Hey could rot and death have alot more in common than commonly thought Life can be brought in both Romina has half of a centipede, and soemthing comical when she turns into a ball you could say she turns into a half wheel centipede
Why do we assume his legs turned into sea legs? We never see his legs prior. He is always framed such that his legs aren't seen. We also know that all children of Marika are cursed, all of them. So it stands to reason that Godwyn has had his own Outer God curse of sort. Specifivially deathblight. Deathblight seems to predate Godwyn, based on the fact Deathrite Birds have a deathblight attack. It is the Deathroot that is the new thing that has appeared. This isn't my idea, i can't recall where, but this theory and much more comes from another youtuber. EDIT: Garrulous Goldmask is the one i got it from
From what we know, I still like to believe Godwyn was a bro and his murder unjust considering the fact that: 1. Essentially sparing what would be his equivalent of Midir/Bayle, he outdoes us by also founding the Dragon Cult, which houses the most powerful magics in the game. Thus, Fortissax and Lansseax are still guarding his home. 2. Fia is protected by rancor skulls by Godwyn himself, as if she was important to her (maybe his partner in life?). Considering the fact that the Mariners are amongst the oldest gravekeepers (from Charo's Hidden Grove), I like to think that Ranni's stunt evolved those Lost in Death (an older form of death) to the newer Deathroot Live-in-Deaths. What we have now is just a broken man trying to find peace without his soul.
Something interesting, is Malformed Draconic helmet. Its item description, along with the depiction of a long haired, mermaid tailed, man dragon on it, makes me think that this is actually in the likeness of Godwyn. With the stone heart items being introduced in DLC, perhaps Godwyn, too, was able to assume a half draconic form, not unlike the depiction of the one just mentioned. That same depiction also resembles Godwyn's undead body, as it is now. Perhaps Godwyn, in being affected by the soul killing power of half the rune of death, caused his body to go haywire, and trigger his half transformation, or perhaps he was in the process of transforming to protect himself from the Black Knives. Anyways, I always found that Helmet to be important to Godwyn's lore.
Another cool thing. Godwyn's body doesn't lack a soul any more. When Godwyn was buried in the Erd Tree's roots, he not only corrupted the erd tree, but also erd tree burial. Souls can no longer pool into the erd tree. They are obstructed by death root, which revives their bodies. This would be a problem, if not for Godwyn's soulless corpse. It acts as a safe haven for those who live in death. The thousands of abandoned souls have pooled into Godwyn’s corpse, granting them an afterlife with each other. A thousands souls banded together, desperate to protect their safe haven. If you attack the corpse, or Fia, the vengeful souls come crashing out to protect their home. A dead God's body acting as a new after life for souls lost to time. This game never ceases to amaze me.
@theburgerking1236 not really a god of death. He isn't reaping souls, or collecting the dead in the same manor. His body is more like a living Heaven or Hell. A storage for souls. Also, it isn't really Godwyn anymore. Godwyn is gone, all that remains is a living dead cropse. And a god must have a soul
As far as Gurranq's storyline is concerned we gave him ALL of the deathroot in the world. He thinks that is all of the fragments BUT we know it is not. Ranni still has part of it with her corpse and Godwyn's half eventually ends up with Fia. There is a narrative oversight, if we complete Fia's quest and she birth's her mending rune, we should be able to give that too Gurranq and that actually should fix him. It would be cool if we could offer that up as long as it is before we turn in the last deathroot. I find it interesting that the Wormfaces of Altus hang out near the "Woodfolk Ruins" Perhaps prior to Godwyn's burial they were Tree people. Only snag to that is there are no uninfected Woodfolk, Erdtree Guardians maybe.
Yeah but if we gave it tk him, we would not get fias endong which is actially good since it stops deathroot corruption and brings in the rune of death back into the world. But the key principle of the golden order is that there is no death and life is eternal. But for the wormfaces, i want to know more about why they are found in farim azula? You dont just go there like a trip. Sure theres a DTS so there must be some way but still, theres a whole colony of worm faces
@@ShadowProject01 If by Deathroot collection you mean fragments of the Rune of Destined Death, very much so. If you straighten out the brands and line them up they look like a deflated version of the Rune of Death that appears in Malekith's arena. To go further, Ranni stole a fragment of the rune of death. Godwyn and company only got a taste of half of it, the part that kills souls. Ranni kept the part that kills bodies for herself. Gurranq has only been collecting soul-killer fragments. What's more is he's only been chasing the small bits that are just breaking off the larger problem. I find it interesting that Godwyn spawns Those Who Live in Death but I feel like Ranni's side of thing should have made "Those Who Remain" Souls without bodies to offer to the roots. But maybe that is what all the dialogue ghosts are meant to be without directly saying it.
What I don't understand is that the Deathrite Birds actually can cause Deathblight build-up with their shriek, meaning that Deathblight predates Godwyn's death and is a natural element of the LB (as is also evidenced by the Dancing Lion in Rauh). So does that mean that there is a "King of Death" or Outer God to Deathblight? Godwyn is the "prince", ergo meaning the heir apparent.
there is the God of the death birds, the being mentioned in the twin bird kite shield. it might be that Godwyn’s title of prince just means that he has not yet ascended to the same godhood as Marika, who is called Queen. it might be that he becomes the god of the age, and King of death, when the tarnished ascends to lordship with fia’s centipede rune
@@kitteecatt4681 but Deathblight precedes Godwyn, as evidenced by the fact that Deathrite Birds can cause it. They are from an age that precedes even the Erdtree.
It’s possible that the Deathrite Birds being able to spread Deathblight isn’t because Deathblight itself predates Godwyn, but that Godwyn’s corruption and the removal of the Rune of Death caused the Deathrite Birds to gain this ability.
Godwyns spread reminds me of the legacy of Henrietta Lacks, who’s cancer cells were active, long after her death. Just how he is dead in soul, but his body still lives, still changing, spreading and amassing. His death root and pustules, acting like a fungus and a large interconnected network of godwyns flesh.
How nice finally people are understanding the connection between Kegare and Souls games. And about it, just think this: In Dark Souls 1, Solaire says, in japanese, Time is Stagnant. Water, Sea, Dephts... Aldricth...Little bug monsters in the cathedral of Depths...Bloodborne that is literally all about Blood, Death, Pregnancy etc that are great sources of Kegare, and not a case that corruption comes from stagnation too... Damn this author loves this concept. Also, fun fact: Prince, the word, comes from Latin, from Primus, the first. And Godwyn is the """first""" of the Demigods to die, as Nito was the first of the Dead.
As for 13:54 given that these Uprooted are residing near a Lesser Erdtree, they may also be tree guardians who mutated but continued to follow their oath that granted them immortality. They don't seem to harm the tree, they are just miserable
Can you make it more clear that these are re-edited versions of your main channel videos? I see a lot of people in your comments either confused because you don't talk about dlc (because its the original video made before the dlc) or (like me) Get excited because they think it's a new content video and it's not. Mention of the original video is behind the read more where most people won't see it.
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The finger Reader crone in the Deeproot Depths describes Godwyn as shoulding have died a true death as a MARTYR to Destined Death. Things like Ranni's knowledge of the Death Rune, Rykard's agents having access to Morgott's Shackle and the Blasphemous Claw...it is very clear WHO was supporting Ranni ( It was Marika, obviously. You can even see how Miquella was in on it too, intending for Ranni to give the spirit calling bell to Radahn. Possibly even intending for Torrent to end up with Radahn as well, as his former master). The reason for Marika shattering the Elden Ring was to impose a challenge on her children, and as we see...only Ranni and Miquella had ambitions of reaching "Outside the Box". No, I would say that Marika, when she learned what Ranni had kickstarted in only targeting Godwyn's Soul...she sent Mesmer on his way and then shattered the Elden Ring. Sorry for it being slightly off topic xD
I like this idea that the reason why Godwyn's corruption is within stormveil castle is because when Godrick fled from Leyndell, he took treasures and relics with him. With relic also being a term for corpse parts, Godrick may have stolen a piece of Godwyn's remains which then mutated at the bottom of the castle as the room had been covered up in curtains. Since Godrick was obsessed with the golden lineage, having a piece of Godwyn may be a valid point. So these visages which do not look like the actual Godwyn were buried/stolen pieces of Godwyn's corpse. And since there is no other trace of Deathroot infestation except for that face, this might be pretty clear. The growth that has eyes is directly connected to Godwyn or had direct contact with him, while those without eyes have been carried away by some circumstances.
He didnt have to die, she could've targeted someone else. I dont think she or the ever gives us reason as to why she choose to kill him. I will always protect Fia. I wished the DLC did something with him. we have more questions then answers when it comes to him. Always a great video! Hope you had a great weekend. 😁💜💜
The finger reader who is in the same area as Godwyn says he was “supposed to be a martyr.” So he was supposed to die, Ranni only killed half….by giving the Black Knives half
One thing to point out. Godwyn was supposed to be a Martyr. And the Iris of Occultation proves that grace can be granted in two very different ways. Maybe, Godwyn was supposed to undergo the ritual so he could completely shun himself from the light of grace, which would grant him grace in a different way. Just like Mesmer. Which would make Godwyn a "Martyr" for the Shadowy aspects of Grace. So the Erd Tree could finally embrace its more dark and shadowy aspects. But Ranni schemed to prevent this, and the rest is history.
@ This makes me think that Miquella was hoping Godwyn would die a true death. Part that’s the missing part. I would think that after the death of Godwyn, Ranni was also “dead” as far as anyone knew. Including Radahn, Rykard, and Rennala.
Interesting to think about the similarities between deathblight and rot, specifically the way you talk about crossing the boundary between life and death giving way for stagnation and pollution. This immediately brings to mind rot and the pests that spring from it! The way I understand it rot is a process of rebirth in the lands between. Perhaps that is what is happening with death blight, rot is the rebirth of the body while deathblight is the rebirth of soul. They seem too similar as these decomposing slowly spreading forces to not be related in some greater way.
I am almost certain that Godwyn actually did look the way he does when we find him at Deeproot Depths. Every single child that was conceived by Marika was cursed visibly. Odd that Godwyn would be left out of that...
Godwyn's face durectly resembles that of a species of squid, it's unsurprising that we find the face so off-putting. Fits the overall aquatic theme of Godwyn quite well.
It's more headcanon than even theory, but I believe that Godwyn found out about the plot and for his own reasons decided to spring the trap. As a man who earnestly believed in peace (see Fortissax) he could not bring himself to provoke another war by revealing the plot, after which his loyal troops would rally to him. Or perhaps he went along with it to help Marika and/or Ranni (that part of the lore is a whole can of worms on its own) I can also see him offering himself as part of a deal to spare his men (at the time, Draconic tree sentinels and many Leyndell troops) This is just how I feel about this character's motivations. He reminds me of Ned Stark and that, regardless of his ultimate decision he does it for how he sees best for "the realm" , I think him having knowledge of events is more intriguing than "he was the golden boy, now he's dead"
I guess I’m the only one who never found that area below Stormveil 😂 I first saw the Prince of Death in all his horror and glory in the Deeproot Depths. I wept for him as the Finger Crone did, and when the time came to take my throne as Elden Lord I did so to ensure that his people would be persecuted no longer. Im sure I’ll be called a Fia simp but she is basically the only character with an ending you can chose who’s goal is compassion rather than power for punishment or it’s own sake. I think this and the other lord we know of him reflects well on Godwyns character
For an excellent example of Kagare in media. Look up Noragami. It deals with shinto gods, and how humans and human spirits can perpetuate kagare, and even deals with karma, that one's actions and thoughts can pollute gods, and that one must purify themselves to cleanse the corruption.
13:30 If the Shaman were capable of becoming trees, like the "statue" that the golden braid rests on, then maybe the Worm faces are a reverse of this process? It would explain why the big ones smash their faces into the ground out of frustration.
To get away from the fingers and Greater Will, sacrifices must be made. If Godwyn was to live in death, then that was his fate to do so. I mourn for his loss, but he never seemed one for leadership, and as he is now, he'll never be the lord he should have been. In fact, he only reinforces the Greater Will now. A shame for sure as the duskborn have done no wrong. But imo, the unending sickness that is Outer God interference is the more important foe and to resist that fate is paramount to being truely free.
There is no undoing the duskborn as well. They are now a broken and curropted part of the LB. It gave Rani and us possible freedom and doomed Godwyn to eternal entombment, forever death, and being degraded to such a sad state. This is why I always do the duskborn ending and then flip to Rani so we can be done with the broken life and death cycle that the LB are currently cursed with. Being a zombie doesn't look fun. It looks like you're just either unfeeling or forever in horrible rotting pain. The kindest thing to do would be to discard this broken ring and instead follow a new focus. A focus that allows all to be accepted and allows them to be unmolested by Outer Gods. Like Marika wishes.
I've been having two nagging suspicions about godwyn. 1st, was that he and Ranni were set to marry or even that they were in love but their love was forbidden, ala Romeo and Juliet. 2nd I suspect that the eye motif is in reference to the Evil eye of eastern Mediterranean beliefs.
Can someone help me understand this? So the rune of death activates both parts when used? Ranni broke the rune in 2, using her half to kill her body but not her soul. Why couldn't she just use her half n not the other? Do they both activate at the same time when used as they did when they were 1? The conclusion I am drawing is that yes, both parts of the rune activate when used, but noth need be applied in order to work? So, in order for Ranni to kill her body, she would have to kill someone's soul, and what better a target than Godfrey the golden? Is that right? She needed to kill a soul in order for the rune to kill her body??? Can anyone help explain this? Why kill Godwynn if she didn't need to? Or did she? Why Godwynn? Man, so many questions n I am NOT smart enough for this...
I think the DLC may give us some incite into this. The rune of death opposes the rune of life (marika's rune.) But both runes can grant grace. The iris of occultation and grace give us incite into this. If Ranni did not separate the powers of the rune of death, by killing both Ranni's body and Godwyn's soul, then it is very possible that Ranni would merely be granted a different type of grace. That a full ritual, killing body and soul of one god, is really just the total denial of grace, which grants another type of grace. I speculate it's the light of the helphen, grace for dead beings. So she would exchange control from the two fingers for control by some other god. It kinda defeats the whole point of the ritual. Also, we only need both halves of the rune of death if we want to create a new order in the elden ring, which implies that both halves of the rune make a type of grace, just like the perfect rune of mending and seedbed rune. Also, you are plenty smart. You just need to be bold enough to make mistakes, form unique conclusions and say what you think. It's not your intelligence that limits you, but your freedom and creativity. And those 2 things can very easily be improved.
Pretty sure Farum Azula was in the sky before Godwyns death which would make it impossible for deathroot to "spread" there if his corpse is the only reason for it. Maybe it has more to do with the rune of death.
Wasn't Farum Azula cut off and thrown into the sky during the war with the Gloam eye Queen which is why there are Godskin noble and apostles stuck there?
I still believe that Godwyn should have been the consort not radahn. So much is left in the air and it would have been a nice to see/fight godwyn in his prime.
One thing which I never found anyone mention is Death Knight's - Godwyn's bodyguards. Imagine having bodyguards when you're a definition of a Chad. These dudes have a very distinctive halo on thier weapons and helmets. Kinda look like mark of the centipede? Or even like a deathroot itself. It's so weirdly irregular. But attached to a halo. Like it's meant to represent something both holy (or of a God) and Godwyn's nature. Definitely not something belonging to the Golden Order. So... Is that implying that Godwyn had connection to Deathblight before his death? It kinda fits with how Marika's childrens curses. Godwyn might be the most wholesome and carrying of the bunch because he already harbored a horryfing curse. And he probably keeped it under control, because we don't see anything mentioning Living in Death before Godwyn's death. And then Ranni showed up, killed him releasing Deathblight alongside giving Marika a PTSD attack or her former family and friends BEING BRUTALLY MURDERED AND STAFFED INTO JARS. GOOD JOB RANNI! DAUGHTER OF THE CENTURY EVERYBODY! F this blue idiot, selfish thot... Edit: I'm still dissappinted we didn't get more content about Godwyn and Those Who Live in Death. But we needed a incest between brothers and Miqlester feet in 4K I guess...
To the top comment saying Ranni is truly evil... she was the only demigod who didn't immediately try to kill me. Also, imagine what those four hands could do.
Just so she could be a ghost? She has slain the body she was born into was basically controlled by the 2 fingers. lts not making ranni's acts less vile, but emotionally it's still relatable
@ no matter what she still was a vassel of the fingers. She usurped the order with a new one just as they wanted. Hence why the fingers do not stop us from choosing any ending we want. So it was really just so she could be a ghost
@@theredknight9314 the two fingers definitely don't want rannis order. Half the quest is literally direct conflict with them idk why you're being disingenuous about it there's already plenty reason to not like ranni
@@Hekk. worm faced enemies originate from Lyndell per their adorned robes - after the war in the capital, it ravaged the land as you can see from all the pot marks and perfumer bolts - due to the ravages of war, it caused stagnation in the waters around the capitol which, due to the proximity to Godwyns corpse, proliferated deathblight. The worm faces primarily exist not only where one can find deathblight, but also near the particularly horrific parts of Mt Gelmir such as at the base of their tainted Erdtree. This connection between deathblight, ulcerated tree spirits, and war torn areas paints a picture of these creatures likely having been people driven to consume corrupted flesh in the death blighted regions they're located in (including farum azula)
I see what you mean, but the Black Knife Assasins are really strong and every step they take is silent. They snuck up on him like cowards and stabbed him in the back with a daggers imbued with the rune of death. Stolen from Maleketh. Silent invisible enemies with death daggers. 🗡️
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Hey could rot and death have alot more in common than commonly thought
Life can be brought in both
Romina has half of a centipede, and soemthing comical when she turns into a ball you could say she turns into a half wheel centipede
Why do we assume his legs turned into sea legs? We never see his legs prior. He is always framed such that his legs aren't seen. We also know that all children of Marika are cursed, all of them. So it stands to reason that Godwyn has had his own Outer God curse of sort. Specifivially deathblight. Deathblight seems to predate Godwyn, based on the fact Deathrite Birds have a deathblight attack. It is the Deathroot that is the new thing that has appeared.
This isn't my idea, i can't recall where, but this theory and much more comes from another youtuber.
EDIT: Garrulous Goldmask is the one i got it from
I hate Ranni. I swear, the only person she loves is herself (source: my ass).
From what we know, I still like to believe Godwyn was a bro and his murder unjust considering the fact that:
1. Essentially sparing what would be his equivalent of Midir/Bayle, he outdoes us by also founding the Dragon Cult, which houses the most powerful magics in the game. Thus, Fortissax and Lansseax are still guarding his home.
2. Fia is protected by rancor skulls by Godwyn himself, as if she was important to her (maybe his partner in life?).
Considering the fact that the Mariners are amongst the oldest gravekeepers (from Charo's Hidden Grove), I like to think that Ranni's stunt evolved those Lost in Death (an older form of death) to the newer Deathroot Live-in-Deaths. What we have now is just a broken man trying to find peace without his soul.
Something interesting, is Malformed Draconic helmet. Its item description, along with the depiction of a long haired, mermaid tailed, man dragon on it, makes me think that this is actually in the likeness of Godwyn. With the stone heart items being introduced in DLC, perhaps Godwyn, too, was able to assume a half draconic form, not unlike the depiction of the one just mentioned. That same depiction also resembles Godwyn's undead body, as it is now. Perhaps Godwyn, in being affected by the soul killing power of half the rune of death, caused his body to go haywire, and trigger his half transformation, or perhaps he was in the process of transforming to protect himself from the Black Knives.
Anyways, I always found that Helmet to be important to Godwyn's lore.
Another cool thing. Godwyn's body doesn't lack a soul any more. When Godwyn was buried in the Erd Tree's roots, he not only corrupted the erd tree, but also erd tree burial. Souls can no longer pool into the erd tree. They are obstructed by death root, which revives their bodies. This would be a problem, if not for Godwyn's soulless corpse. It acts as a safe haven for those who live in death. The thousands of abandoned souls have pooled into Godwyn’s corpse, granting them an afterlife with each other. A thousands souls banded together, desperate to protect their safe haven. If you attack the corpse, or Fia, the vengeful souls come crashing out to protect their home. A dead God's body acting as a new after life for souls lost to time. This game never ceases to amaze me.
Well said
It seems like in a sense he ascended to godhood in death to become a god of death and stagnation
@theburgerking1236 not really a god of death. He isn't reaping souls, or collecting the dead in the same manor. His body is more like a living Heaven or Hell. A storage for souls. Also, it isn't really Godwyn anymore. Godwyn is gone, all that remains is a living dead cropse. And a god must have a soul
As far as Gurranq's storyline is concerned we gave him ALL of the deathroot in the world. He thinks that is all of the fragments BUT we know it is not. Ranni still has part of it with her corpse and Godwyn's half eventually ends up with Fia. There is a narrative oversight, if we complete Fia's quest and she birth's her mending rune, we should be able to give that too Gurranq and that actually should fix him. It would be cool if we could offer that up as long as it is before we turn in the last deathroot.
I find it interesting that the Wormfaces of Altus hang out near the "Woodfolk Ruins" Perhaps prior to Godwyn's burial they were Tree people. Only snag to that is there are no uninfected Woodfolk, Erdtree Guardians maybe.
Yeah but if we gave it tk him, we would not get fias endong which is actially good since it stops deathroot corruption and brings in the rune of death back into the world. But the key principle of the golden order is that there is no death and life is eternal.
But for the wormfaces, i want to know more about why they are found in farim azula? You dont just go there like a trip. Sure theres a DTS so there must be some way but still, theres a whole colony of worm faces
Hmm interesting. You think the Hollowed Brands are part of the deathroot collection? I never really thought of that. Interesting observation
@@ShadowProject01 If by Deathroot collection you mean fragments of the Rune of Destined Death, very much so. If you straighten out the brands and line them up they look like a deflated version of the Rune of Death that appears in Malekith's arena. To go further, Ranni stole a fragment of the rune of death. Godwyn and company only got a taste of half of it, the part that kills souls. Ranni kept the part that kills bodies for herself. Gurranq has only been collecting soul-killer fragments. What's more is he's only been chasing the small bits that are just breaking off the larger problem.
I find it interesting that Godwyn spawns Those Who Live in Death but I feel like Ranni's side of thing should have made "Those Who Remain" Souls without bodies to offer to the roots. But maybe that is what all the dialogue ghosts are meant to be without directly saying it.
What I don't understand is that the Deathrite Birds actually can cause Deathblight build-up with their shriek, meaning that Deathblight predates Godwyn's death and is a natural element of the LB (as is also evidenced by the Dancing Lion in Rauh). So does that mean that there is a "King of Death" or Outer God to Deathblight? Godwyn is the "prince", ergo meaning the heir apparent.
there is the God of the death birds, the being mentioned in the twin bird kite shield. it might be that Godwyn’s title of prince just means that he has not yet ascended to the same godhood as Marika, who is called Queen. it might be that he becomes the god of the age, and King of death, when the tarnished ascends to lordship with fia’s centipede rune
The dancing lion is right above the scorpion catacombs which has Godwyns visage
@@llab3903 that does not explain why the Deathrite Birds cause Deathblight.
@@kitteecatt4681 but Deathblight precedes Godwyn, as evidenced by the fact that Deathrite Birds can cause it. They are from an age that precedes even the Erdtree.
It’s possible that the Deathrite Birds being able to spread Deathblight isn’t because Deathblight itself predates Godwyn, but that Godwyn’s corruption and the removal of the Rune of Death caused the Deathrite Birds to gain this ability.
"Wow, what are all those heads!?!"
"These are the faces of Godwyn, you must LORE SPECULATE EACH"
"I guess I better get going..."
"Gee, I cant wait to get infected with deathblight."
Godwyns spread reminds me of the legacy of Henrietta Lacks, who’s cancer cells were active, long after her death. Just how he is dead in soul, but his body still lives, still changing, spreading and amassing. His death root and pustules, acting like a fungus and a large interconnected network of godwyns flesh.
How nice finally people are understanding the connection between Kegare and Souls games.
And about it, just think this: In Dark Souls 1, Solaire says, in japanese, Time is Stagnant. Water, Sea, Dephts... Aldricth...Little bug monsters in the cathedral of Depths...Bloodborne that is literally all about Blood, Death, Pregnancy etc that are great sources of Kegare, and not a case that corruption comes from stagnation too... Damn this author loves this concept.
Also, fun fact: Prince, the word, comes from Latin, from Primus, the first. And Godwyn is the """first""" of the Demigods to die, as Nito was the first of the Dead.
As for 13:54 given that these Uprooted are residing near a Lesser Erdtree, they may also be tree guardians who mutated but continued to follow their oath that granted them immortality. They don't seem to harm the tree, they are just miserable
Can you make it more clear that these are re-edited versions of your main channel videos? I see a lot of people in your comments either confused because you don't talk about dlc (because its the original video made before the dlc) or (like me) Get excited because they think it's a new content video and it's not.
Mention of the original video is behind the read more where most people won't see it.
I’ll move it to before the prefold moving forward
I’ll also put a text message at the beginning of any new ones to be edited (after 3 more)
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The finger Reader crone in the Deeproot Depths describes Godwyn as shoulding have died a true death as a MARTYR to Destined Death. Things like Ranni's knowledge of the Death Rune, Rykard's agents having access to Morgott's Shackle and the Blasphemous Claw...it is very clear WHO was supporting Ranni ( It was Marika, obviously. You can even see how Miquella was in on it too, intending for Ranni to give the spirit calling bell to Radahn. Possibly even intending for Torrent to end up with Radahn as well, as his former master). The reason for Marika shattering the Elden Ring was to impose a challenge on her children, and as we see...only Ranni and Miquella had ambitions of reaching "Outside the Box". No, I would say that Marika, when she learned what Ranni had kickstarted in only targeting Godwyn's Soul...she sent Mesmer on his way and then shattered the Elden Ring.
Sorry for it being slightly off topic xD
Based on godwyn lore he seems like he would've been a better consort for miquilla the rahdon.
Smough who?
This guy's infinitely better.
I like this idea that the reason why Godwyn's corruption is within stormveil castle is because when Godrick fled from Leyndell, he took treasures and relics with him. With relic also being a term for corpse parts, Godrick may have stolen a piece of Godwyn's remains which then mutated at the bottom of the castle as the room had been covered up in curtains. Since Godrick was obsessed with the golden lineage, having a piece of Godwyn may be a valid point. So these visages which do not look like the actual Godwyn were buried/stolen pieces of Godwyn's corpse. And since there is no other trace of Deathroot infestation except for that face, this might be pretty clear.
The growth that has eyes is directly connected to Godwyn or had direct contact with him, while those without eyes have been carried away by some circumstances.
Worm faces do like to smash their faces on the ground. Almost like they want to go back in
He didnt have to die, she could've targeted someone else. I dont think she or the ever gives us reason as to why she choose to kill him. I will always protect Fia. I wished the DLC did something with him. we have more questions then answers when it comes to him.
Always a great video! Hope you had a great weekend. 😁💜💜
The finger reader who is in the same area as Godwyn says he was “supposed to be a martyr.” So he was supposed to die, Ranni only killed half….by giving the Black Knives half
One theory is that ranni was supposed to marry Godwynn, sealing her fate under the two fingers
It's theorized that Marika actually conspired with Ranni. Marika despised the golden order and Ranni wanted to get out of being an empyrean.
One thing to point out. Godwyn was supposed to be a Martyr. And the Iris of Occultation proves that grace can be granted in two very different ways. Maybe, Godwyn was supposed to undergo the ritual so he could completely shun himself from the light of grace, which would grant him grace in a different way. Just like Mesmer. Which would make Godwyn a "Martyr" for the Shadowy aspects of Grace. So the Erd Tree could finally embrace its more dark and shadowy aspects. But Ranni schemed to prevent this, and the rest is history.
@ This makes me think that Miquella was hoping Godwyn would die a true death. Part that’s the missing part. I would think that after the death of Godwyn, Ranni was also “dead” as far as anyone knew. Including Radahn, Rykard, and Rennala.
Interesting to think about the similarities between deathblight and rot, specifically the way you talk about crossing the boundary between life and death giving way for stagnation and pollution. This immediately brings to mind rot and the pests that spring from it! The way I understand it rot is a process of rebirth in the lands between. Perhaps that is what is happening with death blight, rot is the rebirth of the body while deathblight is the rebirth of soul. They seem too similar as these decomposing slowly spreading forces to not be related in some greater way.
Wish I could go back to the moment I found that face under Stormveil. That was when I knew Elden Ring had some fucked up shit in store for me
I am almost certain that Godwyn actually did look the way he does when we find him at Deeproot Depths. Every single child that was conceived by Marika was cursed visibly. Odd that Godwyn would be left out of that...
We see his face( at least from above) in the opening cinematic. The fish face happened after. Idk about the fishtail tho
Godwin in Stormveil is my favourite part of the game. The atmosphere is spot on.
Godwyn's face durectly resembles that of a species of squid, it's unsurprising that we find the face so off-putting. Fits the overall aquatic theme of Godwyn quite well.
It's more headcanon than even theory, but I believe that Godwyn found out about the plot and for his own reasons decided to spring the trap. As a man who earnestly believed in peace (see Fortissax) he could not bring himself to provoke another war by revealing the plot, after which his loyal troops would rally to him. Or perhaps he went along with it to help Marika and/or Ranni (that part of the lore is a whole can of worms on its own) I can also see him offering himself as part of a deal to spare his men (at the time, Draconic tree sentinels and many Leyndell troops) This is just how I feel about this character's motivations. He reminds me of Ned Stark and that, regardless of his ultimate decision he does it for how he sees best for "the realm" , I think him having knowledge of events is more intriguing than "he was the golden boy, now he's dead"
I guess I’m the only one who never found that area below Stormveil 😂 I first saw the Prince of Death in all his horror and glory in the Deeproot Depths. I wept for him as the Finger Crone did, and when the time came to take my throne as Elden Lord I did so to ensure that his people would be persecuted no longer. Im sure I’ll be called a Fia simp but she is basically the only character with an ending you can chose who’s goal is compassion rather than power for punishment or it’s own sake. I think this and the other lord we know of him reflects well on Godwyns character
I'm really digging this upload schedule
I'm still peeved that we dont fight his death-ridden corpse.
I love that this same form of corruption is seen in Bloodborne, with the Vermin.
Thank you for these video break downs
For an excellent example of Kagare in media. Look up Noragami. It deals with shinto gods, and how humans and human spirits can perpetuate kagare, and even deals with karma, that one's actions and thoughts can pollute gods, and that one must purify themselves to cleanse the corruption.
13:30 If the Shaman were capable of becoming trees, like the "statue" that the golden braid rests on, then maybe the Worm faces are a reverse of this process? It would explain why the big ones smash their faces into the ground out of frustration.
Love the second chan and the shoutout to homie aesir
Just in time for my lunch break 😁
Cool shoutout to aesir, i loved his explanation of kegare on sinclair lore's podcast
To get away from the fingers and Greater Will, sacrifices must be made.
If Godwyn was to live in death, then that was his fate to do so.
I mourn for his loss, but he never seemed one for leadership, and as he is now, he'll never be the lord he should have been.
In fact, he only reinforces the Greater Will now. A shame for sure as the duskborn have done no wrong.
But imo, the unending sickness that is Outer God interference is the more important foe and to resist that fate is paramount to being truely free.
There is no undoing the duskborn as well. They are now a broken and curropted part of the LB.
It gave Rani and us possible freedom and doomed Godwyn to eternal entombment, forever death, and being degraded to such a sad state.
This is why I always do the duskborn ending and then flip to Rani so we can be done with the broken life and death cycle that the LB are currently cursed with.
Being a zombie doesn't look fun. It looks like you're just either unfeeling or forever in horrible rotting pain.
The kindest thing to do would be to discard this broken ring and instead follow a new focus.
A focus that allows all to be accepted and allows them to be unmolested by Outer Gods.
Like Marika wishes.
Henrietta Lacks Cells
Refuses to elaborate further
The stick in the hand of the wormface is a signifier of priesthood, in Shinto.
When I first found that face under Stormveil I was disturbed but I couldn’t look away.
The wormfaces being labeled deracine is also interesting, given Fromsofts VR game.
Godwin’s giant sized blowhole is the creepiest aspect about Mr. Water dragon
I've been having two nagging suspicions about godwyn. 1st, was that he and Ranni were set to marry or even that they were in love but their love was forbidden, ala Romeo and Juliet.
2nd I suspect that the eye motif is in reference to the Evil eye of eastern Mediterranean beliefs.
Can someone help me understand this? So the rune of death activates both parts when used? Ranni broke the rune in 2, using her half to kill her body but not her soul. Why couldn't she just use her half n not the other? Do they both activate at the same time when used as they did when they were 1? The conclusion I am drawing is that yes, both parts of the rune activate when used, but noth need be applied in order to work? So, in order for Ranni to kill her body, she would have to kill someone's soul, and what better a target than Godfrey the golden? Is that right? She needed to kill a soul in order for the rune to kill her body??? Can anyone help explain this? Why kill Godwynn if she didn't need to? Or did she? Why Godwynn? Man, so many questions n I am NOT smart enough for this...
I think the DLC may give us some incite into this. The rune of death opposes the rune of life (marika's rune.) But both runes can grant grace. The iris of occultation and grace give us incite into this. If Ranni did not separate the powers of the rune of death, by killing both Ranni's body and Godwyn's soul, then it is very possible that Ranni would merely be granted a different type of grace. That a full ritual, killing body and soul of one god, is really just the total denial of grace, which grants another type of grace. I speculate it's the light of the helphen, grace for dead beings. So she would exchange control from the two fingers for control by some other god. It kinda defeats the whole point of the ritual. Also, we only need both halves of the rune of death if we want to create a new order in the elden ring, which implies that both halves of the rune make a type of grace, just like the perfect rune of mending and seedbed rune.
Also, you are plenty smart. You just need to be bold enough to make mistakes, form unique conclusions and say what you think. It's not your intelligence that limits you, but your freedom and creativity. And those 2 things can very easily be improved.
@borisdragosani7584 what an interesting and kind reply. Thank you. I appreciate you.
1:39 hey don't be rude, his doing his best down there! 😜
Pretty sure Farum Azula was in the sky before Godwyns death which would make it impossible for deathroot to "spread" there if his corpse is the only reason for it. Maybe it has more to do with the rune of death.
Wasn't Farum Azula cut off and thrown into the sky during the war with the Gloam eye Queen which is why there are Godskin noble and apostles stuck there?
I still believe that Godwyn should have been the consort not radahn. So much is left in the air and it would have been a nice to see/fight godwyn in his prime.
One thing which I never found anyone mention is Death Knight's - Godwyn's bodyguards. Imagine having bodyguards when you're a definition of a Chad.
These dudes have a very distinctive halo on thier weapons and helmets. Kinda look like mark of the centipede? Or even like a deathroot itself. It's so weirdly irregular. But attached to a halo. Like it's meant to represent something both holy (or of a God) and Godwyn's nature. Definitely not something belonging to the Golden Order. So... Is that implying that Godwyn had connection to Deathblight before his death? It kinda fits with how Marika's childrens curses. Godwyn might be the most wholesome and carrying of the bunch because he already harbored a horryfing curse. And he probably keeped it under control, because we don't see anything mentioning Living in Death before Godwyn's death.
And then Ranni showed up, killed him releasing Deathblight alongside giving Marika a PTSD attack or her former family and friends BEING BRUTALLY MURDERED AND STAFFED INTO JARS.
GOOD JOB RANNI!
DAUGHTER OF THE CENTURY EVERYBODY!
F this blue idiot, selfish thot...
Edit: I'm still dissappinted we didn't get more content about Godwyn and Those Who Live in Death.
But we needed a incest between brothers and Miqlester feet in 4K I guess...
Ranni freed is from the cycle of a corrupt divine power. Ranni was not evil.
All those eyes. Could Godwyn be a "Blood Raven" nod? 🤔
To the top comment saying Ranni is truly evil...
she was the only demigod who didn't immediately try to kill me. Also, imagine what those four hands could do.
Ranni's doll body has 4 arms. Thats the key.
Proof that Ranni is truly evil. Not only did she do this to godwyn but she doomed the whole world just so she could be a ghost.
Yeah, but simps gotta simp.
But blue wife tho
Just so she could be a ghost? She has slain the body she was born into was basically controlled by the 2 fingers. lts not making ranni's acts less vile, but emotionally it's still relatable
@ no matter what she still was a vassel of the fingers.
She usurped the order with a new one just as they wanted. Hence why the fingers do not stop us from choosing any ending we want.
So it was really just so she could be a ghost
@@theredknight9314 the two fingers definitely don't want rannis order. Half the quest is literally direct conflict with them idk why you're being disingenuous about it there's already plenty reason to not like ranni
Worm faces were Lindell citizens who cannibalzied death blighted corpses
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@@Hekk. worm faced enemies originate from Lyndell per their adorned robes - after the war in the capital, it ravaged the land as you can see from all the pot marks and perfumer bolts - due to the ravages of war, it caused stagnation in the waters around the capitol which, due to the proximity to Godwyns corpse, proliferated deathblight. The worm faces primarily exist not only where one can find deathblight, but also near the particularly horrific parts of Mt Gelmir such as at the base of their tainted Erdtree. This connection between deathblight, ulcerated tree spirits, and war torn areas paints a picture of these creatures likely having been people driven to consume corrupted flesh in the death blighted regions they're located in (including farum azula)
Could you please please please do a video about the walking Mausoleums? I need to know more about them any who the demigods inside them could be
If we get another DLC you think we’ll fight some aspect of Godwyn?
Jagged Head Fish God!
Beware the realm of the Helpen, the land of the true dead.
Those Who Live In Death and Those Who Die In Life.
This game looks x 10 better on a desktop .. turn up graphics it's breath taking
One minute ago is tantalising
My question is: This guy went to war with dragons, but he couldn't fight off some black cloak riders? I mean seriously. 😂 Godwyn the golden turd.
I see what you mean, but the Black Knife Assasins are really strong and every step they take is silent. They snuck up on him like cowards and stabbed him in the back with a daggers imbued with the rune of death. Stolen from Maleketh. Silent invisible enemies with death daggers. 🗡️
@@Randobando1 Well when you call them Silent invisible enemies with death daggers.. yeah, that'll do it...😂
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Day 9 of asking for the channel name to be changed into orenstville
I hate Ranni
Bro i hate ranni and miq they ruined the lore literally
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Methgroot
Nacre farm.
Damn, less than a minute ago
13 minutes ago is emasculating