineup this ti quite good
we might witness the soon-to-be the greatest role switch in Dota 2 history. I'm not trying to speak too soon, but that's just how I'm seeing it for now.
@@eetfuk3571 yeah... Hoping sacksa getting better.... If after ti sacksa back in tundra, there may other team that try to scout topson.... If sacksa still not playing, topson maybe stay in tundra
@@eetfuk3571im sorry, did you forgot notail to pos 5 and ana to pos 1?
@@muhammadfadelalfitrahhiola1508 it was in the past, wasn't it? it's already been done, the sports moved on and its the new generation of talent we have now.
@@eetfuk3571but you said "soon-to-be the greatest"? 😂 which Notail already achieved twice already. Pos1 > Pos5 omegalul
The audacity to tip your enemy midlane when u killed him at early match
LOLOLOLOL
THis aint public match
woah, i didn’t know Quest was this good
topson ballin god damn
2023 Still GOATED PUGSON
Smile on topson at the end giving satisfaction after primal beast tiping him on early game
Topson God, always a treat to watch.
Topson sucking their hopes and dreams
Many of you dont know Topson had beef with guy from quest Kaori in pubs. Kaori was blaming him and then acting like a kid
what happen in pub?
@@hillahub topson had grilled beef with Kaori in local finland pub. but topson only eat halal meat, meaning no alcohol, and kaori blaming topson acting like kid. Kappa
@@evanderrandau LMAOOO 💀💀
@@hillahub kaori didnt like that topson farmed too much as midlane, then kaori blamed him, topson responsed and kaori muted him like a kiddo
Ohh Kaori.. 😂 Flamed Topson in pubs, still cant beat him LUL
Topson TI mode is completely next level
Topson after eating durian be like😅
Kaori should've increase his 3 hero puddle instead of trashtalking. A fucking ex-midlaner has more impact and flexibility than him. Nine mvp both games for me.
so mad xd
the 4k gold swing at 9:30, insane highground defense
Topson was fcckng so good HAHAHAHA
TOPSON plays like pub in TI12😂😂
Nine transitioned to pos4 so quickly. You'd think hes played this position for years. Looking like old school Boboka with those sb plays
I mean, these guys are pros. they're queuing all roles most of the time I believe.
GODSON
"They don’t wanna play this game anymore" 😂
godson💯
Crazy game. Props to both teams. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Geeeez.... that Topson
for sure this will be one of the best series this tournament.
Its topias never tip him.
TOPGOD
Topson has acquired SEA buff
GG godson
Mission accomplished...Agent T.
Next update: Pugna Nerfed.
nah, nerf the player instead lol
If you thought pugna was broken then you are wrong. Pugna on Topson hand what makes it looks OP.
is this early grand final match ?
"Pick me pugna"
PSG from Ti runner-up and favorites to eliminated from group stage first day real quick,xD
Man PSG sponsored LGD gaming before Quest PSG.LGD and Quest.PSG are both different
Topson a beast
5:50 I don't understand
BB has only 1 point on his passive because almost all enemy has break.
Bristleback take more damage, so more quill releases = more damage output, he has spell livesteal, so he will heal the damage nonetheless
👃(Hold nose) pugna pick me, pick me pugna
Towson with Alien’s brain
Poor quest, they couldn't find the game winning Plays that they needed
13:20 pugna just sucking everything 🤣
To immortal rank players.
How would respond to Tundras line up from G1 and your team has that NP (currently patched NP) ?
I think Lotus orb is good
TAAAAPSEEEEN ❤❤❤
Noob is regretting tipping topson
94k demage is insane
why propet no aganim and refreser