Just a tip from me, if you ever feel like you’re going to vomit while SCUBA diving, don’t take your regulator out. This is because it’s instinctive for your body to take a breath after vomiting, just vomit through your regulator. You can just purge it afterwards. This tip probably saved my life, whilst I was diving at around 45 Meters, I started vomiting uncontrollably, if I didn’t know this tip. Only god knows what would’ve happened. Regards- A Fellow Diver.
It's true and it's easy. I've gotten sick on 2 of the 6 dives I've done. Once was in the pool for my certification. Just keep the reg in, it will be fine. Not sure why I get queasy diving...I love the water and have been a certified lifeguard, and I'm an excellent swimmer.
@@penguin12902 you get queasy because of compressed air “forced” into mouth causing gag reflex. Also your mouth is kept open by the reg. on a bad day…… vomiting.
@@Slachmal It's so weird...because I feel sick mostly at the end of my first dive of the day...and on the boat when I'm back on the surface in between dives. Then when I go down for the 2nd dive it clears up and I feel fine, and I'm good the rest of the day. I've never been deeper than 20-25 feet so it's not a deco issue, we do safety stops as well.
By the way... Why is everyone so condescending? Yes, this woman was obviously a noob and she freaked out when her mask filled. Is everyone that commented on this willing to go on record saying they never had 1 instance where they messed up when they first got their card? I've been certified for 20 years and can still remember my first few noob dives. In fact I remember doing a rapid ascent on my very FIRST 20 meter dive due to my mask filling. I had cleared it flawlessly during certification, but still managed to get anxious enough to ascend. Maybe some ppl who have commented here were perfect their first few dives. I certainly wasn't.
This was exactly what happened to me on my very first OW dive. I was having issues with my weight belt staying over my hips (wasn't tight enough) and with a constantly filling mask (crappy resort equipment) and I ended up coughing and choking on water and doing a very unsafe rapid ascent because I thought I was going to die. It was very scary.
Xpert Gaming I did a rapid accent on my very first dive when I was Comming up when I accidentally pressed the inflate button on my bcd instead of the deflate button, never made that mistake again 😂
It's not the point wether everybody was perfect their first time, the point is if you can't clear your mask without freaking out you should not be able to go diving with scuba gear, period. Especially at depths like on video. I just got my certification with PADI and I am no expert but through the few dives I have taken I had to clear out my mask periodically. There is no perfect mask, and the water will sip through, the mask will fog up or whatever. Sometimes you'll have to take it completely off and clear it if it is fogged up. Freaking out about something so trivial is a big no no, what if there is a more serious situation, that person will put to danger not only herself but even her dive buddy.
Hi have been diving in Montego Bay for two years now. I think panic is natural in uncertainties but the dive master did a great great job. He was in focus of all his divers along the journey and stayed with the one he assess to be more in stress. Great dive master!
Not really. He never ask for air. He just ask if everyone is ok. The woman is clearly beginner and he go dive away from here. He should have stay with her. The "instructor" husband is not an instructor. The guy have zero skills. The instructor of the group is really bad from start to end. This is not how you lead a group where there is a newbie. The video is a good lesson to teach what not to do underwater (like, leaving the group to go in front of the group). What would also happends if there is a problem on the two divers behind ? They are way too far from the group.
I was in a similar situation when I started diving too but not this deep. I was okay with mask clearing before during practice but idk why that time I just somehow couldn’t clear my mask and I panicked my body panicked but I calmed myself down telling myself hey breathe thru the regulator you are FINE. You won’t die. Just breathe. it still took a while for my breathing to become normal again. It just felt like my lungs couldn’t get enough oxygen and I was suffocating but I was just panicking. And my instructor was very good as well he held on to me tight to let me know everything was okay although I can’t see or hear and to be in that situation was pretty scary. Now I’m just going to keep practicing my mask clearing in the pool before I dive again. I feel like no matter how well you are at doing your basic skills you cannot be complacent there are still times when you can panic but the most important thing is to be able to calm yourself down and think properly. That is the most important skill to master.
Sometimes, that feeling of "I'm suffocating, I cant get enough air!" Is caused by something. I found in my first and only case of that, what happened was as I went deeper (100') I wasn't as focused on buoyancy. The lack of air in my bcd caused me not to exhale all the way (so I wouldn't sink like a rock). The un-exhaled air sitting in the bottom of your lungs (air will sit in layers in your lungs) will become carbon dioxide saturated, even though there is fresh air getting in. This saturation will trigger the suffocation sensation in your brain. Focus on good buoyancy and you may find this will eliminate that problem. After realizing my problem, went to 120 ft with no issue. Happy diving!
Controlling your water nose reflex (diving reflex) is like the most essential skill to stay calm in a situation like that. The problem is not the mask being full of water. It actually is a natural instinct every mammal has. If your nose touches the water you literally can't breath because evolution created that instinct to protect us from breathing in water in drowning situation. So you completely have to fight off your natural survival instinct. It is really hard and pretty natural actually. I trained on it a lot with a snorkel in a pool you don't need to dive to train on it. Just try to breath trough a snorkel with face underwater and no mask in a pool. Im in control of my instinct now and can take off my mask completely without any inconvenience in breathing but yes it was a long way. Stay safe ! :)
A long time ago, I was adjusting my face mask UW & it flooded. I held my breathe & I felt a tinge of panic. I concentrated on continued breathing while clearing my mask. I remembered what I was taught at that moment.
Yes, this should be pretty natural ( no mask or flooded mask diving, if you are diving to these depths. If not, practice this while in a pool or shallow water until it feels like no big deal. And the dive master did do well
lel, I was diving once and never even got any instuctions. around 20ft down my mask was accidentally pushed of by a friend but instinctively I corrected it
You should not be taking noobs to these depths, it is obvious from her body language and method of movement in the water, that she is not experienced enough for this level of diving.
Yes, development/practice skills at 30' max. not 80'. Agencies like PADI certify you to 60' but they should encourage the new divers to progress to that depth. I'm sure that 3 min stop felt like an hour for that poor women.
Thank you! It takes a little bit to get used to diving with the go Pro on my head. I will eventually be posting the other 4 dives we did during our stay. Also will be posting more dives locally on Lake Ontario soon.
I qualified as an OW in January and have not dived since I am going to find a club and talk to them about doing some skills refreshers as I want to go diving again haha
She (they) should have asked for their money back. The dive outfit is clearly a complete pirate operation, those people should not have been allowed to dive.
@@mononoko111 It's common in tourist area to see people going to dive with pool short & stuff. It's completely stupid. When you see someone dive with pool short, just don't dive with them. They are newbies tourist who never dive.
@@Sombre____ well I don´t think that the fact that they are not wearing wetsuits makes them bad divers. They are bad divers because they have not been properly trained and clearly have very little experience. I found it specially scary to read the description that one of those numbnuts is a PADI instructor...I find it hard to believe.
@@mononoko111 Yeah but usely, it's the case. In touristic area, everytime someone don't wear suit, you have a lot of chance than it's a newbie. But yeah, the most scary is to know than a PADI instructor act like a vegetable. I feel bad for the people who dive with him.
Yeah, I've been diving for 25 years. Did my Divemaster course 10 years ago. On my first dive I was still a rowdy teenager always looking to see where I can push the limits. My brother and I snuck away from the group on our first open water qualifying dive after we completed our skills and we went off the reef to the sandy bottom to see how deep we could go... hit 28m. The instructor then found us and he was pissed. Told our dad who preferred to go fishing rather than diving. He threatened not to accredit us, but we scored near full scores for everything on the course but for that 'incident' so he passed us in the end. After many dives with several different large scuba clubs and many divers and have witnessed many open water qualifying sessions I'll say this - there are waaay too many people with scuba C-cards that really shouldn't be anywhere near the ocean. The diving industry is far too dependent upon qualifying as many Open Water divers as they can possibly shift on through. This lady was lucky that this happened on a dive that was essentially like diving in a deep swimming pool on that day with a good DM and her husband right there. The schools qualify people in placid tropical waters and the new OWs may even think that they're golden... until they try a drift dive in low-vis waters with swells overhead that make the needle on your depth gauge move up-and-down-and-up...all dive long and you have to pay attention to avoid the current smashing you into sharp rocks, urchins or fire coral. Yeah, qualifying as an OW diver should involve more supervised diving over longer periods of time with more exposure to various situations like shore entries over rocks into surf for example. This is something that takes experience and skills that are often counter-intuitive. On my first shore entry over rocks through pumping surf I got my timing wrong and the ocean spat me out like a piece of chewing tobacco. I lost a fin and the rocks cut a large hole through my wet suit which then let the frigid Atlantic Ocean water in to cool me down to a shade of pale blue. Scuba diving can be both placid and very challenging and dangerous and your typical OW diver nowadays is not equipped for the spectrum of what they are supposedly qualified to face.
Description says her husband (an instructor himself) pushed her into doing something she wasn't comfortable with. Of all people, he should have known better!
I was just certified last weekend and one of the things I've thought about since is practicing skills I'm uncomfortable with. For me, the main skills are no mask breathing and mask removal and replace. You can see the diver without a mask pinching her nose. If she was comfortable breathing with her nose exposed, she could use that hand for other things. Also shows the value of having a spare mask.
Practicing skills on a regular basis is important. I dive every week and I always try to practice something. Mask removal, SMB deployment... My spot is covered in fishing lines. Yesterday my buddy got caught by a fisherman's hook. Always carry two cutting tools, just in case (on this video obviously it would be necessary). But overall you see how bad they are as occasional divers. 20m in less than 130 bars left for the Lady in white and I think she's doing ok compared to the others. They suck on their tanks like vaccuum cleaners because lack of practice and skills... Hopefully it's 10 to 15m there so they should be alright...
I was 11 and on a dive in Mexico, the yucatan peninsula and my mask had cracked and started filling, i felt panic and wanted to go to the surface however, stayed on the floor and pulled a spare mask from my BCD, replaced the mask and continued the dive. Now I'm 13 and still loving diving. It's not for everyone though.
Thomas Aucott I'm impressed that your Dad had the foresight to see that you were equipped w/ a spare mask. Kudos to you for having the skill set and presence of mind to use it.
Socially interactively nice where three of the are holding hands along a bit of the dive. I presume the scuba diver in front is the instructor / diver in charge. I mainly enjoy this with the instructor and the diver we're mostly watching.
There is so muck kicking going on in this video ... I thought I was watching a soccer match. People need to slow down and relax a bit. Great Quality on the video though thanks for posting it, what were you shooting with?
Noticed the dive guide was sticking close the the woman who panicked. At points he is holding her hand. Probably felt something was wrong before they even started the dive. He did a great job.
no he didn't, you don't start a dive going that deep with someone panicking without mask or even with someone not comfortable at the begining of the dive. Hopefully he seems to have good skills, indeed.
He held her hand while they were still at the surface. He knew she did not want to dive, she seemed very uncomfortable at the surface; but he left all his training and basic common sense in his wallet. She looked like she wanted to bolt to the surface. He had to stick close to her, Luckily, between her husband and him, they were able to make a controlled ascent.
Absolutely not. She was clearly uncomfortable on the decent and should have never been brought down to the depth. The fact some of the people are descending vertically like that suggests they don't have a lot of experience and maybe no advanced training. No idea why her mask is off like that.
You're always going to have a noob here and there who can't clear their mask... I think the most notable point of this video is how it was handled. The DM was very attentive, especially to the first 2 divers, most likely because of their experience level. So when trouble arose, he was Johnny-On-The-Spot with attending to the panicked diver in a calm and controlled fashion. And he still maintained continual communication with the other divers... Even when bringing everyone to the safe-stop. I bring this up because I just watched a video where a DM shared his air with an airhog at 100' and continued the dive! That DM should be getting lessons from this DM! This is a perfect example of how to handle a common situation at depth... I use the word situation (not emergency) because this DM did everything right and PREVENTED it from becoming an emergency.
+Xpert Gaming Thank you for you honesty on 1st comment. I myself had same problem and it made me very aware and sympathetic to my Students. Finished my diving career as a P.A.D.I M.I. So the D.M. was leading the Dive ? I watched and thought it was the Instructor leading. Was the Instructor Filming ? If so he needs to look a video again and see what he did wrong. What training agency was it ? Free decent no visual aids i.e. no line ? P.A.D.I. Open Water Dive 4 has that if I remember correctly (please correct if wrong). Looking at the video a few times looks like the student didn't loose mask but took it off. That's what confused me. Looked like they were doing a drill (Mask R&R). but in a hover and at depth ? Anyway I've had worse with certified experienced divers. S.A.F.E Dive and blow bubbles (not M.J's Monkey).
+The_Black_Rose The person leading the dive was the DM. The PADI OWSI was in the red shorts, and was diving recreationally. This was not a instructional dive.
As a dive instructor I think that mask clearing and or removal is one of the more difficult skills for some divers to master. People more comfortable in the water have less trouble with it. The other skill that come mostly with practice and time is bouyancy control.
I never had troubles opening my eyes underwater, at the pool or at the sea and I'm really comfortable with this idea so I can't wait to try this exercise ! ^^
@@shizukagozen777 Hello, just take your time and learn all steps. I taught diving and mask removal was one of the most difficult for people to learn, clearing when put in place while underwater. I always taught to put the mask on and push by the nose so the air went out by the forehead. Neutral buoyancy is the next hardest. When you do this it is best to breathe slowly and regularly. When you are good at it in the pool or still water you will see yourself go up and down as you breathe. Spend time with legs crossed and arms across your chest, breathe in and you will rise slightly and when you exhale you will sink slightly. Practice your skills in a controlled environment and become comfortable with your equipment and skills before going out in the ocean. This is my best advice. Do not rush into open water diving until you are comfortable. Never go into a cave or a sunken ship without proper training. Many people have lost their lives diving beyond their abilities and it is not worth it. Best wishes and I hope you enjoy diving because it is a different world down there! Cheers from Florida!
@@bjbrown Sorry I'm not trying to show off but I grew up near the sea for almost 20 years and I'm like a fish (nah, a mermaid ! 🧜♀️😗🤣 jk) in the water. I always hated masks, diving googles and even more snorkels so I have always been used to opening my eyes underwater and holding my breath and I honestly don't get why people can't deal with water in the eyes. 🤷♀️ And about the buoyancy, I learned it by myself when I was a kid, that's how I can float at the surface almost without swimming which allows me to stay in the water for several hours without getting tired, or to dive without swimming. That's also how my cousin and I could play underwater miming game. Lol I did my first dive a few days ago (only 6 meters, that's the law here) and we did the breathing exercise with the mask (up and down), but without the water inside, and it was super easy. I have no doubt I will be able to remove the mask and to put it back without any trouble, I wanted to try it during my first dive but I forgot to ask... Even removing the regulator and putting it back was easy. One of the instructors even thought I already went scuba diving and that I was here for the 20 meters training so he was surprised. Both of the instructors told me that I should come back for the training as soon as possible since I'm very comfortable in the water. Unfortunately, I don't live near the sea anymore and I had to leave 2 days after my first dive. I still have 3 weeks of holidays so I'm just thinking about going back because I don't know when I will be able to do it especially since I'll very probably lose my job because of that damn COVID so I don't know when I will have my next holidays... Anyway. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long comment to give me advices, that's so nice of you but don't worry, I'll never take risks and do something I'm not capable of and since I have submechanophobia (I know... LOL), swimming near a sunken ship is a big NO for me, even though I was extremely comfortable swimming near our boats, I felt absolutely no fear, only an intense excitement. While everyone was on the boat since a while, I stayed on my own in the water and when it was time to go, I didn't want to leave. Lol Thank you, best wishes to you too ! Yes, I did enjoy diving very much, it was just magical ! Cheers from Paris, France ! ^^
@@shizukagozen777 I know you are just getting the point across that you are comfortable in the water, but maybe a little more humility would serve you well. I was in the US Navy and have been around water all of my life also, I am 54, and let me tell you one thing I know for a fact. As soon as you get to comfortable or complacent or cocky, mother nature will bite you in the ass and could make you pay for it big time. There is an inherent danger when you feel so comfortable with something like the ocean because you let your guard down and the next thing you know you are in the shit. Anyone at any level can slip up and then go into panic mode. Always keep learning, you can never know everything about diving or feel comfortable with every situation, I don't care who you are.
+Steph Grace Even though this is one of the first skills everyone should or does master, sometimes panic overwhelms common sense. Then it becomes one of the most difficult tasks because she wasnt thinking reasonably.
+Ryan Conley I panicked the first 30 times I did it! I still panic even now, but I just remember that I can still breathe through my reg. It takes a long time to master, but before you go out by yourself with a buddy, all skills should be up to standard. Otherwise there is always an option to go with a divemaster.
@@jasonharrold6686 Absolutely agree..I got certified in 1993...have about 20 dives total. My BF wanted to get certified so I just did whole class with him again. I'm PADI and he is SSI so it was great to have the refresher and to have both of us know how the other will do, how we work together, etc. Our open dives were in a lake this past weekend and viz was 30". It was not fun. It was a bit stressful. We had a girl freak out on her mask removal and bolt to the top. She didn't complete. My bf and I are going to go practice more in the pool before we head to Kauai in a few weeks.
I was diving today, actually. I descended normally and could not equalize my left ear. I eventually did and was at 50 feet for about 20 minutes. I ascended to do my 3 minute safety stop. After 2 minutes passed blood began pooling up in my mask. I cleared it multiple times but as soon as it was clear it got filled with blood again. I finished my 3 minute safety stop completely blind. As I ascended I patted myself on the back for not panicking. And that ladies and gentlemen, is a sinus squeeze.
One thing I have learned is to equalize intermittently. Once you can tell you need to equalize, it's too late. It is much harder to equalize under pressure. Start equalizing from the moment you get wet until you are at depth and you'll be fine.
I was wondering about the marine life too. I saw maybe two fish? Why do that when there is really nothing to see. I have seen more exciting areas just snorkling.
The young lady with the yellow mask is a natural, calm collected and good hand signals. When it takes two people holding your hand through a dive you might want to opt for something at a lesser depth of just don’t dive. I wish my wife would dive but it’s not her thing and that’s fine I’m not gonna force something it could result in a dangerous situation. Side note: this reef is DESOLATE very sad.
I was in the Dominican Republic not too long ago and there were fresh open water certified divers on board. They kept saying they were 'real nervous' and that should have just been a flag. They got under water, the girls mask started flooding and she panicked hard. She then bolted to the surface and then had to be treated with O2, blowing the whole dive for the group. Needless to say, I was pissed. Now I'm almost hesitant to dive with anyone with no experience.
Sh*t happens even with experienced divers. You sound like someone who lacks empathy. This is why I think PADI certification sucks in several ways while compared to NAUI: people do not learn how to deal with certain situations not to mention that they get certified right after completing certain skills instead of going through a more demanding process of evaluation for so.
@@gigagewahya2013 no they arent. They should be clipped to a d ring or affixed some other way. Only open water students let them fly around. The purpose is to streamline, avoid damaging sensitive marine ecosystems, and ensure it is always easily accessible.
Sometimes that isnt an option. I agree it would be nice to have people comfortable around water, but sometimes that isnt an option. I do believe any shop which operates needs to make sure each skill is mastered before moving on and the person is completely comfortable with doing them.
Think i have had this issue too.. reason why i have quit. It wasnt making me comfortable in deeper waters. I am still somewhat interested in divings in holidays, but yea
I think her husband should had taken her on some shallower dives before hitting this depth, this is why a good instructor will make you keep practicing until you are comfortable.
How's a second mask helpful if you don't know how to clear it? We can see her or the DM taking her mask off after she started panicking and then the DM trying to put it back on or help her clear it, which ofcourse doesn;t work because she doesn't know how to clear it.
@@KimonFrousios A second mask is helpful when your instructor constantly tests his divemaster students by ripping their masks of, dropping their weightbelts and opening their dry suits.
Learning to dive and keeping the mask clear and clear of water is something that needs to be practiced especially in cold water. You develop techniques that work and need to practice them. I always like to keep a little water in the mask to swish off the condensation that builds to see clearly. Without a mask you're not totally blind of senses, up would be feeling and following your bubbles. Practice with your eyes closed. Let go of your regulator and see if you can find them back into your mouth. All these simple things need to be practiced with a safety diver watching. More so in high stress environment like in kelp or cave. Know that no matter how experienced you are Sh_t can happen. Your only saving grace is a cool thinking head and not cross over to panic land towards death.
In my college, we have diving club, there's a rule that before each dive we have to do at least 10 scuba training in pool before the actual dive, no exception.
I already know i have depth issues (never dived but want my cert) I would be happy as a clam just hovering a few feet below water, no drive at all to go down 30-50 yards scary as hell down there. I like having fast escape options :P
1. no snorkels 2. female diver has too much weight 3. someone pushed her to go past her comfort zone. I can't tell if her eyes are closed which may indicate she wears contact lenses underwater. I use an RX mask. ANY person can become a PADI instructor; it doesn't mean you have the common sense to not push a person past his comfort zone in an activity. I have been using scuba since 1964 and have thousands of dives in many different conditions.
@@ricardomontalban6004 You just cough or sneeze exactly as you would do above water. The only difference is that you would hold your hand on your mask and regulator instead of your nose an mouth. It's the same reflex. You can even vomit trough your regulator. Feeding the fish as we call it.
Agree with posts, the way to practice these skills is in confined water. If you practice in open water keep it relatively shallow. Glad that worked out.
Watch this video repeatedly and still cannot find any 'active panic.' The lady being assisted by the DM/Instructor appears to either have mask problem, maybe coughing or something. But, she is in no panic. A person in panic will be blowing a lot of air and unresponsive. She seems to have problems but she is calm and responding to the DM. However, every divers in this group including the videographer are unstable. Looks more like students in their training OW dives.
Very discoordinated movements with little to no purpose. Complete failure to maintain neutral bouyancy which is evident when you see all those flailing kicks but no vertical movement. She was definitely panicked.
@@nickharris8304 I watched the video again. She actually has no mask! She is pinching her nose to prevent water. During roll entry, none of the divers have one hand to the back of their head to keep the strap from slipping (a mistake). It's good she did not just shoot for the surface. Stay SAFE (Slowly Ascend From Every dive), no more than 9 meters/minute. The divemaster or her buddy should have just went down to retrieve her mask. I believe it is just 10 meters or so as you can still see surface wave, shallow dive, no wall.
That's why I go just snorkeling! I had a fundive in 13 m and when I realized, one mistake and I could die, I started to get panic. I have respect for all the divers!
@@roadboat9216 Most reefs are dead, ocean acidity, rising water temperatures, pollution, and irresponsible fishing. We deserve it. Can't get our shit together to focus on a problem that concerns us all regardless of country, religion, or politics. Why Republicans gotta be so against regulations to fix this issue... Makes me angry and sad when I see the reefs near me.
Diego Smith Sorry Diego, you are so right. Wish that you weren’t. Most of my diving (thousands of dives) was done 20-30 yrs ago. I went last year to the Bahamas and wow! It was totally different. Dead. Very sad. Did a wall dive on Grand Turk. It was a little better than the Bahamas but nothing like it use to be. And our government (USA) is moving backward on everything environmental! Crazy.
@@diegosmith6062 So If I understood right in Your opinion you don't feel positive to suggest to dive in Jamaica Diego ?cause I saw a realy dead reef there, no fishes, really different from Red Sea ! But my question to you and to all is : but that's same scenary in all the Dive sites in Jamaica and in all the Carribean ? Because if you answer shold be positive I will schedule my Next Dive trip in another place...for sure...
I am noob too with 7 dives! recently certified so I am good at depth around 70 feet and i didn't go further because my instructor said not to :-D we were diving 22 meters down on the side of the huge cliff and beneath us its deep and blue but little scary though! I felt that moment was a real adventure and awesome and i never been a jerk underwater! Yes some people dont deserve to be in underwater like this girl! because of her everyone has go abort and i feel sad for the rest of them! I am at bad english anyway
@@Freakschwimmer I think one organization actually certifies down to 50m for recreational diving, but most of them go down to 40m with advanced training for recreational non-tech dives.
Your first cert via PADI only allows to a depth of 18m that's 66ft anything more than that and you need to do the next cert up and even then they will only allow you to do it if you have done a set amount of dives first
I don’t know about Montego but I started scuba diving at Negril Bay in 2006 and at the time the reef was in perfect shape. Hope it still is. As for diving to low for the skill level, many dive bases don‘t go by the rules - which exist for a reason! In the vid the dive master handled the panic situation well, but there shouldn‘t have been such a in the first place.
It looks comfortable, but not advisable. You can get injured easier by marine life or the rocks at the bottom. Also despite the warm water, you are still loosing a lot of your heat with no protection
Im leaving for Mexico in 3 days. Currently have a huge bushy beard. Couple of options. Shave all the way down smooth. Shave only mustache down. Shave small knotch in mustache. Wax mustache. blog.padi.com/2015/12/01/moustache-divers-tips-for-improving-your-mask-seal/
@@CrimsonSkull420 I mean, I have a beard and it´s not such a HUGE issue...Just tighten it correctly (not too much though) and maybe clear it from time to time.
This shows how important the mask clearing exercises really are in the PADI OW course. And why instructors really should be certain that their students master the skill before they get there certification! And on a sidenote, you should try to have your gopro on some kind of tray or stick so you don't get all the bubbles in the video and audio. Also the video tends to be a lot smoother when you hold on to the camera, preferably with two hands.
problem is there are way too many vacation divers that have an open water certificate but actually never dive... They're hopeless in the water. And where the fuck is the lady's mask???
So sad what Jamaica has allowed to happen to their "Reefs". Even their marine parks are deserts, it is still common practice there for people to cyanide or "dynamite" fish. I would not even dive outside of the parks due to the danger of injury and lack of respect by boaters.
It's not just Jamaica, it's our oceans in general. You don't hear it talked about much, but one side effect of pumping so much CO2 into the air aside from climate change is the acidification of our oceans. As the pH drops, the coral dies. As the coral dies, so does the rest of ocean life.
ALWAY"S Have an exit route for a mishap or fail. Part of any safe divers strategy. Experience is key ! I actually go through fail scenarios in my head just about every day. Kinda fun making them up and discussing with other divers.
Daniel Crawford Jamaicans have over fished their reefs. They need better education, and policy for policing. This was in their marine park also! They should look to cozumel Mexico with their marine park. It could be mostly restored within 10 years.
Was about to say the same. Its completley dead at the reef. Its such a shame and sad that this may become international and no future generation will see the beauty of a reef teaming with life.
There’s no way that woman should have been to 80 feet ! I don’t care who was with her too many things could have went wrong. That dive master should have said no ! I would have never allowed that . Glad she’s ok
I'm sick and tired of what is happening to the dive industry, especially with PADI instructors. The water is the deadliest and most unforgiving environment on earth. The condensing of PADI open water certification into two days is a recipe for disaster. At a minimum, a line and float must be deployed behind all dive boats before any divers are allowed into the water so the divers can hang onto it instead of fighting a current. A dive line must be deployed from the dive boat to the bottom so that inexperienced divers can hold onto it while descending and ascending. If you go 60+ feet, you should seriously consider taking a pony bottle. There should be a mandatory five (5) open water dives prior to certification, where in the first two dives descend to 40 feet and just sit there so the can get accustomed to being underwater and take effects of Nitrogen. I have been diving for decades and the one thing I can assure you of is that things will go wrong when you least expect it and will cascade into a full blown emergency very fast.
I lived to tell my first ocean check out dive, PADI! My instructors broke every rule.I was young,dumb,only female.Truly frightening being an asthmatic to boot😱
I see a lot of people judging here because someone is panicking. People react differently and will figure out what works for them. Since it’s their first time it can be very nerve racking.
It looked like a discover scuba dive. Max 5m. What was the guide thinking! There were many signs of nervousness. Im not sure who removed the mask, it's often the first sign of panic but she calmly swims up afterwards which is very unusual. Respect to the lady. Amazingly she delt with the dangerous situation better than her guide
I don't see a panic at all The woman lost her mask and had a momentary freak out but that's far from a panic The video operator should get a double hose reg or a rebreather though - those bubbles in frame of view sure are annoying
No. Unfortunately, in the Caribbean, many dive shops ignore recommended depths. I remember going to 80ft in a discover in Roatan, 85ft in my open water cert in the Bahamas, and 95ft in Jamaica on other people's dives.
Wow. You could have died on that trip. Never dive outside your skill level and im sure this post proves it. Im sure diving at 90ft seems like the same as 30, but when the narc kicks in and it feels like you are drunk underwater scary things happen. I have seen people take their regulator out of their mouth and try and give it to fish because the fish was "drowning". Do yourself a favor and take it slow. Only dive deeper when you have the experience at 60 feet and the classroom experience understanding the effects of deep diving.
Cory R Depends on your certification lol you shouldn't ask this if you've done one. If you haven't then you shouldn't dive alone! (And you wouldn't be able to) what a weird question! o_o
John Llorens I trained to dive in the Military and we got extensive training in environmental conditions. We also in increments built up our skills. Even with the experience you know have I would recommend you still carry out more research and try to prepare in greater detail with your skills. my maximum dive depth was 200 ft. But today i do most of my dives at about 60 ft as a maximum. I tend to favor shallow clear dives.
Came across this vid as im browsing scuba vids just recently passed my open water. Wondered what camera this was recorded on? Only ever used a gopro hero3 but its a relic now and i must upgrade asap 😅
That was a go pro 2 maybe? I used the head mount and have since upgraded to a pole. I wouldnt go to Jamaica. Not to much wildlife. Cozumel has been my go to so far. Red sea might be affordable for uk Best of luck. Cheers!
It is really a terrible sensation. I got in panic at 6 meters... in Egypt and fortunately I could go up and breath. The sound of the bubbles and all the silence around made the panic. I have claustrophobia and wanted to try with an instructor near me.. he knew this and was superlative. Now to see these videos I still feel unconfortable.
don't push yourself. Maybe scuba is not for you. I have a friend who never dived but he is scared a lot just listening to bubble sounds from my underwater video footage.
man, nice looking video~! Thanks - felt I was right there. Great viz - you can see for miles and miles~ I dive out of Boston, where on a good day you can see your fins.
why were they even that deep for an open water certification given that it’s a new diver introduction. the max i went to was 17.2m. 80feet is ridiculous
I hate it when my mask floods too. Bought an Tusa Imprex 3D, it has a valve that's great for clearing the mask but also great for letting the water in. No surprise that mask is gone !! Mask clearing is one the of first skills you learn in a course?
+Pussycatfeathers Go to the 12 minute mark of the video. The person panicking is the one who is blowing tons of bubbles and kicking her feet like crazy. If you watch later in the video (14.4 min), she has completely lost her mask. She is holding her nose with her hands and her eyes are closed (because you can't open your eye in salt water (it stings)). There is a long pause at that point with nothing happening but looking at gauges - That's when they're taking their 3 minute safety stop before surfacing as they had to abort the dive. They were close to the bottom, so I'm not sure why they didn't find her mask.
+Annette Stevens Salinity in tears is approximately the same as in sea water. You can open your eyes in the sea while swimming or diving, I do it all the time and most people I know from diving do it as well! It doesn't "sting" - its not physically but its a mental thing in how comfortable you feel with having your eyes open in water! You can try for your self the next time you're swimming in sea water! @14:32 the lady in the video had her eyes open btw...
It always bothers me when people exceed their limits or allow themselves to be pushed passed their limits. I went on a drift dive in the Maldives in January with a couple who had been roped into getting their AOW right after their OW. We needed to submerge immediately after jumping in and yet the couple paused for a long time to simply get into the water. Furthermore, the woman was panicking within 5 metres of the surface. And when we got to the bottom, they were both thrashing around sucking up air incredibly quickly. They ran out of air within 15 minutes at 25 metres. They did not deflate their BCDs so while we all ascended holding hands, they tanked our ascent rate because their BCDs were filling up like balloons. Seriously, the husband ascended vertically upside down! All of our watch alarms were going off and I was trying my best to slow our ascent. We went from 25 metres to the surface in less than 2 minutes. Near the surface I let go of the group and completed my 3 minute safety stop by myself. I'm not letting that inexperienced bitch (which she is for endangering all of us) put my life in danger. The dive master made SO many mistakes. 1) letting that woman and her husband do a drift dive when they weren't ready 2) choosing a small reef with a strong current 3) Not stopping the dive when she was freaking out at 5 metres or at the bottom 4) Letting their panic send the whole group into an uncontrolled ascent 5) Not addressing their BCD problems earlier during the ascent and 6) Thinking that people who have just finished their OWs are ready for AOWs. Other than that one dive, the trip was fantastic.
tomatodamashi I did a drift dive in Kona - we were down for about 90 mins - one of the best dives ever - It was with a dive master, and another guy doing his last dive to get his master diving and myself (finishing up my AOW)
***** Not all diving organisations have the same rigorous training methods. I learned through BSAC (British Sub Aqua Club) and we did the same sort of thing - clearing mask at depth; rescue dive training (removing someone else's kit at depth) etc etc. PADI are a joke. Do not learn to dive with PADI.
EmptyGlass99 Did PADI do something to you? I wonder due to the fact that you are blaming the entire organization rather than instructors that are dubious. I have met NAUI instructors just as bad. Never met an BSAC instructor so I couldn't say. My experience has always been about the individual not the organization. If you are not aware mask clearing and changing kit in confined water are two of PADI's required skills before moving to open water (there are 22 all told). The instructor in this case should not have put his wife in that position. If she were not certified she shouldn't have been that deep, if she were only PADI OW she should not have been below 60. The dive master did his job and did it well. She and her husband (emphasis on her husband) should have known better.
+EmptyGlass99 i did my open water diving course with padi and the company i did it with did a great job and with padi you do learn all the stuff you listed and more, when some people get panicked they relay on basic training others freak out, just because she freaked out doesn't mean she didnt learn it.
@@EmptyGlass99 really? I learnt with PADI and learning to clear my mask (fully flooded, partially flooded and removing it swimming without it putting it back on and clearing it) was literally the first thing we did! and we did the same thing on pur first open water dive. I think the instructor is far more influential on their students than the school in which they belong.
I did a taster diving course in an indoor pool that was max depth about 5 metres I think. Even just 5 metres feels very deep when you look back up, and when you feel the weight of water on you and your chest. I wouldn't want to push somebody in to going as deep as in this video.
If some one produce a Open Water Certificate to the Dive Master it means it was acquired from someone else, not the Dive Master. His job is to give a tour in a safe environment and protect each member of his group. Regardless of the dept, the absence of fish and a secondary mask, he was in charge and gave assistance to someone who needed help. Further, he maintained contact with the rest of the group who ascended with him. This must mean he gave a Diving Brief before entry and the entire group surfaced safely. Great job Dive Master
Someone's mask filled with water (it happens) they are obviously not well trained and panic set in I did my mask clearing no problem as I knew I could breath still but for some the panic takes over and they breath harder and then try to breath in through their nose (that you can't do) as the mask is over the nose and the mask is full of water until you clear it
Well the people were educated and laws were put in place, but because they are impoverished, they can make money by selling off coral souvenirs they've become scofflaws, and you know coral is symbiotic with itself, if you touch it, it will slowly die. It's too late for Jamaica, the damage is done. Bermuda is a place that does it right, I think every place where the reefs are a draw could learn from them.
Coral are actually very resilient. In the reef hobby we cut them in to tiny pieces and grow whole colonies. Moderation is everything in this case in the wild.
Please Help,,, Which Person had the Panic attack,,,, thou I was not there I could feel the atmosphere slit like a knife,,,, Someone spoilt all the Trip and it could be felt,, Help me out,, please tell me Which one had the Panic attack
well I'll give you my opinion on this I've just attempted the open water course in Malta and I've not had any problems until I got to the mask removal and replacement. now don't get me wrong I know how to do it on paper but 2 different instructors have tried 3 times on 2 different days to get me through it and I can't get my head around it. 1st time i panicked and took water up my nose then almost cleared the mask and fucked it up and had to surface. 2nd time got the mask off for about 35 seconds then felt water on the back of my throat and surfaced, 3rd time tried flooding the mask then forgot to breathe through the regulator and surfaced again! I hold my hand up and say I felt like shit for not completing it so kept going back for another go and failing. I can perform it above water no probs but down there it's a different story. mabe I'll try again some day I've only got a handful of skills to finish but I know another one is swimming with the mask off procedure and not looking forward to that either.
Just finished my open water and going for advanced course in coming weeks. Sounds to me like you're thinking about it too much. You need to practice just holding your breath in a swimming pool and sinking to the bottom without mask or anything at all. The only thing that this skill is testing is whether you can breathe only through you regulator and not through the nose. When you put you mask on, then you take a breath through the regulator and just exhale through your nose ( not inhale) through your nose. I'm sure you'll get it next time, just need to practice doing it in the pool rather than the ocean.
+BigDog thanks man I hope so! I had three attempts on it over 2 days the first instructor was quite "this is how you do it and after everyone else completed it ok I then found out about the swim without the mask wich kinda made it worse as I knew even if i beat the first one there was another bigger one to come!? Mabe I'll give it another bash now I'm back in the U.k who knows!? to be honest I tried to fight the fear but it got to me by the second day. bit of a waste of the whole course too I spose not even completing it after all that money spent.
Try in shallow water (maybe a pool) first and take a deep breath make yourself calm then start by partially flooding your mask so the water goes up your nose but slowly, or trying humming whilst you do it which may keep the water out your nose. I had a bit of a problem with this for a while but if you stay calm and just think as long as the regulator is in your mouth you're fine! Hope this helps
I struggled with mask removal. I went for a shallow dive and just kept flooding and clearing, maybe 50 times. Then as I flooded I pulled the mask away from the front of my face. If I began to panic I was able to easily drop it back in place and clear. I just kept doing this until my breathing remained the same wether flooded or not. Then I pulled the mask off my face completely. Then replace and clear. Just keep doing it over and over, you will eventually wonder what all the fuss was about.
As a subnautica player, the depth in meters looks like rookie numbers, considering that in subnautica with just an upgraded air tank you could go deeper than 100 meters.
At 100m you use your gas 11x faster than at surface level. Also you cannot breathe regular air because you would get nitrogen narcosis or even oxygen toxicity. Oh and I'm not even talking about the several deco stops you would have to do. I also love subnautica but that game is far from realisti
Panic can set in anytime for experienced divers and inexperienced divers, dive master/ guide was there to help but I noticed no one was checking air psi during the dive, at times the group is 20 to 40 feet apart, no in water check that I could see other than a few problems an enjoyable dive
I got 3 questions how do they decend like that , are you not allowed to acend to the surface fast, and how do you now panic bc i feel like if i got ima panic
Just a tip from me, if you ever feel like you’re going to vomit while SCUBA diving, don’t take your regulator out. This is because it’s instinctive for your body to take a breath after vomiting, just vomit through your regulator. You can just purge it afterwards.
This tip probably saved my life, whilst I was diving at around 45 Meters, I started vomiting uncontrollably, if I didn’t know this tip. Only god knows what would’ve happened.
Regards- A Fellow Diver.
DANG! I wondered about that
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It's true and it's easy. I've gotten sick on 2 of the 6 dives I've done. Once was in the pool for my certification. Just keep the reg in, it will be fine. Not sure why I get queasy diving...I love the water and have been a certified lifeguard, and I'm an excellent swimmer.
@@penguin12902 you get queasy because of compressed air “forced” into mouth causing gag reflex. Also your mouth is kept open by the reg. on a bad day…… vomiting.
@@Slachmal It's so weird...because I feel sick mostly at the end of my first dive of the day...and on the boat when I'm back on the surface in between dives. Then when I go down for the 2nd dive it clears up and I feel fine, and I'm good the rest of the day. I've never been deeper than 20-25 feet so it's not a deco issue, we do safety stops as well.
I just watched one panic video, now they are everywhere. 😂
Omg me too
Me too 🤣
Me to
Same
same even though ive been looking into freediving lately
only getting scuba panic vids after one video
By the way... Why is everyone so condescending? Yes, this woman was obviously a noob and she freaked out when her mask filled. Is everyone that commented on this willing to go on record saying they never had 1 instance where they messed up when they first got their card? I've been certified for 20 years and can still remember my first few noob dives. In fact I remember doing a rapid ascent on my very FIRST 20 meter dive due to my mask filling. I had cleared it flawlessly during certification, but still managed to get anxious enough to ascend. Maybe some ppl who have commented here were perfect their first few dives. I certainly wasn't.
+Xpert Gaming Good point
This was exactly what happened to me on my very first OW dive. I was having issues with my weight belt staying over my hips (wasn't tight enough) and with a constantly filling mask (crappy resort equipment) and I ended up coughing and choking on water and doing a very unsafe rapid ascent because I thought I was going to die. It was very scary.
Xpert Gaming I did a rapid accent on my very first dive when I was Comming up when I accidentally pressed the inflate button on my bcd instead of the deflate button, never made that mistake again 😂
It's not the point wether everybody was perfect their first time, the point is if you can't clear your mask without freaking out you should not be able to go diving with scuba gear, period. Especially at depths like on video.
I just got my certification with PADI and I am no expert but through the few dives I have taken I had to clear out my mask periodically. There is no perfect mask, and the water will sip through, the mask will fog up or whatever. Sometimes you'll have to take it completely off and clear it if it is fogged up.
Freaking out about something so trivial is a big no no, what if there is a more serious situation, that person will put to danger not only herself but even her dive buddy.
+ Todd Gilbey, Nice and warm at Stoney Cove isn't it. I qualified there last month and am going to book again for a bit of PPB in September
Everyone in the comment section is a trained Navy Diver, it’s always good to hear the opinion of experts.
Including you
Maybe they are bots
Hi have been diving in Montego Bay for two years now. I think panic is natural in uncertainties but the dive master did a great great job. He was in focus of all his divers along the journey and stayed with the one he assess to be more in stress. Great dive master!
Not really. He never ask for air. He just ask if everyone is ok. The woman is clearly beginner and he go dive away from here. He should have stay with her. The "instructor" husband is not an instructor. The guy have zero skills. The instructor of the group is really bad from start to end. This is not how you lead a group where there is a newbie. The video is a good lesson to teach what not to do underwater (like, leaving the group to go in front of the group).
What would also happends if there is a problem on the two divers behind ? They are way too far from the group.
He took he well past her safety limits, he is lucky he didn't kill her.
How deep were they?! Looks theybare WAY too deep.
Did he take like 4 people on introdive?! DM and school should loose the licenses..
What a complete BS!!
Totally irresponsible and way too deep.
I was in a similar situation when I started diving too but not this deep. I was okay with mask clearing before during practice but idk why that time I just somehow couldn’t clear my mask and I panicked my body panicked but I calmed myself down telling myself hey breathe thru the regulator you are FINE. You won’t die. Just breathe. it still took a while for my breathing to become normal again. It just felt like my lungs couldn’t get enough oxygen and I was suffocating but I was just panicking. And my instructor was very good as well he held on to me tight to let me know everything was okay although I can’t see or hear and to be in that situation was pretty scary. Now I’m just going to keep practicing my mask clearing in the pool before I dive again.
I feel like no matter how well you are at doing your basic skills you cannot be complacent there are still times when you can panic but the most important thing is to be able to calm yourself down and think properly. That is the most important skill to master.
Sometimes, that feeling of "I'm suffocating, I cant get enough air!" Is caused by something. I found in my first and only case of that, what happened was as I went deeper (100') I wasn't as focused on buoyancy. The lack of air in my bcd caused me not to exhale all the way (so I wouldn't sink like a rock). The un-exhaled air sitting in the bottom of your lungs (air will sit in layers in your lungs) will become carbon dioxide saturated, even though there is fresh air getting in. This saturation will trigger the suffocation sensation in your brain. Focus on good buoyancy and you may find this will eliminate that problem. After realizing my problem, went to 120 ft with no issue. Happy diving!
@@ramapalmer5985 thank you
Controlling your water nose reflex (diving reflex) is like the most essential skill to stay calm in a situation like that. The problem is not the mask being full of water. It actually is a natural instinct every mammal has. If your nose touches the water you literally can't breath because evolution created that instinct to protect us from breathing in water in drowning situation. So you completely have to fight off your natural survival instinct.
It is really hard and pretty natural actually.
I trained on it a lot with a snorkel in a pool you don't need to dive to train on it. Just try to breath trough a snorkel with face underwater and no mask in a pool. Im in control of my instinct now and can take off my mask completely without any inconvenience in breathing but yes it was a long way.
Stay safe ! :)
A long time ago, I was adjusting my face mask UW & it flooded. I held my breathe & I felt a tinge of panic. I concentrated on continued breathing while clearing my mask. I remembered what I was taught at that moment.
I think that happens to many people. It has happened to me too, the best thing is to recognize it, calm yourself down and fix the problem.
Yes, this should be pretty natural ( no mask or flooded mask diving, if you are diving to these depths. If not, practice this while in a pool or shallow water until it feels like no big deal. And the dive master did do well
Clearing a mask is easy. Breath into it with nostrils and will fill back up with air, then press it to suction again.
@JASON VOORHEES No, he has disappeared from YT for a while now. Hmmmm? Maybe a shark got him.
lel, I was diving once and never even got any instuctions. around 20ft down my mask was accidentally pushed of by a friend but instinctively I corrected it
Panic starts around 11:55
thanks
@@graememckay9972 your welcome
the hero we need
Thanks for the video! Now I start panicking just by watching underwater panic videos
You should not be taking noobs to these depths, it is obvious from her body language and method of movement in the water, that she is not experienced enough for this level of diving.
I was wondering about that. 80 feet seems really deep for a novice.
They are open water diver max depth for them should be 18 meter
@@saldash3145 Yes, you are right i am a open water diver and i never was deeper than 18 meters. I am going to make my advanced owd this summer
@@saldash3145 Agreed on that. 30m (98ft) are for Advance
Yea, they are complete rookies, I wouldn’t let them step foot in the ocean if it was me.
80 ft is too deep for people with those skills - keep it 30-50 ft
Not even. I'd say 30 at most.
It's the skills that make you safe, not depth.
Yes, development/practice skills at 30' max. not 80'. Agencies like PADI certify you to 60' but they should encourage the new divers to progress to that depth. I'm sure that 3 min stop felt like an hour for that poor women.
Agreed
Confident and comfortable in water are key to diving.👌🏼
Thank you! It takes a little bit to get used to diving with the go Pro on my head. I will eventually be posting the other 4 dives we did during our stay. Also will be posting more dives locally on Lake Ontario soon.
I qualified as an OW in January and have not dived since I am going to find a club and talk to them about doing some skills refreshers as I want to go diving again haha
Yay! Im currently getting certified and plan to dive Lake Erie and Huron!
The other girl is so pissed at that chick 😂😂
She (they) should have asked for their money back. The dive outfit is clearly a complete pirate operation, those people should not have been allowed to dive.
@@mononoko111 I agree
@@mononoko111 It's common in tourist area to see people going to dive with pool short & stuff. It's completely stupid. When you see someone dive with pool short, just don't dive with them. They are newbies tourist who never dive.
@@Sombre____ well I don´t think that the fact that they are not wearing wetsuits makes them bad divers. They are bad divers because they have not been properly trained and clearly have very little experience. I found it specially scary to read the description that one of those numbnuts is a PADI instructor...I find it hard to believe.
@@mononoko111 Yeah but usely, it's the case. In touristic area, everytime someone don't wear suit, you have a lot of chance than it's a newbie.
But yeah, the most scary is to know than a PADI instructor act like a vegetable. I feel bad for the people who dive with him.
Yeah, I've been diving for 25 years. Did my Divemaster course 10 years ago. On my first dive I was still a rowdy teenager always looking to see where I can push the limits. My brother and I snuck away from the group on our first open water qualifying dive after we completed our skills and we went off the reef to the sandy bottom to see how deep we could go... hit 28m. The instructor then found us and he was pissed. Told our dad who preferred to go fishing rather than diving. He threatened not to accredit us, but we scored near full scores for everything on the course but for that 'incident' so he passed us in the end.
After many dives with several different large scuba clubs and many divers and have witnessed many open water qualifying sessions I'll say this - there are waaay too many people with scuba C-cards that really shouldn't be anywhere near the ocean. The diving industry is far too dependent upon qualifying as many Open Water divers as they can possibly shift on through. This lady was lucky that this happened on a dive that was essentially like diving in a deep swimming pool on that day with a good DM and her husband right there.
The schools qualify people in placid tropical waters and the new OWs may even think that they're golden... until they try a drift dive in low-vis waters with swells overhead that make the needle on your depth gauge move up-and-down-and-up...all dive long and you have to pay attention to avoid the current smashing you into sharp rocks, urchins or fire coral. Yeah, qualifying as an OW diver should involve more supervised diving over longer periods of time with more exposure to various situations like shore entries over rocks into surf for example. This is something that takes experience and skills that are often counter-intuitive. On my first shore entry over rocks through pumping surf I got my timing wrong and the ocean spat me out like a piece of chewing tobacco. I lost a fin and the rocks cut a large hole through my wet suit which then let the frigid Atlantic Ocean water in to cool me down to a shade of pale blue. Scuba diving can be both placid and very challenging and dangerous and your typical OW diver nowadays is not equipped for the spectrum of what they are supposedly qualified to face.
Well said.
I am grateful for GoPro type cameras so I can panic from the safety of my living room
Someone with this little experience should not be taking on such high-level dives. That explains the panic.
Description says her husband (an instructor himself) pushed her into doing something she wasn't comfortable with. Of all people, he should have known better!
I was just certified last weekend and one of the things I've thought about since is practicing skills I'm uncomfortable with. For me, the main skills are no mask breathing and mask removal and replace. You can see the diver without a mask pinching her nose. If she was comfortable breathing with her nose exposed, she could use that hand for other things. Also shows the value of having a spare mask.
Practicing skills on a regular basis is important. I dive every week and I always try to practice something. Mask removal, SMB deployment... My spot is covered in fishing lines. Yesterday my buddy got caught by a fisherman's hook. Always carry two cutting tools, just in case (on this video obviously it would be necessary). But overall you see how bad they are as occasional divers. 20m in less than 130 bars left for the Lady in white and I think she's doing ok compared to the others. They suck on their tanks like vaccuum cleaners because lack of practice and skills... Hopefully it's 10 to 15m there so they should be alright...
I was 11 and on a dive in Mexico, the yucatan peninsula and my mask had cracked and started filling, i felt panic and wanted to go to the surface however, stayed on the floor and pulled a spare mask from my BCD, replaced the mask and continued the dive. Now I'm 13 and still loving diving. It's not for everyone though.
May I ask at what age did you take up diving?
I took diving up when I was around 8. My dad was a DM so I thought I'd give it a try.
Thomas Aucott Well done... you must be really brave to do that..... some adults can't do what you do...
ckbond41 Thank you very much. :-)
Thomas Aucott I'm impressed that your Dad had the foresight to see that you were equipped w/ a spare mask. Kudos to you for having the skill set and presence of mind to use it.
Nice video without any cuts. I felt just being with them and enjoyed it, At the moment I can't go SCUBA diving and I miss it so much. Thank you!!!
Did you do any dives during these 9 years
Socially interactively nice where three of the are holding hands along a bit of the dive. I presume the scuba diver in front is the instructor / diver in charge. I mainly enjoy this with the instructor and the diver we're mostly watching.
There is so muck kicking going on in this video ... I thought I was watching a soccer match. People need to slow down and relax a bit. Great Quality on the video though thanks for posting it, what were you shooting with?
Go pro hero 2 black
Lack of bouancy control
I bet you use that line all the time. Retire it
Agreed. They needed bikes, not tanks. lol
I've seen waaaaay worse.
panic starts around 12 min
There's plenty of pre-panic symptoms before then. Dive master was oblivious.
the real hero right here
Can someone explain the title?! Active panic? I've never heard of inactive panic , how do you panic inactively that is a complete oxymoron, moron
@@ajcook7777 inactive panic is usually displayed as catatonic symptoms...
@james jones I just swim on my back, face up
Noticed the dive guide was sticking close the the woman who panicked. At points he is holding her hand. Probably felt something was wrong before they even started the dive. He did a great job.
no he didn't, you don't start a dive going that deep with someone panicking without mask or even with someone not comfortable at the begining of the dive. Hopefully he seems to have good skills, indeed.
He held her hand while they were still at the surface. He knew she did not want to dive, she seemed very uncomfortable at the surface; but he left all his training and basic common sense in his wallet. She looked like she wanted to bolt to the surface. He had to stick close to her, Luckily, between her husband and him, they were able to make a controlled ascent.
Absolutely not. She was clearly uncomfortable on the decent and should have never been brought down to the depth. The fact some of the people are descending vertically like that suggests they don't have a lot of experience and maybe no advanced training. No idea why her mask is off like that.
You're always going to have a noob here and there who can't clear their mask... I think the most notable point of this video is how it was handled. The DM was very attentive, especially to the first 2 divers, most likely because of their experience level. So when trouble arose, he was Johnny-On-The-Spot with attending to the panicked diver in a calm and controlled fashion. And he still maintained continual communication with the other divers... Even when bringing everyone to the safe-stop. I bring this up because I just watched a video where a DM shared his air with an airhog at 100' and continued the dive! That DM should be getting lessons from this DM! This is a perfect example of how to handle a common situation at depth... I use the word situation (not emergency) because this DM did everything right and PREVENTED it from becoming an emergency.
+Xpert Gaming Thank you for you honesty on 1st comment. I myself had same problem and it made me very aware and sympathetic to my Students. Finished my diving career as a P.A.D.I M.I. So the D.M. was leading the Dive ? I watched and thought it was the Instructor leading. Was the Instructor Filming ? If so he needs to look a video again and see what he did wrong. What training agency was it ? Free decent no visual aids i.e. no line ? P.A.D.I. Open Water Dive 4 has that if I remember correctly (please correct if wrong). Looking at the video a few times looks like the student didn't loose mask but took it off. That's what confused me. Looked like they were doing a drill (Mask R&R). but in a hover and at depth ? Anyway I've had worse with certified experienced divers. S.A.F.E Dive and blow bubbles (not M.J's Monkey).
+The_Black_Rose The person leading the dive was the DM. The PADI OWSI was in the red shorts, and was diving recreationally. This was not a instructional dive.
Ahh now I see thank you.
As a dive instructor I think that mask clearing and or removal is one of the more difficult skills for some divers to master. People more comfortable in the water have less trouble with it. The other skill that come mostly with practice and time is bouyancy control.
I was a PADI instructor and agree. People should not dive when not comfortable. Stay in a pool or enclosed area until all skills are mastered.
I never had troubles opening my eyes underwater, at the pool or at the sea and I'm really comfortable with this idea so I can't wait to try this exercise ! ^^
@@shizukagozen777 Hello, just take your time and learn all steps. I taught diving and mask removal was one of the most difficult for people to learn, clearing when put in place while underwater. I always taught to put the mask on and push by the nose so the air went out by the forehead. Neutral buoyancy is the next hardest. When you do this it is best to breathe slowly and regularly. When you are good at it in the pool or still water you will see yourself go up and down as you breathe. Spend time with legs crossed and arms across your chest, breathe in and you will rise slightly and when you exhale you will sink slightly. Practice your skills in a controlled environment and become comfortable with your equipment and skills before going out in the ocean. This is my best advice. Do not rush into open water diving until you are comfortable. Never go into a cave or a sunken ship without proper training. Many people have lost their lives diving beyond their abilities and it is not worth it. Best wishes and I hope you enjoy diving because it is a different world down there! Cheers from Florida!
@@bjbrown
Sorry I'm not trying to show off but I grew up near the sea for almost 20 years and I'm like a fish (nah, a mermaid ! 🧜♀️😗🤣 jk) in the water. I always hated masks, diving googles and even more snorkels so I have always been used to opening my eyes underwater and holding my breath and I honestly don't get why people can't deal with water in the eyes. 🤷♀️ And about the buoyancy, I learned it by myself when I was a kid, that's how I can float at the surface almost without swimming which allows me to stay in the water for several hours without getting tired, or to dive without swimming. That's also how my cousin and I could play underwater miming game. Lol
I did my first dive a few days ago (only 6 meters, that's the law here) and we did the breathing exercise with the mask (up and down), but without the water inside, and it was super easy. I have no doubt I will be able to remove the mask and to put it back without any trouble, I wanted to try it during my first dive but I forgot to ask... Even removing the regulator and putting it back was easy. One of the instructors even thought I already went scuba diving and that I was here for the 20 meters training so he was surprised. Both of the instructors told me that I should come back for the training as soon as possible since I'm very comfortable in the water. Unfortunately, I don't live near the sea anymore and I had to leave 2 days after my first dive. I still have 3 weeks of holidays so I'm just thinking about going back because I don't know when I will be able to do it especially since I'll very probably lose my job because of that damn COVID so I don't know when I will have my next holidays... Anyway. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long comment to give me advices, that's so nice of you but don't worry, I'll never take risks and do something I'm not capable of and since I have submechanophobia (I know... LOL), swimming near a sunken ship is a big NO for me, even though I was extremely comfortable swimming near our boats, I felt absolutely no fear, only an intense excitement. While everyone was on the boat since a while, I stayed on my own in the water and when it was time to go, I didn't want to leave. Lol
Thank you, best wishes to you too ! Yes, I did enjoy diving very much, it was just magical !
Cheers from Paris, France ! ^^
@@shizukagozen777 I know you are just getting the point across that you are comfortable in the water, but maybe a little more humility would serve you well. I was in the US Navy and have been around water all of my life also, I am 54, and let me tell you one thing I know for a fact. As soon as you get to comfortable or complacent or cocky, mother nature will bite you in the ass and could make you pay for it big time. There is an inherent danger when you feel so comfortable with something like the ocean because you let your guard down and the next thing you know you are in the shit. Anyone at any level can slip up and then go into panic mode. Always keep learning, you can never know everything about diving or feel comfortable with every situation, I don't care who you are.
Literally one of the first basic skills I was taught was how to clear a flooded mask or a partially flooded mask...
+Steph Grace Even though this is one of the first skills everyone should or does master, sometimes panic overwhelms common sense. Then it becomes one of the most difficult tasks because she wasnt thinking reasonably.
+Ryan Conley I panicked the first 30 times I did it! I still panic even now, but I just remember that I can still breathe through my reg. It takes a long time to master, but before you go out by yourself with a buddy, all skills should be up to standard. Otherwise there is always an option to go with a divemaster.
People get certified and then dont five for years thinking they can just do it. this is why people need to refresh the skills.
@@jasonharrold6686 Absolutely agree..I got certified in 1993...have about 20 dives total. My BF wanted to get certified so I just did whole class with him again. I'm PADI and he is SSI so it was great to have the refresher and to have both of us know how the other will do, how we work together, etc. Our open dives were in a lake this past weekend and viz was 30". It was not fun. It was a bit stressful. We had a girl freak out on her mask removal and bolt to the top. She didn't complete. My bf and I are going to go practice more in the pool before we head to Kauai in a few weeks.
Jason Harrold As a dive instructor, I totally agree. The less experience you have, the more perishable the skills.
I was diving today, actually. I descended normally and could not equalize my left ear. I eventually did and was at 50 feet for about 20 minutes. I ascended to do my 3 minute safety stop. After 2 minutes passed blood began pooling up in my mask. I cleared it multiple times but as soon as it was clear it got filled with blood again. I finished my 3 minute safety stop completely blind. As I ascended I patted myself on the back for not panicking. And that ladies and gentlemen, is a sinus squeeze.
wow! congrats!
One thing I have learned is to equalize intermittently. Once you can tell you need to equalize, it's too late. It is much harder to equalize under pressure. Start equalizing from the moment you get wet until you are at depth and you'll be fine.
Michael Strike Just read that it was sinus related. Good job not panicking.
That is freaking scary. That's why I have my hands on my nose the whole time.
Laura Chai What are you supposed to do if there's sharks around you?
As a Divemaster, I don’t understand why he didn’t get her out of the water after a 15 ft. Safety stop! Besides the reef has no marine life.
I was wondering about the marine life too. I saw maybe two fish? Why do that when there is really nothing to see. I have seen more exciting areas just snorkling.
The young lady with the yellow mask is a natural, calm collected and good hand signals.
When it takes two people holding your hand through a dive you might want to opt for something at a lesser depth of just don’t dive. I wish my wife would dive but it’s not her thing and that’s fine I’m not gonna force something it could result in a dangerous situation.
Side note: this reef is DESOLATE very sad.
Come check my dive spot in Miho, Japan if you want to see real desolation....
I was in the Dominican Republic not too long ago and there were fresh open water certified divers on board. They kept saying they were 'real nervous' and that should have just been a flag. They got under water, the girls mask started flooding and she panicked hard. She then bolted to the surface and then had to be treated with O2, blowing the whole dive for the group. Needless to say, I was pissed. Now I'm almost hesitant to dive with anyone with no experience.
Completely agree
Lewis Lawson fuck off
Sh*t happens even with experienced divers. You sound like someone who lacks empathy. This is why I think PADI certification sucks in several ways while compared to NAUI: people do not learn how to deal with certain situations not to mention that they get certified right after completing certain skills instead of going through a more demanding process of evaluation for so.
Social politics dictate that we be empathetic, even to the point of death. Even ours.
I would have also panicked if there was nothing to see, and their gauges were hanging loose.
Thumbs up for the name
Lmao
LOL
They are meant to
@@gigagewahya2013 no they arent. They should be clipped to a d ring or affixed some other way. Only open water students let them fly around. The purpose is to streamline, avoid damaging sensitive marine ecosystems, and ensure it is always easily accessible.
People should be trained to be very comfortable and confidence in the water first, before get a SCUBA training
Sometimes that isnt an option. I agree it would be nice to have people comfortable around water, but sometimes that isnt an option.
I do believe any shop which operates needs to make sure each skill is mastered before moving on and the person is completely comfortable with doing them.
Thank you for the comment Ryan :)
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Think i have had this issue too.. reason why i have quit. It wasnt making me comfortable in deeper waters. I am still somewhat interested in divings in holidays, but yea
Resort courses make money and the majority go off without a hitch, but they are inherently unsafe for the new skill-less "diver."
Shes kicking her fins like its keeping her afloat...clearly never dove before. Dive instructor is perfectly still
Holy crap. 85ft underwater
this happens. Nice job hub
I think her husband should had taken her on some shallower dives before hitting this depth, this is why a good instructor will make you keep practicing until you are comfortable.
Trying to kill her
I find these so interesting and realistically mind triggers to what if real life situations !
The is the exact reason why I carry a 2nd mask on the bottom of my BC.
How's a second mask helpful if you don't know how to clear it? We can see her or the DM taking her mask off after she started panicking and then the DM trying to put it back on or help her clear it, which ofcourse doesn;t work because she doesn't know how to clear it.
As did I back in my diving days.
@@KimonFrousios A second mask is helpful when your instructor constantly tests his divemaster students by ripping their masks of, dropping their weightbelts and opening their dry suits.
@@KimonFrousios I've seen a DM / instructor clear a student's mask using a second stage though.
Kudos to the divemaster!!
Learning to dive and keeping the mask clear and clear of water is something that needs to be practiced especially in cold water. You develop techniques that work and need to practice them. I always like to keep a little water in the mask to swish off the condensation that builds to see clearly. Without a mask you're not totally blind of senses, up would be feeling and following your bubbles. Practice with your eyes closed. Let go of your regulator and see if you can find them back into your mouth. All these simple things need to be practiced with a safety diver watching. More so in high stress environment like in kelp or cave. Know that no matter how experienced you are Sh_t can happen. Your only saving grace is a cool thinking head and not cross over to panic land towards death.
Sounds like you taught yourself to dive or did a PADI course which is little better.
I really have enjoyed watching your scuba videos. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching! I going to continue to upload the rest of the videos hopefully once a week.
In my college, we have diving club, there's a rule that before each dive we have to do at least 10 scuba training in pool before the actual dive, no exception.
Wow, 10? Well I guess it´s a nice warm-up.
I already know i have depth issues (never dived but want my cert) I would be happy as a clam just hovering a few feet below water, no drive at all to go down 30-50 yards scary as hell down there. I like having fast escape options :P
Once at 60 feet I realised I had a snake in my boot.
😂🤣😭
I suppose the hovercraft is full of eels
Way to go Woody
1. no snorkels 2. female diver has too much weight 3. someone pushed her to go past her comfort zone. I can't tell if her eyes are closed which may indicate she wears contact lenses underwater. I use an RX mask.
ANY person can become a PADI instructor; it doesn't mean you have the common sense to not push a person past his comfort zone in an activity.
I have been using scuba since 1964 and have thousands of dives in many different conditions.
Kim Siewers bringing a snorkel triggers me dont bring a snorkel when u scuba dive lmao
What if you need to have one of those unexpectedly violent coughs or sneezes underwater? That’s the thing that worries me as a non scuba dude
@@ricardomontalban6004 You just cough or sneeze exactly as you would do above water. The only difference is that you would hold your hand on your mask and regulator instead of your nose an mouth. It's the same reflex. You can even vomit trough your regulator. Feeding the fish as we call it.
Puking in a regulator is also possible.
@@sunnyhighway1 if you need to throw up, switch to your octo for that if you have the time. No need to introduce a faul taste to your prime 2nd stage
Agree with posts, the way to practice these skills is in confined water. If you practice in open water keep it relatively shallow. Glad that worked out.
Watch this video repeatedly and still cannot find any 'active panic.' The lady being assisted by the DM/Instructor appears to either have mask problem, maybe coughing or something. But, she is in no panic. A person in panic will be blowing a lot of air and unresponsive. She seems to have problems but she is calm and responding to the DM. However, every divers in this group including the videographer are unstable. Looks more like students in their training OW dives.
Don Quixote exactly - EVERYONE looked very unfamiliar with the water, only the DM(s) was really horizontal.
Removing a mask from panicking divers head is one of the ways a DM can save their life...
I see panic. The way she's flailing and holding on to that instructor. I realize she's a beginner, but she certainly seems out of control.
Very discoordinated movements with little to no purpose. Complete failure to maintain neutral bouyancy which is evident when you see all those flailing kicks but no vertical movement. She was definitely panicked.
@@nickharris8304 I watched the video again. She actually has no mask! She is pinching her nose to prevent water. During roll entry, none of the divers have one hand to the back of their head to keep the strap from slipping (a mistake). It's good she did not just shoot for the surface. Stay SAFE (Slowly Ascend From Every dive), no more than 9 meters/minute. The divemaster or her buddy should have just went down to retrieve her mask. I believe it is just 10 meters or so as you can still see surface wave, shallow dive, no wall.
That's why I go just snorkeling! I had a fundive in 13 m and when I realized, one mistake and I could die, I started to get panic. I have respect for all the divers!
Great job by the dive master he kept her calm, this could of gotten ugly he had the situation under control.
why does anyone want to go diving in Montego Bay anyway? Noticeable absence of something divers like to call FISH!!
Yeah. Too bad. The profile was very nice but the reef was dead and covered with that algae. Sad
umm because they are on vacation and want to go diving!
@@roadboat9216 Most reefs are dead, ocean acidity, rising water temperatures, pollution, and irresponsible fishing. We deserve it. Can't get our shit together to focus on a problem that concerns us all regardless of country, religion, or politics. Why Republicans gotta be so against regulations to fix this issue... Makes me angry and sad when I see the reefs near me.
Diego Smith Sorry Diego, you are so right. Wish that you weren’t. Most of my diving (thousands of dives) was done 20-30 yrs ago. I went last year to the Bahamas and wow! It was totally different. Dead. Very sad. Did a wall dive on Grand Turk. It was a little better than the Bahamas but nothing like it use to be.
And our government (USA) is moving backward on everything environmental! Crazy.
@@diegosmith6062 So If I understood right in Your opinion you don't feel positive to suggest to dive in Jamaica Diego ?cause I saw a realy dead reef there, no fishes, really different from Red Sea ! But my question to you and to all is : but that's same scenary in all the Dive sites in Jamaica and in all the Carribean ? Because if you answer shold be positive I will schedule my Next Dive trip in another place...for sure...
I am noob too with 7 dives! recently certified so I am good at depth around 70 feet and i didn't go further because my instructor said not to :-D we were diving 22 meters down on the side of the huge cliff and beneath us its deep and blue but little scary though! I felt that moment was a real adventure and awesome and i never been a jerk underwater! Yes some people dont deserve to be in underwater like this girl! because of her everyone has go abort and i feel sad for the rest of them! I am at bad english anyway
just did my basic open water with SDI. First thing we Learned was mask clearing and that cert only allows max depth of 60 feet so why was she at 80?
+Jason Wolf
Depending on your Training and/or Organization you may dive as deep 40m (ca 130 ft) on air.
@@Freakschwimmer I think one organization actually certifies down to 50m for recreational diving, but most of them go down to 40m with advanced training for recreational non-tech dives.
Your first cert via PADI only allows to a depth of 18m that's 66ft anything more than that and you need to do the next cert up and even then they will only allow you to do it if you have done a set amount of dives first
I don’t know about Montego but I started scuba diving at Negril Bay in 2006 and at the time the reef was in perfect shape. Hope it still is. As for diving to low for the skill level, many dive bases don‘t go by the rules - which exist for a reason! In the vid the dive master handled the panic situation well, but there shouldn‘t have been such a in the first place.
they didnt even have their own dive computers on
being a diver who's only dived in california, its so alien to see people diving in just bathing suits. must be nice.
Nah mate, I'm diving in tropical warm water and still cringe to see them dive with no wetsuit.
It looks comfortable, but not advisable. You can get injured easier by marine life or the rocks at the bottom.
Also despite the warm water, you are still loosing a lot of your heat with no protection
They just need to get stung by a jellyfish 🪼 once and maybe they will learn their lesson 😂😜
Go pro Hero 2 with a "cave light" mount on my head above the mask.
Hey dude I think for me having a beard means I get leaks anyway in my mask meaning clearing it becomes second nature to me
Im leaving for Mexico in 3 days. Currently have a huge bushy beard. Couple of options.
Shave all the way down smooth.
Shave only mustache down.
Shave small knotch in mustache.
Wax mustache.
blog.padi.com/2015/12/01/moustache-divers-tips-for-improving-your-mask-seal/
@@RochesterScuba shave it so the mask fits only lol nah aslong as you keep an eye on it you should be OK mate just clear mask ever few mins lol
@@CrimsonSkull420 I mean, I have a beard and it´s not such a HUGE issue...Just tighten it correctly (not too much though) and maybe clear it from time to time.
how does everyone feel about the moustache wax method? i dive and my fiance is thinking about starting
This shows how important the mask clearing exercises really are in the PADI OW course. And why instructors really should be certain that their students master the skill before they get there certification!
And on a sidenote, you should try to have your gopro on some kind of tray or stick so you don't get all the bubbles in the video and audio. Also the video tends to be a lot smoother when you hold on to the camera, preferably with two hands.
In my opinion clearing your mask is one of the easiest things to do
Good for you Quentin. :) But in many cases students struggle with the task of clearing the mask. Practice makes perfect.
problem is there are way too many vacation divers that have an open water certificate but actually never dive... They're hopeless in the water. And where the fuck is the lady's mask???
Believe it or not that was in a marine park also. It didn't matter because there were still tons of traps.
That reef is hurtin!
What reef....... That Rock?
I was gonna say lol... But no. It's just sad.
Most of these videos show reefs that are dead or dying. So sad.
Is it real? Zero fish
Air expands when ascending from depth. This could result in an uncontrollable ascent.
So sad what Jamaica has allowed to happen to their "Reefs". Even their marine parks are deserts, it is still common practice there for people to cyanide or "dynamite" fish. I would not even dive outside of the parks due to the danger of injury and lack of respect by boaters.
It's not just Jamaica, it's our oceans in general. You don't hear it talked about much, but one side effect of pumping so much CO2 into the air aside from climate change is the acidification of our oceans. As the pH drops, the coral dies. As the coral dies, so does the rest of ocean life.
If God didn't want us to dynamite fish, he wouldn't have given us dynamite! How do you think the original Blow-fish got it's name?!?
They are not too bright
ALWAY"S Have an exit route for a mishap or fail. Part of any safe divers strategy. Experience is key ! I actually go through fail scenarios in my head just about every day. Kinda fun making them up and discussing with other divers.
For me it's part of he fun.
Stay calm, focus and keep breathing. Every time I dive I remember this.
My only lingering question is just why were they so deep with such a beginner?
Caıse they are ….
I coulda listened to the Likes vs Dislikes ratios but nooooo, I had to be stubborn and learn the hard way~
a 20 minute dive and not one single fish to be seen.
Daniel Crawford Jamaicans have over fished their reefs. They need better education, and policy for policing. This was in their marine park also! They should look to cozumel Mexico with their marine park. It could be mostly restored within 10 years.
@@RochesterScuba Jamaican fish. They're all stoned and chllin' out of sight.
At 10 minutes in there was one fish..
Was about to say the same. Its completley dead at the reef. Its such a shame and sad that this may become international and no future generation will see the beauty of a reef teaming with life.
I saw one small fish. I noticed the same. So sad.
There’s no way that woman should have been to 80 feet ! I don’t care who was with her too many things could have went wrong. That dive master should have said no ! I would have never allowed that . Glad she’s ok
I'm sick and tired of what is happening to the dive industry, especially with PADI instructors. The water is the deadliest and most unforgiving environment on earth. The condensing of PADI open water certification into two days is a recipe for disaster. At a minimum, a line and float must be deployed behind all dive boats before any divers are allowed into the water so the divers can hang onto it instead of fighting a current. A dive line must be deployed from the dive boat to the bottom so that inexperienced divers can hold onto it while descending and ascending. If you go 60+ feet, you should seriously consider taking a pony bottle. There should be a mandatory five (5) open water dives prior to certification, where in the first two dives descend to 40 feet and just sit there so the can get accustomed to being underwater and take effects of Nitrogen. I have been diving for decades and the one thing I can assure you of is that things will go wrong when you least expect it and will cascade into a full blown emergency very fast.
I lived to tell my first ocean check out dive, PADI! My instructors broke every rule.I was young,dumb,only female.Truly frightening being an asthmatic to boot😱
I see a lot of people judging here because someone is panicking. People react differently and will figure out what works for them. Since it’s their first time it can be very nerve racking.
It looked like a discover scuba dive. Max 5m. What was the guide thinking! There were many signs of nervousness.
Im not sure who removed the mask, it's often the first sign of panic but she calmly swims up afterwards which is very unusual. Respect to the lady. Amazingly she delt with the dangerous situation better than her guide
I don't see a panic at all The woman lost her mask and had a momentary freak out but that's far from a panic The video operator should get a double hose reg or a rebreather though - those bubbles in frame of view sure are annoying
Should a newbie go down 80 feet?
No. Unfortunately, in the Caribbean, many dive shops ignore recommended depths. I remember going to 80ft in a discover in Roatan, 85ft in my open water cert in the Bahamas, and 95ft in Jamaica on other people's dives.
Wow. You could have died on that trip. Never dive outside your skill level and im sure this post proves it. Im sure diving at 90ft seems like the same as 30, but when the narc kicks in and it feels like you are drunk underwater scary things happen. I have seen people take their regulator out of their mouth and try and give it to fish because the fish was "drowning".
Do yourself a favor and take it slow. Only dive deeper when you have the experience at 60 feet and the classroom experience understanding the effects of deep diving.
Cory R A "newbie" should probably only stay at like 50-60 ft
Cory R Depends on your certification lol you shouldn't ask this if you've done one. If you haven't then you shouldn't dive alone! (And you wouldn't be able to) what a weird question! o_o
John Llorens
I trained to dive in the Military and we got extensive training in environmental conditions. We also in increments built up our skills.
Even with the experience you know have I would recommend you still carry out more research and try to prepare in greater detail with your skills.
my maximum dive depth was 200 ft. But today i do most of my dives at about 60 ft as a maximum. I tend to favor shallow clear dives.
Came across this vid as im browsing scuba vids just recently passed my open water. Wondered what camera this was recorded on? Only ever used a gopro hero3 but its a relic now and i must upgrade asap 😅
P.s that visibility is incredible 😍 cant wait to scuba abroad, i live in the uk best i ever get is around 8-10m
That was a go pro 2 maybe? I used the head mount and have since upgraded to a pole.
I wouldnt go to Jamaica. Not to much wildlife.
Cozumel has been my go to so far.
Red sea might be affordable for uk
Best of luck. Cheers!
It is really a terrible sensation. I got in panic at 6 meters... in Egypt and fortunately I could go up and breath. The sound of the bubbles and all the silence around made the panic. I have claustrophobia and wanted to try with an instructor near me.. he knew this and was superlative. Now to see these videos I still feel unconfortable.
Kinda ironic to be claustrophobic in a giant ocean/sea but I get what you mean lol
@@Cbd_7ohm agoraphobic is the correct term I should have used.
don't push yourself. Maybe scuba is not for you. I have a friend who never dived but he is scared a lot just listening to bubble sounds from my underwater video footage.
man, nice looking video~! Thanks - felt I was right there. Great viz - you can see for miles and miles~ I dive out of Boston, where on a good day you can see your fins.
why were they even that deep for an open water certification given that it’s a new diver introduction. the max i went to was 17.2m. 80feet is ridiculous
Enjoyed this video, thumbs up from us and cheers from sunny IGY Simpson Bay Marina, Sint Maarten in the Caribbean.
Was thinking about becoming a scuba diver instructor until I saw all the videos
I hate it when my mask floods too. Bought an Tusa Imprex 3D, it has a valve that's great for clearing the mask but also great for letting the water in. No surprise that mask is gone !! Mask clearing is one the of first skills you learn in a course?
i didnt see any panic here at all.....which one of the women was it? very confused
+Pussycatfeathers Go to the 12 minute mark of the video. The person panicking is the one who is blowing tons of bubbles and kicking her feet like crazy. If you watch later in the video (14.4 min), she has completely lost her mask. She is holding her nose with her hands and her eyes are closed (because you can't open your eye in salt water (it stings)). There is a long pause at that point with nothing happening but looking at gauges - That's when they're taking their 3 minute safety stop before surfacing as they had to abort the dive. They were close to the bottom, so I'm not sure why they didn't find her mask.
+Annette Stevens thanks for the explanation, i see it now :-) personally i would panic just getting my head 1 foot under water....brave people
+Annette Stevens Salinity in tears is approximately the same as in sea water. You can open your eyes in the sea while swimming or diving, I do it all the time and most people I know from diving do it as well! It doesn't "sting" - its not physically but its a mental thing in how comfortable you feel with having your eyes open in water! You can try for your self the next time you're swimming in sea water! @14:32 the lady in the video had her eyes open btw...
+Goelu well said. and you should try ,in my opinion, when you go underwater,especially when you go diving
Don't know why your eyes aren't stinging. It's happened every single time. Maybe the salinity is higher where I dive - sea of Cortez.
It always bothers me when people exceed their limits or allow themselves to be pushed passed their limits.
I went on a drift dive in the Maldives in January with a couple who had been roped into getting their AOW right after their OW. We needed to submerge immediately after jumping in and yet the couple paused for a long time to simply get into the water. Furthermore, the woman was panicking within 5 metres of the surface. And when we got to the bottom, they were both thrashing around sucking up air incredibly quickly. They ran out of air within 15 minutes at 25 metres. They did not deflate their BCDs so while we all ascended holding hands, they tanked our ascent rate because their BCDs were filling up like balloons. Seriously, the husband ascended vertically upside down! All of our watch alarms were going off and I was trying my best to slow our ascent. We went from 25 metres to the surface in less than 2 minutes. Near the surface I let go of the group and completed my 3 minute safety stop by myself. I'm not letting that inexperienced bitch (which she is for endangering all of us) put my life in danger.
The dive master made SO many mistakes. 1) letting that woman and her husband do a drift dive when they weren't ready 2) choosing a small reef with a strong current 3) Not stopping the dive when she was freaking out at 5 metres or at the bottom 4) Letting their panic send the whole group into an uncontrolled ascent 5) Not addressing their BCD problems earlier during the ascent and 6) Thinking that people who have just finished their OWs are ready for AOWs.
Other than that one dive, the trip was fantastic.
tomatodamashi
I did a drift dive in Kona - we were down for about 90 mins - one of the best dives ever - It was with a dive master, and another guy doing his last dive to get his master diving and myself (finishing up my AOW)
It’s always someone else’s fault
I learned how to take my mask off and clear it in 25ft of open water through NAUI. Is this something that not everyone learns?
***** Not all diving organisations have the same rigorous training methods. I learned through BSAC (British Sub Aqua Club) and we did the same sort of thing - clearing mask at depth; rescue dive training (removing someone else's kit at depth) etc etc. PADI are a joke. Do not learn to dive with PADI.
EmptyGlass99 Did PADI do something to you? I wonder due to the fact that you are blaming the entire organization rather than instructors that are dubious. I have met NAUI instructors just as bad. Never met an BSAC instructor so I couldn't say. My experience has always been about the individual not the organization. If you are not aware mask clearing and changing kit in confined water are two of PADI's required skills before moving to open water (there are 22 all told). The instructor in this case should not have put his wife in that position. If she were not certified she shouldn't have been that deep, if she were only PADI OW she should not have been below 60. The dive master did his job and did it well. She and her husband (emphasis on her husband) should have known better.
+EmptyGlass99 i did my open water diving course with padi and the company i did it with did a great job and with padi you do learn all the stuff you listed and more, when some people get panicked they relay on basic training others freak out, just because she freaked out doesn't mean she didnt learn it.
@@EmptyGlass99 really? I learnt with PADI and learning to clear my mask (fully flooded, partially flooded and removing it swimming without it putting it back on and clearing it) was literally the first thing we did! and we did the same thing on pur first open water dive. I think the instructor is far more influential on their students than the school in which they belong.
I did a taster diving course in an indoor pool that was max depth about 5 metres I think. Even just 5 metres feels very deep when you look back up, and when you feel the weight of water on you and your chest. I wouldn't want to push somebody in to going as deep as in this video.
If some one produce a Open Water Certificate to the Dive Master it means it was acquired from someone else, not the Dive Master. His job is to give a tour in a safe environment and protect each member of his group. Regardless of the dept, the absence of fish and a secondary mask, he was in charge and gave assistance to someone who needed help. Further, he maintained contact with the rest of the group who ascended with him. This must mean he gave a Diving Brief before entry and the entire group surfaced safely. Great job Dive Master
I had a crash OW course taken, very tough theory n practice itineraries. Killer instructor, but I got all I was taught. Practical job... love it...
If someone produces a PADI Open Water certificate it's a good indication they need to go on a proper course.
Noob sauce.. if you can't clear your mask, you don't belong in the ocean.
Or at the very least, not lower than 18 metres...
Absolutely true! She needed to be more comfortable with basic skills before trying this.
Everyone's expert right
@@tomatodamashi no, you shouldn't be let out of the pool
Can someone explain the title?! Active panic? I've never heard of inactive panic , how do you panic inactively that is a complete oxymoron, moron
OWSI still constantly kicking and moving arms??? I don't believe it. This is no one fit to be an OWSI. Did you see their cert card?
I mentioned that all girls had too much weight on them. Hard to swim in vertical position.:) Were did you dived? What happens with the mask?
I can see the panic, but can't figure out why? Can someone help explain what happened?
Someone's mask filled with water (it happens) they are obviously not well trained and panic set in I did my mask clearing no problem as I knew I could breath still but for some the panic takes over and they breath harder and then try to breath in through their nose (that you can't do) as the mask is over the nose and the mask is full of water until you clear it
Typical tourist dive location on a dying reef.... what a shame!
Any foreign location would be a tourist spot...
Typical Jamaica 80% of their reef is dead.
+C.M. Terrell how do you correct that? complain about it and do nothing or educate the locals about preservation?
Well the people were educated and laws were put in place, but because they are impoverished, they can make money by selling off coral souvenirs they've become scofflaws, and you know coral is symbiotic with itself, if you touch it, it will slowly die. It's too late for Jamaica, the damage is done. Bermuda is a place that does it right, I think every place where the reefs are a draw could learn from them.
Coral are actually very resilient. In the reef hobby we cut them in to tiny pieces and grow whole colonies. Moderation is everything in this case in the wild.
According to the SSI Manual, a panic attack is an accumulation of discomforts started since the dive preparation.
Could someone explain with reasonable specificity what happened to the woman who panicked?
Please Help,,, Which Person had the Panic attack,,,, thou I was not there I could feel the atmosphere slit like a knife,,,, Someone spoilt all the Trip and it could be felt,, Help me out,, please tell me Which one had the Panic attack
Bit of water in her mask under ideal conditions, lack of basic skill professionally handled. Big deal. Nice viz though.
agree.
That other girl's face when she realize she had to stop her dive... lol
well I'll give you my opinion on this I've just attempted the open water course in Malta and I've not had any problems until I got to the mask removal and replacement. now don't get me wrong I know how to do it on paper but 2 different instructors have tried 3 times on 2 different days to get me through it and I can't get my head around it. 1st time i panicked and took water up my nose then almost cleared the mask and fucked it up and had to surface. 2nd time got the mask off for about 35 seconds then felt water on the back of my throat and surfaced, 3rd time tried flooding the mask then forgot to breathe through the regulator and surfaced again! I hold my hand up and say I felt like shit for not completing it so kept going back for another go and failing. I can perform it above water no probs but down there it's a different story. mabe I'll try again some day I've only got a handful of skills to finish but I know another one is swimming with the mask off procedure and not looking forward to that either.
Just finished my open water and going for advanced course in coming weeks. Sounds to me like you're thinking about it too much. You need to practice just holding your breath in a swimming pool and sinking to the bottom without mask or anything at all. The only thing that this skill is testing is whether you can breathe only through you regulator and not through the nose. When you put you mask on, then you take a breath through the regulator and just exhale through your nose ( not inhale) through your nose. I'm sure you'll get it next time, just need to practice doing it in the pool rather than the ocean.
+BigDog thanks man I hope so! I had three attempts on it over 2 days the first instructor was quite "this is how you do it and after everyone else completed it ok I then found out about the swim without the mask wich kinda made it worse as I knew even if i beat the first one there was another bigger one to come!? Mabe I'll give it another bash now I'm back in the U.k who knows!? to be honest I tried to fight the fear but it got to me by the second day. bit of a waste of the whole course too I spose not even completing it after all that money spent.
Try in shallow water (maybe a pool) first and take a deep breath make yourself calm then start by partially flooding your mask so the water goes up your nose but slowly, or trying humming whilst you do it which may keep the water out your nose. I had a bit of a problem with this for a while but if you stay calm and just think as long as the regulator is in your mouth you're fine! Hope this helps
+JoePro thanks dude I'll give it a go sounds like you got it Sussed there buddy great info!
I struggled with mask removal. I went for a shallow dive and just kept flooding and clearing, maybe 50 times. Then as I flooded I pulled the mask away from the front of my face. If I began to panic I was able to easily drop it back in place and clear. I just kept doing this until my breathing remained the same wether flooded or not. Then I pulled the mask off my face completely. Then replace and clear. Just keep doing it over and over, you will eventually wonder what all the fuss was about.
SCUBA STEVE..!! **in my "BIG DADDY/ ADAM SANDLER voice**
As a subnautica player, the depth in meters looks like rookie numbers, considering that in subnautica with just an upgraded air tank you could go deeper than 100 meters.
At 100m you use your gas 11x faster than at surface level. Also you cannot breathe regular air because you would get nitrogen narcosis or even oxygen toxicity. Oh and I'm not even talking about the several deco stops you would have to do. I also love subnautica but that game is far from realisti
Panic can set in anytime for experienced divers and inexperienced divers, dive master/ guide was there to help but I noticed no one was checking air psi during the dive, at times the group is 20 to 40 feet apart, no in water check that I could see other than a few problems an enjoyable dive
I don’t care if it’s a loved one, friend, whatever if I’m uncomfortable I’m not diving in it.
I got 3 questions how do they decend like that , are you not allowed to acend to the surface fast, and how do you now panic bc i feel like if i got ima panic