in voice yes, but presence on stage completely non-existent, even Ronald has to speak because Diana doesn't know what to do or say, Charlotte imposed her presence and at the same time her sweet personality, Diana only works in the studio
@@JosueCS yup that called stage charisma but that's an easy fix. It has to do with confidence. That'll come in time as she grows with shows. I know Charlotte got better n better over time. Compared to 15 yrs ago.
@@shayxtreme Yes, but it's been more than a year, she still doesn't know what to do, plus she doesn't convey any emotion when she sings, that attitude even makes the audience uncomfortable. I say this because I went to the one they had in the U.S.A. and we all understood that she only works in the studio
@@shayxtreme yes this is the first year ever that Diana is on a stage, I would crap myself honestly, lol. I bet she will grow and get better with confidence and stage charisma in time. The other guys have 20 years experience, can't compare it. P.S. maybe a shot of Honey Whiskey (Drambuie) helps, honey for the throat and 40% alcohol for a bit more loose and confident attitude :D
I love it. I was happy when Delain came on USA tour. I got see them in my Mesa-Nille Theater Arizona. I was so impressed with Diana and boys. They played with so much energy and passion. Im ready for another round of Delain 😉😁😊😊❤️❤️💛🖤🎤🥁🎸🎹🎸🎵🎶🎵☀️🌡🌵🏜
I'm so, so glad that Delain is still touring and delivering the same "out of this world" quality of music as ever. With a lineup change you usually cannot expect the older songs to sound as you are used to hear them. Usually people complain about that. Now ... here we have an example of a perfect match, the old songs sound as good as ever, Diana has a great voice that doesn't stand back to Charlottes .... but people complain about that too .... Thank you Charlotte for many, many years of outstanding singing and touring. And thank you Diana for filling these large shoes without any space left in them! Of course this is meant to the former and new instrumentalists as well.
It is what It is !! some people will always complain !! it's what they're good at !! happened times and times again and still happening!! I agree with all what you said, I was there at this performance (Also 3 more times this year ), and yes Diana in Particular is outstanding !! unfortunately, I didn't get the opportunity to see Delain with Charlotte (as I wasn't in Europe back then), but Diana is every bit as amazing as Charlotte Is, in her own right and her different voice !! (which shouldn't be compared anyway) , and I still follow and support what Charlotte does in her Fabulous solo work, also for the other members (Ronald, Ludo, and Sander, and Paolo as a guest appearance ), they are all top professional artists, and great at what they do (also real nice people) !! Same can be said about Xandria as well !!
I wish that I’d seen them this year in the US,but I’m not a fan going into NYC anymore…..There is a better place Huntington Paramount on Long Island. Charlotte was amazing YES!Loved seeing her and Timo,Otto,Joey. But things happen.Diana is a different singer and to sing the original songs is different.She’s doing a great job with it. The Dark Waters album is her breakthrough album in a great band.She got this!And the fans have her back too.
If from the beginning Delain had been a band without a fixed lineup I would understand, but after so long with Charlie on vocals inventing a "project", it lost quite an identity. Diana is great, talented, friendly, and does her best, deserves all the affection and support, but I miss the old days...
What do you mean by "old days" and "project"? Delain is still a band (Martijn abandoned the idea of making Delain a project again) and its current line-up consists of 3 original members: keyboardist Martijn Westerholt, guitarist Ronald Landa (was in Delain from 2006 to 2009) and drummer Sander Zoer (2006-2014). Also on the "Dark Waters" album all the bass parts were recorded by their original bassist Rob van der Loo (now in Epica), that is, the only member changed compared to the "April Rain" album's line-up is Diana instead of Charlotte.
@@wecreatefoto7579 You can very much argue about stage presence, saying Charlotte is superior, but when it comes to vocal performance this is exactly the part Diana beats Charlotte. So NOPE.
@@martijnjanssen4419 Kan gewoon in het Nederlands.. Dianna lijkt op veel vlakken moeite te hebben met de zang en komt haast lucht te kort en zingt oppervlakkig. Charlotte heeft veel meer power en Dianna moest eigenlijk steeds even rust nemen omdat de zang best pittig voor haar was (gaf ze zelfs bij 1 nummer aan dat het ook lastig te zingen was en vroeg steun van het publiek). Paolo heeft voor mij de boel gered door echt bijzonder goed en overheesend over Dianna heen te zingen. Het is nu net als er een pop zangeres in een syfm Metal band staat en ze te haastig op zoek waren naar een zangeres. Charlotte heeft een meer classic sound en meer veel meer power in haar stem al is de ervaring ook veel groter. Het klonk nu als een zeer goede band, maar amateuritisch door zang waarbij ook sommige moeilijke partijen werden overgeslagen. Sorry.. ik was in Enschede.. Muziek was te overheersend ook en zang van Dianna ik kon er werkelijk waar geen woord van verstaan. Ze heeft een goede stem, zeker ... Niet voor Delain
Yes, they try their best. But I agree, when people say, that this is not their Delain anymore. Same to me...I saw the "old" Delain a couple times and was always blown away by their performance. In comparison to this gig here...sorry...the band now has no teeth. Sounds good, but the special Delain effect is gone in my opinion. It was not just Charlotte...the whole band chemistry was way better before the big split. Wish them the best for the future, but I'm not interested anymore to new Delain music.
@@wecreatefoto7579 Zonder die koppige toetsenist was er uberhaupt nooit een Delain. Je hebt je oordeel klaar zonder te weten waar je het over hebt. Erg sprekend. En die oude bandleden hebben zelf in 4 jaar bitter weinig bereikt. Die toetsenist staat na 4 jaar gewoon weer op Wacken en andere festivals.
@@metalmanfin6827I am not a fan of he solo stuff either, but that is not going to make me like hearing someone else sing the material she helped make.
@@WheystedGainzAndArtisticMeNot sure why, but I have seen this before. Wacken released a short 3 song clip from Lacuna Coil recently as well. Maybe they just want you to pay and subscribe to their site, if you want to see the whole show.
I was at this, walked away after a few songs. Not the same without the old lineup. It was also at about 12pm and it was too early to battle the mud, for this bland performance! From an old Delain fan :D
Ive completely accepted that Charlotte is gone. I love Diana
in voice yes, but presence on stage completely non-existent, even Ronald has to speak because Diana doesn't know what to do or say, Charlotte imposed her presence and at the same time her sweet personality, Diana only works in the studio
@@JosueCS yup that called stage charisma but that's an easy fix. It has to do with confidence. That'll come in time as she grows with shows. I know Charlotte got better n better over time. Compared to 15 yrs ago.
@@shayxtreme Yes, but it's been more than a year, she still doesn't know what to do, plus she doesn't convey any emotion when she sings, that attitude even makes the audience uncomfortable. I say this because I went to the one they had in the U.S.A. and we all understood that she only works in the studio
@@shayxtreme yes this is the first year ever that Diana is on a stage, I would crap myself honestly, lol. I bet she will grow and get better with confidence and stage charisma in time. The other guys have 20 years experience, can't compare it. P.S. maybe a shot of Honey Whiskey (Drambuie) helps, honey for the throat and 40% alcohol for a bit more loose and confident attitude :D
Nope ! I was in Enschede.. Charlotte 2 times better and breading Delain.. This is not Delain anymore.. But Paolo saved it
I love it. I was happy when Delain came on USA tour. I got see them in my Mesa-Nille Theater Arizona. I was so impressed with Diana and boys. They played with so much energy and passion. Im ready for another round of Delain 😉😁😊😊❤️❤️💛🖤🎤🥁🎸🎹🎸🎵🎶🎵☀️🌡🌵🏜
I'm so, so glad that Delain is still touring and delivering the same "out of this world" quality of music as ever. With a lineup change you usually cannot expect the older songs to sound as you are used to hear them. Usually people complain about that. Now ... here we have an example of a perfect match, the old songs sound as good as ever, Diana has a great voice that doesn't stand back to Charlottes .... but people complain about that too ....
Thank you Charlotte for many, many years of outstanding singing and touring. And thank you Diana for filling these large shoes without any space left in them! Of course this is meant to the former and new instrumentalists as well.
It is what It is !! some people will always complain !! it's what they're good at !! happened times and times again and still happening!! I agree with all what you said, I was there at this performance (Also 3 more times this year ), and yes Diana in Particular is outstanding !! unfortunately, I didn't get the opportunity to see Delain with Charlotte (as I wasn't in Europe back then), but Diana is every bit as amazing as Charlotte Is, in her own right and her different voice !! (which shouldn't be compared anyway) , and I still follow and support what Charlotte does in her Fabulous solo work, also for the other members (Ronald, Ludo, and Sander, and Paolo as a guest appearance ), they are all top professional artists, and great at what they do (also real nice people) !!
Same can be said about Xandria as well !!
Love this new lineup!
Looks and sounds great, would be nice if Wacken released the whole show.
Diana is fantastic singer ❤
One of the few cases, that a singer got replaced absolutely equivalent.
Welcome Diana! ❤
Bass and Diana is amazing
❤❤❤❤❤ tusen takk ❤❤❤❤
Bloody marvellous 👏 👌
Great sound keeping it all alive. Ol mate Sander nailing it on drums. Welcome back mate 😆
When Delain came to my home state I wa disappointed I missed it. I would've liked to meet Diana.
Not a single song from this year's album?
Seriously?
Visit magenta music,it has the full show and many more from wacken 23.
Exactly seriously
Well well lol
This is just a short edited portion Wacken released.
I wish that I’d seen them this year in the US,but I’m not a fan going into NYC anymore…..There is a better place Huntington Paramount on Long Island.
Charlotte was amazing YES!Loved seeing her and Timo,Otto,Joey.
But things happen.Diana is a different singer and to sing the original songs is different.She’s doing a great job with it.
The Dark Waters album is her breakthrough album in a great band.She got this!And the fans have her back too.
Differently? She has the same style, doesn’t even change the way of singing of live performances…
Really great gig !!!
I miss Charlotte,Merel,Timo, Otto and Joey. They were so good. I mean Diana is a good singer,but just this is not the same Delain for me.
I agree
I do not agree
Very agreee !!!
Very much do not agree !!!!
Not the same, But still sounds pretty good, Ronald on guitars seems to have pretty good voice as well
Not even a new song? 😮
I know right.
This is just an excerpt of the full show
Was atleast expecting something from dark waters so we have some videos for the new songs.
❤❤🤘🤘
If from the beginning Delain had been a band without a fixed lineup I would understand, but after so long with Charlie on vocals inventing a "project", it lost quite an identity. Diana is great, talented, friendly, and does her best, deserves all the affection and support, but I miss the old days...
What do you mean by "old days" and "project"? Delain is still a band (Martijn abandoned the idea of making Delain a project again) and its current line-up consists of 3 original members: keyboardist Martijn Westerholt, guitarist Ronald Landa (was in Delain from 2006 to 2009) and drummer Sander Zoer (2006-2014). Also on the "Dark Waters" album all the bass parts were recorded by their original bassist Rob van der Loo (now in Epica), that is, the only member changed compared to the "April Rain" album's line-up is Diana instead of Charlotte.
Впервые слышу новую вокалистку. У Шарлотты голос нежнее. Но у Delain отличная музыка и очень подходит и новому голосу, который неплохой, но обычный...
I miss beneath 🧐
She's fantastic, but i think Charlotte is still the best 😁, but i like Diana too.
It's same with Xandria without Dianne.
Not the same, we are the others. Chorus: you are not alone... 😕 Charlotte does it / did it much better
Charlotte didn't even write the music on that song. Only the lyrics. So to me it's still the same.
Dianna leaves most diffulcult parts often out.. Not only in this song
@@wecreatefoto7579 You can very much argue about stage presence, saying Charlotte is superior, but when it comes to vocal performance this is exactly the part Diana beats Charlotte. So NOPE.
@@martijnjanssen4419 Kan gewoon in het Nederlands.. Dianna lijkt op veel vlakken moeite te hebben met de zang en komt haast lucht te kort en zingt oppervlakkig.
Charlotte heeft veel meer power en Dianna moest eigenlijk steeds even rust nemen omdat de zang best pittig voor haar was (gaf ze zelfs bij 1 nummer aan dat het ook lastig te zingen was en vroeg steun van het publiek).
Paolo heeft voor mij de boel gered door echt bijzonder goed en overheesend over Dianna heen te zingen. Het is nu net als er een pop zangeres in een syfm Metal band staat en ze te haastig op zoek waren naar een zangeres. Charlotte heeft een meer classic sound en meer veel meer power in haar stem al is de ervaring ook veel groter.
Het klonk nu als een zeer goede band, maar amateuritisch door zang waarbij ook sommige moeilijke partijen werden overgeslagen.
Sorry.. ik was in Enschede.. Muziek was te overheersend ook en zang van Dianna ik kon er werkelijk waar geen woord van verstaan. Ze heeft een goede stem, zeker ... Niet voor Delain
@@wecreatefoto7579 Ga jij je nu maar met foto's bezig houden. Van zang heb je overduidelijk geen kaas gegeten.
Yes, they try their best. But I agree, when people say, that this is not their Delain anymore. Same to me...I saw the "old" Delain a couple times and was always blown away by their performance. In comparison to this gig here...sorry...the band now has no teeth. Sounds good, but the special Delain effect is gone in my opinion. It was not just Charlotte...the whole band chemistry was way better before the big split. Wish them the best for the future, but I'm not interested anymore to new Delain music.
And yet you are here...
@@martijnjanssen4419you’re like Delain justice warrior. Always protecting them against criticism. Wow. Let people complain.
@@dagonluke As much as people have the right to criticise , I have the right to criticise as well. Thank you.
@@martijnjanssen4419 you have all the right to do. But you should also practice not answering. I bet it stresses you out.
@@dagonluke Not stressed out at all actually, but thnx 👍
При всем уважении к новой солистке Делэйн,но голос у нее слабоват по сравнению с Шарлотт,хоть и очень мелодично звучит!😊😊😊
Esta chica clava cada nota y lo hace muy bien, pero el sentimiento que venía con la intérprete original se ha ido por completo. :(
Better with Timo and Charlotte. Charlotte's delivery fit better. But we all know whose band it really is...
Indeed. Not Timo's and Charlotte's band. And that is for good reason.
@@martijnjanssen4419 Ja band verneukt door de koppige toetsenist,, Zonde
@@wecreatefoto7579 Zonder die koppige toetsenist was er uberhaupt nooit een Delain. Je hebt je oordeel klaar zonder te weten waar je het over hebt. Erg sprekend. En die oude bandleden hebben zelf in 4 jaar bitter weinig bereikt. Die toetsenist staat na 4 jaar gewoon weer op Wacken en andere festivals.
agree. The problem is not Diana. She has a good voice. The problem is the band.
@@dagonluke There is no problem. The problem for some people is that they can't deal with change.
They were better with Charlotte.
Charlotte has already left, and Diana seems to me to have a great voice, she sings Charlotte's songs very well.
@@bassattackbwell that's your opinion.
I can't say who is "better", but Charlotte's solo career material is really bad compared to this.
@@metalmanfin6827I am not a fan of he solo stuff either, but that is not going to make me like hearing someone else sing the material she helped make.
The album with Dianna is way better than Apocalypse and Chill
Only 3 tunes, April rain is good though.
The set is longer, this is just an edited portion Wacken released.
@@chrisrauschning7376 why then?
@@WheystedGainzAndArtisticMeNot sure why, but I have seen this before. Wacken released a short 3 song clip from Lacuna Coil recently as well.
Maybe they just want you to pay and subscribe to their site, if you want to see the whole show.
I was at this, walked away after a few songs.
Not the same without the old lineup.
It was also at about 12pm and it was too early to battle the mud, for this bland performance!
From an old Delain fan :D
Wacken looks like LGBT party with these bands. Funny.
It looks like Eurovision that the same.
It's because the bass player has long hair
What wrong with Eurovision 😂?I love it.
does that threaten your manhood, stfu
@@stasa-X there is a pesverstating LGBT party to.
This band is a Nightwish copy! No , Nightwish is much better
Delain is very different, so i don't get the comparison.
Maybe I've been stupid saying this. I don't really know the band , but I'm gonna listen it and I will write a new reply.
Oh yeah, any band that has a female singer is a Nightwish copy
@@brnheavymetal😂
Of course not, but clearly sounds like Nightwish.
WOOTWOOTWOOT miss the old song like that u very have a nice voice =)