How to burn-in correctly your new speakers & headphones
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2019
- Sometimes when we buy new gear it just sounds awful! In this video we learn how to obtain the maximum out of our new set of speakers or headphones when they are brand new. The art of burning-in or braking-in new pieces of hi-fi gear!
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Music: Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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BURN-IN INSTRUCTIONS (Attention! Read carefully!):
- Download the high resolution ana[dia]log bur-in recipe file here:
u.pcloud.link/publink/show?co...
- Play the file at a LOW VOLUME. High volumes may damage your gear and /or your ears (for example: play it at 2 out of 10).
- Playback the file in loop for 40 hrs or during the night (e.g. 7 hrs).
- Best performance is reached after 100hrs of low volume playback
- You can start using the speakers/headphones immediately or between each night treatment. No problem. The wow effect will decrease that way.
- Remember to set your computer or player to high resolution audio mode (that is 192Khz / 16 bits).
Great channel! Love your content and especially your passion about Hifi audio!
After a week of listening to music and burn in now my headphones sound amazing!
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Thank you, my friend! As a speaker manufacturer, I dealt with this all the time.
U R SOOOO RIGHT !
It works in 99.9% of the cases.
Exactly, it dosn't work on some special speakers, but in case of doubt, do it!!!
It's free...
Personnally, i made my speakers units with professionnal over dimmentionned speakers, i use a classical burn-in method, and it tooks 10 month!!!
In the end, i made a real burn in with car audio burning test cause it maybe could take 1 year more!!!
My burn in amp smells like barbecue after that, and i have to invert 1 speaker's phase to dont brak the walls of my appartment, but the definitive amp just have the right song now...
Enjoy your music guys!
Thank you! I'd never heard of this before. As always with your videos, so clear and informative.
There are two kinds of burn-in: the first is what you described, using some devices for the first time allows them to stretch and sound more open and dynamic, very true at least on what has moving parts, headphones, speakers, probably microphones and even turntable cartridges. I am a little skeptical on burning in cables and what has no moving parts, but I have to admit I felt a noticeable improvement on some tubes, it takes a lot longer than headphones or speakers anyway! Then there is the second kind of burn in, the one that happens in your brain! When you buy something that have a different sound signature than what you are used to your brain needs to have some time before getting used to the new sound presentation before you can fully appreciate it. The same is true for more or less all sensory experiences, think about changing a cheap light bulb that has yellow light with something that have a wider emission spectrum, you'll find it strange at first, but then you may start to appreciate a more accurate color reproduction. Or if you are used to bottled tea and you start drinking better quality tea that you prepare by your own starting from leaves!
I think that I agree with this...it does make sense!
for audio gear like analog cables there's no real burn-in, but the sound can change a little if you use it in one session for a while, that's called heat-up, and that's the equall to normal burn-in for every other type of audio gear, but heating-up those cables it's something that happens every time you use it
Just bought me a pair of Adam Audio T5V's. I've never burned speakers in before, but they recommend it. Very much appreciate the info and the audio file.
Thank you.
Very useful, thank you.
It works! I've noticed the difference on my headphones immediately!
Glad to hear that and thanks for your feedback!
ITS ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!! I bought a pair of "studio monitor" headphones a couple months ago, and the sound wasn't anywhere near what I expected! I cut back the Bass on my receiver to get the high frequencies the way I like it! Six weeks later, the sound was flat, so I put the Bass back to its original position! And BAM!! , Now they sound better than what I expected! I don't think it's done though, because every week it seems to get better and better! But now, it sounds a helluva lot better!
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Nice! And just in time! My new Elacs came in last week, and I wanted to burn them in, although they sound good, I know they will do better. I didn´t know about this way of doing it, thank for the file, man! I actually thought about playing dub or reggea for extended periods of time, to get the bass membrane exercise :). Cheers!
Glad this is of help!
@@anadialog It's just 1hour 30 min playback audio so y 2gb file...is it kinda high quality or special...?
Yes I can confirm burn in works the mid range got a lot more relaxed sharper and a lot better
Thanks for your feedback!
@@anadialog now I'm off to enjoying my new headphones!
I use actual music from different genre to burn in, but you are right, burn in is important to loosen up the drivers. For headphones, I have used an older five disc player for this purpose for about a week in a continuous loop. Speakers need to be burned in as well.
Yes it's true. I did it for my KZ ZSN headphones.
thank you!!
I bought a pair of Sharp HP-400H headphones, and they don't sound as nearly as good as they say. Since they're pretty much in near mint condition and they probably haven't been used a lot, this may be just what I needed. Thank you so much, I really love your channel.
Thank you Zeus! Please keep us updated on the Sharp...if they do or do not get better!
@@anadialog It could be placebo, but I let them burn-in for 2 hours and I can already hear a difference in the bass. When I reach 40 hours I'll let you know. Thanks again!
@@ZeusTheTornado yoooo how is the 40 hours now?
@@kimL9000 Damn, just seeing your comment now. I could never pull decent sound out of the Sharps, I think it was due to just poor seal on my head. I did recently burn-in some Sonys from 1979 and I think I heard a difference for the better
@@ZeusTheTornado finally I can sleep in peace without wondering the answer
I've got both a new pair of beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro (250ohms) and beyerdynamic DT 990 Edition (600ohm) impedance headphones on order, I might give this burn in a take for the first time.
5 to 6 months? It wasn't the CD player that got broken in, it was your ears and mind
I agree so much with u. Not just phones n speakers but... Ma new Ayre dx5-dsd took two months to burn in n it was running continuously. Ayres needs a long burning time but after this period they blowing u away
Thanks for adding more evudence in support of this procedure!
So I literally just started the burn in process on my Beyerdynamic dt 1990 pro 250 ohm headphones, I am running them through a dac / headphone amp at 24-bit / 192,000. My volume is set to 10/100, is that a good volume / sweet spot for them? Thanks
Sounds perfect!
I don't really believe in a noticeable break-in when it comes to speakers (except for magnetostatic and electrostatic types), but that's mainly because I've never heard it myself.
Same goes for bearings.
Many people notice difference when bearings (of tonearms and motor spindles) and the lubricant within loosens up after some time of movement, but I've never noticed a difference.
However, when it comes to styli, I actually noticed a difference by breaking in and there is an explanation for it: the rubbers used to suspend the cantilever become less stiff.
Especially the Ortofon Concorde Century made a huuuuge change during the first 70 hours of playing music.
Same goes for my Benz Micro Glider SL, AT95E and Ortofon 2M Black, but the change was way smaller.
So I can recommend doing something similar to cartridges, just by playing a lot of vinyl. Vinyl mastered on high volume levels seemed to do the job a bit quicker.
This file doesn't seem to hit the lower frequencies, at least not that I can tell. Is that an accurate assessment of what I've heard from it?
The burn-in sweep is a 20hz-20khz. It’s a simple sine wave you’re not going to hear much
And yes....ive tried it. I have a new pair of Audio Technica Pro 500mk2 Monitor Headphones. In the beginning, they sucked, i had no fun with them. Now, after watching your advise, i let them burn for 4 days nonstop. What can i say, they sound amazing now, thats incredible. If you got good ears and a good understanding of bass, mids and highs, you will imediatly hear the difference. They are my fave headphones now, its insane;-)
Thank tou Aykut for sharing your positive experience!!
@@anadialog aaiiigghht:-))
on what volume level do I need to play the file? I received my HD650 today :) I'm very happy to finally own a good pair of headphones. I have an AudioGD R2R-11 coming within a week, so I can't wait to burn them in and listen to the new TOOL album at the end of this month.
great video, thank you!
Thank you! A normal ti low volume. Just ti make sure that the sweeps don't hurt parts of the drive...
@@anadialog Thanks for the reply. I can't wait!
love the video! u should lock the camera focus though!
the link is not working anymore.. can you reup?
Brother, I've missed you. I have a pair of AKG q 701. I need to have someone suggest how much burn in time should be applied. Missed your videos for a while.
It depends some need hours some need months! BUT if it takes months you should notice a progress of some intensive burn-in. Otherwise they are not going to move from their spot…that can also happen unfortunately
@@anadialog Thanks
Is it still possible to DL this file from somewhere? Link is dead... :-(
Fixed. Sorry about that and thanks for reporting it. Enjoy and merry Christmas!
The more burned the better! And this is also to any other component mostly the amp
@My Name Not the mechanical stuff, I agree but all the electronic parts. It's essencial for the cables and CD players. At least 250 hours continuous play.
I must admit that 80% of all components do get better after a lot of usage...cartridges, phone preamps, tubes as you said etc.
It's both!
I don't really know the true answer to this phenomenon but some years ago I found an explanation that made sense. For instance lets talk about cables. Inside analog cables there's a copper mesh. What makes them sound better after some use is the disappearance of the kind of microscopic vacuum that exists in the mesh. Melt is not the better word to describe what happens there but I think it gives the idea. (It's really hard for me to talk about this because English is not my born language.)
Nice! Time to burn in my HD650s
I got 4 new speaker systems in the last year and a half for my home and I'm thinking the soundbars may need to be burned in too and is just not a bright system, it may just need burning in. I also find it hard to believe that all my systems sound annoying, some fatigue too. do you know if Andrew jones pioneer recommends burn hours?
No, I don't, but it is always a good idea! That unfortunately does not mean that things will always get better...
@@anadialog well ill give you some feedback in about 6 months, all systems should have plenty of break by that point
Hello. Its true.Your recommended volume level. Thanks
Very low! Check the video description!
Grazie per l'aiuto...ps...il tuo Inglese è molto facile da capire anche per chi non parla bene la lingua. Thanks
Grazie! Meno male!
What volume output should we run these files at? Standard casual listening or slightly louder to stretch?
Standard
Sounds like me: just bought my first studio headphones to improve the audio in my video editing, and they don't sound that good... at all (AKG K271 mk ii). Caveat: I don't have a DAC nor an Amp, I'm just using them mini-jacked to my laptop or my active speakers. Do you think lacking a DAC/Amp is the culprit for such a dissapointing listening experience?. Do I need to "burn my ears in" as well to this new type of flat sound? (coming from many years of listening though cheap Sony consumer headphones) Also, I feel they press too much on my head, should I "burn in" the clamping system too (leave them stretched overnight to see if they loosen up or something? I'm on the brink of despair. Thanks a lot for your advice! :) PS: I started burning them in with your recipe 2 days ago.
Hi Luciano, these should be good headphones. Burning them in is a good idea, at least 40 hrs and see if things change. I would wait to flex them because, perhaps, you could send them back if you really don't like them. Checking the specs they should work normally also as you are using them, nevertheless, its always a good idea do have some extra power when using good headphones. Its not only the quality of the amplification but also quite simply power in order to express their full potential.
I'll mind your advice. Thanks for taking the time!
Sure!
How much volume should i set to use this file. Is 30-40% volume ok or enough?
Yes, not too much. Even lower at the beginning.
ok, so tell me a bit about this "burning". How to do that exactly? I have some audio technica Headphones which i really dont like because it has a strange sound. How can i burn them?
If you have been using them for years, it won't help. If not, plug the headphones in a digital player or computer and play in loop the file in the video description at a low volume for at least 40hrs to 100hrs. Be sure your source can handle and is set for high resolution playback.
@@anadialog aaaahhhh, okkeyyy. That makes sense. Ok. Ill try and tell what happens:-))
Also is it really possible to blow out or damage a headphone from playback? I have been pushing my headphones for a while now and it doesn't seem likely to be damaged. Speakers seem more likely than headphones.
It can happen with high frequencies at high volumes but speakers tend to be more sensitive I agree
How about a list of both expensive and cheap headphones with good audio quality?
Could be ...;-)
Need to be out of the room with this playing for & hour , I just ran it .
Or cover the speaker up .
I have been using 20Hz for the woofer for a while , give it a good old flex
Yeah!
don't think the audio file link works?
Just checked. Perfectly working. Download the file. It's better.
Hi I got a new set of edifier hi res monitor speakers and ear fatigue kicks In pretty quick even at low volume, just hoping breaking them in will end the fatigue.
I am sure they will greatly change in better during the next weeks. Fatigue is usually due to an exceeding presence of high frequencies but also low frequencies. Be sure, if by any chance you have knobs or any settings, to keep them down. In any case, the burn in will solve all issues.
Thanks for getting back, i will try that.
Another easy and fast solution , bring it back. A good seller wants you to be happy to sell you more
Can't do that in all countries!
My headphone's sound doesn't work until I turn it more than halfway up. Will this help?
That is because they need power...get another amp with at least 1W of output.
I got my headsets now time to burn them in overnight
How use the file for a cd player?
Do you have a USB port? Otherwise use a computer or smartphone...
from beginning to end , you are spot on
The others do not understand this type of engineering so they use scientific software to prove it .
The funny thing is we should be using our ears to tell the sound when this is happening.
I don't think some of us TRUST there earing at all if they need a computer to tell them .
We have our hands FULL with explaining this .
Now you have made a video on this , will the penny ever drop .
True...but not everything is measurable and machines not always pick up all issues...
@@anadialog I told you so , science is there Religion , not there natural hearing
@My Name If you have a faulty AMP then repair it with real tools like a soldering iron with a multimeter or replace it and then continue .
If you need a PC screen to see the sound the thats all you will be doing is looking at a monitor , NOT listening to the speaker as it is .
Computers have no sense at all , nether has any other Religion , YESS science is a religion , a pretty arrogant one at that !
There is no point in buying NEW speakers that have been recomended by these other youtubers , they do it for money & fame let alone the burn time you have to go through .
There are THOUSANDS of speakers already made that are already used anyway , and bigger ones too.
If you need help with your repair then go to youtube CH : vault vids & learn from there .
If you can fix it yourself, you can keep it
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@@anadialog OK, I'm willing to suspend my disbelief on this, so I got 2 questions:
1. If I really need to break-in my speakers with pink noise, then why the manufacturer didn't give it to me when I bought them? Should I sue the manufacturer for not providing me the tools that I must use to make the product usable? For example, if I buy a new car, the manufacturer has strict suggestions how the engine should be "broken-in" in order to be used correctly. Then why haven't I receive such instructions and tools when I bought my speakers?
2. Could you please explain to me what really was the problem with your blu-ray sounding like "sh*t"? I understand what you meant in the video (which was totally wrong, btw, but let's not go into this). Please tell me what exactly changed so it started sounding better? Or is it something magical that cannot be explained? One day it just decided to "sound" better?
Hi there, well, following your analogy, a new car will perform much worse when its brand new that after say months of use. It's the same for audio. Everything is working and there is not fault from the seller or producer side. But after a period of brake in things just sound or work better. In fact a large number of manufacturers do brake in their components but that is an extra expense for them, which will increase the final price tag. My player? Very simply after spending almost 4000$ I was expecting a mystical experience that did not took place. After a few months things started to sound better and better. The various components of the player including the DAC were starting to open up and finally after another few months when I put some specific CDs I had goosebumps. I was being emotionally involved do to the improvement. Up till then, nope! Very straightforward. Also my new focal clears are still sounding bad and I am not hearing their full potential.
How tonset my computer to play on high resolution audio mode ?
Depends from your soundcard and player!
Hey my good man l am going to try this l haven't used my monitors for for awhile so l'll try and l will let ya know if l hear anything ok thanks for the information 😊 l'll be talking with ya soon later
Please do!
How loud should it be played Sir? Great video !!!
Remember to read carefully the RULES I wrote in the video description! Play it very low!
@@anadialog emmm I did the opposite to flex the speakers that have been standing .
Low volume will not touch the sides will it .
Yes, ok but the high frequencies are very high...if you play them too loud you are going to damage the tweeters...trust me, I have been there...
What do you mean?
@@anadialog I have 2 replies here , I can not see the one witch is mine so this one seems closer to mine.. sort it out UA-cam !!!
I have had that too with tweeters POP.
I ran this with a pair of stale CELESTION DITTON 15 , the midband sounded off after so many years .
I had them running for 1 hour at 10 o,clock volume with a Class A amp , very LOUD but no distortion .
That run has loosen them up again .
They cannot flex if the power is to low can they .
Yeah my speakers were facing on the carpet , thats how I did it .
I'm burning in my headphones!
Good job!
@@anadialog it's playing the j lab burn in audio file
Oppo!!
Burn in is super real... sometimes it happens fast...sometimes the company does it ahead of time to get that extra 3% before the( initial ) listener gets it.
At least it seemed like it happened on my Jubilee headphones fast...
Yes, I agree, sometimes it's long, sometimes it's superfast...
ana[dia]log yea... Variable factors.
Eu não recomendo dessa forma. Eu recentemente comprei um beyerdynamic dt 700 pro e fiz este burning. Coloquei em um volume ligeiramente abaixo do médio. Como eu já tinha ouvido muito o fone eu consegui ver a diferença após todo o processo. Aproximadamente 12h de burning atenuou bem médios agudos e altos agudos. E isso me deu um pouco de medo. Acredito que se o seu fone já estiver soando bem você deve deixá-lo como está. Isso pode ser um processo perigoso.⚠️ Ou fazer pouco tempo em um volume baixo e ir ouvindo… Por exemplo 1h de burning, em seguida vc ouve sua música de referência.
Why did he hit record and then walk away to get a shot of him sitting down?
Just to change the intro a bit 😎
Is headphone burn in a thing
Yes, only hip guys do it! 😎
@@anadialog will it make them sound better
Thanks a lot, but my pair of cats doesn't like this experience and disappeared from the room
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the link is not working nice video tho :)
its work --> 3 minutes and 2 GB of noise (Extra High Definition of Noise, hahahaha) Here (its the same) my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=0VUitalK
Actually it's 1.5 hours!!
its working now idk what happend :) @@anadialog
@@anadialog I had just turn off the computer. But thank you very much, it's really a good tip!
Your right on about this those that refuse to belive it are not audiophiles just plain green to this hobbie my way of dealing with it is just play the dam thing and be PATIENT THANK YOU
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I'm going to burn in my new headphones
Bravo!
@@anadialog does burn in actually exist
My planars sound worse after this. I think I killed the lows after using your burn in for 10 hours.
They are normal 20hz-20khz sweeps and pink noise, if they can't even handle that, ditch them!
☠️ I'm an audiophile and I can tell you, this is absolutely unnecessary.
Just enjoy the music and stop worrying about things you shouldn't worry about.
If you never tried or if you didn’t notice anything it doesn’t mean it isn’t true
I`m sorry, but it has been proven both scientifically and practically that burning in the speakers/headphones is a myth. I too experienced it with 2 sets of speakers and multiple headphones and i didn't noticed any difference with time. If it makes a difference, its not perceptible.
Hi Gabriel, I wish things in audio could be scientifically all proven. A lot of things aren't, quite amazingly. Burn-in is not a myth and greatly accepted worldwide by pros in different audio field. Obviously there are a lot of pros who DON'T believe in this process, like you. Perhaps, IF you have done it properly and IF the speakers or headphones were not ALREADY burnt-in by the manufacturer (did you check?) then maybe, the ones you tried were already good. In fact, in the video I clearly stated that this treatment must be done IF gear does not sound right because not all gear needs this. I think there are always benefits but in some cases it is amazing how much things change. Here is just the first interesting article I found on-line: www.tested.com/tech/accessories/459117-science-and-myth-burning-headphones
Sorry but you're absolutely wrong. It has been proven to be a fact. Please cite the scientists who used grant money to "scientifically" prove it to be a myth. Even a moron can fathom that mechanical components like spiders and surrounds in a driver when new are stiff. The springs in your damn mattress are stiff when new but eventually you throw away the mattress when it starts sagging. Some manufacturers do exaggerate the length of the break in period but it is fact none the less. Although it may be harder to fathom the break in required for cables, it too has been shown to be real.