Why SPLITPUSHING Is NOT What You Think It Is! - Play Like A Pro
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The two lanes actually works guys promise.
Stumbled upon this video while queueing for my final game to get into plat, got half way through and it already taught me something huge. Used it in my game, carried so hard! Gonna finish it now!
Holy shit ive never seen anyone talk about transferring push to mid to guarantee sidelane pressure, this is eye opening fr. Great video as always!
What the hell this sounds so smart. There's times where I just wander around because I have no idea what to do/where to go, but keeping an eye on waves is a great idea.
Very nice! New concepts for me, thank you.
I love the free tips you give in your videos. May have to get your Patreon or Coaching to really climb ranks.
Fantastic video. As a newer, lower-elo player, I've often been torn between split-pushing and team-grouping, and this video helps to understand how to get the best of both. Super helpful :)
This is the advanced stuff ive been looking for thank you for making this content free
thanks for that video! now i can apply those tips to my adc :) especially temper lines and rotating side lanes to mid
i love it when this guy post
I'm a master EUW player that mainly plays splitpush champs and I am surprised with how much I learned in this video, thank you!
Tyvm! Very helpful insights
Fantastic video! Thank you
I love the info in this one, learned a lot, thank you
Great content. Very succinct info.
5:41 Nami dies mid before riven has a chance to get to there and her roam would be for nothing since they cant gain any prio 2v2 or even 2v3 when enemy team comes mid aswell. But yes, the raom on the next wave would be good if she skipped scuttle.
This video makes so much sense. I tend to stomp my top lane as volibear but cant quite figure out how to use the advantage to win for my team (voli isnt a great solo carry that can just ult and 1v5, strong but nit that strong)
After this video I have a better idea what todo, great stuff that makes allot of sence.
i definitely recognize what foggedftw2 do most of the time. thank you for this videos, delightful and educative ❤
great simple advice
Id like to see this explained but with Yorick and Illaoi. One requires a zone setup to be useful and excels in 1v2/3 situations, making going to other lanes more difficult and the other can just split push(multiple lanes if wanted)without even being present.
If you don't have scapes, use fog of war and mini map.
Illaoi does not need her zone. If you got ult you can roam. If not you push side lane, ward, and track.
Yorick no strat is needed. Most mindless pusher in the game. Either the enemy team responds to you (run) or they don't (smash towers).
in a two lane setup does top or mid share gold/exp with adc midlane or does mid and toplaners go to same side lane and share gold/exp as they push? who does what?
Ok I'll admit, this is a huge error I almost always do. I don't get caught often, but usually can't progress much on the top T2 tower since enemies show up quickly
Illaoi main here. I side push the lane to watch my team running in circles in our own jungle.
Side push for team to get baron. They get it. Immediately, jungler back to farming camps.
A splitting nasus just lost my game because he tp'd away from the fight we were winning
What about hovering mid first and then going to side?
For example, me as a mid, I recall -> hover mid to give push to allied team -> then go side with teammates' help.
But from what I understood in this video you mostly speak about already being on side and then going on mid, but how do you get on side safely in the first place?
What you said is perfect I just can't cover every scenario otherwise it becomes confusing :)
you used "room for error" in both ways (can/can't make a mistake)
In the first clip enemy was spotted with two wards but vayne kept pushing with small wave and having a bounty. Ofc top laners prefer to solo carry.
my eyes are opening
does 2 lane set up mean mid and another lane? or also top and bottom? is there just more room for getting caught if the pushes are split between top and bot? does it depend on if mid tier 2 is still standing?
Usually mid and a side lane
This is what im doing wrong. Thank you.
ok, this is actually the first time i heard this on a splitpushing video. zamn.
Interesting that you recommend 2-lane Baron setup. Skillcapped recommend 3 way because it's much more efficient push and enemies just don't have enough resources to combat 3 pushing lanes. I feel going for 2 lanes makes sense only if enemies can rotate faster and have more mobile or engage type composition.
Going 3 lanes generally makes easier to respond pressure, as each enemy player has to match your team. Maybe if you have 2 good sidelaners/duelists with kill pressure on enemy team it can work. But working on 2 lanes allows many comps to be able to teamfight better and also is less risky. 1-3-1 tends to be pick-potential for enemy team. Overall, I think it's better to play on 2 lanes with 1 lane either slowpushing or at least not close to towers.
@@Davidzinuhaha You play 1-3-1 but don't commit to any fights. 3v3 shouldn't engage and 1v1s will be slowly autowinning though power of minions alone. You may not be able to dive the opponent with Baron minions but they will destroy the tower sonner or later.
@@Xeverous Ah, I didn't undertstood that you meant after a baron. Yeah, it's good to 1-3-1 after baron to completely pressure, but also I think that after crashing a wave it should reset to 1-4-0, 4-1-0, 0-1-4 (depending on what lane you want to pressure). If you still 1-3-1, against good enemy wave clear even with baron the tower may not fall. Considering that after a baron the team backs, so the full timer of baron is not used.
The point he made for 0-4-1 or 0-3-2 or in between, is that it decreases the chance for a big mistake. Also take into consideration draft. I would be confortable with 1-4-0 because i main Camille and have escapes and 2v1 potential.
3 might be more efficient/optimal, but when you are far ahead like he described, you don't need efficiency to close out the game, you need safety. Something far too few people understand.
how do you zoom out so far in the replay?
Ctrl + Shift + Z + Scrollwheel
@@CoachRogue thanks!
The number of times I will encounter people who have watched this video in the next year: 0-5 games. Seriously, why is it always a Draven trying to split push top without TP while I'm splitting bot with TP up. Also, in this situation, is it my fault for not grouping with the team when Draven *should* be the one grouping?
This situation always happens when the mid laner wants to split push and be the solo laner. Aatrox was in the wrong yes, but without knowing these basic macro fundamentals if akali had grouped mid aatrox would have gravitated towards top. its basic both solo lanes wanting to be the split hero
1:39
Didnt they speed up sidesaved a while ago to make it so they arrive at the same time or did that get patched out again?
That's only until 14 min. If you listen carefully, he even specifically mentions it.
@@ZeekCannon must have overheared that mb
@jamalsonicova2509 yeah he mentioned it in passing so it was easy to miss
Split pushing always gives my team a great oppertunity to run it down mid 4v5 and die for no reason
Baron = Lost xD
Baus would disagree
Most people don't play like baus
Baufss actually dies on purpose with good timers and stuff tho
You are overcomplicating. Start game, rush Hullbreaker, push till you die, respawn, repeat.
Maybe its easier to play 2 lanes with nash in your example , but its definitly not the right play at all.
Even if Aatrox is in Mid , Sup and Jg could still be off sync u dont know that for a fact , and if they just stick to top side and let aatrox play 1/2/3 v1 they will always come out ahead.
Even if Aatrox dies.
Correct play is to go bot for a fact since enemies dont have any hard engage except blitzcrank flash hook , which akali should never get hit from (F up)
Obv. its easier to execute the 1/4 split but its not optimal , not at all and especially not against that enemy teamcomp.
Im sorry but i just cant understand this. @3:45
Your telling me its riven's job to, after killing somebody on her own side and pushes the wave out needs to sack her pressure and come cover the vayne mid.
Shaco is right there clearing chickens, why is he clearing chickens/red instead of pathing to shadow/siege with vayne? If they come for riven, they get mid free, if they go for vayne, he gets top for free... we wont even talk about the ori going bot to catch the inevitable push back...
So because 2 of your teammates dont do their job, you need to preemptively rotate and do their job while sacking your tempo/pressure?
Sounds stupid and the people at fault are shaco and ori, who should just be mid to SPLIT the enemy team into making their choice to defend a t1 or t2.
The way I saw it, he was giving good rules of thumb that YOU can follow every game, regardless of what your team does, and will help improve your chances to win. Who tf cares about some random Shaco and Ori and what they should be doing? If you know what they should be doing and use pings to mind control them, good on you, but that's not what this vid is about.
He's saying that because vayne and riven are on different tempo lines, one of them can get collapsed on, so it's better to play on the Vayne's line.
Splitpushing needs to be deleted from the game. its the most bs strat that allows garbage players to win cuz of busted picks like trundle.