I prefer Red Dragon to Silence of the Lambs personally. As for crime in general Elmore Leonard is my favorite crime writer of all time. Pronto, Get Shorty, Rum Punch, Maximum Bob or Killshot are good books to start with if you’ve never read him.
Dude thanks so much I always wanted to get into crime novels but I really never knew which ones were good or where to start so now I know thanks man. These all sound amazing .
Cheers David! Crime is a great genre and it has a long tradition of attracting really wonderful prose stylists as well. Great writing + awesome action packed plots = what more could you want! haha :)
Wow! I can't remember the last time I read a "proper sized" book in one sitting!! Hmm, you've now got me thinking what my favourite crime novels are...
Please do a video! That would be amazing. As you can see from my list, I know a lot more about classic crime rather than contemporary and the new stuff looks so good. Definitely need the advice of others on this genre as well! :)
My top 5 crime novels, March Violets by Philip Kerr, The Jealous Kind by James Lee Burke, The Snowman by Jo Nesbo, Sovereign by CJ Sansom , Red Square by Martin Cruz Smith.......also anything by Arnaldur Indridasson, Ian Rankin.
I've had The Long Goodbye on my TBR shelf for a year. Ugh... I need to read that now. Thanks for the recommendations! And thanks for reminding me to read Chandler's novel.
Great choices. I've read all bar Alex by Lemaitre, sounds good though. I love reading crime fiction. My favourite was Ross MacDonald's Lew Archer novels.I also recently read The Moonstone and I absolutely adored it.
I loved the Galton Case by Ross MacDonald. I'm starting to appreciate him over Chandler in some ways. I feel what you lose in style and language with Chandler, you gain in coherence, thematic structure, and plotting with MacDonald!
I should point out that Red Harvest strongly influenced the samurai movie Yojimbo. This was why Sergio Leone didn't credit Akira Kurosawa in A Fistful Of Dollars. Coincidentally Django was similar to A Fistful Of Dollars. Then the Bruce Willis movie Last Man Standing came out and credits Yojimbo. Four movies and none of them credit Dashiell Hammet.
Great video!! :D I recently read The Maltese Falcon by Dashiell Hammit and I kinda enjoyed - or aspects of it (the aspects that weren't the plot haha).. Im been thinking about picking up The Long Goodbuy as well, but you got me away more interested in The Moonstone - it sounds amazing - putting it on my tbr immediately!! :) xx
Moonstone is so much fun. It's as if Collins is pastiching the Victorian genre even while living in the period it's crazy. Long Goodbye is a great shout too. You didn't like the Maltese Falcon plot!? I guess it was a lot of running around but I thought it was really claustrophobic and intense! :D
My specific recommendation for you Leanne would definitely be The Talented Mr. Ripley by Patricia Highsmith. It is amazing. It's essentially Henry James' The Ambassadors with a crime thriller twist!
+Jakob Tanner Oh you know me so well! That's one of the few crime novels I've read and I enjoyed it a lot. We used it in a fiction writing module as an example of how exactly to write a crime novel. I learned SO much from her work. May have to pick up another one of her's soon!
Okay Leanne this another one of your comments that you gotta expand for me. Because it sounds so interesting! Tell me more about what you learned about writing from Talented MR. Ripley ;)
WELL :P I personally enjoyed learning how to craft a reverse whodunnit. So y'know, rather than trying to work out who committed a crime, you end up sympathising with the 'bad guy' because you see everything from the focalized 3rd person. That's what I really enjoyed about Ripley. Being put (to a certain extent) in his shoes. And OH MY GOODNESS HIGHSMITH CAN MAKE THINGS TENSE!! I think it's the scene where Tom s caught in Dickie's clothes by Freddie (I hope I remembered all the right names!) and he's trying to worm his way out of it. Do you have a favourite part of the novel? That's definitely mine. I never tried it out for myself, unfortunately. Did all my work on historical fic and metanarratives. I hope to go back over my notes when I'm more familiar with crime and see what I can do... though I'm not sure I'm quite up to the challenge!
People tell me Red Dragon is even better. I can't say as I haven't read it. But yeah Thomas Harris is awesome. So many authors have been inspired by him too...from Stephen King to Roberto Bolano! Let me know how you get on with them :)
Chandler: The Little Sister. Hammet: Red Harvest. Rex Stout: Prisoner's Base. Ross Macdonald: Find A Victim. Adrian McKinty: Dead I May Well Be. Tom Clancy: Without Remorse.
@@1990-t1j ...yep. Without Remorse did have some military stuff (maybe 35%) but the main story line for the hero, a retired veteran, was revenge on a ring of drug dealing pimps and crooked cops in Baltimore.
I got a book The leopard but at that time i didn't know that this book is a part of a series. So can i still read the leopard without reading the previous books?
Alex was a bit meh, but Raymond Chandler is awesome. The Long Goodbye is my favourite, I love the autobiographical elements in this one (I personally think The Lady in the Lake is the best place to start). Yes Red Harvest is my favourite Dashiell Hammett too, although The Thin Man is pretty great too. Where was the mention of James M Cain to complete the big three in pulp crime novels?
The Lady in the Lake is a great shout for a starting place. I have odd feelings about recommending The Big Sleep as a place to start. The writing is great, but I find the plotting really difficult to follow! Oooh I've read The Postman Rings Twice (but wasn't a huge fan - soz). I should try it again though cause I read it when I was at uni and a bit prejudiced of anything not considered high brow (I was a total bastard, I know). I've loved all of Hammett's books except for the Glass Key. What other crime books would you recommend? :D :D
The Big Sleep is a great book but I think it could be a little confusing. I recommend Lady in the Lake because you get a taste for his style but it isn't overly complex. If you didn't like The Postman Always Rings Twice, try something else first, maybe Mildred Pierce or Double Indemnity. If you like them, go back to The Postman. Have you read Jim Thompson?
@@Arliandro it’s a great one too, I think too many people start with The Big Sleep and it’s not the easiest from the series and probably throw people off
Hi! You recommended The Moonstone! I inmediatly checked the "subscribe" bottom. It´s one of my all time favourites. I love Chandler too. I´ll check out Alex. Thanks!
Hi! I love crime novels and your video just gave me 5 (ok, 4 since I was familiar with The silence of the lambs XD) brand new recommendations that seem great! So thank you!:)
These Anglo-Saxons run away from anything that is not immediately understandable. To better understand Eco you need a basic culture on certain issues that not everyone has
I don't read much crime but I have read silence of the lambs. I read it in my first week of university and that probably wasn't smart as I was already pretty anxious and stressed.
The only Hammett I've read is The Maltese Falcon, which I liked. The only thing I have against some of the noir writers is that there is homophobia typical to that era. I should read The Moonstone. I started reading The Lord Whimsey books of Dorothy Sayers and really liked them.
A lot of early crime novels suffer from sexism and homophobia...some overcome their time periods but a lot don't. It's a really interesting discussion tho (maybe a future video even!)... why do we continue to read and prize authors who exhibit perspectives that seem so dated? I don't know. Will have to think. Also I've been meaning to try Dorothy Sayers! Where should I start?
John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee series (21 books). Chuck Hogan's Prince Of Thieves (AKA The Town). The Friends Of Eddie Coyle by George V. Higgins. John D. MacDonald's The Last One Left.
I absolutely love crime books, I did my own too 5 psychological thrillers video and that has a couple of crime books, try stranger child by Rachel Abbott :)
Oooh Stranger Child sounds good. My knowledge of the psychological thriller genre is quite minimal actually (I haven't read Gone Girl -- shh!) Have you done any Harlen Coben? He's caught my eye before ;)
Jakob Tanner I've never tried any of his books before but thrillers and crime novels are probably top of my genre list, you should give gone girl a try, it is such a clever story.
Swag by Elmore Leonard is in my top five fore sure. Great list. I definitely like the continental op better than Sam spade. If you haven't read any of Travis McGee books by john d Macdonald, give the deep blue good-by a try.
crime is not a lesser loved genre, that's what i love the most
I love the "The Catcher in the Rye" poster in the back
What a miracle!! A crime novel review that included Hammett & Chandler.
I prefer Red Dragon to Silence of the Lambs personally. As for crime in general Elmore Leonard is my favorite crime writer of all time. Pronto, Get Shorty, Rum Punch, Maximum Bob or Killshot are good books to start with if you’ve never read him.
Huge OTR listener ….sooooooooo thankful I listen to audiobooks 👍🏻🥳💗💖❣️💓💕🥳✨
Dude thanks so much I always wanted to get into crime novels but I really never knew which ones were good or where to start so now I know thanks man. These all sound amazing .
Cheers David! Crime is a great genre and it has a long tradition of attracting really wonderful prose stylists as well. Great writing + awesome action packed plots = what more could you want! haha :)
Wow! I can't remember the last time I read a "proper sized" book in one sitting!! Hmm, you've now got me thinking what my favourite crime novels are...
Please do a video! That would be amazing. As you can see from my list, I know a lot more about classic crime rather than contemporary and the new stuff looks so good. Definitely need the advice of others on this genre as well! :)
My top 5 crime novels, March Violets by Philip Kerr, The Jealous Kind by James Lee Burke, The Snowman by Jo Nesbo, Sovereign by CJ Sansom , Red Square by Martin Cruz Smith.......also anything by Arnaldur Indridasson, Ian Rankin.
Ahhh I love Silence of the Lambs!! Checking these other books out! :D Great video!
I've had The Long Goodbye on my TBR shelf for a year. Ugh... I need to read that now. Thanks for the recommendations! And thanks for reminding me to read Chandler's novel.
Yeah dude do it! Chandler is the best. I'm hoping to do a "Where to Start" video on him soon :) :) :)
Always up for exploring new crime authors (new to me). Raymond Chandler, going to add him to my tbr. Great video! Thanks for the tip.
James Ellroy, the "demon dog" is far better than all those writers!
Glad I found your channel bro. I will check some of these out. Subscribed.
thank you so much:)
i liked your list just wish u put the authors and titles in the description
Tokyo Noir: Neon Identity by Nick John. Out July 1.
just read the first 100 pages of Alex and its great. turns out Alex is the sequel novel
Great choices. I've read all bar Alex by Lemaitre, sounds good though. I love reading crime fiction. My favourite was Ross MacDonald's Lew Archer novels.I also recently read The Moonstone and I absolutely adored it.
I loved the Galton Case by Ross MacDonald. I'm starting to appreciate him over Chandler in some ways. I feel what you lose in style and language with Chandler, you gain in coherence, thematic structure, and plotting with MacDonald!
Have you read any Ian Rankin? Absolutely gripping
Glad you included Hammett and Chandler.
Suggestion for you: take a look at Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer novels (starting with I, The Jury).
I should point out that Red Harvest strongly influenced the samurai movie Yojimbo. This was why Sergio Leone didn't credit Akira Kurosawa in A Fistful Of Dollars. Coincidentally Django was similar to A Fistful Of Dollars. Then the Bruce Willis movie Last Man Standing came out and credits Yojimbo. Four movies and none of them credit Dashiell Hammet.
Great video!! :D I recently read The Maltese Falcon by Dashiell Hammit and I kinda enjoyed - or aspects of it (the aspects that weren't the plot haha).. Im been thinking about picking up The Long Goodbuy as well, but you got me away more interested in The Moonstone - it sounds amazing - putting it on my tbr immediately!! :) xx
Moonstone is so much fun. It's as if Collins is pastiching the Victorian genre even while living in the period it's crazy. Long Goodbye is a great shout too. You didn't like the Maltese Falcon plot!? I guess it was a lot of running around but I thought it was really claustrophobic and intense! :D
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I sympathized very much with your sence. Because there were three my favorite novels.
Thank you for your recommendations! Crime is definitely one of my lesser read genres and I should fix that!
My specific recommendation for you Leanne would definitely be The Talented Mr. Ripley by Patricia Highsmith. It is amazing. It's essentially Henry James' The Ambassadors with a crime thriller twist!
+Jakob Tanner Oh you know me so well! That's one of the few crime novels I've read and I enjoyed it a lot. We used it in a fiction writing module as an example of how exactly to write a crime novel. I learned SO much from her work. May have to pick up another one of her's soon!
Okay Leanne this another one of your comments that you gotta expand for me. Because it sounds so interesting! Tell me more about what you learned about writing from Talented MR. Ripley ;)
WELL :P I personally enjoyed learning how to craft a reverse whodunnit. So y'know, rather than trying to work out who committed a crime, you end up sympathising with the 'bad guy' because you see everything from the focalized 3rd person. That's what I really enjoyed about Ripley. Being put (to a certain extent) in his shoes. And OH MY GOODNESS HIGHSMITH CAN MAKE THINGS TENSE!! I think it's the scene where Tom s caught in Dickie's clothes by Freddie (I hope I remembered all the right names!) and he's trying to worm his way out of it. Do you have a favourite part of the novel? That's definitely mine. I never tried it out for myself, unfortunately. Did all my work on historical fic and metanarratives. I hope to go back over my notes when I'm more familiar with crime and see what I can do... though I'm not sure I'm quite up to the challenge!
Great reviews!! I have owned the Hannibal books forever and have never picked them up :( but now you got me thinking about them!
People tell me Red Dragon is even better. I can't say as I haven't read it. But yeah Thomas Harris is awesome. So many authors have been inspired by him too...from Stephen King to Roberto Bolano! Let me know how you get on with them :)
Raymond chandler didn't invented the genre but definetly made it his own.
I’m late but OMA GOD U HAVE A CATCHER IN THE RYE POSTER!!!!!!!
Chandler: The Little Sister.
Hammet: Red Harvest.
Rex Stout: Prisoner's Base.
Ross Macdonald: Find A Victim.
Adrian McKinty: Dead I May Well Be.
Tom Clancy: Without Remorse.
Tom Clancy?
@@1990-t1j ...yep. Without Remorse did have some military stuff (maybe 35%) but the main story line for the hero, a retired veteran, was revenge on a ring of drug dealing pimps and crooked cops in Baltimore.
I got a book The leopard but at that time i didn't know that this book is a part of a series. So can i still read the leopard without reading the previous books?
Alex was a bit meh, but Raymond Chandler is awesome. The Long Goodbye is my favourite, I love the autobiographical elements in this one (I personally think The Lady in the Lake is the best place to start). Yes Red Harvest is my favourite Dashiell Hammett too, although The Thin Man is pretty great too. Where was the mention of James M Cain to complete the big three in pulp crime novels?
The Lady in the Lake is a great shout for a starting place. I have odd feelings about recommending The Big Sleep as a place to start. The writing is great, but I find the plotting really difficult to follow! Oooh I've read The Postman Rings Twice (but wasn't a huge fan - soz). I should try it again though cause I read it when I was at uni and a bit prejudiced of anything not considered high brow (I was a total bastard, I know). I've loved all of Hammett's books except for the Glass Key. What other crime books would you recommend? :D :D
The Big Sleep is a great book but I think it could be a little confusing. I recommend Lady in the Lake because you get a taste for his style but it isn't overly complex. If you didn't like The Postman Always Rings Twice, try something else first, maybe Mildred Pierce or Double Indemnity. If you like them, go back to The Postman. Have you read Jim Thompson?
@@KnowledgelostOrgOnline what do you think the biig sleep?
@@Arliandro it’s a great one too, I think too many people start with The Big Sleep and it’s not the easiest from the series and probably throw people off
Wow. Great Video, Don't want to spoil anything, but the last book is one of my favorites. Well done. Could I send you a copy of my new book?
Hi! You recommended The Moonstone! I inmediatly checked the "subscribe" bottom. It´s one of my all time favourites. I love Chandler too. I´ll check out Alex. Thanks!
Hi! I love crime novels and your video just gave me 5 (ok, 4 since I was familiar with The silence of the lambs XD) brand new recommendations that seem great! So thank you!:)
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The name of the rose. Difficult read... but amazing crime novel
These Anglo-Saxons run away from anything that is not immediately understandable. To better understand Eco you need a basic culture on certain issues that not everyone has
Historical fiction review pls
I don't read much crime but I have read silence of the lambs. I read it in my first week of university and that probably wasn't smart as I was already pretty anxious and stressed.
Haha it's a super stressful book! The suspense is master class. I hope you overcame it in the end and enjoyed your freshers week! :P
The only Hammett I've read is The Maltese Falcon, which I liked. The only thing I have against some of the noir writers is that there is homophobia typical to that era. I should read The Moonstone. I started reading The Lord Whimsey books of Dorothy Sayers and really liked them.
A lot of early crime novels suffer from sexism and homophobia...some overcome their time periods but a lot don't. It's a really interesting discussion tho (maybe a future video even!)... why do we continue to read and prize authors who exhibit perspectives that seem so dated? I don't know. Will have to think. Also I've been meaning to try Dorothy Sayers! Where should I start?
John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee series (21 books). Chuck Hogan's Prince Of Thieves (AKA The Town). The Friends Of Eddie Coyle by George V. Higgins. John D. MacDonald's The Last One Left.
Great video! These authors inspired me to become a writer.
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Author of The Edward Mendez, P. I. series.
UGH. That cover is creepy. Will these crime novels scare me? Ekkk sounds scary. Miss your videos! Need to watch more!!!
Hey! They're super scary and gory and gross. I don't know if they'll be up your alley :P Though the Moonstone is the least gory and fun!
Good to know!!! Do you watch scary movies too? We started streaming Penny Dreadful but couldn't do it.
I absolutely love crime books, I did my own too 5 psychological thrillers video and that has a couple of crime books, try stranger child by Rachel Abbott :)
Oooh Stranger Child sounds good. My knowledge of the psychological thriller genre is quite minimal actually (I haven't read Gone Girl -- shh!) Have you done any Harlen Coben? He's caught my eye before ;)
Jakob Tanner I've never tried any of his books before but thrillers and crime novels are probably top of my genre list, you should give gone girl a try, it is such a clever story.
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Great video! Check out my hometown favorite, David Goodis. Shoot The Piano Player is awesome.
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james cain is worth a peep~
Swag by Elmore Leonard is in my top five fore sure. Great list. I definitely like the continental op better than Sam spade. If you haven't read any of Travis McGee books by john d Macdonald, give the deep blue good-by a try.
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These are all a bit old , something contemporary please!!!