We Will Never Recover From This....Freeze Drying Gone WRONG!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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I have a friend who has that freeze drier and she freezes all liquids in her trays in her regular freeze overnight before she puts them in the Harvest Right. Works every time.
Wow. Sad to see you made the mistake of not freezing the liquid first. Very surprised this was not part of the instructions. Maybe you should have watched deep south homestead
@@randallanthony6138 : Your comment does have a bit of bite to it, but your point is an important one. The information is just not offered to new users from the factory, and every user needs to know what can happen, and what to do about it.
It’ll take me a few minutes to make a contribution here, but your concerns are so important that I will take the time to do it:
If you read the manual, it says that pre-freezing decreases the processing time. Nothing about this stuff happening.
The other thing the manual has to say about pre-freezing is that if you choose to do it, it’s good to have things frozen and not overnight, but for 48 hours in advance.
A discussion with actual factory personnel, and not so much of the outsourced-to-the-3rd world, offshore Customer Service Department, is that there are a few foods that will do this, and the list may be surprising, because they’re not all dairy, but can include eggs, and candy will do the same thing.
If we work together to get some of this information out, fewer people will have to have major cleaning happen with their machines.
For those who load their machines, and come back later to check on them, as statistically most people keep them either in a shed, or basement, it is possible to come back to find the machine frosted, and eggs expanded covering the window, and then blown back to where they turned ice in the back and clog the drain, and even the port on the inside of the back. The machines can actually then have the sensors confused, and they will try to sublimate the ice that’s forming as a result. If the machine goes more than three or four days in that case, it may have to be stopped just to defrost, clean up, and break the cycle.
There are no instructions for clearing that, but if I get a chance later I’ll come back and make a contribution here, because food can get in there, and it can become be a rich food source for mould to colonize the system.
And it can be far worse, because if a person doesn’t know this, and food ends up in the system and causes mold, everything that’s processed in that machine going forward could end up producing contaminated food, if it doesn’t actually compromise the mechanical function of the machine.
The fact that this happens, for those who know what to expect, what to look for, and how to clean it up effectively, it’s just a minor inconvenience; but, since the manual doesn’t cover it, and the people manning the help lines don’t use the machines themselves, it can become a real problem.
Thank you for bringing up this very important point.
A gracious answer. And important you did post your mistake so others can learn. I’ve seen video of soup going in the drier and not frozen and came out. Maybe just filled to full? How awful that happened and you two were good sports about it. Kudos to husband there pitching in with clean up!!
And Randall here has never made a mistake. Lol
Where i can buy this mechine???
Do you watch Living Traditions Homestead UA-cam channel? They have had the same Freeze dryer same size and all. They have had a couple different videos on it. They said that you can not do cream but you can do milk. Nothing that is real sugary. Can’t do honey because they are things that don’t have much of a water content so they said not to. Not sure if they tried it or was told that? Maybe you can email Kevin or Sarah they are super nice people and I’m sure they would give you any information about it that they have learned. Jason Brook at Coghill Homestead also has one. Just a thought can’t hurt to talk to someone that has had it and tried a lot of different things and can tell you what is good and what isn’t. Like they done green beans and it changed the texture of them when they added water to them and tried them but the flavor was good they said. Maybe watch there videos they show a good bit of stuff on it and the food also. God Bless
Harvest Right says not to put high sugar liquid content into the unit, as it has a very low water content, so not much is going to happen to it. Cream has a high-fat content in it, so it's not recommended. High-fat items like butter, bacon, ground beef (uncooked), etc., are also not recommended.
@@rhondaalbrecht How about cooked ground beef?
@@ritamccartt-kordon283 Yes, you can freeze-dry cooked ground beef. Just remove as MUCH fat as you possibly can... drain it well, pat it dry with paper towels. A little prep work, but doable.
I watch them too, and I'm saving up for my freeze drier.
Check out Living Traditions Homestead. They have some good videos on using a freeze dryer. They said they pre freeze there stuff before putting it in the machine. Love y'all. Keep up the good work. God bless y'all.
One of their last videos they said fatty stuff doesn't freeze dry right. Milk okay, cream... no
It’s okay, Jen. This video will help a lot people who also have a mishap with their freeze dryer.
I use parchment paper on my Freeze Dryer trays. I'm so sorry as I saw ya'll putting the trays in I was screaming in my head, this isn't going to end well. :(
Well that was a learning curve and yes it was a lot to clean up, but the pro's was we learnt from that too. I do not know if you follow Sarah and Kevin on Living tradition homestead, they too do freeze drying, maybe you can ask them question about freeze drying. I love Daisey's eyes they are huge and she has such a lovely face. Have a great week end.
Thanks for showing us how to clean up the freeze dryer. Now I can give it try. Thanks.
OH NO, YOUR CREAM!!! 😭 Looks like you've gotten a lot of tips on freeze drying here. I'll toss my 2¢ too, take it or leave it... When I do liquids I make sure to measure out 4 cups per medium tray. The one time I didn't I had veggie broth foam up, yeah, veggie broth. Also make sure you select that Not Frozen setting and have your trays in from the very beginning when when you push the start button. Prefreezing will also help, but I don't have the best setup to do that so most of the time I let the machine do the freezing for me. Anywho, Happy freeze drying!
I always pre-freeze my food trays in the conventional freezer before I put them in my freeze-drier too. Almost works every time. But Don't try freeze-drying Marie's Blue Cheese Dressing. The oil content is way too high and you will have a mess on your hands.
Daisy sure does have the most beautiful, softest, loving eyes ever. We had a few Jersey's on our farm growing up. their so dang sweet.
Wow, how disheartening and messy. Glad it could be cleaned out fairly easy. Love seeing my dear friend Karen 🥰 God bless the mama for being there for such a fun day😉 The mug looks great 💕 Take care❤🙏
Also for a professional side to all homesteading food prep and safety tips (I learned things and I've done this since I was a kid on the farm) see RoseRed Homestead UA-cam
I can tell you from 4 years experience. Place a tray in the freezer, fill with liquid, put spacer and put next tray on top.I lay small kabob sticks across each end and it keeps the trays seperated.
Unless you are a pro, you will spill everytime. Completely prefreeze all liquids( I do everything) in your freezer before you put in freeze dryer. It will not foam, things wont expand so much that are not suppose to. I sent you a link for my group if you ever need help.
Or you put your trays in that you're going to fill with liquid, BEFORE you add the liquid to the trays. Just pull them out far enough to add the liquid, so it doesn't spill while you're sliding the tray back in, as invariably, it will catch somewhere, so do it SLOWLY! But this IS an alternative if you can't get it pre-frozen in the trays in the freezer ahead of time. Yep, it's a learning curve.
Can I have a link too? We just bought one too.
@@AndyKrayenhagen If you search my name on facebook groups, its there.
Where do you find level space in the freezer? (Sincere question; I’ve heard people saying this often, but I don’t know where in my freezer I’d put them.)
@@lindalockhart1266 I have a wire rack in the freezer above the refrigerator. I can put trays on it and have room under and around for other things I want to keep in there.
I know that was sad to lose all that cream. But glad it could be cleaned up easily.
Thank you for sharing your mistake.
Nice to see people not afraid to share the oops moments.
I am grateful because I may have done the same thing.
Oh my goodness!!! That would have been so overwhelming to have that cream overflowing. My Grannie always said you can't learn anything unless you try new things. Chalk that up as lesson learned for awhile and don't need anymore lessons.
Just put a couple of cats in there, they'll clean it right up xxx
I've done whole milk and it works great. Always prefreeze liquids. Anything like ice cream must also be frozen when putting it in. I even make sure the temp in the FD is already cold before adding them.
Oh so sorry for your mess!! As you will have noticed now, liquids or everything really, does better if prefrozen for 24hrs or so. My cream from my jersey did not fd well. It was a fail. Very very oily. If you figure it out, let me know. Full fat milk does fine as does the skimmed milk, but only after it is frozen. Have fun on your fd journey!
I've done store bought cream (prefrozen to -20 in my deep freeze prior to putting it in the machine)and it FD well but I've never done fresh.
You can't freeze-dry cream as it is a high-fat content item... just like Harvest Right states... butter, oily, high sugar content (such as honey, syrup, et al)... do not freeze dry at all. The extreme heat in the drying cycle, as well as the low water content of the high fat items, is not doable. That's why they say not to do bacon, or hamburger, because both have a high fat content, unless you pre-cook the bacon and then drain it, pat it dry with paper towels. Ground beef isn't doable very well, either, unless you pre-cook and drain the fat off. Ground chuck, ground round, ground sirloin (80/20, 86/14, 93/7%, respectively) do much better because there's a higher ratio of meat to fat.
lol, We had vanilla bean ice cream explode in ours and I still can't figure out why that one exploded and the strawberry ice cream didn't! 😆
I am about to pull zucchini out of my freeze dryer. I didn’t have success with half and half due to the fat content. It is usable but not how I wanted lol. We just tried a spaghetti type dish we freeze dried, noodles and all. It tasted just like it did fresh off the stove. After zucchini is another batch of salsa lol.
Those blueberries would be great in some home made trail mix
And im glad you can laugh through that disaster, I would have straight up cried 😢
*HARVESTRITE* has Horrible warranty service.
Fairly good product but if it has issues. Your screwed
From what I could Google, those machines are so out priced for the average American, especially for a Homesteading family! The cheapest was just shy of $2,000.00!😱.
Exactly What is it's benefit over a regular dehydrator? I have 2 dehydrators and they do a great job!
Could it have worked better if the cream was prefrozeen. (Already frozen) just thinking 🤔 maybe .
Yes.
Live and learn, love and light to you all #swpg
What is great about this as in all life it is a lesson and when have than good outcomes we clean and try again... Thank you so much for your journey with us..
Thank goodness for you all! That will be 💯 me ( but with much more colorful language) someday, and now I know how to clean the darn thing. Love that you guys have no problem showing the bad with the good. On my way to check out new merch now!
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FFS, they messed up. It happens. Why thanking god or any other thing for them all?
Omg what a mess! Making those cups is amazing. Will you have online sales from your store when it opens?
Hi. I watched a video a couple of weeks ago, and they said to never put a high fat content item in the freeze dryer. They said it was not worth the risk of a mess. Another thing that might help: they would place the empty tray slightly in the dryer and then pour the liquids in them. That way you don't have to try to carry them across the room. Love your videos. Have a wonderful day.
Thats called a learning curve. You'll be freeze drying all kinds of good food like a pro soon. You all have such a beautiful place. You are living your dreams and blessed. I love your foggy morning feed time and music Zack.
Congratulations on your new freeze dryer! Awesome machine - I have the same model and have been experimenting with many things since last Christmas. Liquids definately do better pre-frozen. (place the tray in the freezer before filling. Find a system that works for you to stack the trays)
Your cream looks delicious! Unfortunatley, the freeze dryer doesn't feel the same way. :(
I have freezedried whole milk but haven't seen anyone have success with a higher fat cream. Sure wish it was possible though. Enjoy!
I think you could of froze the milk first in ice cube trays, then put the cube's in the freeze dryer..
Hey you two. Take a look at this channel. Retired at 40. Live.live.Simple. he has lots of freeze drying videos. He has done lots of helpfull hits. Plus he has a freeze dry store where you can buy accessories to help with the process. I have ordered his parchment paper and tray dividers and stray stackers...from Harvest Right I ordered the silicone mates to fit my medium trays.
Good luck. As a side note, I love watching your channel. Keep up the great videos.
Here's a tip I got from the company I bought my milker from. A little baking soda in the water helps to break up the protein of the milk and makes it easier to clean.
Ah...freezing expands liquids! Oops 😢
living traditions channel has down some good how to videos with the same freeze dryer. they also mentioned what not to use it for in one of the recent videos. it might be good for you to watch a few of those videos…hope all goes well next time
Harvest right makes silicon liners for the freezer pans. Makes removing the dried items so much easier
Hi 🖐️ just now seeing this. The absolutely worst thing.... I bought some sausage on sale. I precooked and took a paper towel to it, BUT the amount of fat in this stuff was horrible. I had grease embedded in the ice, around the tub, on the door and worst if all, clogged up the FD drain and we have it hooked up into a regular drain. (Converted an unused bathroom into a FD/ and storage room. So used what would have been a shower drain. Kept the sink though) My husband had one heck of a time getting the regular drain unclogged. It was more than a nightmare. Took me DAYS to clean up the rest. Advice to anyone, know where you are getting your meats from. Store sausage can turn into a horrid mistake.
Thanks for the warning, good to know!
😱 Oh Dear , so sorry 😣.
Your such a good Guy cleaning that all up😰👍.
Relax and enjoy your Labor day 🎇🎊💞.
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JO JO IN VT 💕😄
You can freeze dry your elderberry plants when they mature
Why would you freeze dry a plant?
U put way to much in those pans for cream to freeze dry
Next time you use it I'd start over with bread again incase there is any cleaner taste left in it. That goodness it could be cleaned though. Have a good weekend. 😊
I can not believe how costly they are, 35.000 dollars,you can buy a new car for that,i’D JUST CANN ,I LOVED CANNING ….
$35,000 for a commercial one, not a home-use one. Mine is the small unit, and I only paid $2,100 for mine with the standard oil vacuum pump, along with all the same accessories (sans 1 tray) that the Stivers got for the medium. I bought mine in May of this year, and if you go through a recommendation from someone who already owns one (Stivers??), you can get an additional 10% off, and they get a credit to use on any of the items in Harvest Right's store for their own use.
I have to say one more time, I love your place.
The Turkeys lol and yes what goes wrong are Lessons learned.
I haven't tried this myself yet, but I read of one woman who successfully freeze dried her cream by first whipping it until it was just like whipped cream, then she spread it in her trays and pre-froze it. She claimed it freeze dried just fine and was easy to powder because it had been whipped first. I may try doing it eventually but will only do one tray of it, just in case!
My friend freezedried lite cream cheese for me and when it came out it was nice and powdery but it soon became clumpy and oily so we won't try things with a higher fat content again.
DId you not put an oxygen absorber in the packaging for the cream cheese after it came out of the freeze dryer? That may have been the problem, as moisture from the air would start to rehydrate it right away. High humidity on the day it was freeze-dried is also a problem. This is why it's so important to immediately package up your finished product, get it sealed up with an oxygen absorber or silica gel packet in it.
Ronda I put most in mylar bags with oxygen absorber and then did 3 small jars with an oxygen absorber in each as a test to see how long it keeps before the fats turn. I opened the first jar at 3 months and it was chunky and oily. It still tasted good so I did not waste the jar, I put it in stroganoff. I did not open the others yet.
Red Rose Homestead does great freeze drying if you need help.
Learning curves are the pits but now ya' know!! Great progress!!!🙏💕🙏
Use parchment paper for easier cleanup!
Oooh wow..the blueberries look soo good. I get dried strawberries from dollar tree and they r the best.I bought some at target and the weren’t as good..I’d get my money’s worth of that machine just on strawberries!!!…om goodness..what a mess..looks like when I don’t watch the milk on the stove and it boils over..it’s a mess..u have the best attitude or either it’s because u r on utube lol but I love u don’t stress with the lil things..jens face would be mine too 🤣🤣
You both work together so well.Especially cleaning the freeze dryer. Good information 👍😊😊
I did that with cow colostrum once. Oh it was a huge mess as it exploded and splattered all over the inside😵💫🥴😵💫
I use alcohol to clean my freeze dryer
When you freeze dry liquids you must freeze it before you but in the dryer, put your trays in a freezer and fill then let it freeze, and then put in the dryer, and if you freeze things first the dryer does not have to do that step, good luck, and thanks now i know how to clean my dryer SMILES
You guys are busy as 🐝 bee's love the video🤷♀️🤣🤣👍❤💯
How to clean your freeze dryer 101. Jen was so funny when that cream started bubbling over. She said, “How are YOU going to clean that up?” Lol She’s like “stinks to be you, I’m going to get a hot shower.” Bahaha just teasing. Those kind of messes are the ones that you almost have to not even think about. You just get er done. Y’all look exhausted. Rest. Go get in the pool and listen to some good music while you grill up a steak. God bless
Hi lovely Stiver family.
I ordered my Green Stalk today. 💞
You learn by doing and ya’ll are learning every day in the best way. ♥️
If Freeze drying isn't working so well, try dehydrating. I did that with tomatoes and a few other vegies! I also have bruise salve that I made for family!
It's not that the freeze drying didn't go well... they tried to put in liquid into the trays and then carry the trays over to the machine to insert them into the machine. That's when the spillage happened. Either put the liquid in the trays, with the trays IN the freeze dryer already, or put the trays empty flat into a freezer, and then add the liquid to the trays. That's the trick to getting it done without spillage. This is just a part of the learning curve for everyone... trust me, I know.
Freeze drying is definitely preferable over dehydrating both in nutrient quality and palatability of all foods. Lessons learned only help fewer future mistakes.
blueberries and cream oatmeal. YUMM YUMM
Most everything processes better with prefreezing. Sorry about the mess but I always learn a lot when something goes sideways and I have to reassess. Mug looked great!
I like you guys you’re down to earth you’re real folks like me over here in Idaho the Real McCoy nothing fake. I love you guys. Keep up the hard work we all have mistakes.
Jenn, I always prefreeze everything thing prior to FDing it. Costs less in energy and you end up with a better product. FDing is a huge learning curve. Retired at 40 has a great channel on freeze drying. Ive learned a lot. ❤️
Oh btw: when doing blueberries, I use a meat tenderizer. The kind with needles. If you puncture the berries, They dry faster and with less error. 😁
A jaccard?
@@drummerlovesbookworm9738 Yes!!! Thats it, THANK YOU!!! ❤️
@@Eyes2C. I love ours. Use on everything that doesn’t behave. 😂
@@drummerlovesbookworm9738 😂😂😂
So sorry that your freeze drying project didn't go as planned. You both are always positive and always smiling. Thank you 😍
Dang A learning experience. Sorry it happened 😮 now all ready and sparkling clean. Love the cup.and you two. ❤❤
What a beautiful farm you have, so relaxing☺️ and the animals are amazing
Thanks for this video. I did the same thing and was trying to figure out why it happened when I found your video. I will pre-freeze all the liquids next time!
You shouldn't do a "how to" on something you don't know how to do. That's not how to clean a freeze dryer! DO NOT ever use BLEACH in the freeze dryer! Also no vinegar. Mild dish detergent only, as far as products. In extreme cases like mould, you can use vodka to disinfect after cleaning. READ your MANUAL.
Please don’t give up. Try to pre-freeze the cream first before freeze drying. It won’t rehydrate back to cream, but it comes out like butter (or so I hear).
THE PRODUCT MUST BE THOUROGHLY FROZEN...............TOADLY, COMPLETLY, ALL THE WAY, NOT UNFROZE, ETC ETC, HARD HARDER AND HARDEST THEN PUT INTO VACUUM.
If the viscosity of any liquid (eggs, orange juice concentrate, cream/milk) is too thick it will bubble over like that. In my experience either freeze it very thoroughly beforehand or thin the mixture. Good video
Oh man! That stinks! I'm sorry! Between you all and the acres homestead- now I want a freeze dryer!
Make sure you tag your cups for "hand wash only"
They sometimes do ok in a dishwasher, but no guarantees. I've been doing embroidery and vinyl crafts for about 6 years...I have washed a cup in dishwasher only a couple times to try it and it came out ok...but I typically handwash.
Oh NOOOOO......I'm so sorry!! I pre-freeze EVERYTHING.
Easiest way to FD any liquid.
Put any liquid in Quart size ZipLoc bags.
Do not use the ones with a slide, they will leak.
Do not use the ones with a gusset at the bottom, they will not lay flat.
Set the bags on your trays and freeze them.
Remove the bags
Put the blocks of frozen liquid (minus the bags which you have tossed) on your trays.
turn the FD on, let it get cold.
When its ready load the trays and start.
Let it freeze just to be sure it is good and FROZEN.
All will go well and the mess on the tray will be minimal.
The operations manual specifically says do not use bleach or vinegar for cleaning.
I didn’t know you had to pre freeze liquids. Good to know. I’m planning on getting a Harvest Right.
Such a beautiful place..it just says peace and tranquility to me. I sure enjoy your videos and your wonderful family..and I've learned so much from watching..thank ya'll and God Bless
I had a freeze dryer for about a year and as you where putting that cream in I was say "oh no" I freeze most liquid before freeze drying. Milk Eggs etc all are awesome I even done cheese and cottage cheese it comes out like bean bags filling
10:59 is this your primary kitchen or is this your freeze drying kitchen? It seems so tiny for all the prep you'd have in a main kitchen space. My cousin has a freeze drying/canning kitchen separate from the main kitchen...that's why I ask.
Are you kidding with the introduction- most of the video was a waste of my time. Please stick to filming stuff the video is actually about.
blueberry's are hard to freeze dry, i watched someone that said you have to poke a hole in each one so the freeze dry can get inside it. they have tough skin, like grapes you have to cut them in half, apples, bananas, strawberrys, pairs, peaches ,freeze dry great takes about 32 hours cherrys have to be cut in half,
Yep. Take a sewing pin and poke a hole in each one of 'em! They do freeze-dry well, but with a little prep. Or pulse them in a food processor, once or twice, just enough to break the skin. Grapes are great if you blanch them ahead of time.
Just for information purposes. Freeze drying works under vacuum. Causing liquids to boil. That's why this happened. Try to freeze all liquids before freeze drying them. This should mitigate most of this issue.
I just got my Harvest Right last week. I spent so much money on it I'm afraid of messing something up! It's nice to see it can be cleaned up (but it's sad you lost your cream). The first time I freeze dried a batch of food an unexpected thunder storm came in that night, I was worried the power would flicker or get knocked out, luckily the electricity stayed on. Does anybody know if it damages the electronics on your dryer if the power flickers or goes out? I heard that Harvest Right says you shouldn't use a surge protector with the freeze dryer...
SPILLS HAPPEN❗️ it is a learning process & not one human is perfect ❗️ Grant yourself some grace 💜💚🧡💜💚🧡💜‼️🧡
Love y’all. I learn so much from y’all. I have Etsy questions. I added 2 items. New at this. It was Suspended. I’m so confused. Help
Every freeze dry owner learns that lesson the hard way that liquids need to be frozen before the pump kicks on. Add 3-4 hours extra freeze time if your not doing prefrozen food. I’m sorry you had a mess.
I went over budget .. I can't buy anything!! But I know you'll be doing salves again.. so I'll plan ahead for future purchases.. I do want to support you. Mistakes have silver lining.
Cream has a high fat content when compared to regular milk. That might have caused the problem. Good luck.
God bless y'all. We just survived COVID so we kind of know where your're standind!!!!
my freeze dryer has a "pillow" that you place between the door and the seal. ? I've never had that happen with eggs but I've never done milk. I'd love to be able to see what's happening inside. But My freeze dryer is three years old. I have had flower petals GO ALL OVER inside when freeze-drying for my soaps.
Yep, ya boiled it. Make sure your liquids are very cold or start with a freeze cycle first. You are maaking me hungry though.
Freeze Dryer??? I want to know more about the Pony! LOL I have three of my own, and love the dearly! Love you videos, and your life journey.
Put your trays in freeze dryer. Put liquid in pitcher. Pull out slightly to fill from pitcher, then very carefully push trays in fd.
I learned the hard way
That wasn’t as bad as it might’ve been. Bleach is supposed to be the thing you don’t put in them, but for clearing out residual food in the drain and drain hoses, you can set a funnel in that back drain, and pour 10% vinegar solution or hydrogen peroxide to eliminate risk of mold.
The owners manuals only say to use an appropriate fluid to flush those pathways regularly, to eliminate the possibility of mould forming from residual Nutrients being deposited in along the line, but it never says without appropriate fluid was.
Harvest Right has outsourced its’ helpline to countries in the third world, And the poor souls who are banning these lines have never opened the door to one of these units, although they “do have the factory training“.
One of them actually recommended using warm water in the lines to prevent mould growth, which is a bit mad because warm, wet places are actually the ideal environment for mold growth.
It took a series of calls to the factory, to find out that these are the appropriate fluids and that they do not recommend that Bleach is used on any part of the machines.
Gotta pre-freeze liquids. We actually like to pre-freeze everything because it will freeze dry faster.
The trick is to freeze your trays first in your freezer. Fill the trays only half way. Once they are frozen, then put it into the freeze dryer. You can also freeze your milk in silicone ice cube trays, only fill each cell half way. Put them in the freezer, once frozen, pop them out and space them on your freeze dryer trays. There should be no problems if you do either of these ways. I learned by trial and error.
Cream has fat. Fat likes to absorb nitrogen. When the vacuum hits, the nitrogen releases from the fat and bubbles all over. It's why overweight divers have a greater chance of getting the bends than skinny divers. Your cream just got a case of the bends!
I pre freeze EVERYTHING. What a hassle to have to clean this up.
Look at Retired at 40 UA-cam channel. He’s been freeze drying for years. I think he’s done milk and other liquids.
I’m sure you’ve learned by now that if you freeze it in the freezer first, it won’t explode on you? Too funny! I’m sure this happens to a lot of people.