When you include live events, it makes complete sense that the biggest losers are going to be all of the heels. That makes it extra sad that Gable made the cut.
Gable was still a heel for the first several months of the year, then when he turned he started losing IC title matches to Gunther on house shows. There's also a funny stretch on the recent European tour where Alpha Academy was putting over Vinci & Kaiser despite being the faces.
As dumb as it sounds racking up losses like that on a house show is a good thing. It’s showing the company has faith in Gable to safely work night after night after night.
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40:24 AAA has tournaments named 'Ruleta de la Muerte' (singles) and 'Guerra de Rivalidades' (tag team), which the LOSER advances in the tournament, because the final match of the tournament is a Mask VS. Mask match where the loser has to remove his mask!
This could open all kinds of possibilities. First blood matches where guys immediately race to cut themselves open without ever touching each other. Submission matches where both guys start complaining to the ref as soon as the bell rings that theyre injured and cant go on. Elimination tag matches where one team covers each other trying to get one guy eliminated. Call the PPV "Cowards Castle".
Imagine a singles match that neither man wants to win, so they fight and try to make the opponent cover THEM. So instead of kicking out, it's the person that's covering trying to get off the opponent or touch the rope. It could lead to hilarious situations.
3v3 house show matches of Imperium versus flavor of the month. Gunther probably never gets pinned but because he is on the losing team he still gets the L
That's what I was thinking, I mean, I get that it's less that GUNTHER has lost a lot and more that his crew have lost a lot, but even then, shouldn't only the person taken the pin be the one who's in the tournament?
being on the losing team is still a loss, and that'd also mean we'd have to go through and find every instance of every person who took a pinfall loss for their team which would be way too much of a hassle!
Gunther’s losses have to be live event team matches where Ludwig or Giovanni take the pin cause Gunther literally hasn’t lost on tv in how long and that was DQ with gable months ago and hasn’t been pinned in over a year
This concept is actually kinda unique and a company should do it in real life. Like, they could take the 8 wrestlers with the worst win/loss record and put them in a tournament like this one in which the "winner" gets (kayfabe) fired... it's essentially like a tournament in reverse. Has any promotion done that before?
I don't know if it was about biggest losers, but I believe there's a lucha tournament where you advance by losing and whoever loses in the finals has to unmask.
No, they shouldn't do this. It would be an absolute disaster and logically make zero sense why they would even have a match in the first place, just get DQ'd, count out or better yet both wrestlers in a match get counted out. Then if its FCA or No DQ you have the issue of interference. It would be absurd. The only thing that came close to this was the Feast or Fired bullshit in TNA and that was simply because they really wanted to fire Chavo.
True, especially since Kane won the title after Apathetic Boogeyman dove off the HIAC and was pinned (which also ended The Undertaker’s undefeated streak in the process).
Wanted to mention this somewhere and this seems as good as anywhere. If you do a tag team tournament in 2k23, set the stipulation to random and then select yes to control partners, if the stipulation has tornado tag you will control both wrestlers at the same time.
Who do you think is winning the rumblethon? ( out of the many wrestlers or managers from the past 100 years) ill say the big show surprises everyone and wins the thing
@@ryanchivwara5013 just to different, you’d assume they’ll include a Casino Battle Royal from Fight Forever, so I’ll take a swing and say Brian Cage cause WHOCANSTOPTHE WHOCANSTOPTHE
@@newLEGACYinc That's fair enough, hell, I like the guy and even I'll admit that the WWE booking has done him no favours (that could be said for the whole roster, honestly)
Y’all need to stop bullying Miz lmao he’s put on some absolute bangers in the past. The fatal four way at Extreme rules 2016, Vs Dolph at No Mercy 2016, the triple threat at Wrestlemania 34, Vs Seth at Backlash 2018, and both matches he’s had with Gunther this year are easy moty contenders.
This concept has been done before in GTS Wrestling they actually had a title belt called the Loserweight Championship and the loser was the champion that was done many years ago 😂
Fun stream as always. One thing I'll say about WWE nowadays is that since Triple H took over, this is probably the best WWE has been since probably 2005.
If anyone wants to see the real life equivalent of this tournament, AAA had the Ruleta de la Muerte tournament this year at their Triplemania event, the wrestler who lost the finals had to remove their mask
In all seriousness WWE has had a pretty good year storywise/in-ring wise. Of course you could pick out the same old WWE bullshit (RAW being 3 hours is still one of them) but overall they've had a good year! Its a great time to be a pro wrestling fan, regardless of all the tribalism going around. You can be a fan of multiple companies and can also disagree with certain aspects of multiple companies. Sorry for rambling on, just excited for the future of the business! Also, jesus christ Gunther
Damian Priest and the Miz have faced 4 times total. At the rumble, 20-man battle royal, tag match at WrestleMania, and that absolutely dog shit zombie match at backlash
@newLEGACYinc so because Jawny asked... there was a company that did a Sub Tournament w/n their equivalent of the G-1; Dragon Gate in 2018 had the bottom wrestler in each Block compete to see who was the "lowest rated wrestler in the company" so yeah...
guys um im confused all these guys for the most part had a banger 2023 i mean gunther is the first man since 2007 to end a year an start a new one as IC champ XD
When you include live events, it makes complete sense that the biggest losers are going to be all of the heels. That makes it extra sad that Gable made the cut.
I suppose it makes sense if you consider that Gable probably faced Gunther on house shows when Gunther wasn't tagging with the rest of Imperium.
Gable was still a heel for the first several months of the year, then when he turned he started losing IC title matches to Gunther on house shows. There's also a funny stretch on the recent European tour where Alpha Academy was putting over Vinci & Kaiser despite being the faces.
@@succumbtovioletsImperium would be the faces in Europe
As dumb as it sounds racking up losses like that on a house show is a good thing. It’s showing the company has faith in Gable to safely work night after night after night.
40:24 AAA has tournaments named 'Ruleta de la Muerte' (singles) and 'Guerra de Rivalidades' (tag team), which the LOSER advances in the tournament, because the final match of the tournament is a Mask VS. Mask match where the loser has to remove his mask!
This could open all kinds of possibilities.
First blood matches where guys immediately race to cut themselves open without ever touching each other.
Submission matches where both guys start complaining to the ref as soon as the bell rings that theyre injured and cant go on.
Elimination tag matches where one team covers each other trying to get one guy eliminated.
Call the PPV "Cowards Castle".
Thank you for giving me the pay-per-view name for my channel💀🗿😇
Imagine a singles match that neither man wants to win, so they fight and try to make the opponent cover THEM. So instead of kicking out, it's the person that's covering trying to get off the opponent or touch the rope.
It could lead to hilarious situations.
HOW DOES GUNTHER LOSS 43 TIMES !!?
He had that much of 3 v 3 matches !?
INDEED. Also he has lost by DQ many times
3v3 house show matches of Imperium versus flavor of the month. Gunther probably never gets pinned but because he is on the losing team he still gets the L
Notice how all 3 members of Imperium are included. They lost a lot of house shows.
That's what I was thinking, I mean, I get that it's less that GUNTHER has lost a lot and more that his crew have lost a lot, but even then, shouldn't only the person taken the pin be the one who's in the tournament?
being on the losing team is still a loss, and that'd also mean we'd have to go through and find every instance of every person who took a pinfall loss for their team which would be way too much of a hassle!
If Roman was a 99 in 2K23 due to his God Run, I expect Gunther to at least be in the mid-90s in 2K24.
Dude, at least, he should be 90-92 but anything lower than that is a damn travesty.
@@Kaltagstar96 Nah, they won't do that. He is the longest reigning IC TItle Holder ever. Beating a 35 year record.
Gunther’s losses have to be live event team matches where Ludwig or Giovanni take the pin cause Gunther literally hasn’t lost on tv in how long and that was DQ with gable months ago and hasn’t been pinned in over a year
This concept is actually kinda unique and a company should do it in real life. Like, they could take the 8 wrestlers with the worst win/loss record and put them in a tournament like this one in which the "winner" gets (kayfabe) fired... it's essentially like a tournament in reverse. Has any promotion done that before?
Sounds like something Vince Russo would do.
I don't know if it was about biggest losers, but I believe there's a lucha tournament where you advance by losing and whoever loses in the finals has to unmask.
@@kevintran3285 i was literally thinking that
No, they shouldn't do this. It would be an absolute disaster and logically make zero sense why they would even have a match in the first place, just get DQ'd, count out or better yet both wrestlers in a match get counted out. Then if its FCA or No DQ you have the issue of interference. It would be absurd.
The only thing that came close to this was the Feast or Fired bullshit in TNA and that was simply because they really wanted to fire Chavo.
Could be a good comedy thing maybe if the company has two brands you could kayfabe fire the loser
Winner should have to face Kane for the GLOAT title
I love me some long term booking! Lol😂
True, especially since Kane won the title after Apathetic Boogeyman dove off the HIAC and was pinned (which also ended The Undertaker’s undefeated streak in the process).
Im honestly surprised no company has pushed a reverse tables match where the first person to put themselves through a table wins.
It has undoubtedly happened in Philly
That sounds like a botchamania farm😂😂
Wanted to mention this somewhere and this seems as good as anywhere. If you do a tag team tournament in 2k23, set the stipulation to random and then select yes to control partners, if the stipulation has tornado tag you will control both wrestlers at the same time.
Merry Christmas Big Dawgs. Can't wait for the rumblethon.
Well even in the game Miz and Gunther put on a banger
Match of the tournament easily.
The Miz has been great this year and his matches with Gunther have been bangers
LOL
fr that raw match recently was probably miz best match ever
🤡@@TeamKP1
decent ok matches. especially compared to Gunther's matches with Gable, Bronson Reed and Ciampa, and of course Sheamus and McIntyre
Rumblethon announcement, Biggest Loser Tournament. We are getting spoiled this year!!!!
Who do you think is winning the rumblethon? ( out of the many wrestlers or managers from the past 100 years) ill say the big show surprises everyone and wins the thing
@@ryanchivwara5013 just to different, you’d assume they’ll include a Casino Battle Royal from Fight Forever, so I’ll take a swing and say Brian Cage cause WHOCANSTOPTHE WHOCANSTOPTHE
@@FrankieboyJryou predicted the aew game correctly but unfortunately not the winner
Can’t believe that Ludwig Kaiser’s the Jon Moxley of WWE.
THE Miz (btw his face run is great)
40:23 I think AAA had a show where they had a tournament where losers advance until the final loser unmasks
Ludwig Kaiser fighting for his life to not become Losewig Kaiser was the stuff of legends
Genuine question: Have either Jawnny or James given a reason why they hate The Miz so much or is it just a bit that I'm not getting?
i have enjoyed very few matches of his over a million years, that is all! :) - johnny
@@newLEGACYinc That's fair enough, hell, I like the guy and even I'll admit that the WWE booking has done him no favours (that could be said for the whole roster, honestly)
@@newLEGACYinche started doing high flying moves as a face now u got see it its actually not bad LOL
They seem to hate WWE entirely
@@Shmiguelly Most of it is jokes and humor thats the purpose of the channel, when they get serious they talk about the things they do like
"I'm bleeding. Making me the victor." -Ludvig Kaiser probably
Kaiser hitting a deadfall DDT was not on my bingo card
18:35 Pat McCafe. 😂
5:30 How in the hell can you find new glitches in the game when you aren't even *actually playing the game*, you boys are remarkable, truly outrageous
Bet Gunther only lost so much cause he was in tag matches on live events.
Also some trivia at 48:09 but miz and Damien were in the ring against each other three times one of them included bad Bunny at WM 37
nL boys really gotta get back into WWE. theyre popping off this year
Agreed
Johnny ain't watching WWE consistently ever again probably
It's really only great if you aren't a long term fan
Little known fact, when you factor in Cody's first run with the company, Seth Rollins has NEVER defeated Cody Rhodes in a match.
Y’all need to stop bullying Miz lmao he’s put on some absolute bangers in the past. The fatal four way at Extreme rules 2016, Vs Dolph at No Mercy 2016, the triple threat at Wrestlemania 34, Vs Seth at Backlash 2018, and both matches he’s had with Gunther this year are easy moty contenders.
This concept has been done before in GTS Wrestling they actually had a title belt called the Loserweight Championship and the loser was the champion that was done many years ago 😂
Gunther hasn’t even been pinned once since being on the main roster😭
Gunther on Main Roster: 😡.
Gunther on Live Events: 😵💫
I was convinced that Balor v Kaiser would continue the grand nL tradition of cursed Tables matches, so that ending caught me so off guard lol
That ending of the tables match was the best.
74 losses in a year is a wild stat.
wth you talking about? miz as face right now is awesome?
You guys are fucking geniuses.
Kane needs to come back and defend his gloat title
does the winner of this not need to face Kane for the title of GLOAT
Fun stream as always. One thing I'll say about WWE nowadays is that since Triple H took over, this is probably the best WWE has been since probably 2005.
We’d like to thank this tournament’s sponsors- Hank Hill and Tazz(“Ya suck Darby!”)
I wasn't really paying attention at the beginning and I could swear Dario Culo made an appearance.
Now you just made me miss Lucha Underground.
incredible that Miz and the Judgement Day have been in a feud since 2024 began
You should do ultimate winner tournament(same as this but people with the most wins of 2023) and have them face AXIOM
35:55 "I DEMAND YOU TAP"
If anyone wants to see the real life equivalent of this tournament, AAA had the Ruleta de la Muerte tournament this year at their Triplemania event, the wrestler who lost the finals had to remove their mask
I think for 2024, Miz should have to go to the ring wearing a bent tiara and sash that reads "BIGGEST LOSER 2023".
Merry Christmas Boysss!!!🎄🎄
It is honestly hilarious how Gunther has more losses through association.
Merry Christimas! I'm 2023 biggest loser, fuck that
Merry Christmas BOYS
When only accounting for broadcasted matches Damien, Dom, and Finn all have winning records.
If one wins the loser tournament - is he still a loser?
Why does macho sound like Chris danger ....
The real question is if the biggest loser is the guy who won… or maybe the guy who came in second in the biggest loser tournament.
Earl Hebner sure can disguise himself.
In all seriousness WWE has had a pretty good year storywise/in-ring wise. Of course you could pick out the same old WWE bullshit (RAW being 3 hours is still one of them) but overall they've had a good year! Its a great time to be a pro wrestling fan, regardless of all the tribalism going around. You can be a fan of multiple companies and can also disagree with certain aspects of multiple companies. Sorry for rambling on, just excited for the future of the business!
Also, jesus christ Gunther
It's like what Brian Zane says "Like what you like, don't be a dick".
NL was calling out for a repeat of CM Punk Carlito with this tournament
Gunther is so good that he makes me buy his false finishes in a video game
Merry Christmas everybody!
I'm surprised that Akira T Isn't on here, but then again he has been picking up things lately.
Damian Priest and the Miz have faced 4 times total. At the rumble, 20-man battle royal, tag match at WrestleMania, and that absolutely dog shit zombie match at backlash
when are we getting GM mode or Poipl daClown Jr
Well Miz did have the most loses this year so it only makes sense.
3:12 "Ludwig Kaiser gegen..."
Gegen wen?
The Miz is a Baby Heel
@newLEGACYinc so because Jawny asked... there was a company that did a Sub Tournament w/n their equivalent of the G-1; Dragon Gate in 2018 had the bottom wrestler in each Block compete to see who was the "lowest rated wrestler in the company" so yeah...
God, only one match in and it's a mess of glitches. Never change, 2K. Your terrible games make for amazing videos with the boys.
The G.L.O.T.Y. Tournament
(Greatest Loser Of This Year) 😂
Can we get more wrestling empire
But is Gunther losing in the 1’s tho
guys um im confused all these guys for the most part had a banger 2023 i mean gunther is the first man since 2007 to end a year an start a new one as IC champ XD
DenkOps sounds really weird doing the commentary ngl. Is he losing his voice?
*Plot twist:* The winner (loser?) of this tournament must immediately face the GREATEST LOSER OF ALL-TIME, KANE, for his title as the G.L.o.A.T.
What? No Michael Cole?
Could we see Loser title in Wggp return??
How the Fk is Gunther here?? 😂😂😂
The actual content was mid, but listening to Mr. Blud seethe about every single thing about modern WWE is much funnier
WWE has actually improved content wise this year. But there are still stuff they can improve upon!
Tv and house shows are so different. It's 8 different guys that have a wrost tv record.
and our video is about overall!
Wheres Logan?
What da ref doin?
Why isn't Kane the G.L.O.A.T not in this match?
I'd like some McCafe 😆
Best one you guys 🤣🤣🤣 macho Man 😂😂😂 roman reigns
Nice video
Every time they try to pass off Judgment Day as a threat, I just laugh. Take away Ripley and they are basically jobbers
The judgement day is my team
Imagine a tournament like this having one of the best matches of the year.
...And the rest have The Miz in them, so everyone still goes home unhappy.
Macho is chris
L , 7, WEENIE! 😉
Babyface Dom gear still in the game is annoying. Was literally a heel when the game dropped.
The scan was done before he turned heel
@@arashi86 Literally all they have to do is change the colors to black and purple
Ya know, I'm thinking maybe next year's should be by loss %.
Oh my
Biggest loser in aew tournament?
i know AEW doesnt have faces or heels that are over but the boos for dirty dom are real
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I wonder why Johnny takes part in these videos when he doesn't like modern WWE?
😂
Im actually early🎉🎉🎉
Shows you how poorly Gunther has been booked
99% of those losses are on live events
This tournament reminds me of Grim's Toy Show Wrestling's Loser Belt
Ooh, hey, if WGGP comes back, could the Loser Belt be a part of it?
Hello Adam 😊