The TRUTH about Runes and Builds on Taliyah!

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  • Опубліковано 13 гру 2024

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  • @ZoDyAc57
    @ZoDyAc57 5 місяців тому +42

    It's really great having a content creator who goes as in-depth on damage calculations and build varieties on a single champion.
    Even though Taliyah is not one of the most popular champions (outside of when she's overtuned in pro I guess), it's amazing having someone like you create quality guides and Excel Sheets with comparisons.
    Thanks a lot Odysseus !

  • @horizon146
    @horizon146 5 місяців тому +23

    It's even funnier because Conq would stack up a lot faster if you actually used auto attacks making it that much better than electrocute

    • @5si5si
      @5si5si 5 місяців тому +2

      before electro changes, auto q auto on conq + scorch was the same damage level1 as electro cutdown

  • @liamryden558
    @liamryden558 5 місяців тому +9

    22:51 the true damage from First Strike is a percentage of the post mitigation damage you deal to the target, so if the target mitigates your base damage, they also mitigate your first strike damage, i.e. it doesn't counter mr

    • @jobliar937
      @jobliar937 5 місяців тому +1

      It does counter when mr suddenly increases tho for example u combo a rammus then we pressed w them he gets hit by first strike

    • @larsbeerepoot6859
      @larsbeerepoot6859 5 місяців тому

      @@jobliar937 but how is that a counter bro what? electro would pop before he would gets w off anyways.

    • @jobliar937
      @jobliar937 5 місяців тому

      @@larsbeerepoot6859 true just trying to think of a situation where u get extra damage from the true damage

  • @Nywden
    @Nywden 5 місяців тому +5

    10:27 I think the reason the dmg changes is because you get more bonus mana as you stack your Manaflow Band rune, and therefore you get more ap from seraphs passive

    • @Nywden
      @Nywden 5 місяців тому +1

      Yh I just checked and you get 1 more ap from this

  • @talxnn
    @talxnn 5 місяців тому +23

    BOOM WHATUP SOLOTALIYAH ONLY HERE

  • @EvilChicken313
    @EvilChicken313 5 місяців тому +1

    great video, I‘m also not the biggest blackfire torch fan, but one advantage that you couldn‘t really check when you only attack one dummy is that you get 4% ap for each enemy in combat, so if you place your e and it hits 4 people you end up with 12% extra ap (idk how the calculation is, but I assume it‘s along the lines of this)

  • @Heffae
    @Heffae 5 місяців тому +1

    Dude, I don’t even main Taliyah but DAMN does this content slap I can’t wait for other ppl to realize it and you to get to 100k subs 😂

  • @nataliiadarmenko7061
    @nataliiadarmenko7061 5 місяців тому +2

    Did u stack eyeball for the electro tests?

  • @Cellus5000
    @Cellus5000 5 місяців тому +2

    The real exposure was that THIS GAME IS WELL BALANCED and that every item/rune setup has tradeoffs and benefits so just using a build from a guide and ignoring gamestate is really fucking stupid

  • @pastantes
    @pastantes 5 місяців тому

    bro wtf, you are actually a professional on this platform, thanks god

  • @5si5si
    @5si5si 5 місяців тому

    what people dont understand about electro vs conq is electro hits a single target whereas conq adds damage against everybody
    another good note is that when you use Q, the 4 remaining rocks do more damage because of the +2 conq stacks, very minimal but adds damage, this applies on E if you hit two champions, whichever champion is damaged later takes more damage

  • @Lunai5444
    @Lunai5444 5 місяців тому

    Damn thanks a lot for this.
    I wouldn't have considered Conqueror even if I saw you test it out months before but yeah it does seem good for extended trades where you won't get 2 electrocute procs.
    You say it depends on the player I would argue it's a lot more about the Jungle / Mid match ups if you're gonna get extended trades or short if you wanna play for win or poke or scale out of the lane etc.

  • @Cellus5000
    @Cellus5000 5 місяців тому

    First Strikes True damage is *Post-Mitigation* so its like Yone E true dmg where it doesnt actually avoid any resists becauses its just echoing the dmg you do to them through resists

  • @losclipskbros3128
    @losclipskbros3128 5 місяців тому

    testing conq now for the boi, also do you sell boots for some item lategame???

  • @jobliar937
    @jobliar937 5 місяців тому

    9:00 I feel like pressance of mind is the worst mana ruin tbh

  • @jamesshroogle6331
    @jamesshroogle6331 5 місяців тому +3

    The messiah spoke to us, let me pick Taliyah mid with Conqueror, Seraphs, Cosmic and win. Amen
    Actually I'm a support player why did I just watch 25 min of Taliyah damage testing? You tell me.

  • @blalaclada5540
    @blalaclada5540 4 місяці тому

    First strike damage gets mitigated by MR because its damage is based on how much magic damage you deal

  • @Vinpin00
    @Vinpin00 5 місяців тому

    W Video W Ody pls more educational stuff !!!

  • @jobliar937
    @jobliar937 5 місяців тому

    I mean this doesn’t include the kiting value u get from phase rush… allowing u to position differently, chase enemies and survive ganks

  • @sleepz2257
    @sleepz2257 5 місяців тому

    Blackfire torch also has the built in passive

  • @neofaktion
    @neofaktion 5 місяців тому

    Odysseus, please make a video addressing the jungle taliyah nerf :(

  • @MultiAndrebr
    @MultiAndrebr 5 місяців тому +1

    where are you from ody?

    • @SkarM_x
      @SkarM_x 5 місяців тому

      I think he lives in Amsterdam iirc

  • @yksap
    @yksap 5 місяців тому

    you forgot about first strike and dark harvest. but idk if dark harvest is not viable in mid lane

    • @ateru9805
      @ateru9805 5 місяців тому

      he did first strike just later

    • @JaakeBubba
      @JaakeBubba 5 місяців тому

      Only take DH in jungle and botlane

    • @lugia80
      @lugia80 5 місяців тому

      @@JaakeBubba do i take DH as taliyah adc or just taliyah supp

  • @davidjou614
    @davidjou614 5 місяців тому +1

    Bigggg boooommmmm😂

  • @plasticola4660
    @plasticola4660 5 місяців тому

    Good shit

  • @ponyfish157
    @ponyfish157 5 місяців тому +1

    Shouldnt conq be a lot better in the jungle then?
    Jungle item takes care of youre mana problems

    • @Odysseus131
      @Odysseus131  5 місяців тому +3

      Its just that both inspiration and sorcery secondary runes are really good in jungle, (free boots,waterwalking etc)

  • @yousefabd3021
    @yousefabd3021 5 місяців тому +5

    U can turn off the mana cost bro …..

    • @Odysseus131
      @Odysseus131  5 місяців тому +14

      Leme turn it off in real game too

    • @yousefabd3021
      @yousefabd3021 5 місяців тому

      @@Odysseus131 same pain bro we need to turn it off as well

    • @MakZkovich
      @MakZkovich 5 місяців тому +1

      ???

  • @mobu-
    @mobu- 5 місяців тому

    I play conq now, feel so good

  • @muf8413
    @muf8413 5 місяців тому +1

    why no first strike?

    • @JohannesMusic
      @JohannesMusic 5 місяців тому +6

      You have to watch till the end

    • @muf8413
      @muf8413 5 місяців тому

      @@JohannesMusic oh mb xD

  • @drthvdr2802
    @drthvdr2802 5 місяців тому

    Dark harvest to stomp low elo (below d4)
    Phase rush is the best rune overall, first strike useless now
    If you are thinking abt electrocute, taliyah isnt the right champ for the teamcomp. taliyah after rework burst is a lot worse and playing for kill early on the champ way harder
    Obviously ody can get away with electro cause hes been playing the setup for literally years now at chall lvl...
    Main thing is items where seraphs is best item by far for shield and mana (taliyah big mana problems). You can maybe go ludens if enemy is noob or u just wanna one shot but less consistent. 2nd item horizon for burst, cosmic for ms/cdr, zhonyas,liandries if fights long and tanky. 3rd item either deathcap or crypt is optimal but depends on game.

  • @profilename1337
    @profilename1337 5 місяців тому

    bring back storm raiders surge 😩

  • @stramanor9635
    @stramanor9635 5 місяців тому

    tests conq, but not aery

  • @jorgericardo792
    @jorgericardo792 5 місяців тому

    Lov from bronzil

  • @hoshikuza144
    @hoshikuza144 5 місяців тому

    Yea seraph/cosmic feels too good imo

  • @xCeresLoL
    @xCeresLoL 5 місяців тому +1

    be honest, u only did this vid to prove the haters that conqueror is the best rune

  • @inininin8995
    @inininin8995 5 місяців тому

    Bruh what is this 20 min endless yapping... Nah but fr cool info for minmaxing. I play Taliyah on emerald jg sometimes, trash elo but phase rush on jgl feels solid to me in some hard matches where people just invade you for no reason

  • @LilyBaopratoom
    @LilyBaopratoom 5 місяців тому

    damn, im early

  • @donatoliotino1872
    @donatoliotino1872 5 місяців тому

    You should collaberate with Professor Akali

  • @muf8413
    @muf8413 5 місяців тому

    1st ^^

  • @celeste-y9x
    @celeste-y9x 5 місяців тому

    solotaliyahonly here