As Merson said, if he was trying to pass it to where Oliver was pointing, then he shouldn't be a footballer. Also, what about Bernardo delaying the restart, which eventually led to the Arsenal 1st goal?
Trossard second yellow was not for a foul on Bernardo, mate. It was for allegedly kicking the ball away. The man was in mid motion making a pass to Martinelli for a counterattack. Did you expect him to spawn himself one second after the whistle?
Yeah I know. But the ref had just finished blowing for that foul when Trossard smashed the ball 40 yards away. Sorry, 'allegedly' smashed the ball 40 yards away!
@@keenangan6047 All these people that mention charges need to go look them up and educate themselves about Law. Even as a City Fan since a long long time and different divisions up and down a Real fan, not a mercenary fan or a Chelsea fan complaining about City. I did Law for 20 years but not Corporate/ business. But even from my bias opinion it's obvious you have to look at some things. eg , how the owners who also own Etihad Airline can in theory inflate sponsorship £££. So I'm not saying nothing is wrong. BUT anyone that's read the charges knows a lot are duplicates? Repeated as the years went by. Also stupid charges like " Failure to cooperate with the Premier league. Lol 😂 that's a charge. That's like getting another charge for not going guilty OR doing a " NO Comment ". U see reason UEFA got thrown out was because it wasn't" impartial and fair", they looked at the case, bought charges,tried them, found them guilty and imposed punishment. Hardly a fair and democratic process. Anyway Im saying there are things to look at but 😭 many are void. But every club loves to jump on the guilty bandwagon. I doubt in the USA this would happen as I believe the spark was an illegal computer hack by a German paper. In the USA that would be inadmissible... But you never find experts in these posts just sheep who follow the popular narrative 🤔🤔🤔✌️
I have so much respect for Mark Halsey, so I believe him when he talks about a bit of tolerance. I remember he once blew the whistle for a foul on Andy Cole (for Blakburn,or City, can't remember), and changed his mind after seeing Cole's body language/expression; it was more of a player that felt he'd let himself down, as opposed to one that felt he'd been fouled and deserved a penalty...and that was before VAR. imagine how good he'd have been with VAR!
@@TheSunSport he didn't blast it down the pitch. he was in mid swing when the whistle went . yeh he could have stopped himself but he certainly didn't "blast it down the pitch" your man there said 30 to 40 yards then un next breath he said 50 - 60 yards. it went across the pitch not down. 50 to 60 would have been in row z in the stands. doku one was more a blatant attempt to delay the restart. but even that wasn't enough for a booking in my books. but if u give one u have to give the other. referees just ruining games as always. need to somehow entice ex players to do the job. so much money now in football but still all the pound shop refs
Its funny that in this very video you have a freeze frame of the moment Michael Oliver is blowing his whistle with his left hand out and ahead of him is Trossard in mid kick. Yet they expect Trossard to stop instantly the millisecond the whistle went.
@@TheSunSport Let's say he heard it, who is to say it he didn't think it was the half time whistle? Either way Sky calculated the amount of time from kick to whistle as 0.88 seconds. If you think that it a sensible amount of reaction time, and not a very harsh amount considering the occasion and situation, then lots of respect to your values and reaction times.
@@TheSunSport I suppose you can read his mind then? Or you know the exact noise levels at the time the whistle went maybe? The evidence of the situation is there to see on your own video. Oliver blows the whistle while Trossard is in mid kick of the ball. Players are not robots that turn off the millisecond they hear a whistle. They are only human and some common sense can be used. Maybe he did hear it maybe he was already committed to following though on the kick but to be sent off for an action that is under a second after the whistle is excessively harsh.
HOW is Walker NOT in position, when he is perfectly alined with the other two City defenders, and HOW is it detrimental to the goal, when the picture shows NINE City players in the penalty area BEFORE Martinelli passes the ball to Calafiori???!!! Even Michael Oliver is there, for Christ sake, and nearly obstructs Calafiori and his shot.
No one wants Haaland banned, but it was a yellow card offence. God, Dele Alli got a post match ban and a fine for giving the finger as a joke to Walker, so there are loads of precedent.
Can see why he's a former referee, just as bad as the rest of them. How can you say he's a good referee when he misses a blatant pull back? Walker was allowed to rejoin the back 4, how much more time does he need? Less than 1 second between the whistle and Trossard kicking the ball, how is he supposed to pull out of his kicking stride? No mention of Reuben elbowing Havertz or Halland's 2 incidents on Partey and Gabriel, and then the ball throw. How about 15+ minutes of extra time what a joke.
Mark clearly says Michael Oliver should have waited until Walker was back in position... Also, these are Premier League footballers with lightning fast reaction times. You cannot honestly tell me Trossard's brain could not process the sound of a whistle being blown less than five metres away from him and then stop himself whacking the ball in the air like Peter Kay in that John Smith's advert.
@TheSunSport Did you feel the same when Gundogan took the free kick without letting Raya get into position? Oh I forgot other teams need man City's permission to restart the game. And if their reaction times are so quick then why didn't Walker react fast enough? Oh that's right one set of rules for you and one set for everyone else.
@@AC_830 I'm not expecting the players to wait for their opponents to be ready, but the referee should let a player get back into position before play restarts when the referee is the reason he is out of position in the first place.
No. Trossard got a second yellow card for preventing the restart of the match, not for kicking the ball away. However, DID he actually prevdnt the game from continuing? Probably NOT as there was a City player on the floor needing treatment potentially and HE was preventing the taking of the free kick by lying on the ground wherenit would need to be taken. No, Doku should have been carded for delayjng the restart of the match. Oliver invited him to pass the ball back to the Arsenal player waiting to restart the game. He deliberately kicked it away from him so that another player had to go and fetch it to take it from the correct place.
He's just a little boy,with no manners,angry that GABRIEL kept blocking him,so he couldn't get past to score another goal,thus wiping that smug smile from his stupid face,and couldn't handle it!
Are the refs supposed to manage the situation or apply the letter of the law? Rice incident was letter of the law although it was applied incorrectly. With other similar incidents, eg Doku, the situation was managed. Which is it, then? PGMOL didn't say anything about managing the situation, they stated that the letter of the law was going to be applied (only when it's Arsenal, it seems)
That guys a joke ,using the ball as a weapon ,what Zombie balls should be banned ,every game carrys one for protection ,ref's should have the power to stop and search get real mate handbags .
"violent conduct", "ball as a weapon", "throwing a punch" etc. don't be so fkn ridiculous. it was funny and in jest and i laughed. and no-one died, or was knocked out unconscious, or needed stitches, or even fell to the ground. grow some cojones.
If taking your shirt off for celebrating is seen as disrespectful and a yellow.card offence then. Throwing a ball at someone's head gloating unprofessionally that should be a yellow as well at least.
If that's the standard, then who gets hurt or loses anything if a restart is delayed? The referee can just add the time back on. That's cost Arsenal 4 points and handed 115FC 1, so that's a 5 point swing against Arsenal, and we're not 20% of the way through the season.
Your either taking the piss or seriously deluded or even have some sort of challenging issue. 😂😂😂 ," serious damage " ??? Do you eat with plastic utensils and cups and is your home wrapped in foam 😂.. He bounced the ball off his head with zero power ,a playful joke. The kinda thing Parents do to their kids all the time, but sorry I dunno why your about the only one who didn't see it for what it was. In that case OMG I'm amazed they didn't have the Air ambulance starting up in case 😂😂😂... Obviously a City Hater, so many turning Green. It was a fair bit testy game, and AFC defended well and the Goal keeper was outstanding. 🤔🌚✌️
@msimms-lp5qw I don't know, but what would've been the reaction of the general football loving public...if...if it was an Arsenal player doing exactly what Halaand did?
He won't be banned, everyone knows there is no justice in this leauge..
Doku kicked the ball back into Arsenal's half when in fact the free kick was in city's half., and that's where it was taken from.
As Merson said, if he was trying to pass it to where Oliver was pointing, then he shouldn't be a footballer. Also, what about Bernardo delaying the restart, which eventually led to the Arsenal 1st goal?
He should be banned 6 games for that.
Trossard second yellow was not for a foul on Bernardo, mate. It was for allegedly kicking the ball away. The man was in mid motion making a pass to Martinelli for a counterattack. Did you expect him to spawn himself one second after the whistle?
Oh piss off, the whistle blew a full 3 seconds before he booted it skyward
If that was a pass to martinelli then trossard needs to turn up early for training
Fast & furious game. The furious part is probably on the ref part - a yellow & red for kicking the ball away...
Yeah I know. But the ref had just finished blowing for that foul when Trossard smashed the ball 40 yards away. Sorry, 'allegedly' smashed the ball 40 yards away!
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Sky calculated the amount of time. It was 0.88 seconds. Stop lying.
But he won’t be, he plays for City and not Arsenal.
Here after he did 😂 u little loser
one of the worst referees ever
We all know nothing will happen cause 115 charges
@@keenangan6047 All these people that mention charges need to go look them up and educate themselves about Law.
Even as a City Fan since a long long time and different divisions up and down a Real fan, not a mercenary fan or a Chelsea fan complaining about City.
I did Law for 20 years but not Corporate/ business.
But even from my bias opinion it's obvious you have to look at some things.
eg , how the owners who also own Etihad Airline can in theory inflate sponsorship £££.
So I'm not saying nothing is wrong.
BUT anyone that's read the charges knows a lot are duplicates? Repeated as the years went by.
Also stupid charges like " Failure to cooperate with the Premier league. Lol 😂 that's a charge.
That's like getting another charge for not going guilty OR doing a " NO Comment ".
U see reason UEFA got thrown out was because it wasn't" impartial and fair", they looked at the case, bought charges,tried them, found them guilty and imposed punishment.
Hardly a fair and democratic process.
Anyway Im saying there are things to look at but 😭 many are void.
But every club loves to jump on the guilty bandwagon.
I doubt in the USA this would happen as I believe the spark was an illegal computer hack by a German paper.
In the USA that would be inadmissible...
But you never find experts in these posts just sheep who follow the popular narrative 🤔🤔🤔✌️
HaalandHaaland won't be banned. He plays for Citeh!
I have so much respect for Mark Halsey, so I believe him when he talks about a bit of tolerance. I remember he once blew the whistle for a foul on Andy Cole (for Blakburn,or City, can't remember), and changed his mind after seeing Cole's body language/expression; it was more of a player that felt he'd let himself down, as opposed to one that felt he'd been fouled and deserved a penalty...and that was before VAR. imagine how good he'd have been with VAR!
kicked 30 40 yards? more like 5 yards and a split second after the whistle
Come on, it really was not five yards was it. There's no way he didn't hear the whistle and have enough time to not blast the ball down the pitch.
@@TheSunSport he didn't blast it down the pitch. he was in mid swing when the whistle went . yeh he could have stopped himself but he certainly didn't "blast it down the pitch"
your man there said 30 to 40 yards then un next breath he said 50 - 60 yards. it went across the pitch not down. 50 to 60 would have been in row z in the stands.
doku one was more a blatant attempt to delay the restart. but even that wasn't enough for a booking in my books. but if u give one u have to give the other.
referees just ruining games as always. need to somehow entice ex players to do the job. so much money now in football but still all the pound shop refs
used the ball as a weapon😂😂😂😂
THAT MATCH WAS ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING.🤯.
The game was fine, especially 1st half! Ref was awful..
@@jonfor59 Why was the ref awful?
Used the ball as a weapon😂😂😂meanwhile keepers deflect shots with their face
Its funny that in this very video you have a freeze frame of the moment Michael Oliver is blowing his whistle with his left hand out and ahead of him is Trossard in mid kick. Yet they expect Trossard to stop instantly the millisecond the whistle went.
Come on, there's no way Trossard didn't hear the whistle in plenty of time before he smashed the ball up in the air to nobody!
@@TheSunSport Let's say he heard it, who is to say it he didn't think it was the half time whistle? Either way Sky calculated the amount of time from kick to whistle as 0.88 seconds. If you think that it a sensible amount of reaction time, and not a very harsh amount considering the occasion and situation, then lots of respect to your values and reaction times.
@@TheSunSport I suppose you can read his mind then? Or you know the exact noise levels at the time the whistle went maybe? The evidence of the situation is there to see on your own video. Oliver blows the whistle while Trossard is in mid kick of the ball. Players are not robots that turn off the millisecond they hear a whistle. They are only human and some common sense can be used. Maybe he did hear it maybe he was already committed to following though on the kick but to be sent off for an action that is under a second after the whistle is excessively harsh.
HOW is Walker NOT in position, when he is perfectly alined with the other two City defenders, and HOW is it detrimental to the goal, when the picture shows NINE City players in the penalty area BEFORE Martinelli passes the ball to Calafiori???!!! Even Michael Oliver is there, for Christ sake, and nearly obstructs Calafiori and his shot.
No one wants Haaland banned, but it was a yellow card offence. God, Dele Alli got a post match ban and a fine for giving the finger as a joke to Walker, so there are loads of precedent.
He was on a yellow already ..
Can see why he's a former referee, just as bad as the rest of them. How can you say he's a good referee when he misses a blatant pull back? Walker was allowed to rejoin the back 4, how much more time does he need? Less than 1 second between the whistle and Trossard kicking the ball, how is he supposed to pull out of his kicking stride? No mention of Reuben elbowing Havertz or Halland's 2 incidents on Partey and Gabriel, and then the ball throw. How about 15+ minutes of extra time what a joke.
Mark clearly says Michael Oliver should have waited until Walker was back in position... Also, these are Premier League footballers with lightning fast reaction times. You cannot honestly tell me Trossard's brain could not process the sound of a whistle being blown less than five metres away from him and then stop himself whacking the ball in the air like Peter Kay in that John Smith's advert.
@TheSunSport Did you feel the same when Gundogan took the free kick without letting Raya get into position? Oh I forgot other teams need man City's permission to restart the game. And if their reaction times are so quick then why didn't Walker react fast enough? Oh that's right one set of rules for you and one set for everyone else.
@@AC_830 I'm not expecting the players to wait for their opponents to be ready, but the referee should let a player get back into position before play restarts when the referee is the reason he is out of position in the first place.
No. Trossard got a second yellow card for preventing the restart of the match, not for kicking the ball away. However, DID he actually prevdnt the game from continuing? Probably NOT as there was a City player on the floor needing treatment potentially and HE was preventing the taking of the free kick by lying on the ground wherenit would need to be taken.
No, Doku should have been carded for delayjng the restart of the match. Oliver invited him to pass the ball back to the Arsenal player waiting to restart the game. He deliberately kicked it away from him so that another player had to go and fetch it to take it from the correct place.
Haaland forgot football no violence philosophy. Why?
He's just a little boy,with no manners,angry that GABRIEL kept blocking him,so he couldn't get past to score another goal,thus wiping that smug smile from his stupid face,and couldn't handle it!
I look at it this way. Just another header won by Gabriel.
Forget the goalkeepers union, the referee union is the worst
Jesus christ, deadly weapons those football's......I've taken a size 5 full on in the face as a kid, now that stings.
Are the refs supposed to manage the situation or apply the letter of the law? Rice incident was letter of the law although it was applied incorrectly. With other similar incidents, eg Doku, the situation was managed. Which is it, then? PGMOL didn't say anything about managing the situation, they stated that the letter of the law was going to be applied (only when it's Arsenal, it seems)
Clowns protecting each other. How about we replace referees with robots?
throwing the ball was attempted murder.
meanwhile poor trosspot gets hung on some trumped up charge.
That guys a joke ,using the ball as a weapon ,what Zombie balls should be banned ,every game carrys one for protection ,ref's should have the power to stop and search get real mate handbags .
He should be punished, as should City
City / Arsenal game was well reffereed??? Are you shitting me??? 😡😡😡
Once you allow this kind of behavior, than others can do it also in future. Simple as that.
Oliver is the worst referee in the league.
Haarland should go back to waiting under the bridge for the three billy goats gruff
😂
Banned for throwing a ball 😂😂😂
The anchor is bias even in the way he asked the questions.
It's an unethical and unprofessional conduct against a fellow professional. Probably need personal coaching between the ears...
It’s all about me Taylor
Liverpool fc with win the league.😅😅😅
Come on,hardly touched him.
Let me guess he an Assnaa fan 😂
He just said QPR you melt
"violent conduct", "ball as a weapon", "throwing a punch" etc. don't be so fkn ridiculous. it was funny and in jest and i laughed. and no-one died, or was knocked out unconscious, or needed stitches, or even fell to the ground. grow some cojones.
Right, whole thing is pathetic , players head the ball all the time
If taking your shirt off for celebrating is seen as disrespectful and a yellow.card offence then. Throwing a ball at someone's head gloating unprofessionally that should be a yellow as well at least.
You don't need to have a direct contact in serious foul play , the attempt or intention alone could warrant a red. That's the law of the game
If that's the standard, then who gets hurt or loses anything if a restart is delayed? The referee can just add the time back on. That's cost Arsenal 4 points and handed 115FC 1, so that's a 5 point swing against Arsenal, and we're not 20% of the way through the season.
@@msimms-lp5qw It's not the same though is it...
Arsenal haters
No he did not use the ball as a weapon. There was no malice in it.
The ball being thrown at the back of the head of Gabriel by big baby Hahahalaand could've caused srious head injury!! 😮
Your either taking the piss or seriously deluded or even have some sort of challenging issue.
😂😂😂 ," serious damage " ??? Do you eat with plastic utensils and cups and is your home wrapped in foam 😂..
He bounced the ball off his head with zero power ,a playful joke.
The kinda thing Parents do to their kids all the time, but sorry I dunno why your about the only one who didn't see it for what it was.
In that case OMG I'm amazed they didn't have the Air ambulance starting up in case 😂😂😂...
Obviously a City Hater, so many turning Green.
It was a fair bit testy game, and AFC defended well and the Goal keeper was outstanding. 🤔🌚✌️
So does that mean we should ban heading the ball?
@@msimms-lp5qw 👆 I meant back of the head...and was a joke🤔
@@maz727 OK. But many believe he should be punished
@msimms-lp5qw I don't know, but what would've been the reaction of the general football loving public...if...if it was an Arsenal player doing exactly what Halaand did?