I have been a fan of Psycho II ever since I watched it about a year ago. I have desperately persuaded practically everyone I know to watch it because of how underrated it is. It's nice to see someone else getting the word out. Also, while I agree on Psycho II being amazing in black and white, I don't quite agree for Psycho 3. Psycho 3 pops with color in lighting, giving it an almost Argento-like quality to it. It's clear that Tony Perkins had a very beautiful visual style in his directing, that is intensified by the splashes of color.
Although at the time the sequels were seen as trashy, they hold up quite well now. Without Perkins in them they would have been just that, trash. He did us a favor.
One reason films released as late as the '80's and early 90's look so good in black & white is that veteran cinematographers were still using much the same hard, contrasty lighting they'd perfected in b&w. That's why, for example, 50's and 60's color films from the big studios translate so well to b&w.
I agree with you! ⬛ I'm always recommending PSYCHO II (1983) to UA-camrs who react to PSYCHO (1960). So far, they haven't listened. Hopefully they'll hear you. ⬜
B+W truly makes a huge difference. The two films feel more similar in their tonality; within the same world/story. There is lesser dissonance when articulated thusly ^
I've thought about doing something like this with all three sequels for Psycho a few years ago. I had also thought of trimming things so try to mimic the original Psycho (such as cutting back some of the gore), as well as editing in cross continuity material (like having Olivia Hussey's voice for the flashback scene where Norman find's his mom's note at the phone you featured).
Psycho 2 & 3 are both awesome movies! I've loved them both since I saw them opening day in the theater years ago. This looks amazing in B&W, please do more!!
This is how I always watch the classic TV series The Fugitive (1963-67), its final season was in color but it totally destroyed the mood of the show to suddenly go color when you'd gotten so used to it being shown monochrome. It all switched to color on television there for new productions so the series had to follow suit, alas but it's highly recommended watching it still in b&w. It's a bit similar with Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (1964-68), though not as painful in color its first season was in b&w.
Wish you kept making videos man, just watched psycho II in Black and white paired with the original cuz of your video and I gotta say it was quite the experience, wish I could get more of your other recommendations
What actually really funny is that you said you weren’t going to do it, but the small snippet of the “remake” you showed in black and white kind of made it look better. Kind of.
The references to how wonderful the Jerry Goldsmith score is are interesting, in that it is highly derivative. The fairly quiet musical cue we hear while Norman is holding the paintbrush at 4:49 is taken directly from the Bernard Herrman score for the first Psycho film [1960], and can be heard when Norman is cleaning up the hotel room after discovering Marion's body...........Also, Anthony Perkins wanted to do Psycho III in black and white, but the studio would not permit it.
I wish there would have been a Psycho sequel where it was some other deranged person doing the killing this time. Someone completely unrelated to him or his family and his entire situation. And initially people think it's Norman again but it turns out it isn't. And it's up to Norman to find them and deal with them in some dramatic climax. The tagline would have to be "It takes one to know one".
Considering the movies they release these days, I would rather watch those in b&w because first of all the ugly uniformed unrealistic color schemes used in today's post-production grading are awful; teal everywhere, orange, faded green, pale or over-exposed yellow, red looking more orange/pink, unnatural skin colors, etc. everything tweaked so drab and dull. Also, it's almost b&w often anyway that's how drained they are, so why some people today have a problem watching old b&w films is illogical to begin with since they watch this recent stuff.
I agree. I think B&W is great if shot and lit well. It gives a different aura to that universe the film is in even if it’s just a documentary or a drama (e.g “Frances Ha”, “The Lighthouse”). Color Grading on recent films has taken a rather wonky approach in some films/shows and I think it has to do with the rise of content made for streaming which IMO is sometimes draining the “cinematic” qualities of the images in exchange of a more sterile/digital look. I’m probably gonna take some backlash here, but I was a little disappointed when I saw the recent “Batman” at the theater and seeing the color grading too dull and almost flat looking to the point that (if not for the production values) ended up looking to close to something made for Netflix instead of something Fincher would pull out for the big screen. On the other hand, I think the grading in films like “Dune” and “Licorice Pizza” was very apt for their stories and landscapes each one was set in with very strong primaries especially in the later one.
It's crazy how the grading these days has to be so samey, as if it's required by law, I refuse to believe that the normal natural colors that we were always used to seeing before (up until the early 2000s) suddenly don't exist anymore they do but are mostly manipulated in post because supposedly this is so 'hip'... 🙄In reality, it destroys credibility and overall distracts from the movie, it's like a bad fashion fad that's survived loooong past its limit and acceptance...
It's one thing to 'colorize' new films which is basically what this process is, they're quite terrible anyway but they should stay the hell away from the classics and other older films. Leave them alone, ffs. It's some insane trip catering to a current audience trying to get their attention, it's not worth it nor is it right to mess up history like this.
Hitchcock didn’t choose black and white. It was the only real option he had to make Psycho as the sensors never would’ve approved the shower scene in color.
Hey, I love your channel so far. Really enjoyed the Batman video. I'd love to see that expanded upon with The Dark Knight. I feel like it would be a really interesting film to view in Black and White.
@@themirrorsofmymind a) because they aren’t Perkins hands (in the close shots on the stairs), b) because those shots were inserted later to boost the film’s rating and c) the shots are badly filmed!
I have to agreed. This movie had a bit of a campy feel to it. It didn’t take itself as serious as the original did. The black and white fits the serious tone of the original, but not so much the campiness of the 2nt one. Theirs a reason they chose to release it in color.
I really do like Goldsmith's music but I feel Herrmann gave it the right characterization of off kilter emotions. Jerry was more old Hollywood in his stylings, where Herrmann was toying with modern Classical trends. Still, I did turn down the color to watch Pyscho II the second time and I agree with every other point you make.
Don’t forget that Perkins thought it looked better in black and white too and that’s why the flashbacks to Psycho 2 at the start of Psycho 3 are in black and white
Have to disagree w/Jeery Goldsmith's score. It should've been Elmer Bernstein for the sequel. I bet Psycho II would've worked a lot better in both B&W & w/his score. He is closer ti Bernard Hermann 's style than Jerry Goldsmith.
Black and white is far more complicated than simply “turning down the color”. Every color of the sets and costumes must be carefully chosen for black and white. The lighting techniques are also different. Suggesting that putting a B&W filter on a movie designed for color is as good as real black and white film is an insult to the art of cinematography.
I have been a fan of Psycho II ever since I watched it about a year ago. I have desperately persuaded practically everyone I know to watch it because of how underrated it is. It's nice to see someone else getting the word out. Also, while I agree on Psycho II being amazing in black and white, I don't quite agree for Psycho 3. Psycho 3 pops with color in lighting, giving it an almost Argento-like quality to it. It's clear that Tony Perkins had a very beautiful visual style in his directing, that is intensified by the splashes of color.
One thing I am glad about, Anthony got to be in all the sequels before he died.. it wouldn’t of been the same without him.
Although at the time the sequels were seen as trashy, they hold up quite well now. Without Perkins in them they would have been just that, trash. He did us a favor.
One reason films released as late as the '80's and early 90's look so good in black & white is that veteran cinematographers were still using much the same hard, contrasty lighting they'd perfected in b&w. That's why, for example, 50's and 60's color films from the big studios translate so well to b&w.
very much agree!
Production monitors for video playback were still common to be black and white too-
Psycho II is a fantastic sequel
I have always watched Psycho 2 in Black and white since it came out on video tape .
I agree with you! ⬛ I'm always recommending PSYCHO II (1983) to UA-camrs who react to PSYCHO (1960). So far, they haven't listened. Hopefully they'll hear you. ⬜
Ive always liked it and have felt it to be horribly underrated which is expected because of its predicessor
@@cinemaforce1 Indeed. Perhaps it'll have a resurgence in popularity and be more widely appreciated? If not, I'm grateful to love it as I do.
Awesome video. It's crazy how good it looks in black and white.
B+W truly makes a huge difference. The two films feel more similar in their tonality; within the same world/story. There is lesser dissonance when articulated thusly ^
I've thought about doing something like this with all three sequels for Psycho a few years ago. I had also thought of trimming things so try to mimic the original Psycho (such as cutting back some of the gore), as well as editing in cross continuity material (like having Olivia Hussey's voice for the flashback scene where Norman find's his mom's note at the phone you featured).
Go for it!
Psycho 2 & 3 are both awesome movies! I've loved them both since I saw them opening day in the theater years ago. This looks amazing in B&W, please do more!!
This is how I always watch the classic TV series The Fugitive (1963-67), its final season was in color but it totally destroyed the mood of the show to suddenly go color when you'd gotten so used to it being shown monochrome. It all switched to color on television there for new productions so the series had to follow suit, alas but it's highly recommended watching it still in b&w. It's a bit similar with Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea (1964-68), though not as painful in color its first season was in b&w.
Wish you kept making videos man, just watched psycho II in Black and white paired with the original cuz of your video and I gotta say it was quite the experience, wish I could get more of your other recommendations
Thanks so much! Sorry we haven't made any recently but a new season is coming I promise!
Where do I watch in black and white ??
@@beardedspirit735 just gotta go into your tv settings and turn off color my friend
What actually really funny is that you said you weren’t going to do it, but the small snippet of the “remake” you showed in black and white kind of made it look better. Kind of.
I love this idea (not that need a reason to rewatch Psycho II)!
Taking your concept, I rewatched Godzilla 1984 in black and white. It looks fantastic!
The references to how wonderful the Jerry Goldsmith score is are interesting, in that it is highly derivative. The fairly quiet musical cue we hear while Norman is holding the paintbrush at 4:49 is taken directly from the Bernard Herrman score for the first Psycho film [1960], and can be heard when Norman is cleaning up the hotel room after discovering Marion's body...........Also, Anthony Perkins wanted to do Psycho III in black and white, but the studio would not permit it.
Man, I like people who think outside the box like this.
Thanks so much! New season coming soon!
Kinda shocked by how few views this has so far. Very, very well made and interesting video
I would presume it is not available in color?....would to see it. Great presentation....Thank you
Thank you so much!
I wish there would have been a Psycho sequel where it was some other deranged person doing the killing this time. Someone completely unrelated to him or his family and his entire situation. And initially people think it's Norman again but it turns out it isn't. And it's up to Norman to find them and deal with them in some dramatic climax. The tagline would have to be "It takes one to know one".
Read Psycho 2 by Robert Bloch - a completely different plot to the book. Both book and film are brilliant
Sounds like you’re describing one of the Psycho book sequels.
This makes me wonder what all kinds of things would be like in black and white.
Considering the movies they release these days, I would rather watch those in b&w because first of all the ugly uniformed unrealistic color schemes used in today's post-production grading are awful; teal everywhere, orange, faded green, pale or over-exposed yellow, red looking more orange/pink, unnatural skin colors, etc. everything tweaked so drab and dull. Also, it's almost b&w often anyway that's how drained they are, so why some people today have a problem watching old b&w films is illogical to begin with since they watch this recent stuff.
I agree. I think B&W is great if shot and lit well. It gives a different aura to that universe the film is in even if it’s just a documentary or a drama (e.g “Frances Ha”, “The Lighthouse”). Color Grading on recent films has taken a rather wonky approach in some films/shows and I think it has to do with the rise of content made for streaming which IMO is sometimes draining the “cinematic” qualities of the images in exchange of a more sterile/digital look. I’m probably gonna take some backlash here, but I was a little disappointed when I saw the recent “Batman” at the theater and seeing the color grading too dull and almost flat looking to the point that (if not for the production values) ended up looking to close to something made for Netflix instead of something Fincher would pull out for the big screen. On the other hand, I think the grading in films like “Dune” and “Licorice Pizza” was very apt for their stories and landscapes each one was set in with very strong primaries especially in the later one.
It's crazy how the grading these days has to be so samey, as if it's required by law, I refuse to believe that the normal natural colors that we were always used to seeing before (up until the early 2000s) suddenly don't exist anymore they do but are mostly manipulated in post because supposedly this is so 'hip'... 🙄In reality, it destroys credibility and overall distracts from the movie, it's like a bad fashion fad that's survived loooong past its limit and acceptance...
It's one thing to 'colorize' new films which is basically what this process is, they're quite terrible anyway but they should stay the hell away from the classics and other older films. Leave them alone, ffs. It's some insane trip catering to a current audience trying to get their attention, it's not worth it nor is it right to mess up history like this.
What would Psycho look like in colour?
See the remake!
Turned off the color 20 years ago and, wow, what a difference. Highly recommend it.
Love your channel so far, and you're a great narrator
Need more videos my dude, really like this channel.
Great video and Recomendation. Thanx!!!
Thank you so much! Stay tuned new episodes coming soon!
Great Channel! I am a black and white lover. I tried to put in black and white (The Queen Gambit, Blue velvet, Dead Zone or The Exorcist) A delight!
What a really cool idea. I'm going to do this at the weekend
Have fun!
Hitchcock didn’t choose black and white. It was the only real option he had to make Psycho as the sensors never would’ve approved the shower scene in color.
my fave psycho
Does this mean that a black & white copy of Psycho II is now available to buy on DVD? Or is this merely wishful thinking?
nope you have to do it yourself!
Hey, I love your channel so far. Really enjoyed the Batman video. I'd love to see that expanded upon with The Dark Knight. I feel like it would be a really interesting film to view in Black and White.
So produce a black and white version but edit out the shots of his hands as Meg Tilly stabs him
Why edit out "Norman's" hands?
@@themirrorsofmymind a) because they aren’t Perkins hands (in the close shots on the stairs), b) because those shots were inserted later to boost the film’s rating and c) the shots are badly filmed!
where can one find this version ? not on any of the dvds ive browsed through ?
You can “create” it by adjusting the colour balance on a normal dvd
yeah, it doesn't work at all.
Why not?
I have to agreed. This movie had a bit of a campy feel to it. It didn’t take itself as serious as the original did. The black and white fits the serious tone of the original, but not so much the campiness of the 2nt one. Theirs a reason they chose to release it in color.
More! Please!
So how do you suggest we do this??? I am on a Mac OS using iTunes to watch movies or I just stream them. How do I watch it in B&W???
Turn the color down on your monitor if possible
I really do like Goldsmith's music but I feel Herrmann gave it the right characterization of off kilter emotions. Jerry was more old Hollywood in his stylings, where Herrmann was toying with modern Classical trends. Still, I did turn down the color to watch Pyscho II the second time and I agree with every other point you make.
Thank you so much. I am a big fan of both composers.
so where can we see it in b&w?
Don’t forget that Perkins thought it looked better in black and white too and that’s why the flashbacks to Psycho 2 at the start of Psycho 3 are in black and white
I recently re watched Ken Russels Crimes of Passion and it kind of felt like a Psycho side sequel.
How can I watch the sequels in black and white
Fantastic video! Can you do Romero's Martin?
Amazing idea!
Have to disagree w/Jeery Goldsmith's score. It should've been Elmer Bernstein for the sequel. I bet Psycho II would've worked a lot better in both B&W & w/his score. He is closer ti Bernard Hermann 's style than Jerry Goldsmith.
Black and white is far more complicated than simply “turning down the color”. Every color of the sets and costumes must be carefully chosen for black and white. The lighting techniques are also different. Suggesting that putting a B&W filter on a movie designed for color is as good as real black and white film is an insult to the art of cinematography.
Yes that’s why it’s very surprising how well it works here
I love Psycho, Psycho II, & Psycho IV: The Beginning! I wasn't a huge fan of Psycho III.
Twilight Zone: The Movie is better in B&W
It should’ve been b&w in the first place.
Yes!
I think I will watch the fist 3 in black and white definitely nothing else beyond those though as they are all shite.
Rubbish. Black and white versions of color movies are no different than colorizing black and white movies. It's nonsensical and just plain WRONG.
That's just like your opinion man.
Just no
That all you got? Seriously, you came here just to write that? god damn you're boring.
Why?
@@Rilumai part of the novelty of the film is the switch to color.