@@RogerMellie-yk3gw Well they'll still be allowed to smoke, just not buy cigarettes. If someone wants to buy cigarettes for them then that would be legal.
If it weren't banned then it would be far worse. I am for this ban. I care for all the children. So many will be saved but yes many of the really disobedient will still do it and that's up to them but so many children will find it too much of a hassle or will think wait, why is it banned it must be really bad. I'm glad guns are banned and we are not like America. Eventually fags will be totally fazed out and will be like weed.
You dont have a problem now. But if and I hope you dont, if you ever diagnosed with lung,mouth or throat cancer due to to smoking or heart disease or stroke which smoking can contribute to too, then I'm sure smoking wont be much help for your raised anxiety levels. I have very had anxiety from a traumatic life. But there are other ways to help. Including going for beautiful walks and exercise in general, watch comedy and just laugh when you can, seeing friends, breathing techniques, meditation, doing a relaxing hobby like art, puzzles etc. Get off the fags and get better health. Also get therapy. CBT is helpful and worth doing. Find your trigger for anxiety. Good luck.
All im gonna say is, be prepared for an increase in taxes somewhere. The amount of money the goverment is going to loose overtime will be made up else where.
Smoking costs the NHS billions every year so if people stop smoking yes the government will lose out on tax but they'll save money from all the treatments.
@@davidtiberghien2879 Smokers pay a huge amount through tobacco taxation. They pay billions into the economy. They more than pay their way in society for smoking. If anything, we should ban alcohol. Smokers harm themselves, people who drink harm society. Alcohol affects cime and public disorder, accidents and injuries and has an impact on productivity. I think the cost of taxation on alcohol covers the medical related issues (which are just as bad as smoking). What about the rest of the negatives? Alcohol should be banned before smoking should. It costs society more. This is people who don't do something dictating to others what they should do. Drunks are more annoying than smokers, lets ban drinking first then since we're getting all 1984 over here.
@@davidtiberghien2879 Smokers pay a huge amount through tobacco taxation. They pay billions into the economy. They more than pay their way in society for smoking. If anything, we should ban alcohol. Smokers harm themselves, people who drink harm society. Alcohol affects cime and public disorder, accidents and injuries and has an impact on productivity. I think the cost of taxation on alcohol covers the medical related issues (which are just as bad as smoking). What about the rest of the negatives? Alcohol should be banned before smoking should. It costs society more. This is people who don't do something dictating to others what they should do. Drunks are more annoying than smokers, lets ban drinking first then since we're getting all 1984 over here. (youtube keeps deleting this so I'll just keep posting it)
@@notmyrealhandle You hope they don't, you parent them with that in mind, but at one point you have to let them go and make their own choices over their body, and so does the government.
And next will be a rule that states you can only have 3 pints in the pub. You can only go out twice a month. You are allowed one pair of shoes per year. Keep your hair short blah blah blah It’s getting like North Korea. If people want to smoke, they will, and no government should have the powers to stop you. People will just sit back and accept it.
People should have the right to smoke weed if they want. Weed makes you think, while alcohol makes you stop thinking. Here's a question, would you rather walk past a bunch of guys who are really drunk or really stoned? There is a reason why nearly all police officers don't have a problem with weed, especially when you compare it to the likes of alcohol and cocaine. The biggest thing of all, weed can't kill you and can't cause any serious physical damage. While again alcohol destroys your body.
@Emtrax. Clearly you take weed because it makes you paranoid and makes you believe it makes your far more intelligent when really it makes you write dumb arse comments like your own.
@@Emtrax. The problem with this argument, is that 99% of drinkers dont drink to get drunk, but practically all smokers want to get high as a kite. And weed does damage, ive seen it
@@tabularasa7775 And don't forget the saving DWP makes from smokers dying early, after those people pay that N.I. their whole lives for a pension they never get to claim.
@@DystopianUtopia True . Hence why i don't pay one . I won't/ don't want to live to 70 and there probably won't be a state pension even if I reach 70 .
Under no circumstances would it be legal nor democratic to have, one day, a 30-years-old British citizen or a UK resident able to buy a product and at the very same time a 29-years-old citizen unable legally to buy tobacco. It's an absolute madness!
You would have to police this properly. Otherwise I feel like this would open up a black market, where kids will find ways to obtain it when it's not regulated, and end up with laced items with who knows what. You know what would actually end this? Raise prices. Make it hard to pay for. And run ads where you compare the prices/money wasted VS what they could be using that money for instead. And if that doesn't work, give incentives for not smoking. Give tax incentives for youth who proclaim they don't smoke and run programs for youth/festivals where the common theme is no smoking, and use the money you're bound to save on a decrease in hospital visits to pay for it.
You can't police it. Has any country in history managed to police drugs or if existence? Was temperance successful in the US? Did it fail so miserably that they just had to start a worldwide war on drugs that has only served to make criminals wealthy? Did we think it was such a good way to waste money that we just had to trump them by banning tobacco?
@@anacc3257 People should be able to do whatever they want with their body, if you want to restrict people's choices the government should hold themselves liable if someone commits a crime. Because when the government restricts your right to do whatever you want to your body, they basically tell you; you're too stupid to make choices for youself. Which is hypocritical since they then hold you liable for things, when the government already has deemed you too stupid to make choices for yourself.
@CarlyHawthorne-lp2wl Good point! I used "their body" though. But I agree that if a reasonable amount of smoke gets into another persons lungs the punishment should be a big fine or even jail time if the person in question is a repeat offender.
I wonder what holds more value & would give more pleasure to the user when & if tobacco is eventually banned? A twenty bag of skunk OR a twenty bag of tabacco? I reckon it's going to be a tough old choice.....
I think the best way to ban smoking is by making it uncool, just like smoking became "cool" because cool movie characters did it, we should try to promote the uncoolness of smoking in the same way.
instead of teaching elementary school kids about questioning wheither they are a boy or a girl, the should be teaching and showing them videos of the effects of smoking and taking drugs!!
Okay. If it's movie set in the 70s or previously though... what are they supposed to do. Not show it....Almost everyone smoked back then. To be fair it was seeing my friends smoke that I started. Then gave up at 17 in the 80s.
If all smokers give up the right to receive treatments for lung illnesses funded by the NHS, then it'd be the smokers' own business. Otherwise, think again mate.
@@passerby4507 The majority of NHS resources go towards alcohol/junk food consumers. 60% of A&E is alcohol-related. Smoking is 12% of population in UK.
Well smokers are my business every time they stand next to me while I just want to catch some fresh air. And yes passive smoking is a serious health risk.
THESE GRIFTERS DON'T GIVE A FIG ABOUT OUR KIDS, HAS ANYONE NOTICED THE WARS ALL OVER, CIGARETTE'S ARE NOT GOOD, BUT CONSCRIPTION WILL KILL OUR KIDS QUICKER.😢😢😢
In the USA, the modern generation of young men have become so traumatized from woke "diversity, equality and inclusion" ideology, that only 9 percent of men surveyed said they would defend their country if there was an invasion by a foreign power!!
A ridiculous idea and won't work. That's why it's never been implemented before worldwide! Can you imagine shopkeepers asking 20-30-40 something adults for their IDs?! 🤦
@@autoimmunitycurse Texas seem too extreme but a very similar issue affected me just last month for buying a harmless super glue, despite being closer to 40 than 18! In general the maximum age to challenge ppl in the UK is 25! 🙄
@@lukemorgan6166 you seem to have forgotten that there's something called second hand smoke that the rest of us are stuck inhaling thanks to other people's stupid decisions
@@Yamato-xc1zzunhealthy fast food causes heart issues that kills way more people to die. Just like foods high in fats or salt or sugar shouldn’t be banned, neither should smoking.
Let me guess: It made smoking a lot more popular for the group that didn’t have access. Something being forbidden makes it more attractive for teenagers
@@lukemorgan6166 Why do children need to be able to buy tobacco? Children get stuff like allowence and what not which is meant for other stuff but could secretly fund the tobacco i dont know. Older children should be allowed to have some money but buying tobacco should be banned according to most sane people...
So banning something like alcohol of which is easily controlled. And small dosez doesn't give you any health issues. Let's ban that shall we? So you're saying smoking is just as bad as alcohol? Haha wow. Shall we just live in your world mate where EVERYONE YOU CAN ALL DO DRUGS, PROSITUTION IS LEGAL, MURDER IS LEGAL. would you happily have that freedom?
@@DougMelvin-of9hx yes because the collective health of those with weak immune system matters more than a personal choice that wouldn't affect me. Look around you almost 80% of the world population received a COVID vaccine yet nobody has died or experienced any side effects of which there are none if you understand how they work.
Smoking costs the NHS billions every year so if people stop smoking yes the government will lose out on tax but they'll save money from all the treatments.
This is truly absolutely spectacular news. I’m so relieved this is actually going forward. This is a landmark move not just for the UK, but for smoking laws around the world as a whole as a benchmark. I can’t wait to see how this goes going forward.
No smoking definitely does more harm to health. Most people drink, only a small fraction smoking these days, but smoking still causes way more health problems in total. Of course yes alcohol is more of a social/societal problem.
Guess it's because I've seen how alcohol destroy families and friendships, ruins physical and mental health etc. Something I see happening in my own family too. Its ripping the family apart and the two alcoholics in the family are struggling with mental issues now and losing their empathy towards others, aggressive and not to mention is killing them. What makes this harder is the fact that they are good people and alcohol has changed them. More people hooked on this poison that not only negatively impacts the drinker but all of those around them too. My brother has lost his job and sinking fast. My mum is now getting liver issues.
hence banning them from being able to smoke as they cant buy them. whilst yes if they are found with them they wont be charged necessarily as its illegal to have been sold it to them not have them. but still it greater limits the plasces of obtaining them then older counterparts if you're in a certain age group.
Which is fine for the next three years, but after that you'll effectively be creating a set of adults with less rights than other adults. See the problem there?
Would you rather crack cocaine and fentanyl be legally purchasable? If not, what's wrong with banning cigarettes other than the fact that you're not used to it?
@passerby4507 All drugs should be decriminalised since criminalising their use leads people chasing legal highs, which are way more harmful. Education on safe usage and harmful effects should be prioritised over making it taboo. Making it taboo equals making it underground cool, therefore giving more leverage to peer pressure
@@johnwright7916 That is a nonsensical argument. Is the main concern for fentanyl "underground cool"? Hint: it's not. And if you think legal substances are worse than fentanyl, you need to watch some news on fentanyl. The reason addictive substances should be banned is because you can't control yourself after you're addicted, and having easy access to cigarettes only creates more addicts.
@@passerby4507 Yes, I'm not fond of the fact that criminal organisations and mafias are funded that way and that people die mostly from badly cut shit they didn't want to put in their body in the first place.
Yes its also an expensive habit in this country and has been for a while, I gave it up in the early part of this century, so instead of an ashtray full of dogends I have actual stuff to show for my hard earned pennies. If I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have started either.
@@user-hl7nt1og7k times have changed. In the past it's been noted that young people will naturally have foolishness and make mistakes hence we need guidance. Now everyone is just free to do as they please
I quit smoking for 6 years now, after 25 year terrible habit. I did it using a vape. Nothing, I mean nothing else I tried before worked to get me to quit. I haven't touched nor want to touch a cigarette again. Please don't equate the two. Flavored vapes help smokers to quit cigarettes. We don't want to only choose tabacco or menthol or mint. Its too close of an association with the taste of a cigarette
They want to ban smoking but everyone seems to smoke weed. Which is also a criminal offence. This legislation reminds me of the ban on smoking in cars with kids in it. Totally unenforceable. Oh and not forgetting some of that generation banned from smoking already smoke.
Smoking is horrendous but humans have used tobacco since the 1st century BC. Some people will always smoke and the next generation will just be buying adulterated black market tobacco full of god knows what, rather than relatively clean baccy from a licensed shop. Why not ban gambling advertisements and further regulate the gambling industry? I think this poses more social harm but maybe it is more profitable
If your going to enforce it then make it illegal for anyone to buy tobacco born from 2020 to protect the next generation, From what i understand its from 2009 meaning for example a 30 year old can buy tobacco but a 29 year old cannot. That's just stupid ?
But it also costs the NHS and taxpayer a huge amount of money to care for people with health issues caused by smoking. If you should have the freedom to choose to smoke and damage your health, the taxpayer shouldn’t have to pick up the bill for the consequences.
I smoked for 38 years. I quit in 2019 & took up vaping + smoke weed. My lungs actually feel better vaping & smoking weed than they did when I was only smoking tabaco! Wanna stop vaping but still want young peeps to purchase booze when they're legal age & Alcohol is just as harmful + makes people fat!!🤷♂
Should have outlawed all forms of smoking, while leaving chewing tobacco freely available instead. Chewing tobacco is smokeless and produces zero secondhand smoke against others, chew at your own risks.
As a smoker, i fully support the ban. We already have safer alternatives such as nicotine pouches and patches. Nicotine by itself is non-carcinogenic and can be useful in keeping you focused through the day. In the past, smoking tobacco was the only way to ingest nicotine but that is no longer the case. Smoking is stupid and harmful.
I've been vaping for 20 years.im 50 .is vaping better am I well because I stopped smoking. Have I got cancer but don't know it yet?I would make a good lab rat to see if smoking damage gets reversed and if vaping can help and if vaping can carry on the damage done by smoking.
vapeing has been known to cause pnuomonia because of all that damp steam you'r breathing into you'r lungs. i even heard of a young girl vaper who's lungs actualy rotted with all that dampness & were found to be full of mould!!!!!
It's an odd approach to banning smoking. But the argument that centre around personal freedoms are deeply flawed. We're not free to do tons of things: attack people, steal their stuff, etc. I don't see why it's such a difficult concept for some to accept that maybe people shouldn't be free to profit from a highly addictive product that has been proven beyond all doubt to do so much harm to people's health. The difference between the health of my mum and my aunt who are sisters two years apart is crazy. My aunt is the older, and she is so fit and active still, yet my mum can barely walk any distance, and it's all because her lungs are so damaged from 50 years of smoking. And even though she's managed to quit, she'll never recover. It was a decision she made when she was still a child, and probably her biggest regret. It was her own choice, but I personally think it should never have been one that was made so easy to take.
Cheers for sharing that though! Still people are already aware of certain smoking dangers and shouldn't have to be patronised not to smoke by these bloody Tories! They should be free to choose for themselves as with drinking/gambling/viewing contents, industrial products etc. (I'm not even a smoker myself).
Awww boo hoo Just don't smoke There, problem sorted People are fully aware of the dangers. We don't need a nanny state stealing your rights because you refuse to take accountability
INDEED Me, I was a Professional Smoker since my Young Days at School I would go as far as saying Smoking was my Best Friend. But I did get beyond it after a Long Struggle, & now I can't even Imagine Smoking again its not Easy to give up the Addiction but Believe Me you Can. As for Sunak's Idea Admirable but won't Work, could even make it Worst as the Youth will be seeing Adults all around them SMOKING. The Way in my Opinion is relate it to Better Health by staying away from Smoking also away from VAPE. So their you are from a one time Addict. Invoice Will follow.
To be fair age discrimination occurs from various products. I was challenged for a bloody ID just for purchasing a super glue from B&Q despite being closer to 40!
@@jetster785 selling product to all people over specific age is different than applying ban for the ones born after specific year. You can wait until you reach age but you cannot choose when you’ll be born. The same way like you cannot choose your skin colour
Well done Tories! Finally our politicians do something right! Bravo! This will save the NHS a fortune in the long run too 👏👏👏👏🇬🇧 Britain leading the way! Proud to be British!
@@jordoncampbell5118 how, every person ought to have the liberty to chose how they enjoy their lives if that includes smoking, that is their wish. The government should not have the authority stop people from smoking if they choose
There is no possible way they can ban flavours unless they plan to ban a lot of other items unrelated to vaping. Firstly, you can mix your own flavours and there a multiple websites showing recipes. All you need to do is buy a few litres of VG or PG liquid (or preferably both or premixed). This is unflavoured E-Liquid that contains no nicotine (so cannot possibly be banned under this new legislation). Then either buy some concentrate (do that now to save hassle if they start waving around a ban hammer) or mix yourself flavours from many online recipe groups. Simply then add nicotine shots to bring the hit you desire and boom... Government fails again to ban something which can be made at home... they are useless!
So next is alcohol yeah as it’s worse than smoking? Never have I known someone smoke and then dangerously drive a car or start a random fight with someone on the street. I’ve seen this hundreds of times with people who drink alcohol. Pathetic decision again government 👏🏻👏🏻
There’s a sweet shop in Hertfordshire that openly sells vapes. The vapes and sweets come in the same flavours. Can we sort that shit out first before we ban smoking for everyone? Also where is that missing tax money gonna come from? 👀
Should work well just like the ban on knives,guns and drugs etc
Lol. True. Totally unenforceable
@@RogerMellie-yk3gw Well they'll still be allowed to smoke, just not buy cigarettes. If someone wants to buy cigarettes for them then that would be legal.
@@Yimello I doubt that would be legal. They'd clearly mske that illegal too
If it weren't banned then it would be far worse.
I am for this ban. I care for all the children. So many will be saved but yes many of the really disobedient will still do it and that's up to them but so many children will find it too much of a hassle or will think wait, why is it banned it must be really bad.
I'm glad guns are banned and we are not like America.
Eventually fags will be totally fazed out and will be like weed.
You dont have a problem now. But if and I hope you dont, if you ever diagnosed with lung,mouth or throat cancer due to to smoking or heart disease or stroke which smoking can contribute to too, then I'm sure smoking wont be much help for your raised anxiety levels.
I have very had anxiety from a traumatic life. But there are other ways to help. Including going for beautiful walks and exercise in general, watch comedy and just laugh when you can, seeing friends, breathing techniques, meditation, doing a relaxing hobby like art, puzzles etc.
Get off the fags and get better health. Also get therapy. CBT is helpful and worth doing. Find your trigger for anxiety.
Good luck.
Id like to know what this gov has been smoking the last 14 years
plastic probably
Wokeium - very dangerous and highly addictive.
Child's blood
Billionnaire Man-meat.
Mainly crack. And some of king Charles' pubes.
All im gonna say is, be prepared for an increase in taxes somewhere.
The amount of money the goverment is going to loose overtime will be made up else where.
Smoking costs the NHS billions every year so if people stop smoking yes the government will lose out on tax but they'll save money from all the treatments.
You will save money on healthcare
@@davidtiberghien2879 Smokers pay a huge amount through tobacco taxation. They pay billions into the economy. They more than pay their way in society for smoking. If anything, we should ban alcohol. Smokers harm themselves, people who drink harm society. Alcohol affects cime and public disorder, accidents and injuries and has an impact on productivity. I think the cost of taxation on alcohol covers the medical related issues (which are just as bad as smoking). What about the rest of the negatives? Alcohol should be banned before smoking should. It costs society more. This is people who don't do something dictating to others what they should do. Drunks are more annoying than smokers, lets ban drinking first then since we're getting all 1984 over here.
@@davidtiberghien2879 Smokers pay a huge amount through tobacco taxation. They pay billions into the economy. They more than pay their way in society for smoking. If anything, we should ban alcohol. Smokers harm themselves, people who drink harm society. Alcohol affects cime and public disorder, accidents and injuries and has an impact on productivity. I think the cost of taxation on alcohol covers the medical related issues (which are just as bad as smoking). What about the rest of the negatives? Alcohol should be banned before smoking should. It costs society more. This is people who don't do something dictating to others what they should do. Drunks are more annoying than smokers, lets ban drinking first then since we're getting all 1984 over here.
(youtube keeps deleting this so I'll just keep posting it)
@@readisgooddewaterkant7890 the amount of money earn on tax, well exceeds the amount given to the nhs each year
Imagine in the future as a 40 year old being told you're not old enough to buy cigarettes!
The 40yo will just have to wait outside the shop untill a 41yo comes along to buy them for him lol
@@notmyrealhandle You hope they don't, you parent them with that in mind, but at one point you have to let them go and make their own choices over their body, and so does the government.
They'll buy them on the black market like everything else that's banned that people still want.
shameful for this country becoming slavery prisons awful and awful country and dangerous for freedom of Europe
Some birds says me,black market would flourished if they do that.
Prohibition learns
They'll get it from somewhere
Just like illegal drugs
Exactly
Some gangs are going to make a fortune.
Why not ban 'unhealthy' food? Heart disease and obesity kills more people than smoking.
And next will be a rule that states you can only have 3 pints in the pub. You can only go out twice a month. You are allowed one pair of shoes per year. Keep your hair short blah blah blah
It’s getting like North Korea. If people want to smoke, they will, and no government should have the powers to stop you. People will just sit back and accept it.
If they ban cigarettes then they need to ban unhealthy food since cardiac diseases are the no.1 killer in the UK
You are right, many things are bad for us, it just boils down to lifestyle choices. But the grim reaper gets to us all one way or another in the end.
@@Shaun137That's why personal choices shouldn't be prohibited
1950s - tobacco smoking good; marijuana smoking bad.
Today - tobacco smoking bad; marijuana smoking good.
Common sense - ANY kind of smoking = bad.
Nope marijuna bad in UK. And rightly so. Theyre both bad
People should have the right to smoke weed if they want.
Weed makes you think, while alcohol makes you stop thinking. Here's a question, would you rather walk past a bunch of guys who are really drunk or really stoned?
There is a reason why nearly all police officers don't have a problem with weed, especially when you compare it to the likes of alcohol and cocaine.
The biggest thing of all, weed can't kill you and can't cause any serious physical damage. While again alcohol destroys your body.
Shhhhhh
@Emtrax. Clearly you take weed because it makes you paranoid and makes you believe it makes your far more intelligent when really it makes you write dumb arse comments like your own.
@@Emtrax. The problem with this argument, is that 99% of drinkers dont drink to get drunk, but practically all smokers want to get high as a kite. And weed does damage, ive seen it
That's ageism. They still want to profit from excise taxes instead of banning smokes outright.
Now UK desperately needs a ban on littering, with real enforcement!
My self personally have and never will smoke. But it is up to the people who either want to smoke or not. Not the nanny state.
Don't let the government fool you that they care about anyone's health .. alcohol kills far more through abuse , drink driving etc etc ......
No it doesn't
Government is the biggest “killer” on the planet, yet we haven’t banned it yet….curious….I guess it’s an addiction we simply can’t quit!!
Not even close lmao.
One google search suggests otherwise. My god people are getting more dumb
Wtf r u talking about ? Alcohol is a hugely problematic drug but smoking kills way more. 80,000 Vs 10,000.
The main reason for banning smoking is the cost to the NHS. Best option would be to make people pay for treatment for smoking related health issues.😊
I imagine the issue there would be proving ur issue was smoke related. Some people never smoke a cigarette in their life and yet develop lung cancer
They do in the astronomical taxes on tobacco and their N.I , end of subject .
@@Nightwing-bh2tnand 75% of throat cancer has nothing to do with smoking and is actually caused by the H.P virus
@@tabularasa7775 And don't forget the saving DWP makes from smokers dying early, after those people pay that N.I. their whole lives for a pension they never get to claim.
@@DystopianUtopia True . Hence why i don't pay one . I won't/ don't want to live to 70 and there probably won't be a state pension even if I reach 70 .
Who was smoking when they watched this
Let people do what they want don't tell people they can't smoke if someone wants to smoke let them smoke
Same argument could be said about suicide
Under no circumstances would it be legal nor democratic to have, one day, a 30-years-old British citizen or a UK resident able to buy a product and at the very same time a 29-years-old citizen unable legally to buy tobacco. It's an absolute madness!
You would have to police this properly. Otherwise I feel like this would open up a black market, where kids will find ways to obtain it when it's not regulated, and end up with laced items with who knows what. You know what would actually end this? Raise prices. Make it hard to pay for. And run ads where you compare the prices/money wasted VS what they could be using that money for instead. And if that doesn't work, give incentives for not smoking. Give tax incentives for youth who proclaim they don't smoke and run programs for youth/festivals where the common theme is no smoking, and use the money you're bound to save on a decrease in hospital visits to pay for it.
It's already begun. People are stocking up, getting clients ready and setting prices as we speak
You can't police it. Has any country in history managed to police drugs or if existence? Was temperance successful in the US? Did it fail so miserably that they just had to start a worldwide war on drugs that has only served to make criminals wealthy? Did we think it was such a good way to waste money that we just had to trump them by banning tobacco?
They already tax cigarettes by crazy margins, you didn't know almost all of the price is tax?
People will get it from somewhere else instead. Just a very similar scenario like weed.
Less people will start smoking and everyone's better off
True, but at least it will reduce the number of people smoking on the streets
@@anacc3257 People should be able to do whatever they want with their body, if you want to restrict people's choices the government should hold themselves liable if someone commits a crime. Because when the government restricts your right to do whatever you want to your body, they basically tell you; you're too stupid to make choices for youself. Which is hypocritical since they then hold you liable for things, when the government already has deemed you too stupid to make choices for yourself.
@CarlyHawthorne-lp2wl Good point! I used "their body" though. But I agree that if a reasonable amount of smoke gets into another persons lungs the punishment should be a big fine or even jail time if the person in question is a repeat offender.
I wonder what holds more value & would give more pleasure to the user when & if tobacco is eventually banned? A twenty bag of skunk OR a twenty bag of tabacco?
I reckon it's going to be a tough old choice.....
I think the best way to ban smoking is by making it uncool, just like smoking became "cool" because cool movie characters did it, we should try to promote the uncoolness of smoking in the same way.
instead of teaching elementary school kids about questioning wheither they are a boy or a girl, the should be teaching and showing them videos of the effects of smoking and taking drugs!!
Okay. If it's movie set in the 70s or previously though... what are they supposed to do. Not show it....Almost everyone smoked back then. To be fair it was seeing my friends smoke that I started. Then gave up at 17 in the 80s.
We live in 2024 not 1950s marty mcfly
It won't happen. Smoking got cool with the huge sums of money tobacco companies dumped into ads. No one is funding the uncool campaign.
That won't work. Authority figures telling kids that something is uncool just makes it that much cooler in their eyes.
I gave up my 10 year long smoking habit during Covid pandemic!
👏!
Congrats
Congratulations 🎉🎈
@@user-vx5rz2bp4fput back on the tin foil hat
You didn't fart at work, so at least you never suffered public embarrassment.
Bloody laws. Mind your own friggin business, for Christ sake.
Taxes pay for healthcare for smokers.
If all smokers give up the right to receive treatments for lung illnesses funded by the NHS, then it'd be the smokers' own business. Otherwise, think again mate.
@@passerby4507 The majority of NHS resources go towards alcohol/junk food consumers. 60% of A&E is alcohol-related. Smoking is 12% of population in UK.
Well smokers are my business every time they stand next to me while I just want to catch some fresh air.
And yes passive smoking is a serious health risk.
@@BrownDaddy007 The population prevalence doesn't matter for the argument, smokers will eventually use a disproportionate amount of medical resource.
THESE GRIFTERS DON'T GIVE A FIG ABOUT OUR KIDS, HAS ANYONE NOTICED THE WARS ALL OVER, CIGARETTE'S ARE NOT GOOD, BUT CONSCRIPTION WILL KILL OUR KIDS QUICKER.😢😢😢
this comment should be top of the pile
In the USA, the modern generation of young men have become so traumatized from woke "diversity, equality and inclusion" ideology, that only 9 percent of men surveyed said they would defend their country if there was an invasion by a foreign power!!
Let people do what they want when they are old enough it's a free country
America took that approach and deal with school shootings every other day
Is it though? Vast majority of Brits simply do not care about abstract ideals like 'freedom' or 'liberty' in these tough times.
A ridiculous idea and won't work. That's why it's never been implemented before worldwide! Can you imagine shopkeepers asking 20-30-40 something adults for their IDs?! 🤦
It's law in Texas to ask for ID if customer looks younger than 40. Signs in every place that sells tobacco alcohol tapes etc.
@@autoimmunitycurse Texas seem too extreme but a very similar issue affected me just last month for buying a harmless super glue, despite being closer to 40 than 18! In general the maximum age to challenge ppl in the UK is 25! 🙄
They card here for booze, weed and cigs if you look underage.
Our body, our choice. You shouldn't control every aspect of a person's personal life.
@@Yamato-xc1zzand?
It's no secret and if people want to do that, let them
@@lukemorgan6166 you seem to have forgotten that there's something called second hand smoke that the rest of us are stuck inhaling thanks to other people's stupid decisions
@@Yamato-xc1zzunhealthy fast food causes heart issues that kills way more people to die. Just like foods high in fats or salt or sugar shouldn’t be banned, neither should smoking.
New Zealand tried this and ended up repealing the ban within a year. Don’t make the same mistake.
Let me guess: It made smoking a lot more popular for the group that didn’t have access. Something being forbidden makes it more attractive for teenagers
@@janekmundt579 the ban never took effect
I watch my mother go through mouth cancer treatments 😢
How about just making quitting easier with proper gov support.
Ban alcohol as well
Wow bunch of commi’s
clearly you are Stupid and don't understand other types of political systems.
Or people who don't want children to ruin their lungs? Did you even watch the video? Tobacco for children is banned in most of europe....
@@halla359don't buy tobacco for your children then lol 😂
Getting their money from somewhere
@@lukemorgan6166 Why do children need to be able to buy tobacco? Children get stuff like allowence and what not which is meant for other stuff but could secretly fund the tobacco i dont know. Older children should be allowed to have some money but buying tobacco should be banned according to most sane people...
Remember to ban gambling and alcohol as well.
Who dies from gambling?
@@leon327 gambling is wrong.
@CarlyHawthorne-lp2wl Not really. If somebody is smoking too close to me, then I can breathe their smoke. Theres no such thing as passive drinking.
Why? Because you refuse to accept accountability for your own actions
So banning something like alcohol of which is easily controlled. And small dosez doesn't give you any health issues. Let's ban that shall we? So you're saying smoking is just as bad as alcohol? Haha wow.
Shall we just live in your world mate where EVERYONE YOU CAN ALL DO DRUGS, PROSITUTION IS LEGAL, MURDER IS LEGAL. would you happily have that freedom?
Old people can buy them.
Germany legalizes UK criminalizes😂
Although honestly I agree with this one since it actually kills people.
My body my choice.
Meanwhile me who's turning 20 never did smoking😂
@@Juststayhopeful me neither but I agree that it should be someones personal choice.
Were you also for vaccine mandates too?
@@DougMelvin-of9hx yes because the collective health of those with weak immune system matters more than a personal choice that wouldn't affect me. Look around you almost 80% of the world population received a COVID vaccine yet nobody has died or experienced any side effects of which there are none if you understand how they work.
Smoking costs the NHS billions every year so if people stop smoking yes the government will lose out on tax but they'll save money from all the treatments.
This is truly absolutely spectacular news. I’m so relieved this is actually going forward. This is a landmark move not just for the UK, but for smoking laws around the world as a whole as a benchmark. I can’t wait to see how this goes going forward.
I feel like alcohol does more damage to peoples health, families and friendships.
No smoking definitely does more harm to health. Most people drink, only a small fraction smoking these days, but smoking still causes way more health problems in total. Of course yes alcohol is more of a social/societal problem.
Guess it's because I've seen how alcohol destroy families and friendships, ruins physical and mental health etc. Something I see happening in my own family too. Its ripping the family apart and the two alcoholics in the family are struggling with mental issues now and losing their empathy towards others, aggressive and not to mention is killing them. What makes this harder is the fact that they are good people and alcohol has changed them.
More people hooked on this poison that not only negatively impacts the drinker but all of those around them too. My brother has lost his job and sinking fast. My mum is now getting liver issues.
My body my choice.
i dont want to inhale your shit
my body my choice
Make pipes great again.
タバコの吸いすぎで友人を亡くしました、咳が出だしたらもう手遅れです、癌だと思ったほうが良いですよ。
@@user-xb2zk1nc2i ninjago language u are so wise
most of the kids these days vape or smoke weed. so what affect is this ban going to make ?
Which is far more important than the daily invasion at Dover
Black market will be doing well then!
It's NOT a smoking ban, It's a ban on selling to a certain age group which is an entirely different thing.
Just like the Tiktok ban it's a ban being hidden as something else
hence banning them from being able to smoke as they cant buy them. whilst yes if they are found with them they wont be charged necessarily as its illegal to have been sold it to them not have them. but still it greater limits the plasces of obtaining them then older counterparts if you're in a certain age group.
18 means your a adult in the uk
a very clear say smoking ban stop say rubbish
Which is fine for the next three years, but after that you'll effectively be creating a set of adults with less rights than other adults. See the problem there?
Ban smoking in public.
While there's no denying that it's horrible for you to smoke, I think removing the choice to do so seems a bit far fetched
Would you rather crack cocaine and fentanyl be legally purchasable? If not, what's wrong with banning cigarettes other than the fact that you're not used to it?
@passerby4507 All drugs should be decriminalised since criminalising their use leads people chasing legal highs, which are way more harmful.
Education on safe usage and harmful effects should be prioritised over making it taboo. Making it taboo equals making it underground cool, therefore giving more leverage to peer pressure
@@johnwright7916 That is a nonsensical argument. Is the main concern for fentanyl "underground cool"? Hint: it's not. And if you think legal substances are worse than fentanyl, you need to watch some news on fentanyl.
The reason addictive substances should be banned is because you can't control yourself after you're addicted, and having easy access to cigarettes only creates more addicts.
@@passerby4507 Yes, I'm not fond of the fact that criminal organisations and mafias are funded that way and that people die mostly from badly cut shit they didn't want to put in their body in the first place.
To be honest it’s a good thing, I started smoking at 16 thinking it was cool at lunch in school, now 27 and it’s one of my biggest regrets
Yes its also an expensive habit in this country and has been for a while, I gave it up in the early part of this century, so instead of an ashtray full of dogends I have actual stuff to show for my hard earned pennies. If I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have started either.
And what will they tax instead
It's up to people what they do with their own bodies not you
as a result people like you are manufactured....
Do you think everyone should be able to buy ecstasy, heroin, and cocaine in corner shops?
I guess that's true - we can't legislate against stupidity. "I demand the right to self harm, and the right to free help and treatment when I do"
It's not that simple. Smoking is invasive to others around them, unlike gambling, drinking, drugs, eating..
@@WintersWarso is walking around a busy city with lots of traffic and pollution but they are not going to ban cars are they
I will start smoking if they say say I cant!
What about banning knives or guns
How does saving lives infringe on freedom
It removes personal choice. Maybe stop treating smokers instead?
Of course it attacks people's freedom. Savings someone's life without their asking is taking away their freedom to choose.
@@user-hl7nt1og7k times have changed. In the past it's been noted that young people will naturally have foolishness and make mistakes hence we need guidance. Now everyone is just free to do as they please
and so alcohol is never the story... UK suffers from alcoholism more than cigs... if you stop alcohol .. cigs is less appealing..
and then claim the sharia laws
They will focus on alcohol legislation soon trust me! Both smoking and alcohol are carcinogenic anyways
@@learningvideosbynikhil8308 Unfortunately lots of things are in this modern age.
so they'll have to ask their brother? All right....
Young ppl just got a new way to rebel!
I quit smoking for 6 years now, after 25 year terrible habit. I did it using a vape. Nothing, I mean nothing else I tried before worked to get me to quit. I haven't touched nor want to touch a cigarette again. Please don't equate the two. Flavored vapes help smokers to quit cigarettes. We don't want to only choose tabacco or menthol or mint. Its too close of an association with the taste of a cigarette
How about MPs and PMs not taking kick backs and good paying jobs when leaving office. Profiting from not serving the people.
All treatments for smoking related problems should be removed from NHS. Self inflicted.
BAN THIS BAN THAT BAN THE BOATS.
I understand smoking is bad for you, but smoking is a choice & out of all the years why tf 2009? Couldn’t they just pick a reasonable year like 2010?
They want to ban smoking but everyone seems to smoke weed. Which is also a criminal offence. This legislation reminds me of the ban on smoking in cars with kids in it. Totally unenforceable. Oh and not forgetting some of that generation banned from smoking already smoke.
Leave these people alone
Smoking is horrendous but humans have used tobacco since the 1st century BC. Some people will always smoke and the next generation will just be buying adulterated black market tobacco full of god knows what, rather than relatively clean baccy from a licensed shop. Why not ban gambling advertisements and further regulate the gambling industry? I think this poses more social harm but maybe it is more profitable
It’s gonna turn out like how cannabis is in the black market. Better to decriminalise these things whilst making them less appealing at the same time.
A terrible assault on personal liberty - people should be allowed to make bad decisions for themselves!
Uhmmm... we did this in the U.S. years ago.
Anything to avoid debating the clot-shot.
Get over it, covid is done.
What do vaccines have to do with this smoking ban?
Controlling people now before they’re born.. control control control never ends well
YOU CANT TAKE OUR FREEWILL AWAY. .
If your going to enforce it then make it illegal for anyone to buy tobacco born from 2020 to protect the next generation, From what i understand its from 2009 meaning for example a 30 year old can buy tobacco but a 29 year old cannot. That's just stupid ?
This is outrageous!!
Note: 23rd April 2024; Tobacco is still being sold from sweet shops in the UK and openly sold in front of children.
Wow it's taken them this long to get on top of this ?????
But it also costs the NHS and taxpayer a huge amount of money to care for people with health issues caused by smoking.
If you should have the freedom to choose to smoke and damage your health, the taxpayer shouldn’t have to pick up the bill for the consequences.
Ban the use of mineral nitrates in agriculture.
I smoked for 38 years. I quit in 2019 & took up vaping + smoke weed. My lungs actually feel better vaping & smoking weed than they did when I was only smoking tabaco! Wanna stop vaping but still want young peeps to purchase booze when they're legal age & Alcohol is just as harmful + makes people fat!!🤷♂
It’s a deadly, stinking, ugly and expensive addiction.
So is atleast twenty other addictions.
@@Unknown24466There's alot of fatties out here.
@support_people_not_evilIt's a good thing what the government is doing but how will they enforce it, without infringing on people's human rights.
Chasing money to hand back to your government?...I agree.
It's big and clever and makes you look cool!
You could get just as many horror stories from callers about Alcohol......
But hey, everyone does that, right? 🙄
Should have outlawed all forms of smoking, while leaving chewing tobacco freely available instead. Chewing tobacco is smokeless and produces zero secondhand smoke against others, chew at your own risks.
Air pollution is worse than the bit of secondhand smoke you get when outside.
The UK is sadly become a place where human rights takes a back seat
awful country I hate this country all my heart and I leaving this year
As long as the government gets the high tax from Tobacco companies they will not ban the sales of cigarettes.
I'm turning 20 this year never did smoke nor drank
I totally support the bill
I don't feel it goes far enough
Why not ban import of tobacco
As a smoker, i fully support the ban. We already have safer alternatives such as nicotine pouches and patches. Nicotine by itself is non-carcinogenic and can be useful in keeping you focused through the day. In the past, smoking tobacco was the only way to ingest nicotine but that is no longer the case. Smoking is stupid and harmful.
But that doesn't mean the government should take away personal choices!
I've been vaping for 20 years.im 50 .is vaping better am I well because I stopped smoking. Have I got cancer but don't know it yet?I would make a good lab rat to see if smoking damage gets reversed and if vaping can help and if vaping can carry on the damage done by smoking.
vapeing has been known to cause pnuomonia because of all that damp steam you'r breathing into you'r lungs. i even heard of a young girl vaper who's lungs actualy rotted with all that dampness & were found to be full of mould!!!!!
It's an odd approach to banning smoking. But the argument that centre around personal freedoms are deeply flawed. We're not free to do tons of things: attack people, steal their stuff, etc. I don't see why it's such a difficult concept for some to accept that maybe people shouldn't be free to profit from a highly addictive product that has been proven beyond all doubt to do so much harm to people's health. The difference between the health of my mum and my aunt who are sisters two years apart is crazy. My aunt is the older, and she is so fit and active still, yet my mum can barely walk any distance, and it's all because her lungs are so damaged from 50 years of smoking. And even though she's managed to quit, she'll never recover. It was a decision she made when she was still a child, and probably her biggest regret. It was her own choice, but I personally think it should never have been one that was made so easy to take.
Cheers for sharing that though! Still people are already aware of certain smoking dangers and shouldn't have to be patronised not to smoke by these bloody Tories! They should be free to choose for themselves as with drinking/gambling/viewing contents, industrial products etc. (I'm not even a smoker myself).
Awww boo hoo
Just don't smoke
There, problem sorted
People are fully aware of the dangers. We don't need a nanny state stealing your rights because you refuse to take accountability
@@user-vx5rz2bp4fyeah, we need the government to tell us absolutely everything to do
I'll forget to wipe if the government didn't tell me too
Using their arguments, alcohol should be banned, too.
@@simonsimon325that may be the case but people could also say ur argument leads towards banning alcohol
INDEED
Me, I was a Professional Smoker since my Young Days at School I would go as far as saying Smoking was my Best Friend.
But I did get beyond it after a Long Struggle, & now I can't even Imagine Smoking again its not Easy to give up the Addiction but Believe Me you Can.
As for Sunak's Idea Admirable but won't Work, could even make it Worst as the Youth will be seeing Adults all around them SMOKING.
The Way in my Opinion is relate it to Better Health by staying away from Smoking also away from VAPE.
So their you are from a one time Addict.
Invoice Will follow.
Age discrimination to protect the tobacco companies 😅
To be fair age discrimination occurs from various products. I was challenged for a bloody ID just for purchasing a super glue from B&Q despite being closer to 40!
@@jetster785 selling product to all people over specific age is different than applying ban for the ones born after specific year. You can wait until you reach age but you cannot choose when you’ll be born. The same way like you cannot choose your skin colour
There have to be stronger punishment for those smokers who smoke in the same room with no smokers. Stop choking other people with smoke !!!
It's your choice whether you want to enter a location where smoking is or do you need to be told?
Many public places indoors throughout the UK already ban smoking so the issue is pretty much non existent!
@@drd6416 We all know who are the ones who need to be told...
You can't smoke in public places, you don't want to visit a smoker's flat, don't.
Why don’t they ban alcohol ?
They banned alcohol in the US many years ago(prohibition) organised crime filled the demand also people can make their own.
@@paulworgan6599The same will happen with tobacco
So whats going to replace the tax on tobacco.
Well done Tories! Finally our politicians do something right!
Bravo! This will save the NHS a fortune in the long run too 👏👏👏👏🇬🇧
Britain leading the way! Proud to be British!
An ban on tobacco products would be a better solution. It is concistent with the ban on addictive drugs.
And nobody talking about diabetes- band the chocolate!
My body, My choice
This doesn't effect you.
@@jordoncampbell5118 how, every person ought to have the liberty to chose how they enjoy their lives if that includes smoking, that is their wish. The government should not have the authority stop people from smoking if they choose
@@americaneejit9993 the ban doesn't effect the people who already smoke.
@@jordoncampbell5118 that liberty should not be restricted for the next generation just as it shouldn’t have been restricted for anyone alive today
@@americaneejit9993don't you think it's a good idea if our grandkids never smoked.
This will only cost a other problem it's called obesity
There is no possible way they can ban flavours unless they plan to ban a lot of other items unrelated to vaping. Firstly, you can mix your own flavours and there a multiple websites showing recipes. All you need to do is buy a few litres of VG or PG liquid (or preferably both or premixed). This is unflavoured E-Liquid that contains no nicotine (so cannot possibly be banned under this new legislation). Then either buy some concentrate (do that now to save hassle if they start waving around a ban hammer) or mix yourself flavours from many online recipe groups.
Simply then add nicotine shots to bring the hit you desire and boom... Government fails again to ban something which can be made at home... they are useless!
So much for "Freedom".
What a great way to promote the creation of a black market for cigarettes.
So next is alcohol yeah as it’s worse than smoking? Never have I known someone smoke and then dangerously drive a car or start a random fight with someone on the street. I’ve seen this hundreds of times with people who drink alcohol. Pathetic decision again government 👏🏻👏🏻
There’s a sweet shop in Hertfordshire that openly sells vapes. The vapes and sweets come in the same flavours. Can we sort that shit out first before we ban smoking for everyone?
Also where is that missing tax money gonna come from? 👀
Snitch
@@RS_0747😂
They just announced a massive cut in disability benefits