They call that Golden Age thinking. It's quite reductive. There are so many great gymnasts and such hard gymnastics being done now it's hardly boring, even with all the faults in the Code that need to be rectified.
when gymnastics was called only gymnastics and was as artistic as it could be, now it's called artistic gymnastics and is all but artistic. i miss the old soviets and romanians so much!!!
Daniela Silivas was an incredibly good gymnast, but AURELIA DOBRE had a little something that goes beyond, she was not only powerful, technically perfect, but so elegant, her elegance was a plus and for me no other except Nadia Comaneci had been so special. So sad she had that surgery in her knee after this competition, otherwise she would have taken the Olympic Gold in Seoul 1988, no doubt, she was the best among a truly terrific group of gymnasts (Silivas, Shushunova, etc).
Actually, to me both Dobre and Silivas had that extra something. Both were extremely charismatic, skilled and artistic. I love Silivas more because she had a longer and more varied career than Dobre.
This is the most beautifully choreographed FX I've ever seen. And the most artistic. If she didn't have that huge growth spurt, she would have won the Olympics AA in 1988 despite the tremedous gymnastics from Silivas and Shushunova. It would have been extremely exciting to see the three of them battled it out in 1988--any of them could have won. But Dobre just grew too fast in one year to keep up. Plus that knee surgury.
withlove312 Dobre would have lasted longer if she didn't have that huge growth spurt in one year. And of course, her knees. IMO, Dobre is the most elegant World class gymnast ever. Only Yang Bo on BB can touch Dobre's elegance on BB.
Vette gaddia Yeah poor Dobre. :( I think Mostepanova is easily more elegant than just about anyone. Her quality of movement was unmatched.Of course, elegance is just one measurement.
withlove312 Yes, and many of the former Soviets are extremely elegant and do the most challenging routines. As for the Americans and the Chinese girls, some of them are pretty artistic too, along with the proper level of difficulty(on at least one event).
I remember watching this on ABC and being blown away what this girl was capable of doing. Voinea's Floor was great also. And they had Daniela Silivas. That's almost not even fair. I think Szabo may have been on the team also. Ridiculous talent.
What a beautiful choreography and music!. Aurelia you are an artist, good in all apparatus and the most charismatic gymnast at 80´s. We won´t never forget you.
+3Axel1996 Oh, you're so right. That was Don Peters. How did I even come up with the name Greg Marsden? Was Greg Marsden even associated with gymnastics? I'm getting senile. LOL
Thanks for posting this. It's one of my all-time favorite floor routines! Aurelia was one of the greats in my opinion. Too bad for her injury leading up to the Olympics.
Aurelia Dobre's performances were subtle, substantial and sublimely beautiful. She indulged gymnastics fans around the world with a mixture of impeccable technique and enticing artistry! This was one AA World Championship that no one could dispute.
Fabulous routine- she makes the spins and turns look so easy- how many modern gymnasts have we seen foiled by a single/double/triple spin on floor and beam these days? Also, what a shame she wasn't able to have a longer career! She's easily among the top gymnasts who could have been truly legendary if it weren't for injuries, along with Russia's Ekaterina Lobaznyuk from the late 90s and early 00s.
Ma uit La Tine Si Acum cu Mullllt Drag si Respect ...tu ai o varsta si eu la Fel . .dar tot aduci aceiaşi Bucurie in a te Privi Cu Respec....ati fost o Generație EXTRAORDINARA!!!
i was 10 in 1987...i have world games 87 recorded in vhs, but only 3 gymnastic routines...Olimpic games 88 i have all recorded and never got tired to watch...88 was the most beautiful gym i have seen...
This has long been one of my favorite FX routines. But oh, I am so glad they did away with that yellow-gold floor carpet. It was hard to look at half the time.
Thank you so much for sharing this. It's great to see the original footage with the commentary. I was just 11 in 1987 and when I hear the original commentary that I saw back then (I must've watched that video hundreds of times!) it's like meeting a long lost friend. Thank you so much for sharing.
I love everything about this but I will say, Goddamn the audience can't clap in time with the music and I hope that didn't throw her off the routine. Shit.
Yes, the punch front to a sitting position was actually a deliberate element. A lot of people thought it was an error!! I love it; its very unique, but yes, I can see why it could be problematic if performed constantly. I never saw her perform it at any other competition other than this one either.
Also, the only other person I can think of who did anything similar was Jana Bieger's beam combination of tuck back somi to sit to an immediate front somi to sit, and she only performed it for a few competitions; the knees have to take a lot of strain, so elements such as these landing where the knees take all of the impact are rare, and are generally performed as "one-off's".
Dobre is the perfect gymnast. She's not the best at anything, but she's good at everything, she's the German shepherd of gymnasts, lol... She has the perfect balance of flexibility, grace, difficulty, elegance, dance, acrobatics, acting, charisma, perfection. I think that this is precisely where she is number one, being good at everything, she was even good at all 4 devices. Unforgettable the 1987 world champion.
So sad that today's Gymnastics seem to be soley interested in tumling & tricks. I get that tumling & tricks are an exciting part of Gymnastics competitons but grace, dance, and using the body to express tiring routines is priceless!
Your observations are very generalized. I was captivated by all 3 gymnasts at these championships but the most riveting was Aurelia Dobre. I acknowledged Daniela Silivas' mistakes and maintain that Yelena Shushunova was overscored. Shushunova's routines were amazing and difficult but lacked the compusure and impeccable quality of Dobre and Silivas. My critique has nothing to do with her body type. She was impassioned and absolutely perfect in Seoul on FX and various other apparatus.
Yeah it was great choreography from Dobre. I think everyone knew Romanian gymnasts can dance back then it's just when Belu became head coach that their floor exercsies began to look robotic, with few exceptions like Alexandra Marinescu. They're coming back though with people like Ana Porgras.
Bring back the days where dance AND difficult tumbling matched like this. Ana Porgras is very close to this if she can work on her tumbling but nothing that gymnasts are doing these days compares to this.... I miss it....
All that elegance and grace are lost in today's women's gymnastics. Quite unpleasant to watch really as the routines have become too athletic and focus on difficulties as opposed to artistry and flow.
I still hold the view that the landing of the punch front to one leg in her second tumble run, where her rear hits the ground as she lands with one leg bent, should have been a .3 deduction. How history could change if the FIG judges would only take deductions for obvious faults. I still like this floor routine though.
Aurelia Dobre was a great and captivating gymnast! She was incomparable at the World Championships while Daniela Silivas was wonderful but errant. Yelena Shoushounova was questionably overscored throughout the meet. Aurelia deserved the FX gold with Silivas!
I´d gladly swap this performance with pretty every floor routine nowadays, apart from some of the Russian and European competitors who still have grace left
This must be why Elena won Euros, Worlds, World Cup, University Games, and Olympics while Daniela and Aurelia alltogether won one Euros and one Worlds. God, can people be ignorant creating their own reality. Sweet Dreams...
Beautiful feet and legs. She’s pulled up so nicely with lovely arms and hands. I miss gymnastics like this. So expressive and beautiful artistry. Her technique is so clean.
We share the same opinion about Nastia Liukin. I'm not captivated by her. She's a great technician but I don't see anything riveting about her gymnastics. I hope that the sport can be salvaged because you could see the expressions of some of the more artistic gymnasts in Beijing that they have had it. Pavlova looked demoralized and Catalina Ponor opted out of the sport rather than be ridiculed like she was at 2005 worlds where she placed behind Liukin and Memmel on BB.
The fact that's she's in her 40s now and can still do half of this stuff
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Gracie Ahmed you mean all the stuff!!
this girl was so amazing, so charismatic. The 80s were a great time for gymnastics. It's all so boring now.
They call that Golden Age thinking. It's quite reductive. There are so many great gymnasts and such hard gymnastics being done now it's hardly boring, even with all the faults in the Code that need to be rectified.
liv ola you know she's like 3 something and can Still do all this stuff
30 I mean 30 something
liv ola NO ITS STILL AMAZING
liv ola se marcus and lucas
Who new that years later she will end up having 4 children and 2 of them being twins and are UA-cam stars 😱
Texas Hailey ALL
the most braindead stupid and spoiled kids of all time
U mean 5 children
Me
Like......who cares I wonder
so much talent wiped off on lucas marcus darius and cyrus from aurelia
lmao it really didnt. they are pretty talentless.
when gymnastics was called only gymnastics and was as artistic as it could be, now it's called artistic gymnastics and is all but artistic. i miss the old soviets and romanians so much!!!
Very true!
moronero say no more
I so agree with you.
Omg !!you dont mind if I steal this from you (I will obviously quote you).
It was called Artistic Gymnastics back then, it's just that people still had common sense.
Daniela Silivas was an incredibly good gymnast, but AURELIA DOBRE had a little something that goes beyond, she was not only powerful, technically perfect, but so elegant, her elegance was a plus and for me no other except Nadia Comaneci had been so special. So sad she had that surgery in her knee after this competition, otherwise she would have taken the Olympic Gold in Seoul 1988, no doubt, she was the best among a truly terrific group of gymnasts (Silivas, Shushunova, etc).
Actually, to me both Dobre and Silivas had that extra something. Both were extremely charismatic, skilled and artistic. I love Silivas more because she had a longer and more varied career than Dobre.
This is the most beautifully choreographed FX I've ever seen. And the most artistic. If she didn't have that huge growth spurt, she would have won the Olympics AA in 1988 despite the tremedous gymnastics from Silivas and Shushunova. It would have been extremely exciting to see the three of them battled it out in 1988--any of them could have won. But Dobre just grew too fast in one year to keep up. Plus that knee surgury.
withlove312 Dobre would have lasted longer if she didn't have that huge growth spurt in one year. And of course, her knees. IMO, Dobre is the most elegant World class gymnast ever. Only Yang Bo on BB can touch Dobre's elegance on BB.
Vette gaddia Yeah poor Dobre. :( I think Mostepanova is easily more elegant than just about anyone. Her quality of movement was unmatched.Of course, elegance is just one measurement.
withlove312 Yes, and many of the former Soviets are extremely elegant and do the most challenging routines. As for the Americans and the Chinese girls, some of them are pretty artistic too, along with the proper level of difficulty(on at least one event).
Superba!❤ Aurela Dobre!❤ Felicitari !
I remember watching this on ABC and being blown away what this girl was capable of doing. Voinea's Floor was great also. And they had Daniela Silivas. That's almost not even fair. I think Szabo may have been on the team also. Ridiculous talent.
And Eugenia Golea and Celestina Popa.
What a beautiful choreography and music!.
Aurelia you are an artist, good in all apparatus and the most charismatic gymnast at 80´s. We won´t never forget you.
I knew her before I knew the dobre twins! LOL
dame lol
+Pamela Radu same*
Isaac Lepulu eww u old 👴
adiksadiatabs im only 17
Isaac Lepulu eew ur still old 👵🏿
Who ever would have thought she would have twin boys😏😏😂
Dana Donigan she has two other sons also
do any of you guys watch Lucas and Marcus because those are her sons?
Perla Rodriguez yep :)
Perla Rodriguez DobreArmyyyyyy
YAAAAAAAASS
I am like their biggest fan
Hello
I got merch
nara dobre Dobre army we lit
Perla Rodriguez i do and i watch dobre brothers
OMG SHE WAS SOOOO GOOOOD AHHHHH!!! AND SHE STILL IS AHHHHHH!!!! 😱😱😱
man, i miss this type of athlete! exuberant, expressive, not just collecting points to win...
Fabulous stuff! One of the definitive routines of the 80s.
one word. AMAZING. AND she can still do all this at 40 ❤ such an inspiration
Best music choice ever!
You can see Don Peters was in awe watching Dobre perfected her dismount. Dobre had a magical competition here.
+Kevin Nguyen That's Don Peters formerly of SCATS, unless you're talking about the bearded East German coach.
+3Axel1996 Oh, you're so right. That was Don Peters. How did I even come up with the name Greg Marsden? Was Greg Marsden even associated with gymnastics? I'm getting senile. LOL
+Kevin Nguyen He was. He was the team coach this year. Don Peters was just the personal coach for Sabrina Mar.
I love the grace and style these gymnasts had...now all muscles no art
2020? Anyone?
Thanks for posting this. It's one of my all-time favorite floor routines! Aurelia was one of the greats in my opinion. Too bad for her injury leading up to the Olympics.
r u still alive
@@robloxianwolf7969 lol
omg Marcus & Lucas Dobre's mom
I love her grace and beauty. She gave me so much inspiration that I even took the same music for my own floor routine. ;D
r u still alive
absolutely love her!
Amazing gymnast!
Aurelia Dobre's performances were subtle, substantial and sublimely beautiful.
She indulged gymnastics fans around the world with a mixture of impeccable technique and enticing artistry!
This was one AA World Championship that no one could dispute.
r u still alive
Fabulous gymnast loved her stuff ❤
Shes such an inspiration
Beautifully done 😊
İncredible performance👏👏👏
Fabulous routine- she makes the spins and turns look so easy- how many modern gymnasts have we seen foiled by a single/double/triple spin on floor and beam these days?
Also, what a shame she wasn't able to have a longer career! She's easily among the top gymnasts who could have been truly legendary if it weren't for injuries, along with Russia's Ekaterina Lobaznyuk from the late 90s and early 00s.
Ma uit La Tine Si Acum cu Mullllt Drag si Respect ...tu ai o varsta si eu la Fel .
.dar tot aduci aceiaşi Bucurie in a te Privi Cu Respec....ati fost o Generație EXTRAORDINARA!!!
i was 10 in 1987...i have world games 87 recorded in vhs, but only 3 gymnastic routines...Olimpic games 88 i have all recorded and never got tired to watch...88 was the most beautiful gym i have seen...
r u still alive
This has long been one of my favorite FX routines. But oh, I am so glad they did away with that yellow-gold floor carpet. It was hard to look at half the time.
Thank you so much for sharing this. It's great to see the original footage with the commentary. I was just 11 in 1987 and when I hear the original commentary that I saw back then (I must've watched that video hundreds of times!) it's like meeting a long lost friend. Thank you so much for sharing.
best ever
Marcus , lucus , darius & cyrus dobres mum is so talented wow
Olga Korbut, Nasia Comaneci and Aurelia Dobres are the best gymnastics in the history !
I love everything about this but I will say, Goddamn the audience can't clap in time with the music and I hope that didn't throw her off the routine. Shit.
I watch her doing this, and I'm like. "I can't even do the splits... only cartwheels and bridges...
Such a crowd pleaser!!'
Love you Aurelia!
Momma dobre was great back then and still great now❤❤
PHENOMENAL!
The punch front to sitting position is just so beautiful and innovative. Why isnt artistic gymnastics artistic anymore?????
r u still alive
holy crap no joke this is my routine, obviously with a few changes but pretty much exactly the same! :O i had no ideaa LOVE herr.
She is amazing
Lucas and Marcus👑 aye
1987 jeez
Великолепное выступление, даже сейчас смотрится отлично!.
Yes she was. Ludmila Tourischeva was also quite good with dance and difficulty.
Fantastica!!!!
11 days after the video was published was when I was born and it’s weird that me and my crush have the same birthday
Ce frumusete si ce complicate au fost exercitiile la aceste aparate ! Acum mi se par prea simple,cu parere de rau ,īn special la paralele !
Check out the videos of Elena Mukhina. She was poised to be the favorite in the 1980 Olympics until her horrific accident. She was brilliant!
Yes, the punch front to a sitting position was actually a deliberate element. A lot of people thought it was an error!! I love it; its very unique, but yes, I can see why it could be problematic if performed constantly. I never saw her perform it at any other competition other than this one either.
Also, the only other person I can think of who did anything similar was Jana Bieger's beam combination of tuck back somi to sit to an immediate front somi to sit, and she only performed it for a few competitions; the knees have to take a lot of strain, so elements such as these landing where the knees take all of the impact are rare, and are generally performed as "one-off's".
There she didn’t even know she will get so amazing kids wow ❤️... can’t belive this perfect woman excist
Dobre is the perfect gymnast. She's not the best at anything, but she's good at everything, she's the German shepherd of gymnasts, lol...
She has the perfect balance of flexibility, grace, difficulty, elegance, dance, acrobatics, acting, charisma, perfection.
I think that this is precisely where she is number one, being good at everything, she was even good at all 4 devices.
Unforgettable the 1987 world champion.
So sad that today's Gymnastics seem to be soley interested in tumling & tricks. I get that tumling & tricks are an exciting part of Gymnastics competitons but grace, dance, and using the body to express tiring routines is priceless!
Your observations are very generalized.
I was captivated by all 3 gymnasts at these championships but the most riveting was Aurelia Dobre. I acknowledged Daniela Silivas' mistakes and maintain that Yelena Shushunova was overscored.
Shushunova's routines were amazing and difficult but lacked the compusure and impeccable quality of Dobre and Silivas. My critique has nothing to do with her body type. She was impassioned and absolutely perfect in Seoul on FX and various other apparatus.
You are lucky to have her as your coach. Just tell her that one of her admirers from Romania salutes her. All the best.
r u still alive
@@robloxianwolf7969 why wouldn’t I?
@@reclamantul i mean 11 years is so much time
@@robloxianwolf7969 indeed it is :)
@@reclamantul how old were u when you wrote that comment lol
САМАЯ КРАСИВАЯ РУМЫНСКАЯ ГИМНАСТКА!
Dangggg 😯😯
lucas and marcus omfg
Same
É muito legal que ela ainda pode fazer movimentos de flexibilidade e acrobacia anos depois, alguns ginastas não conseguem mais depois de se aposentar.
Thanks rpaulv=)
whos watching this after watching dobro brothers or lucas and marus?
I love your sons Cyrus and Daris and Lucas and Marcus anyway the dobre family is awsome I love every member of the dobre family
Wow Cyrus Darius Lucas Marcus you must be amazed by having a great Olympic Gymnastics family Mum aurelia dobre
Wow cool
Yeah it was great choreography from Dobre. I think everyone knew Romanian gymnasts can dance back then it's just when Belu became head coach that their floor exercsies began to look robotic, with few exceptions like Alexandra Marinescu. They're coming back though with people like Ana Porgras.
Beautifull gymnast x
Once a gymnast always a gymnast she’s now 47 and can do half this stuff still
Bring back the days where dance AND difficult tumbling matched like this. Ana Porgras is very close to this if she can work on her tumbling but nothing that gymnasts are doing these days compares to this.... I miss it....
Well, do you think Shushunova was overscored / Silivas underscored? On which apparatus?
All that elegance and grace are lost in today's women's gymnastics. Quite unpleasant to watch really as the routines have become too athletic and focus on difficulties as opposed to artistry and flow.
Do you Know the name of the music at 00:45 ??
Song at 1:12?
I still hold the view that the landing of the punch front to one leg in her second tumble run, where her rear hits the ground as she lands with one leg bent, should have been a .3 deduction.
How history could change if the FIG judges would only take deductions for obvious faults.
I still like this floor routine though.
Wow didn't know she was in the championship
What was the music from the routine?
genial.
What music it is, please?
Aurelia Dobre was a great and captivating gymnast! She was incomparable at the World Championships while Daniela Silivas was wonderful but errant. Yelena Shoushounova was questionably overscored throughout the meet. Aurelia deserved the FX gold with Silivas!
my spine hurts
lucas and marcus follow in her footsteps
Wow
Lucas and marcus is so lucky
2019
I´d gladly swap this performance with pretty every floor routine nowadays, apart from some of the Russian and European competitors who still have grace left
If only she did this routine in Seoul she would've for sure won
2017??✋✋✋
This must be why Elena won Euros, Worlds, World Cup, University Games, and Olympics while Daniela and Aurelia alltogether won one Euros and one Worlds. God, can people be ignorant creating their own reality. Sweet Dreams...
I agree about Dobre's elegance YET for me personally, she didnt half have a slightly ugly double tuck back!
Beautiful feet and legs. She’s pulled up so nicely with lovely arms and hands. I miss gymnastics like this. So expressive and beautiful artistry. Her technique is so clean.
まるでバレエみたいで、とても素敵
Was she married? If not is dobro her maiden name?
Crafting Lila after she got married with boz (dobre father), she wanted to keep her name
Shout out lucas and Marcus check out their chanel it's their mother... Just like her xx
@MrsShazziePepper1996 Aliya Mustafina preforms a graceful routine
also am i the only one who always looks for lucas and marcus in the comments 😂❤
We share the same opinion about Nastia Liukin. I'm not captivated by her. She's a great technician but I don't see anything riveting about her gymnastics.
I hope that the sport can be salvaged because you could see the expressions of some of the more artistic gymnasts in Beijing that they have had it. Pavlova looked demoralized and Catalina Ponor opted out of the sport rather than be ridiculed like she was at 2005 worlds where she placed behind Liukin and Memmel on BB.