Thank you and God Bless you for the illuminating and much needed explanation on Israel and "Israel". Deeply appreciate all what was spoken about, deepens our faith in our LORD. We do need to feed on the beauty and life giving Word in the Scriptures, in Romans 9 - 11. Thank you once again Pastor Ivor.
Nice to hear from you, Ivor. A good message. However, I am wondering about a few things that you said explicitly or by implication: Don’t you believe in the rapture of the saints? A secret taking of His bride, the church? In that case how do you explain the metaphor, ‘Jesus coming like a thief in the night’ which is in the NT, 1 Corinthian 15:51 off, 1 Thess 4:16-17, John 14, Mathew 24:40-41 & the parable of the 10 virgins etc. According to your message, I presume you don’t hold to a dispensational pre-millennial view on the last days like most of the American Evangelical churches. In that case what is your stance on the last days? Rejecting the dispensational pre-millennial view on Eschatology because this was a recent addition proposed by the John Nelson Darby of the Plymouth Brethren in the 1800’s or/and the Scofield Bible, by Hal Lindsay, Billy Graham, D L Moody or the LEFT BEHIND series is not fair because God has honed our beliefs throughout Christian church history to fine tune our beliefs using various Spirit guided great men of God. The apostolic fathers and apologists helped to understand deep theological concepts Through major social and cultural changes, wars and destruction Christian and catholic monasteries preserved the scriptures. Many attempts from Satan were debunked and the true gospel was brought to us today even after 2 millennia, still pure and to have the ability to transform lives, brought by the Holy Spirit of God. Through events like the Jerusalem council, Council of Nicaea, the Protestant reformation and so on, the truth has been honed, and we still firmly believe ‘Sola Fide’ and ‘Sola Scriptura’ In recent times also Billy Graham, four laws of Campus Crusade for Christ, the prayer of commitment are still being used although these are new things brought in the 20th century, used widely in church and people have been born again and become new creatures as the Bible says. All of these are new concepts to the evangelical church, but the fact of the matter is that these are God ordained. Just because something is new, we shouldn’t reject them. Jesus in his day asked his disciples to look for the imminent return of Christ knowing very well that He will be delayed for more than 2000 years. Why is that? Now that we are closer to the end times, Spirit filled men are understanding a plausible view of the second coming from all through scripture. The concept of the millenium is mentioned 6 times in Reveleation 20. The 3 1/2 years are mentioned many times.ie 42 weeks, 1230 days’ time, times and a half & so on. These things are falling into place now. Who thought that after nearly 2000 years a state of Israel can be born. Yet it happened in 1947. The temple is proposed and will be built. Looks like Ezekiel 40-48 will be the temple that will be built (The 1st and 2nd temples were not this size) This prophesy is not fulfilled yet) I understand that the American church is blindly supporting Israel whatever they do. Today’s Israel is an apostate nation. The Zionists who are ruling Israel now are mainly Atheists and their atrocities in Gaza is genocide no doubt and must be condemned by any right thinking person. However, I believe that God has a plan for Israel as a nation as well as the church. Gen 17:7-8 is an everlasting promise of the land also to the people of Israel, we can’t deny that. The way that they are trying to grab the land is atrocious. Psalms 105:8-11 also mentions that the covenant with Israel is eternal. Land included. However, God has a plan to bring back Israel to himself. A last-ditch effort of God to bring the remnant of Israel to the knowledge of His Messiah. I believe that the prophesy stated in Ezekiel 37, with the measurements to the temple and also Ezekiel 37:26-28 that the nation of Israel will be restored. There is also a prophesy in Ezekiel 5 that 2/3rd of the Israelites will be killed , I believe will happen because of their atrocities and only 1/3rd will remain who will all become Christians just like Paul said in Romans 11. That is what he meant by ÁLL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED. Anyway, I just wanted to write my critique on your sermon. However, Ivor, it was great studying under you in CTS. I enjoyed my time there. Wish you all the very best. Hope your family is doing well. It’s nice to hear you! I will look out for more! I hope you come to Sydney soon! If ever you come this way, we will get you to preach at our church and I’, m sure that my brother, Denver will want you to preach at his church as well.
This very important passage God explains in himself reconcile.thr remnant branches. All these branches. You are no longer. In whom the whole for will rejoice in the Lord and be glad.
King Herod was not a jew although a Semite. He was an Edomite ( Easau's lineage) his fsther was antpater the idumean and his mother was a nabatean arab princess who converted to judaism .
😂rooted in his own messiah. Most of the Jews called a heritival sect. Those who were. People are saying. They opposed them as you have disqualified Paul used the illustration. Israel is like the olive tree. The trunk is made up Jesus Christ himself he locks . He names them the remnant. Blessed to be a blessing
Tye bible is not the fit the modern states of bible. Your name will not be Jacob but will be. I will make your name great all people on earth will be blessed on earth. Will form in Egypt to be a means of blessing in the last days the mountain. All people. To the house. Israel was blessed to be a blessing Israel rebels against. Israel become worshippers Baal even the prophet of God to Nineveh. There emerges. Later the book of John the Baptist. Eventually to be an outright called the area of the court. If any gentile crossesv the wall in it's insukar way
Thank you, Ivor. 🙏
Succinct and clearly and boldly spoken.
Blessings.
Thank you and God Bless you for the illuminating and much needed explanation on Israel and "Israel". Deeply appreciate all what was spoken about, deepens our faith in our LORD. We do need to feed on the beauty and life giving Word in the Scriptures, in Romans 9 - 11. Thank you once again Pastor Ivor.
A perspective that all Christians need to consider seriously
Nice to hear from you, Ivor. A good message.
However, I am wondering about a few things that you said explicitly or by implication:
Don’t you believe in the rapture of the saints?
A secret taking of His bride, the church? In that case how do you explain the metaphor, ‘Jesus coming like a thief in the night’ which is in the NT, 1 Corinthian 15:51 off, 1 Thess 4:16-17, John 14, Mathew 24:40-41 & the parable of the 10 virgins etc.
According to your message, I presume you don’t hold to a dispensational pre-millennial view on the last days like most of the American Evangelical churches.
In that case what is your stance on the last days?
Rejecting the dispensational pre-millennial view on Eschatology because this was a recent addition proposed by the John Nelson Darby of the Plymouth Brethren in the 1800’s or/and the Scofield Bible, by Hal Lindsay, Billy Graham, D L Moody or the LEFT BEHIND series is not fair because God has honed our beliefs throughout Christian church history to fine tune our beliefs using various Spirit guided great men of God.
The apostolic fathers and apologists helped to understand deep theological concepts Through major social and cultural changes, wars and destruction Christian and catholic monasteries preserved the scriptures.
Many attempts from Satan were debunked and the true gospel was brought to us today even after 2 millennia, still pure and to have the ability to transform lives, brought by the Holy Spirit of God. Through events like the Jerusalem council, Council of Nicaea, the Protestant reformation and so on, the truth has been honed, and we still firmly believe ‘Sola Fide’ and ‘Sola Scriptura’
In recent times also Billy Graham, four laws of Campus Crusade for Christ, the prayer of commitment are still being used although these are new things brought in the 20th century, used widely in church and people have been born again and become new creatures as the Bible says.
All of these are new concepts to the evangelical church, but the fact of the matter is that these are God ordained.
Just because something is new, we shouldn’t reject them.
Jesus in his day asked his disciples to look for the imminent return of Christ knowing very well that He will be delayed for more than 2000 years. Why is that?
Now that we are closer to the end times, Spirit filled men are understanding a plausible view of the second coming from all through scripture.
The concept of the millenium is mentioned 6 times in Reveleation 20. The 3 1/2 years are mentioned many times.ie 42 weeks, 1230 days’ time, times and a half & so on. These things are falling into place now.
Who thought that after nearly 2000 years a state of Israel can be born. Yet it happened in 1947. The temple is proposed and will be built. Looks like Ezekiel 40-48 will be the temple that will be built (The 1st and 2nd temples were not this size) This prophesy is not fulfilled yet)
I understand that the American church is blindly supporting Israel whatever they do. Today’s Israel is an apostate nation. The Zionists who are ruling Israel now are mainly Atheists and their atrocities in Gaza is genocide no doubt and must be condemned by any right thinking person. However, I believe that God has a plan for Israel as a nation as well as the church.
Gen 17:7-8 is an everlasting promise of the land also to the people of Israel, we can’t deny that.
The way that they are trying to grab the land is atrocious. Psalms 105:8-11 also mentions that the covenant with Israel is eternal. Land included.
However, God has a plan to bring back Israel to himself. A last-ditch effort of God to bring the remnant of Israel to the knowledge of His Messiah.
I believe that the prophesy stated in Ezekiel 37, with the measurements to the temple and also Ezekiel 37:26-28 that the nation of Israel will be restored.
There is also a prophesy in Ezekiel 5 that 2/3rd of the Israelites will be killed , I believe will happen because of their atrocities and only 1/3rd will remain who will all become Christians just like Paul said in Romans 11. That is what he meant by ÁLL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED.
Anyway, I just wanted to write my critique on your sermon.
However, Ivor, it was great studying under you in CTS. I enjoyed my time there.
Wish you all the very best. Hope your family is doing well.
It’s nice to hear you! I will look out for more!
I hope you come to Sydney soon! If ever you come this way, we will get you to preach at our church and I’, m sure that my brother, Denver will want you to preach at his church as well.
This very important passage God explains in himself reconcile.thr remnant branches. All these branches. You are no longer. In whom the whole for will rejoice in the Lord and be glad.
Jacob. How do you feel like when you speak snoutv
Over the last. Just 77 years some of you may have visited the Israel. Third richest in Asia.
King Herod was not a jew although a Semite. He was an Edomite ( Easau's lineage) his fsther was antpater the idumean and his mother was a nabatean arab princess who converted to judaism
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Jacob was called Israel
😂rooted in his own messiah. Most of the Jews called a heritival sect. Those who were. People are saying. They opposed them as you have disqualified Paul used the illustration. Israel is like the olive tree. The trunk is made up Jesus Christ himself he locks . He names them the remnant. Blessed to be a blessing
Tye bible is not the fit the modern states of bible. Your name will not be Jacob but will be. I will make your name great all people on earth will be blessed on earth. Will form in Egypt to be a means of blessing in the last days the mountain. All people. To the house. Israel was blessed to be a blessing Israel rebels against. Israel become worshippers Baal even the prophet of God to Nineveh. There emerges. Later the book of John the Baptist. Eventually to be an outright called the area of the court. If any gentile crossesv the wall in it's insukar way