The dumbest number cult is people getting mad at JJ Watt for wearing #99 on the ice. Dude wore the number his entire NFL career so who cares if he uses his number for beer leauge.
99 is a very specific number in the beer league. Take me for instance, I started to wear the double 9 once I really started to suck. You have to be the worst player on your squad to wear 99… or be JJ Watt.
It used to be, teams shared a single penalty box. Even after a fight. Two minute penalties were served for the full two minutes. No matter how many goals were scored on the power play. Freezing the puck against the boards got a stoppage in play and a face off. There used to be a time when there was no center ice line. With the center line came into NHL hockey, the pass over two lines was considered as being offside. Teams disapproved of goalie masks, because they felt the mask partially blocked the goalies view of pucks, at their feet. Referees would drop the puck at face offs whenever they felt the time was right. So face offs went off quickly.
IMO the player should have to sit the full 2 minutes if the Power Play team scores teams play 5-on-5 but that player cant be put in till after the 2 minutes are finished
@@princechickenwings2746 Nice idea- but in reality it would be more than a 2 minute penalty- as you would need to wait for a stoppage in play to get him out.
Scotty Bowman, the greatest hockey coach of all time, also didn't like the number 13. He refused to stay in any room on the 13th floor of a hotel, and if the hotel's floor numbers skipped 13 to accommodate people like him, he would refuse to stay on the 14th floor, because that was really the 13th floor. And after all of that, he would add the digits of his room number, and if they added to 13, he would request a different room. Upon hearing how much he hated that number, one reporter asked why one of his players at the time, Slava Kozlov, wore number 13. Bowman just shrugged and said, "It works for him". One can be superstitious, and even extremely superstitious, without being a jerk about it.
Lou is also known to have his players be clean shaven. Horvat and Tavares are good examples of this. Tavares instantly grew a beard in Toronto, Horvat had the scruff until he landed on Long Island.
The stuff about Lou isn’t really NHL rules though. These are specific rules for the specific team he GMs. The NHL didn’t forcing Hosang to change his number. Also, Hosang’s number change didn’t start some spiral that saw him eventually play in Russia. Despite his immense talent, he never made a consistent impact in games. He wasn’t worth keeping around. He also “famously” was sent packing by Garth Snow back to either juniors or the AHL after showing up late to training camp.
I hadn't heard anything about Desjardins being forced to change his number. During training camp there are a lot of players and the less established players are often given high numbers (in the Sharks system, can't speak about other teams). After they're established a bit in their career as an NHLer they often change to a lower number. From a San Jose Hockey Now article with the title "30 Sharks: Why Did Andrew Desjardins Wear No. 69?": “I actually didn’t pick that number,” admitted the former San Jose Sharks player. “It was given to me as a camp number. I eventually made [the Sharks] but as a young guy, I wasn’t able to change numbers and I played a few years with that number. Then, when I was able to change numbers, I changed it to 10.”
Probably falls under the "star player" and he was wearing it before I was his boss exception. He let jagr and a few other stars rock high numbers on the devils back in the day
In the late 70's, during their 4 consecutive Stanley cup winning run, the Habs Big Three Defensemen, Larry Robinson, Guy Lapointe and Serge Savard used to block shots all the time. They were paired with the bottom 3 defensemen that specialized in blocking shots; guys like Brian Engblom, Rod Langway, Bill Nyrop, Rick Chartraw, Pierre Bouchard and others. Defense wins championships and the 70's Habs excelled at it.
That was his point though. His thought process is that the only thing players should find important is team success. He figured a player caring about their number is selfish
Dumbest rule is the trapezoid. Why does the league penalize goalies for being too good is beyond me. Martin Brodeur is the reason for this rule because he was amazing at handling the puck…almost like a 3rd defensemen. So, what does the NHL do, invent the trapezoid to penalize amazing goaltenders. Dumbest rule ever!
Other than Lemieux, four other players have worn the No. 66. Yanick Dupre, Milan Novy and Gino Odjick all wore it for a year. This past season, T.J. Brodie of the Calgary Flames wore the number as well.
And technically, anyone can wear 66, as long as they aren't in the Penguins organization, the Pittsburgh Penguins are the only team that has retired 66.
Way back in 1992 when I was 11 I bought a San Jose Sharks jersey large enough to fit when I was in high school. I had personalized it with my name and number 69. I never saw anyone wear that number, so it was perfect. It’s not for the obvious reason I picked that number. I took 6 from Mario Lemieux’s 66 and a 9 from Wayne Gretzky’s 99 and put it together, 69! I was a bigger fan of Mario, so his 6 goes 1st. To this day I still have that jersey and it still fits. My oldest jersey in my collection.
Ho-Sang continued to play for the Islanders after he changed his number to 26. I think Ho-Sang having 2 points in 10 games in his third NHL season had more to do with the Islanders moving on than any scuffle about his jersey number.
Ho-sang's jersey number speaks volume to his questionable character. Yes he did play 10 games but that was also the season Lou took over. Where he would never play in the NHL again
@@RobTalksHockey Reasonable minds can differ on this for sure. Ultimately, after 225 AHL games over 6 years, he was a .533 point-per-game player in the minors. Even after he went to the Marlies and no longer had Lou's rules to worry about, he never cracked the NHL lineup. There are 32 teams in the league and all of them passed on Ho-Sang. I don't think there is anyone who has a worse reputation in the league than Tony DeAngelo (deservedly so), but he has been signed twice because he produces. I am not happy about this, because we need more Ho-Sangs in the league and less DeAngelos. Luckily, he strikes me as the kind of guy that does not need hockey to be happy.
Not a fan of Lou’s mishandling here. Hockey’s changed a bunch since the Devils dominated with Lou’s rules. Toronto gained their stride post-LL and the NYI are a scoring ‘black hole’, mostly winning when they are from the skills a goalie that was drafted by Garth Snow. Can’t say I saw any character issues in Ho-Sang beyond not always being committed to defense, and there’s a player or three on just about every roster doing the same thing. That whole episode with NYI looks “rife with shenanigans” that look worse on a hockey exec/mgmt than a kid in their early 20’s.
@@stolendrones I am not sure what you're referring to by Lou's mishandling here. "Toronto gained their stride post-LL and the NYI are a scoring ‘black hole’": worth noting that the Leafs have not won a single playoff series since Lou left and the Islanders have gone to two conference finals, in one instance losing 0-1 in game 7 to the eventual cup winners. "mostly winning when they are from the skills a goalie that was drafted by Garth Snow": Sorokin has not been the starting goaltender until last year, when they did not make the playoffs. LL joined the Islanders in 2018. Before Sorokin, the Islanders certainly did have strong goaltending, but it came from Lehner (signed as a FA by LL, 2018-19 Vezina finalist) and then Varlamov (signed as a FA by LL, backstopped to two conference finals). Since LL, the post-season the success (other than the first round of 20-21) has been backstopped by LL FA signings, not Sorokin. "Can’t say I saw any character issues in Ho-Sang beyond not always being committed to defense": I am not sure how closely you followed Ho-Sang's years when Garth Snow was still the GM, but he was quoted as saying "It's time to grow up" after sending him home on the first day of training camp. I am not Lou's biggest fan or greatest defender, but you take the good (two conference final runs) with the bad (losing a talented high-draft-pick) and so far the good has outweighed the bad.
Lamoriello sounds like he is stuck in the days of the Original 6 era, where no player wore a jersey number higher than 30. During the first decade of the expansion era, players and goalies started wearing jersey numbers between 31 and 40, like Tony Esposito wearing 35 for Chicago during the 1970s. Then, in 1979, Wayne Gretzky would change the jersey number landscape by wearing the highest number possible, which is 99. Since then, no one has worn number 99 in the NHL, though Connor McDavid, and Kirill Kaprizov, are currently wearing the next highest jersey number with 97 (unless there are full time NHLers currently wearing 98).
This is hilarious Lou built my Devils to over a decade of success including 3 Stanley cups and 5 East cups Now the next Devils dynasty(hopefully) Our Captain is #13 and our star player is #86
The picture of Drew Miller is from when Mark Stones skate came up and sliced his cheek. Stone lost his balance and fell right after the face off. Miller was coming in to the circle to make a play on the puck and was in the absolute wrong place at the wrong time. Total freak accident. His broken jaw was a different incident.
I mean everyone knows 13 is allegedly a bad luck number so I can see why Lou didn’t like the number 13. There are buildings that either skip the 13th floor and go 12 14 15 or just make the 13th floor like a storage floor. So I get it. It’s common to think that of that number
And then there's asshole like me just born of a friday the 13th. Lou would probably trade me immediately if I were a player and on any team he started working for.
Ironically, that's why I wore the number. Our team's had the numbers already on jerseys from 1 -20, and no one wanted to wear 13...so being the one that always ha to be different, I did. lol
I modded my own fishbowl so that there's no need for a chin-cup. It just sits perfectly into the J-clips and is held in place by the straps I sewed onto the sides instead of having it come from the bottom. I used to wear a half-shield until I lost enough teeth playing beer league to grow tired of it and just switched. But, the chin-cup got in the way of my vision. I was losing pucks in my feet where I hadn't before. So, I did something about it. And, I can say with 100% confidence that it's a better and safer design that anything out there. It literally feels like I'm wearing a half-shield but with the protection of a full visor. I even sparked 2 other players on my team to do the same thing. And, it's just better. There should be no rule about wearing a full visor. However, if you choose to wear one, and you get into a fight without first taking it off, you should get an extra penalty.
Lou logic is so utterly idiotic. Is he gonna pay everyone equally too? Its about the team....really? LOU MY LINEMATE IS MAKING 5 MILLION MORE THAN ME AND I CANT WEAR NUMBER 90?
What a strange way to pronounce Canadien. You attempted a French “en” but tacked it onto an Anglo pronunciation. What I’m used to here in Canada is either French or English but not a hybrid.
The reason for fish bowls not being aloud is, they are dangerous in scrums. They're a target for grabbing. And if someone's falling, they're going for the mask, pulling the other person down head first
@@RobTalksHockey The NHL has a rule against players punching each other in the face too, which is why it virtually never happens anymore. In all seriousness though, some things you can't fix with a rule because during the pace and emotion of gameplay, guys will do it regardless. Especially in matters of safety, it's much better to solve it with equipment if possible, rather than try to mitigate the damage with penalty minutes or suspensions.
Then have them wear the plastic fishbowl from these ___ companies only that make the full fishbowl with only micro airholes. NCAA is talking about forcing the cages to go away and use only the True Fishbowls due to cage grabbing. If everyone has a mandatory full fishbowl they do not get hurt as easy.
i get why they put the rule in, i was there before/when they did it. but the shooting the puck over glass = automatic penalty is just stupid these days. no one does it on purpose anymore so its just a dumb (and one of the few) penalties the refs HAVE to call..
Keep the rule - but lower the glass on the sides of the rinks. Nothing more boring than guys whipping pucks down the ice by using the 10 foot high side glass. Low glass will allow the defender to possibly stop the puck and keep the pressure on.
I love the full shield, which is mandatory in NCAA hockey, because it prevents gory facial injuries that are so easily avoidable. But please don't call it a fishbowl, that is such an annoying term for it.
Lou is not someone i would work hard for, if he was my boss. In fact, i would call in sick whenever i could and use the time to apply for other jobs. His style is from the past.
Regarding the Ho-Sang stuff, that was one of the dumbest controversies out there. Lemieux never played for the Islanders. Gretzky wore #9 for Gordie Howe until someone on the Oilers already had it. Nobody ever saw that as disrespect from him (or anyone else who wore #9 for the same reason) Similarly, Lebron has worn #23 without controversy. People are going to hate on this, but I can't help but feel that Ho-Sang's race played a factor into the controversy of him choosing that number. As mentioned, the Brodie thing didn't catch nearly the attention. "Attitude" is an oft-cited reason as to why a non-white player didn't mix in well with the team. It's a pretty suspicious word.
Brodie was likely assigned #66... as for Ho-Sang, his older Instagram posts show what kinda guy he is. Posting pics of random girls asses with a sexual caption... that's not NHL Player Behavior. Same with Evander Kane posting pics of himself with money stacks. These aren't Rock Stars or Rappers. They are NHL Players. Also #9, #23 are common numbers. We are talking about #66. Mario Lemieux who was quite possibly, better than Gretzky. It's not a coincidence that almost all NHL Players do not wear that number.
@@AlphaZaius67 Wtf? Why is Evander Kane in this conversation? You trying to prove this isn't racism by mentioning another black guy with attitude problems? And you picked the dumbest things about Evander Kane to nit pick. Dude is accused of far worse, actually criminal behavior. And you're upset that he posted pictures of money, lol Move along, sir.
There are many subtle things that happen in a hockey game that look normal to a casual fan but to a hockey player they know exactly what the player was doing, like interference or steering the puck in the net purposefully
I don't know if anyone will see this but, one of my teachers used to teach in Canada and taught Connor McDavid. She said he was putting effort into his work and constantly engaged, and was smart. On the other hand, Josh Ho-Sang, she believed was even more skilled than McDavid, put little to no effort into his school work. He would turn up late to school and hockey practice thinking, I'm going to make the team anyway. Look how different the two players are now. I'm pretty sure he was also the player who injured Zac Bell @alwayshockey. So take from this what you will.
6:41 Well, as an Italian American, I can say there's a lot of superstition on "lucky" vs "unlucky" numbers. I played with jersey #13 as a goalie one game and was unafraid because of the irony in that my last name means LUCKY in Italian so I thought it would "cancel it out." But, yeah, 13 is bad juju for a lot of Italian Americans. It's like asking for it.
Imagine the headache if Lou was the GM in Montreal No 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 12, 16, 18, 19, 23, 29, 33. And 13 is off-limits to him. Would called-up players have to share numbers with someone?
At 1:35 don't use graphs or diagrams if you can't use them properly. The point of this kind of graph is to visualize the numbers and the difference between them, which is why the y-axis must always start at 0. The way it is used here seems as if Vegas has something like 8-fold the amount of blocks compared to St. Louis, even though they have less than 3 times the amount of blocks. Thank you.
I like to zoom in for perspective. And I base it off the min and max. I do understand what you’re saying though, I’ll do both in the future thanks for the feedback 👌🏼
All it would take is for someone like Connor bereaved to REFUSE to wear a visor and just wear a cage or fishbowl and then they may realize how stupid that rule is
The Lamoriello rule is so dumb for his team I would argue to him that having a low number means you are more focused on yourself. If I had to do this, I would try take number 1 and yell: Woo I am number one! to the point he bans that number too from the team or at least get 2 or 3 if I can't get number one and yell: Woo 2nd place! or: Woo 3rd third place! all the time on purpose. Have number 66 is like having Wayne Gretsky's number.
Wearing a full facial protection would only lead to more bad things. Now players do have to worry about their face when going into crowded areas and so on, so they still have some sense of self-preservation instinct left. With a fishbowl, you lose it. You feel more immortal. You tackle opponents with worse technique, you go head first into scrums and all that kind of stuff. This would lead to sticks flying left and right, hitting players in throat and neck areas, and even shots would hit those areas more often. Concussions would increase because why worry about your face? It is protected! But you still hit your head with less worry about consequences.
changing to a fishbowl for safety doesn’t change the rules of the game. no idiot is ab to start playing dirty just bc another players nose is finally covered. there’s plenty of leagues that wear full cages and you don’t hear ab any outlandish behavior
@@Aj-sn1dp The thing is, you do not do it knowingly. You just do it because you have less fear about your own health. There are studies about this and if you just google, you'll find it. Best one was about rugby where addins a soft helmet made players tackle with worse technique and making themselves and opponents more prone to injuries.
13 is the ”Unlucky” Number. For example some plane companies dont have the number 13 seat in their planes. Idk if Lou is superstitious but it might be the cause of him hating the number 13.
Which is a dumb superstition. Although I'm a Miami Dolphins fan and would reflexively choose #13 in any sport due to Dan Marino, so maybe I'm a bit biased there lol.
It's a good thing Lou has never been the GM of the Habs, numbers 1,2,4,7,9,10,12,16,18,19,23 and 29 are retired (33 also but that falls outside of Lou's range) basically he wouldn't have enough numbers to ice a full team loll
If I had to wear the ‘fish bowl’ it’s not the danger to me if someone grabs it, It’s more of a danger to the dickhead who grabs it! He a gonna wish he was a cheerleader in the stands!😂🥊🥊
I hate that the NHL took away 00. That was an awesome goalie number. And nothing against Gretzky, but his 99 should only be retired by the teams he played for.
Not so much a dumb rule as dumb situations the NHL thought needed to be addressed in the rule book. For instance the rules specify what happens if a team decides not to participate in the shootout after OT. Nobody at the rules meeting seems to have asked "do you really think this is going to be a problem?"
I love how Lou Lam has all these superstitions and what not, but since his time as GM has not even made it to the finals... 17-18 - Did not qualify, 18-19 Swept by Hurricanes in 2nd round, 19-20 Lost in Conf finals to Lightning 2-4, 20-21 lost semi finals to lightning again game 7, 21-22 did not qualify, and this season barley hanging onto a wildcard spot.... I'm no NY Islander fan, but he is trying to be like Boston, Rangers, or even Tampa. Yet he has screwed the islanders repeatedly with his horrid trades and so much more. Again Im no islanders fan, but I never liked Lou, nor do I like my GM at times, but still his restrictive behaviors is getting him no where.
Come on Rob, I like your videos but you are slipping. You named this NHL rules and talked about Lou's personal rules. Those aren't NHL rules. Also, you forgot no facial hair on Lou's team
Nicholls? or Micholls? wearing 66 on that McKegg play wearing 69 mmmm that's so sacrilicous lmao lol Pre-season should just let them do the old XFL rules, where they can just choose whatever name and number they want to use lol
I think it's bullshit that it's frowned upon to wear 66 but it's fine to wear 88. Lindros was just as good as any superstar in NHL history. But, because he was a Flyer, the NHL didn't care. More bias against the Flyers.
Can you name a "dumb" rule?
Pick any number between 1 and 25
The goalie interference rule
goalie interference and kicking motions ! (more 'confusing' than 'dumb')
offside review. Takes 5min to make a call. If you can’t decide if the goal is in or not after 3min. The initial call should stay.
Lou doesn't allow players to have facial hair unless it's the playoffs
The dumbest number cult is people getting mad at JJ Watt for wearing #99 on the ice. Dude wore the number his entire NFL career so who cares if he uses his number for beer leauge.
Yeah, if anyone else had done that then maybe I get how it could be seen as taking the piss, but for JJ Watt it makes sense.
I'd like to see someone talk about it to his face
99 is a very specific number in the beer league. Take me for instance, I started to wear the double 9 once I really started to suck. You have to be the worst player on your squad to wear 99… or be JJ Watt.
Literally nobody with half a brain cares about that lol
@@blakebarone1809 What?
It used to be, teams shared a single penalty box. Even after a fight. Two minute penalties were served for the full two minutes. No matter how many goals were scored on the power play. Freezing the puck against the boards got a stoppage in play and a face off. There used to be a time when there was no center ice line. With the center line came into NHL hockey, the pass over two lines was considered as being offside. Teams disapproved of goalie masks, because they felt the mask partially blocked the goalies view of pucks, at their feet. Referees would drop the puck at face offs whenever they felt the time was right. So face offs went off quickly.
jeez so basically the ref could just say “it’s been a while. let’s blow a whistle!”
The Canadiens of the 50's were so good on the power play it forced the NHL to change the rule on serving the full 2 minutes.
IMO the player should have to sit the full 2 minutes if the Power Play team scores teams play 5-on-5 but that player cant be put in till after the 2 minutes are finished
@@princechickenwings2746 Nice idea- but in reality it would be more than a 2 minute penalty- as you would need to wait for a stoppage in play to get him out.
How are you supposed to fight with a fish bowl or mask
There is also a rule that says you can't wear #99, because the number is retired. Apparently the guy was really good at hockey.
Scotty Bowman, the greatest hockey coach of all time, also didn't like the number 13. He refused to stay in any room on the 13th floor of a hotel, and if the hotel's floor numbers skipped 13 to accommodate people like him, he would refuse to stay on the 14th floor, because that was really the 13th floor. And after all of that, he would add the digits of his room number, and if they added to 13, he would request a different room.
Upon hearing how much he hated that number, one reporter asked why one of his players at the time, Slava Kozlov, wore number 13. Bowman just shrugged and said, "It works for him". One can be superstitious, and even extremely superstitious, without being a jerk about it.
The late Gino Odjick, when he first started in the NHL for the Vancouver Canucks, briefly wore number 66 before switching to his familiar 29
Austin matthews most blocked shots by forwards this season just showing how he’s changed his game to be a team player, plays all sides of the ice
Definitely. You love to see it
Like 34!
Auston
Matthews is tied with Nick Bonino at 79.
hes gonna look good in another teams jersey after this year
Lou is also known to have his players be clean shaven. Horvat and Tavares are good examples of this. Tavares instantly grew a beard in Toronto, Horvat had the scruff until he landed on Long Island.
The stuff about Lou isn’t really NHL rules though. These are specific rules for the specific team he GMs. The NHL didn’t forcing Hosang to change his number. Also, Hosang’s number change didn’t start some spiral that saw him eventually play in Russia. Despite his immense talent, he never made a consistent impact in games. He wasn’t worth keeping around. He also “famously” was sent packing by Garth Snow back to either juniors or the AHL after showing up late to training camp.
I hadn't heard anything about Desjardins being forced to change his number. During training camp there are a lot of players and the less established players are often given high numbers (in the Sharks system, can't speak about other teams). After they're established a bit in their career as an NHLer they often change to a lower number.
From a San Jose Hockey Now article with the title "30 Sharks: Why Did Andrew Desjardins Wear No. 69?":
“I actually didn’t pick that number,” admitted the former San Jose Sharks player. “It was given to me as a camp number. I eventually made [the Sharks] but as a young guy, I wasn’t able to change numbers and I played a few years with that number. Then, when I was able to change numbers, I changed it to 10.”
Imagine playing in your first NHL game and the number they hand you is 69 lmao
Barzal wears #13, does that mean Lou hates his star player 😳 Wonder how was Barzy was able to get away with it 🤔
Probably falls under the "star player" and he was wearing it before I was his boss exception. He let jagr and a few other stars rock high numbers on the devils back in the day
@@somedudenamedryan he also made a Kevin Weekes change his number in pretty sure
In the late 70's, during their 4 consecutive Stanley cup winning run, the Habs Big Three Defensemen, Larry Robinson, Guy Lapointe and Serge Savard used to block shots all the time. They were paired with the bottom 3 defensemen that specialized in blocking shots; guys like Brian Engblom, Rod Langway, Bill Nyrop, Rick Chartraw, Pierre Bouchard and others. Defense wins championships and the 70's Habs excelled at it.
the number rule that lou has i disagree that they think about themselves. numbers mean a lot to players
That was his point though. His thought process is that the only thing players should find important is team success. He figured a player caring about their number is selfish
His no facial hair rule is dumb
Dumbest rule is the trapezoid. Why does the league penalize goalies for being too good is beyond me. Martin Brodeur is the reason for this rule because he was amazing at handling the puck…almost like a 3rd defensemen. So, what does the NHL do, invent the trapezoid to penalize amazing goaltenders. Dumbest rule ever!
Other than Lemieux, four other players have worn the No. 66. Yanick Dupre, Milan Novy and Gino Odjick all wore it for a year. This past season, T.J. Brodie of the Calgary Flames wore the number as well.
And technically, anyone can wear 66, as long as they aren't in the Penguins organization, the Pittsburgh Penguins are the only team that has retired 66.
Brodie hasn't been on the Flames since 2020 and he wore #7. What do you mean?
Josh Ho-Sang wore it for a few games that he was with the Isles and Brodie hasn’t been with the Flames for a hot minute 😂
Way back in 1992 when I was 11 I bought a San Jose Sharks jersey large enough to fit when I was in high school. I had personalized it with my name and number 69. I never saw anyone wear that number, so it was perfect. It’s not for the obvious reason I picked that number. I took 6 from Mario Lemieux’s 66 and a 9 from Wayne Gretzky’s 99 and put it together, 69! I was a bigger fan of Mario, so his 6 goes 1st. To this day I still have that jersey and it still fits. My oldest jersey in my collection.
Ho-Sang continued to play for the Islanders after he changed his number to 26. I think Ho-Sang having 2 points in 10 games in his third NHL season had more to do with the Islanders moving on than any scuffle about his jersey number.
Ho-sang's jersey number speaks volume to his questionable character. Yes he did play 10 games but that was also the season Lou took over. Where he would never play in the NHL again
@@RobTalksHockey Reasonable minds can differ on this for sure. Ultimately, after 225 AHL games over 6 years, he was a .533 point-per-game player in the minors. Even after he went to the Marlies and no longer had Lou's rules to worry about, he never cracked the NHL lineup. There are 32 teams in the league and all of them passed on Ho-Sang. I don't think there is anyone who has a worse reputation in the league than Tony DeAngelo (deservedly so), but he has been signed twice because he produces. I am not happy about this, because we need more Ho-Sangs in the league and less DeAngelos. Luckily, he strikes me as the kind of guy that does not need hockey to be happy.
Agreed!
Not a fan of Lou’s mishandling here.
Hockey’s changed a bunch since the Devils dominated with Lou’s rules. Toronto gained their stride post-LL and the NYI are a scoring ‘black hole’, mostly winning when they are from the skills a goalie that was drafted by Garth Snow.
Can’t say I saw any character issues in Ho-Sang beyond not always being committed to defense, and there’s a player or three on just about every roster doing the same thing.
That whole episode with NYI looks “rife with shenanigans” that look worse on a hockey exec/mgmt than a kid in their early 20’s.
@@stolendrones I am not sure what you're referring to by Lou's mishandling here.
"Toronto gained their stride post-LL and the NYI are a scoring ‘black hole’": worth noting that the Leafs have not won a single playoff series since Lou left and the Islanders have gone to two conference finals, in one instance losing 0-1 in game 7 to the eventual cup winners.
"mostly winning when they are from the skills a goalie that was drafted by Garth Snow": Sorokin has not been the starting goaltender until last year, when they did not make the playoffs. LL joined the Islanders in 2018. Before Sorokin, the Islanders certainly did have strong goaltending, but it came from Lehner (signed as a FA by LL, 2018-19 Vezina finalist) and then Varlamov (signed as a FA by LL, backstopped to two conference finals). Since LL, the post-season the success (other than the first round of 20-21) has been backstopped by LL FA signings, not Sorokin.
"Can’t say I saw any character issues in Ho-Sang beyond not always being committed to defense": I am not sure how closely you followed Ho-Sang's years when Garth Snow was still the GM, but he was quoted as saying "It's time to grow up" after sending him home on the first day of training camp.
I am not Lou's biggest fan or greatest defender, but you take the good (two conference final runs) with the bad (losing a talented high-draft-pick) and so far the good has outweighed the bad.
That bardown 100-roll stick is always a treat to see, those guys are always entertaining
Lamoriello sounds like he is stuck in the days of the Original 6 era, where no player wore a jersey number higher than 30. During the first decade of the expansion era, players and goalies started wearing jersey numbers between 31 and 40, like Tony Esposito wearing 35 for Chicago during the 1970s. Then, in 1979, Wayne Gretzky would change the jersey number landscape by wearing the highest number possible, which is 99. Since then, no one has worn number 99 in the NHL, though Connor McDavid, and Kirill Kaprizov, are currently wearing the next highest jersey number with 97 (unless there are full time NHLers currently wearing 98).
Bedard wears #98 in the WHL, maybe next year.
He also do not want the players to have facial hair. He’s so stuck in his generation.
Sergachev wears 98 for Tampa
@@atouze Forgot about him.
Puljujärvi is also 98
This is hilarious
Lou built my Devils to over a decade of success including 3 Stanley cups and 5 East cups
Now the next Devils dynasty(hopefully)
Our Captain is #13 and our star player is #86
The picture of Drew Miller is from when Mark Stones skate came up and sliced his cheek. Stone lost his balance and fell right after the face off. Miller was coming in to the circle to make a play on the puck and was in the absolute wrong place at the wrong time. Total freak accident. His broken jaw was a different incident.
I remember watching that game, made me squirm, glad he didn’t lose an eye
shows how little work this guy did to make the video
I mean everyone knows 13 is allegedly a bad luck number so I can see why Lou didn’t like the number 13. There are buildings that either skip the 13th floor and go 12 14 15 or just make the 13th floor like a storage floor. So I get it. It’s common to think that of that number
And then there's asshole like me just born of a friday the 13th. Lou would probably trade me immediately if I were a player and on any team he started working for.
11 must be the lucky number
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Ironically, that's why I wore the number. Our team's had the numbers already on jerseys from 1 -20, and no one wanted to wear 13...so being the one that always ha to be different, I did. lol
I modded my own fishbowl so that there's no need for a chin-cup. It just sits perfectly into the J-clips and is held in place by the straps I sewed onto the sides instead of having it come from the bottom. I used to wear a half-shield until I lost enough teeth playing beer league to grow tired of it and just switched. But, the chin-cup got in the way of my vision. I was losing pucks in my feet where I hadn't before. So, I did something about it. And, I can say with 100% confidence that it's a better and safer design that anything out there. It literally feels like I'm wearing a half-shield but with the protection of a full visor. I even sparked 2 other players on my team to do the same thing. And, it's just better. There should be no rule about wearing a full visor. However, if you choose to wear one, and you get into a fight without first taking it off, you should get an extra penalty.
Awesome videos man. Thanks for the hard work! And absolutely loved the habs video !!
Just a throwback to when Jack Eichel wasn't allowed to pick the surgery he wanted 🏒
Lou logic is so utterly idiotic. Is he gonna pay everyone equally too?
Its about the team....really? LOU MY LINEMATE IS MAKING 5 MILLION MORE THAN ME AND I CANT WEAR NUMBER 90?
This is awesome, I'm recovering in the hospital from surgery and it's an amazing distraction.
Get well! I appreciate you
@@RobTalksHockey I appreciate you, thank you so much for the kind words!
What a strange way to pronounce Canadien. You attempted a French “en” but tacked it onto an Anglo pronunciation. What I’m used to here in Canada is either French or English but not a hybrid.
Dan Girardi with the puck under his visor is hilarious every time I see it lol
The reason for fish bowls not being aloud is, they are dangerous in scrums. They're a target for grabbing. And if someone's falling, they're going for the mask, pulling the other person down head first
That's fair, but it's also an easy fix. New rule you can't grab someone's cage
@@RobTalksHockey The NHL has a rule against players punching each other in the face too, which is why it virtually never happens anymore.
In all seriousness though, some things you can't fix with a rule because during the pace and emotion of gameplay, guys will do it regardless. Especially in matters of safety, it's much better to solve it with equipment if possible, rather than try to mitigate the damage with penalty minutes or suspensions.
Fishbowls are easier to grab??
I guess that's a stance to have
Yeh you could hurt someone’s ears
Then have them wear the plastic fishbowl from these ___ companies only that make the full fishbowl with only micro airholes. NCAA is talking about forcing the cages to go away and use only the True Fishbowls due to cage grabbing. If everyone has a mandatory full fishbowl they do not get hurt as easy.
i get why they put the rule in, i was there before/when they did it. but the shooting the puck over glass = automatic penalty is just stupid these days. no one does it on purpose anymore so its just a dumb (and one of the few) penalties the refs HAVE to call..
Keep the rule - but lower the glass on the sides of the rinks. Nothing more boring than guys whipping pucks down the ice by using the 10 foot high side glass. Low glass will allow the defender to possibly stop the puck and keep the pressure on.
I love the full shield, which is mandatory in NCAA hockey, because it prevents gory facial injuries that are so easily avoidable. But please don't call it a fishbowl, that is such an annoying term for it.
Lou is not someone i would work hard for, if he was my boss. In fact, i would call in sick whenever i could and use the time to apply for other jobs. His style is from the past.
Lou must have hated walking past legends row and just looking up at the Scotiabank arena and seeing the 13 hanging there. Taunting him.
Regarding the Ho-Sang stuff, that was one of the dumbest controversies out there. Lemieux never played for the Islanders. Gretzky wore #9 for Gordie Howe until someone on the Oilers already had it. Nobody ever saw that as disrespect from him (or anyone else who wore #9 for the same reason)
Similarly, Lebron has worn #23 without controversy.
People are going to hate on this, but I can't help but feel that Ho-Sang's race played a factor into the controversy of him choosing that number. As mentioned, the Brodie thing didn't catch nearly the attention. "Attitude" is an oft-cited reason as to why a non-white player didn't mix in well with the team. It's a pretty suspicious word.
Brodie was likely assigned #66... as for Ho-Sang, his older Instagram posts show what kinda guy he is. Posting pics of random girls asses with a sexual caption... that's not NHL Player Behavior. Same with Evander Kane posting pics of himself with money stacks. These aren't Rock Stars or Rappers. They are NHL Players. Also #9, #23 are common numbers. We are talking about #66. Mario Lemieux who was quite possibly, better than Gretzky. It's not a coincidence that almost all NHL Players do not wear that number.
.... i guess hockey is different than other sports. Guaranteed when Sid retires no one even touches #87 as well as #97 when McDavid retires.
@@AlphaZaius67 Wtf? Why is Evander Kane in this conversation? You trying to prove this isn't racism by mentioning another black guy with attitude problems? And you picked the dumbest things about Evander Kane to nit pick. Dude is accused of far worse, actually criminal behavior. And you're upset that he posted pictures of money, lol
Move along, sir.
I agree with you Lou, the crest on the front is more important than the number on the back, so I will wear whatever number I want
Lou wouldn’t let Bedard wear 98 he’d prob make him wear 28
Lou only wanting players to wear numbers 1-30, while working for a team that has 6 of those numbers retired. 🤷♂
When I think #13, I think of Pavel Datsyuk
Hell yeah. Or Slava Kozlov. 👍
I don’t know much about hockey but I do know that once you get a team to game 7 that mentality is different .
69 is a beer league number
Can’t believe nobody mentioned Doug Glatt wearing #69.
There are many subtle things that happen in a hockey game that look normal to a casual fan but to a hockey player they know exactly what the player was doing, like interference or steering the puck in the net purposefully
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought of Nathan Fielder when I saw the cover pic
2:54 * Drew Miller took a skate to the face and played 82 games that season. 💪
I don't know if anyone will see this but, one of my teachers used to teach in Canada and taught Connor McDavid. She said he was putting effort into his work and constantly engaged, and was smart. On the other hand, Josh Ho-Sang, she believed was even more skilled than McDavid, put little to no effort into his school work. He would turn up late to school and hockey practice thinking, I'm going to make the team anyway. Look how different the two players are now. I'm pretty sure he was also the player who injured Zac Bell @alwayshockey. So take from this what you will.
6:41 Well, as an Italian American, I can say there's a lot of superstition on "lucky" vs "unlucky" numbers. I played with jersey #13 as a goalie one game and was unafraid because of the irony in that my last name means LUCKY in Italian so I thought it would "cancel it out." But, yeah, 13 is bad juju for a lot of Italian Americans. It's like asking for it.
how do you feel about 17 ?
@@geoffroi-le-Hook as a jersey number it's fine
Imagine the headache if Lou was the GM in Montreal
No 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 12, 16, 18, 19, 23, 29, 33. And 13 is off-limits to him. Would called-up players have to share numbers with someone?
That’s why he won’t go there 😂
At 1:35 don't use graphs or diagrams if you can't use them properly. The point of this kind of graph is to visualize the numbers and the difference between them, which is why the y-axis must always start at 0. The way it is used here seems as if Vegas has something like 8-fold the amount of blocks compared to St. Louis, even though they have less than 3 times the amount of blocks.
Thank you.
I like to zoom in for perspective. And I base it off the min and max. I do understand what you’re saying though, I’ll do both in the future thanks for the feedback 👌🏼
I love how the offensive defenseman clips were Cale Makar
All it would take is for someone like Connor bereaved to REFUSE to wear a visor and just wear a cage or fishbowl and then they may realize how stupid that rule is
Yanick Dupre wore No. 66 while with the Flyers in 1991. Although, this was while Lemieux was still playing. Dupre sadly died at age 24 from lukemia.
Coincidence or Karma?.. and I'm not saying because of Lemieux. He had his share of Health Issues. I think 66 is cursed.
Love the 007 goldeneye soundtrack in the backround😂
loooooool the nathan fielder reference
;)
Because the NHL cares a lot about revenue they should allow #69 for increased jersey sales
This alone should allow for no more blackouts.
Except stars blackout jerseys
The Lamoriello rule is so dumb for his team I would argue to him that having a low number means you are more focused on yourself. If I had to do this, I would try take number 1 and yell: Woo I am number one! to the point he bans that number too from the team or at least get 2 or 3 if I can't get number one and yell: Woo 2nd place! or: Woo 3rd third place! all the time on purpose. Have number 66 is like having Wayne Gretsky's number.
your double deflection made me wonder if there was ever a triple deflection. If so, that would mean the initial shooter wouldnt get an assist.
Gino Odjick wore number 66 in his first game in 1991.
Lou also does not allow facial hair on any of his players EXECPT in the Playoffs
Wearing a full facial protection would only lead to more bad things.
Now players do have to worry about their face when going into crowded areas and so on, so they still have some sense of self-preservation instinct left. With a fishbowl, you lose it. You feel more immortal. You tackle opponents with worse technique, you go head first into scrums and all that kind of stuff. This would lead to sticks flying left and right, hitting players in throat and neck areas, and even shots would hit those areas more often. Concussions would increase because why worry about your face? It is protected! But you still hit your head with less worry about consequences.
Yeah for sure, I get that point. But it's also an assumption that would have to be experimented with. Implementing new rules would be the start
changing to a fishbowl for safety doesn’t change the rules of the game. no idiot is ab to start playing dirty just bc another players nose is finally covered. there’s plenty of leagues that wear full cages and you don’t hear ab any outlandish behavior
@@Aj-sn1dp But they're not the NHL.
@@Aj-sn1dp The thing is, you do not do it knowingly. You just do it because you have less fear about your own health. There are studies about this and if you just google, you'll find it. Best one was about rugby where addins a soft helmet made players tackle with worse technique and making themselves and opponents more prone to injuries.
13 is the ”Unlucky” Number. For example some plane companies dont have the number 13 seat in their planes. Idk if Lou is superstitious but it might be the cause of him hating the number 13.
Which is a dumb superstition. Although I'm a Miami Dolphins fan and would reflexively choose #13 in any sport due to Dan Marino, so maybe I'm a bit biased there lol.
He is, while he was GM of the DEVILS, no one wore 13; Nico Hischier was the first to wear it.
1:06 the Moe Greene Special of hockey (which is when a puck is shot at the eye)
Love the 007 Goldeneye background music
Worst rule is the trapezoid
This rule could be dropped next year and nobody would really notice it.
Shoresy wore 69
So did Glatt.
@@jonmendelson1104 shoresys better
Kinda funny how in the NBA so many guys have worn 23 because of Jordan and nobody has an issue with it, but in the NHL that is somehow disrespectful.
2:05 elite Danny Dekeyser goal
That's about the only time you're gonna see "elite" and "Danny DeKeyser" mentioned in the same sentence.
1:53 those top 3 forwards were not the forwards I would have had in mind for blocked shots lol
Bonino yes Pettersson and Matthews nope
Agreed lol
How bout the garbage trapezoid rule that serves only to handicap goalies
I just have to give a mention to the Goldeneye N64 music in the background
It's a good thing Lou has never been the GM of the Habs, numbers 1,2,4,7,9,10,12,16,18,19,23 and 29 are retired (33 also but that falls outside of Lou's range) basically he wouldn't have enough numbers to ice a full team loll
First the DMV, now the NHL? Why's everyone hate the #69 :(
You get a like simply because you mentioned the goat of hockey (tj brodie)
1:50 put that man in net lmao
If I had to wear the ‘fish bowl’ it’s not the danger to me if someone grabs it, It’s more of a danger to the dickhead who grabs it! He a gonna wish he was a cheerleader in the stands!😂🥊🥊
I hate that the NHL took away 00. That was an awesome goalie number. And nothing against Gretzky, but his 99 should only be retired by the teams he played for.
Not so much a dumb rule as dumb situations the NHL thought needed to be addressed in the rule book. For instance the rules specify what happens if a team decides not to participate in the shootout after OT. Nobody at the rules meeting seems to have asked "do you really think this is going to be a problem?"
From the words of the priest on MASH, "69 is divine!"
I wanna see Jim Nill bring Ho-Sang to Dallas
I love how Lou Lam has all these superstitions and what not, but since his time as GM has not even made it to the finals... 17-18 - Did not qualify, 18-19 Swept by Hurricanes in 2nd round, 19-20 Lost in Conf finals to Lightning 2-4, 20-21 lost semi finals to lightning again game 7, 21-22 did not qualify, and this season barley hanging onto a wildcard spot.... I'm no NY Islander fan, but he is trying to be like Boston, Rangers, or even Tampa. Yet he has screwed the islanders repeatedly with his horrid trades and so much more.
Again Im no islanders fan, but I never liked Lou, nor do I like my GM at times, but still his restrictive behaviors is getting him no where.
1:27 this chart is not very good. Why is the origin 500 and not 0?
Min and max
But it makes the bar for 600 blocked shots less than a tenth of the height of the bar for 1400
7:24 looks like a third player in NHL history was wearing number 66...
number rules in general are just stupid
Voice still bad, content still good. Here's a view!
lmao
What song is the sound bed from 1:02 to 1:59
Golden eye 🔥
Drew Miller with the Nik Lidstrom visor!
Come on Rob, I like your videos but you are slipping. You named this NHL rules and talked about Lou's personal rules. Those aren't NHL rules. Also, you forgot no facial hair on Lou's team
I never got why player all of the sudden go to the bench if there helmet gets taken off.... THANKS TOREY KRUG!!!!
Its pretty rich for lamouirello to claim not thinking about the back of the jersey when he goes ballistic for the number on the back of the jersey
Nicholls? or Micholls? wearing 66 on that McKegg play wearing 69 mmmm that's so sacrilicous lmao
lol Pre-season should just let them do the old XFL rules, where they can just choose whatever name and number they want to use lol
Goalie crossing center line is pretty dumb, should be allowed. I miss goalie fights, and want another Roy skating it up ice again
"The number of arguably the greatest NHL player ever..."
Wayne Gretzky: Am I a joke to you?
Gretzky/Lemieux = tomato/toemahto
Take the number 69, it'll be hilarious!
Maybe if Ho-Sang knew how to set his alarm clock maybe he’d still be in the league…….
6:46 Its the unlucky number
Great video rob
I think it's bullshit that it's frowned upon to wear 66 but it's fine to wear 88. Lindros was just as good as any superstar in NHL history. But, because he was a Flyer, the NHL didn't care. More bias against the Flyers.
How does Ho-Sang never play again because of a number? No team wanted him? Really?
He was signed to a PTO with the Leafs last season but didn't make the team, that's pretty much the last bit of NHL action he got
For someone who says they should worry about the number, he sure worries about the numbers a lot
My Jersey number is 69. Lol. 🤣