One thing I also noticed was how in particular Obito died. When Asuma asks Shikamaru who the “king” is on the shogi board, Shikamaru responds with saying that the king is the Hokage. Asuma then teaches him that the “king” is the next generation. The ones that will come after him and inherit. Shogi is the Japanese variant of chess and just like in chess, the “King” is the most protected piece on the board. It has other pieces standing in front of it. This neatly falls in line with Naruto’s evolved path to becoming the Hokage. The Hokage is the one that walks in front, but why is he walking in front?? He is walking in front to protect those that will come after, the next generation. In this regard, Obito’s death was a symbolic representation of this. He died acting as a shield to Naruto, the representation of the next generation. If only for a moment, he walked the front. He died as a Hokage should. Protecting the most important piece on the shogi board.
Obito was the best character. So interesting compared to others. I love him, I love all his roles, as the nicest kid in the village, to mentally destroyed teenager, a completely broken cold hearted villain and a villain who regrets it all as he is forced to remember who he was, and sees the hope he thought couldn’t exist in Naruto
Obito is my favorite character. I think the ending for his character could not be better. This is one of the best written characters in the anime. Thanks for the videos please keep making more
@@Josh374 She had a crush on Kakashi at first, but the end implies she also had feelings for Obito. I do believe that if he returned earlier and she survived they would have ended up together.
I have nothing but appreciation for the videos you put out. Naruto is a series whose legacy feels like it is constantly being trampled on and covered in mud by an entourage of a very vocal minority that completely disregards what this series has to offer below the surface. It feels almost poetic that a show that emphasizes the importance of looking beyond one's hatred and finding resolution through understanding more often than not is treated with contempt and misunderstanding by so many people. Nowadays, trying to create a conversation about this series to a wider group of people seems meaningless in and of itself - especially because you will get shrugged off with the standard "let people hate things" retort or get mocked with opinions that are in bad faith with no room for understanding, so I always feel very happy when I get to watch your videos where I feel like the series I grew up with won't be remembered as a pile of trash.
I honestly think Obito suffered from the sunk cost fallacy. I feel like at some point in his life he only pursued Madara’s dream because he was already heavily invested in seeing it through. I felt like in the back of his head he knew he choose the wrong path but he knew it was too late to turn back.
It's understandable since his dreams were shattered and the few people he cared about were gone. Madara's dream gave a new purpose on his new life, even if it was in a twisted way
Yes I agree, and I'd like to add that in the war arc it seemed like he wanted to be proven wrong, he kept asking for Naruto's motivations and stuff. Idk, Obito just seemed lil hesitant towards infinite tsukunomi.
Yes this along with having lost those most important, and then thirdly the manipulation and fail-safes that Madara and zetsu put into place to help further prevent him from going back on stuff. Obito knew about whatever seal was on his heart, I'm sure he was smart enough to realize that he was brought into the sway of Madara Uchiha who was pretty much the most powerful Uchiha in recent memory. Obito probably couldn't even grasp the amount of things that may have been in place, genjutsu, seals, traps that he could have fallen into had he decided to sway from the path. I think at the very end he realized he had his opportunity to take the reins of the plan that he had been working on for so long
Yea he literally attacked the village the year after rins death. Atp he literally couldnt just come back. I think if minato unmasked him there he would have given up. But as long as he could keep his identity hidden hed never doubt himself.
I get why a lot of people's knee-jerk reaction (including mine) to the 'coolest guy' line was utter disdain but I do also get that it wasn't Kishimoto saying "yeah Obito's sins are all forgiven." It was Naruto choosing to value the good in a person who mirrored himself in many ways and despite a lifetime of terrible choices chose to spend his last moments helping save the world. Given Naruto has seen inside Obito's heart this isn't a statement of blind naivety but informed optimism. Your Naruto content continues to be fantastic, I cannot wait for when you do the big bad Uchiha himself next.
That, plus when Naruto said he was the coolest guy, he was specifically talking about Obito, not 'Nobody'. Obito wanted to become hokage, was an Uchiha like Sasuke, fell in love with Rin, was Minatos subordinate, and Kakashis comrade. I dont know why people misinterpret this, when in the manga chapter, Naruto verbatim says: "As someone who tried to become Hokage...Obito is...nothing but awesome to me!!!"
Great video once again! Obito was developed in a period of the story were many people started to give up on Naruto, so he was bounded to be misunderstood. It's great to see the 4th ninja war be well analized
Some people refer to it as the worst arc in manga...I can never understand that sentiment, not even a little. I say its the most misunderstood/misinterpreted arc in manga
@@sachamarzullo It was never bad at all. In the anime, its understandable why you would think its bad, cuz of pacing, fillers and repeat flashbacks, but manga didnt have these issues
The people who complained about this forgot what this manga is about. It's not about the mindless punishment that our current society can only think about, it's about doing more than that, its about understanding others because everything has an origin. Because it's when people feel truly understood, that you can get them to come back to the light again. Or at least you increase the chances of bringing them back.
that why naruto fandoms got most hated by other fandoms.They said the anime about overcome hatred but the fans totally more on revenge&hatred make other anime fans said to naruto community/hater/critic character as ironic.Naruto fandoms complain very much with concept.They like hype moments,character that deserve to be villain although it not about that at all,mostly they hate alien/kaguya concept,hate tragic&heartache for dramatic for character development.This fandoms the most toxic and obsessed with stories than other anime are.Even life lesson they didn't care at all.One piece is 2nd worst too.Most fans hate obito character no matter what either he was good or not.I can see the rotten heart they are.
Dude, I just want you to know, and I genuinely mean this so let this sink in. From the bottom of my heart... You are actually just straight up the best Naruto UA-camr. Your editing, script, production quality are all elite. Even your equipment is clearly top notch. I can only hope to aspire to your level of quality one day. I need you to know this, because this level of effort and talent deserves to not only be appreciated, but publicly praised! YOU ARE THE BEST!!!
@@Tone_Of_Dials lmao please indulge me on your creative genius mastermind behind the omnipotent godly youtuber who will swoon me away. I'd LOVE to hear it
HotboySpicy, you are the coolest guy. Your videos never fail to send chills down my spine, and you somehow manage to encapsulate everything that I love about this series in a way I could only dream of. I feel like the "Neji was always right" argument that critics of this series make was never truly grounded in proper analysis of the series. Your videos really inspired me to take the step to make a video on it, and although it's not perfect I'm really proud of it :)
The Neji was always right argument is wild because it's pretty much not his argument, it's the Fandoms. Neji's whole argument was that in order to become hokage you have to be destined for it, that we're all swept alongside the current of destiny and have to accept it. The whole point of this scene is not to take his words at face value because they're coming from an actual hypocrite. If Neji actually believed that, he would NEVER HAVE TRIED TO KILL HINATA!!!! If that spiel was true in any regard to the series, THEN NARUTO WOULD HAVE KILLED SASUKE!!!! It's the biggest misinterpretation of the series for pretty much no reason............. I blame Lee fans🙄🙄
@@saucinreggie7900 People love Lee and try to ascribe him more, refuse to see faults with him and want him to be main character. One of the most wanted things I saw was for him to get things like Sage Mode. Thus they misinterpret Neji's outlook and actions. Combine that with ignoring plotpoints and some inherit brokenness... you get that argument. "Neji's argument" it's broken by any instance of being wrong, no matter how and when, or by having multiple end points for one's life.
@@zararkhan3499 I actually really hate sakura haters because they themselves don't even seem to understand Salura’s charscters. But that'd the naruto fandom for you
Personally, to me, Obito is the coolest guy because he found the strength in himself after all that turmoil he had caused Naruto and accepted Naruto’s extended hand. From philosophical viewpoint, the main villain of the series was always Obito - not Madara or kaguya. Sometimes we really need to forgive ourselves before we can receive reconciliation from others. I hope this made sense but this is my take on what pulled me to Obito (kamui pun intended) 😁
Thanks for another excellent Naruto video. One aspect of the Fandom that I find irritating is the astronomical amount of people who think the memes and jokes are actually what's happening. No character has suffered through that more than Obito in my opinion, an I'm glad u touched on that aspect in this video👍🏾👍🏾.
3:30 - my most favourite moment where Madara smiling offers a helping hand while Infinite Tsukuyomi reflects on the moon and roots of the divine tree are coming out of earth
It's also important to take note that in the scope of the series and character itself Obito is not only Obito, he's Madara Uchiha, No one and Obito Uchiha himself. His masks is symbolic of his many natures during this journey. So when Naruto appreciated Obito he specifically mentioned the one who wants to become hokage aka Obito Uchiha. Naruto being a mainstream shonen and something that can resonate with any ordinary person unfortunately isn't privileged to share these themes within the story and is often viewed with a lens of "realism" which is where people wrong themself. It does provide many lessons one can take home but understanding it's characters with respect to the series should also be acknowledged.
I almost cry every time I watch your videos. You're doing great job, never stop. Your voice analyzing scenarios of Naruto sends me back to the memory lane and tears just start to fell off. Thanks for your job dude. Be happy 😊
Bro you are actually like top 1% of UA-camrs I swear. I find myself rewinding the video and pausing it at least 10-20 times per video, bare minimum, just because I need to stop and think about the idea you are communicating. I watch all your videos at 1x speed. For reference, you, and music, are essentially the only things I do that for. I literally watched Black Clover and college lectures at 8x speed XD It took me a good half hour to finish this content because there is so much perfection and in-depth analysis on the things that actually matter that it increases my quality of life on a spiritual level. Naruto is more than just an anime. It is a life experience :D
Fantastic analysis man. Obito is one of my favorite villains in the series and Naruto's line was indicative of Jiraiya's philosophy that "it doesn't matter how shinobi lives, what truly matters is how a Shinobi dies." (Paraphrased). Awesome and thought provoking as always spiceboy! Keep going! If you get the time, I would love to see one of these analyses on Kabuto.
I really wish the anime or manga would have added a small part that showed him hesitate a tiny bit when seeing Kushina or when he was about to stab baby Naruto. Just a slight moment like that would have been pretty powerful in my opinion
I really like when things are vague enough to be figured out and not just outright I know what you mean though and I don't think it's on an opposite side. Like one of the things I see a lot is how characters are misunderstood and even some flashbacks are misunderstood because they are stories. I don't think there is an issue with that and some people just need to learn to read or figure things out or stop spreading misinformation that ends up clouding these ideas even more even if they are more simple. I think it's boring if everything is spelled out and when you figure it out that makes it very fun.
@@zelz3011 I feel like it could be some vagueness in it still. Something along the lines of when deidara uses his last explosion and says "sorry tobi, you might be caught in this" and we see obito stop and look back but then keeps going. I'm sure he probably didn't care about deidara but it does beg the question of why include that scene, ya know
@@troy6646 Yeah that level of Vagueness is kind of cool as well but I also like when it gets a bit more vague than that. Anything past that level just becomes a mystery. The best I could think knowing how the situation went since I already see people have the headcanon of he took off his hood to see if Minato would recognize him is maybe a portion where we see him have Kushina and he's about to use his hand and it shakes and maybe a small mention to a flashback of this same scene later where he thinks something like "it won't stop shaking". Although if that happened we would proably get the implication he was mentally nerfed and then mentally amped once he resolves himself.
@@zelz3011 true, I think what I would do is have him say something like "of all those who could've been the jinchuriki it had to be you...oh well" or something like that idk
Such a powerful message and themes. This one resonates and may just be your best work today, which always seems to be how I feel when I watch your videos. I feel that catharsis from the death of Obito that only a great writer can generate. It is bittersweet. Excellent job. Keep adding the spice to this world my spicy boy!
You really helped shed light on this part of the Manga’s story. Back then, it was a time where everyone was either confused or downright rejected the idea of Obito being a “cool guy”. I sort of agreed with most of them back then. And that was really because I didn’t give it enough time to simmer in my mind and look at it from another angle. You helped expedite that process for me. Great video essay man
Obito gets too much shade. Yeah, everyone in Naruto's gone through grief. But when Obito went through it, he was offered a way out. He was a kid going through the grief of loss and betrayal, and was offered a way out of that grief. For that reason, Obito never had to confront his grief. He never had to accept it. He spent his life running away from that grief. The pain he went through was like a wound. Sure, a wound will heal without proper treatment. But it'll become infected. Even though the initial wound is healed, it's lack of proper care still keeps hurting you. And even if it did heal right, by the time he was an adult, he'd already killed his master anyway. He was in too deep to go back. Honestly, anyone would have done the same in his position. It's so much easier to run from grief than it is to face it. The only reason we face our grief in life is because we have to. And even then, people still find ways to run from it.
Good video dude....it's clear this manga/anime is not suitable for superficialist people who only watch series for fights. Naruto is more than that simple. A manga full of symbolisms and several character perspective point of view about life is something not every manga can show. It takes appreciation to those whose read the manga and understand what the play tries to transmite. Many characters are highly misunderstood by people because they failed to get what really happened as the story progressed.
Beautiful analysis as always. MangaStream was my go to also. I believe it was Wednesday evenings when the chapters would drop. I remember seeing like the last of the war arc, and the start of the final battle in one binge when I got back from my first deployment. I read the last chapter while getting ready for a late halloweeen party 😭
I relate a lot to Obito with my own life & your video made me tear up. You made me see angles of his characters I already knew but also that I didn't noticed before. Thanks for reaffirming my love to this character who's my favorite of all time.
Most people I know say obito just started a war because a girl he loved died and that's what his character amounts to. id never been able to work together what I liked about him but this helped a lot. ill send this video whenever people downplay obitos character.
I really hate when people call him simp by making a war and those are nothing but stupid statements from the fandom because they failed to understand the character.
You deserve SOOO many more subscribers, and I'm sure you'll get them one day because your content is top tier Also, what are your thoughts on Kaguya? That would make a good video
Hard AGREE. I swear that you don't have bad takes because you are genuinely a fan of the series. Not one of the many fake fans, or even straight up haters lol. People are weird. It's like they have never actually lived life lol
I wouldn't call Obito the greatest character in Naruto, but I will say that he along with Itachi are some of the most tragic and burdened characters in anime history.
Watching videos like these helps clarify the story’s intention and messages that most people I think didn’t get full picture because of the shows delivery
Tobi/Madara - Darth Vader Obito - Anakin Skywalker. In the case of Star Wars, Darth Vader kills Anakin Skywalker and still leaves a little Anakin Skywalker until Luke opens it again and while in Naruto Tobi still leaves Obito Uchiha in it until Naruto opens Obito Uchiha again.CMIW
amazing video brother i really loved it im happy you finally got the coolest guy hatred swatted as ever since it was first released ive been called a schizo for defending it and praising its deeper meaning and context.I really appreciate your content,mannerism and voice and i wish you the best in the future. Also based and kino ending part of the video really loved it i always had this thought and feel that naruto as a story is one that you get to understand and love and learn from it as you grow with it while it was releasing and grow old after it ending,i feel very lucky to have experienced this show ever since i was a child till it ended and can only wish other younger generations in the future could experience something like this maybe or be able to relive it.Cheers and God bless and take care and keep being the COOLEST dude ❤❤❤
Another awesome video by a youtuber who is nothing but awesome to me! It always bothered me that what made Obito start a whole war was that the girl he had feelings for died, at least that's what I believed for a long time. But watching your video I came to a realization of my own, that his love was never requited to begin with. Whether Rin lived or died wouldn't matter from that perspective because she would never be with him as a romantic interest. And he is shown again and again to be aware of that fact, which is why the "but Rin likes Kakashi" thing is important. So than his reason for losing hope would of course be different, that being that he lost his only source of light and hope.
there are some little things I don't like about how he was written, but I think the only thing that ruins it, is him being with rin at the end, thats just completely makes it a wet fart, in the storm games his death is was way way better, there was no heaven with rin, he just dies, and even better the last person he talks to is kakashi he puts his hand on his forehead and gives him his light temporarily. obitos death in storm 4 is just perfect, him having a happy ending going to ninja heaven with rin is completely stupid.
I believe that kishimoto wanted to give Obito solace after a long life of torment. But I also do see your point, it kinda defeats the point doesn’t it, I mean… Obito coming back to light on his own terms with the help of Naruto just to what? Just to end up being dependent on Rin for happiness and peace again? That’s back to stage 1 and we all know that he is no longer the same vulnerable orphan child that he was when he needed Rin. Obito received too vanilla ending considering the merit of his character and the conclusion he instead deserved.
Man, i loved Obito since his first unmasked shown! I always thinked he was a great character, and could see his arc since it started. I even thinked he should survive and become hokage instead of Kakashi, even tough i've perceived recently that this would be a flawed decision (This video also helped with maturing the two views)
both understandable since naruto see's a person who died who has same attitude and dreams like him it's just very terrible that obito was became crazy on the other hand itachi,sasuke and his clan were victims by shinobi system itself
@@binatog123Obito assisted in the Uchiha massacre. That’s like the child of a holocaust survivor saying Hitler was the best because he was once a kid with dreams of being an artist. It’s stupid
@@Cho0segoose I like how you completely ignore Obito’s last efforts to turn the tide (like sealing kurama back into Naruto, performing rinne rebirth, lending kakashi his visual prowess, etc.) yeah it was little too late the damage was already done, but like it or not it - without Obito - kaguya would’ve won
Bro it’s honestly scary how synced up we are on how we view Naruto. I’ve rewatched Naruto over and over again and while the fights are awesome moments like the obito one are what I have come to think as the heart of Naruto. That scene, Naruto’s Neji speech (also against the Neji was right narrative), Naruto vs gaara moment where he ramps up to protect his comrades, the zabuza grave speech and the gaara war speech are like the peaks of feeling the core themes in Naruto. They are rewatched by me wayyy more than any of the coolest fights (that are great and I do love) but the energy is different in those scenes
Listen my mans. I can agree that tou may not necessarily think about most if the big scenes in Naruto. But Rock Lee vs Gaara will always be remembered. Especially when paired with Headstrong.
This video is BEYOND GOLD .......... Obito is my man ..... he is truly something a dark hokage A hero who lost his way and became a villain due to nothing left He lost everything .... it's broken heart to be him and at the end he see someone he didn't expect to see She says I've been watching you all along He starts to break into tears uncontrollable So much PAIN ......he truly died granting Naruto as the 7th Hokage Fuck man .....wish Obito Rin Kakashi could be in the room with naruto sasuke and sakura Cmon we need a spin off naruto and obito fight side by side in another parallel world And nagato and yahiko and konan remain happy never became the red cloud akatsuki and kicked with their master Jiraiya But yeah still fucking hate Danzo
Adding to his nihilism is the fact that he probably knew he was being forced to comply with eye of the Moon or else whatever seal or curse Madara and zetsu implanted would take effect. I'm sure that was in the back of his mind. Just another fail safe in the layer of protection to keep him from keep him from being redeemed prematurely.
The “Neji was right” group, or Pre War Purists as I call them don’t understand the series. Hopefully the War arc will become more appreciated as time goes by. Kind of like the Buu arc in Dbz.
I still don’t love the “coolest guy” comment but I do think Obito is *objectively* very cool. Subjectively he committed many unforgivable sins, albeit as a result of madara’s masterminding and manipulation. It’s not that I disagree with the comment, but that I disagree that anyone should be saying it after all the crimes committed by Obito. The kamui fighting style, the way he utilized the rinnegan with the 6 jinchuriki, and the hashirama cells making him an absolute tank (survived rakiri to the heart, rinne-rebirth, and the extraction of the ten tails in succession, yet this is circumstantial as black zetsu kept him alive) make him a unique and interesting character. Also, we all love kakashi, and the plot twist that tobi-fake madara-“no one” was actually Obito was a little telegraphed but still very enjoyable in my opinion.
While it's great video as usual, I wouldn't go as far to say that saving the world was an afterthought to him. Or that his refutation line towards Kakashi is inaccurate. Like you yourself said, the persona of Madara the saviour consumed him. His beliefs were not disingenious and self-centred. Him extending his hand towards Kakashi in his dimension as well as Shinobi Alliance after using the God Tree, were signs of real compassion that he didn't need to show. My point is, Infinite Tsukuyomi are not pretenses he consciously uses to hide his selfish desire. It's a honest ideology that managed to successfully suppress the root of his suffering. Rin obviously was the trigger but it didn't stop him from fully adopting Madara's thinking along the way. Somewhat offtopic but I think the true biggest difference between him (as well as Nagato or Sasuke) and Madara is that Madara doesn't try to reject his selfish side. Of course it's easy to him, his wants boil down to fighting, which is easy to compromise with his selfless goals (although they still get in the way of each other). This is why Madara could NEVER be talk no jutsu'd. Even if Naruto watched his entire life unfold, it could never happen. Madara, unlike the other big 3 utilitarian antagonists, never rejected the part of him that wants to enjoy living. He never fell trap to basing his entire being on an ideology that distracts him from his trauma and loneliness. Nagato, Obito and Sasuke could be cracked with words for that very reason. Where as Madara, despite living by an ideology that he believes in, knew all along that doing only what you have to and not what you want to isn't a way to live for a human. That's why he embraced and basically personified human duality.
I’m not sure I fully understand your first paragraph but I ABSOLUTELY love your second paragraph about Madara. Madara NEVER lied to himself, nor hated others for what had happened to him like Obito, Nagato, and the rest. Madara saw the bigger picture that in the grand scheme of things, we are all losers in this game of life. The only time Madara felt joy in his life was when he was fighting, that was the only thing he grew up doing, the only thing he was taught, the only thing he had left. He had lost his family, trust of his clan, his best friend stabbed him in the back, all he had left was the fight, the only thing that wasn’t taken away from him.
@@charleschiemekaekeogu6908 "nor hated others for what had happened to him" - Well, he flat out admitted he waited a long time to take revenge on Tobirama for killing his brother. That's the one exception. But yeah, everything else checks. I think it's best seen when you compare scenes of all the 4 mentioned characters when they decide on their dark messiah path. Nagato after returning from Hanzo's trap fully commits to his philosophy of pain when he brings Yahiko's body to him, Obito says it doesn't matter in the slightest whether Kakashi lives or dies and steps forward following an extremist pragmatic stance telling to pursue that which is useful while devaluing the truth and finally Sasuke who decides to show the world how wrong it's status quo is by becoming it's necessary totalitarian symbol of hatred until the world's end. But Madara instead on his way out says he's looking forward to the battles he will fight with Hashirama. The original individuality and the idea coexisting. His beliefs aren't an excuse to execute his desires but he also doesn't commit to them so fully to blind him from his desires; most likely because he was already grown up and his cynicism developed steadily, while the other 3 had it all come down upon them to process in their teen years. Then again, I can't blame them. Madara certainly has a heart but it's his violent uniqueness that lets him achieve such an internal (though still imperfect) compromise. Something which those getting their hands dirty while dreaming only of peaceful, better life can never fully attain.
@@Reality-Distortion Madara DISLIKED Tobirama but he didn’t HATE Tobirama, Madara didn’t go out of his way to harm or take revenge on Tobirama. Even when the Hokages were revived, the first man Madara acknowledged was Hashirama, his old friend, not the man who k111ed his brother standing beside him. My point is Madara DIDN’T BLAME Tobirama for Izuna’s death, he just saw it as one of the consequences of their reality. Even if it wasn’t Tobirama, someone else or another Senju could have k111ed Izuna. In fact, the only reason Madara and Tobirama fought was because Tobirama literally attacked first and Madara defended himself. Even when Madara said “I’ve wanted to do this for a long time”, Madara also said “But you are merely a moving corpse so it’s hardly fulfilling”. Madara acknowledged the futility of it all and even explained his actions and plans clearly to Tobirama, don’t you find it ironic that Tobirama was the ONE man Madara took his time to explain his plans to (Apart from Obito obviously)? Madara didn’t have to explain himself to anyone, LEAST of all Tobirama but he went out of his way to explain his philosophy and prove he wasn’t doing all of these out of spite or hate for humanity or the world but as a cure for it all. A Cure for humanity’s duality and curse of hatred. There wasn’t a single contempt in his voice to Tobirama, just the hollowness of their situation.
@@Reality-Distortion Also, I love how you encapsulated how Madara could achieve an internal compromise between his desire for peace and his love for battle. Madara’s philosophy was built more steadily over the years rather than a singular catastrophe that caused a 180 degree switch in his beliefs. In fact, Madara is the only SYMPATHETIC villain in Naruto who you could argue was the SAME from his beginning to the end, he only matured which would explain why Hashirama could always recognize him as the same kid he grew up with. It’s really nice to see someone with a lot of appreciation and understanding for a character. I feel like Madara is one of those characters that are so cool and badass that it shrouds their depth to the extent that people fail to see how enriching the character is.
Naruto calls Obito out on this. He thinks he’s doing it for others when he’s actually doing it for himself. He wants to accomplish Infinite Tsukuyomi because he wants to reclaim the past he lost long ago, even if he says otherwise
The Ren watching him line kinda made me think: The existence of a canonical, pretty decent seeming, after life that's relatively easy to confirm sorta takes the wind out of project tsukoyomi's sails a bit. Like, Madera and Obito really out there wanting to make the Matrix when Heaven was just already a real thing that had pretty much what they wanted? Though I guess on some level definite heaven/heaven-analogues always ruin the stakes/logic/motivation of narratives involving death or suffering as a key plot point...
@Ilfat The Pure lands are textual in Naruto (I looked it up on the wiki to be sure XD) and it seems pretty okay overall. Maybe not an exact copy of the Christian Heaven or Hell, but none of the resurrected characters seem very shaken up by their time there, even if they can't remember specifics about it.
Keep in mind that they don't seem to have the same knowledge we do, and even then, the people who want "Heaven on Earth" are fanatical. For them the afterlife is not enough. One of them ran away from Death. So did others. the knowledge is more that souls exists, you can bring them back from... something, you don't know what, and that those souls do not remember the afterlife. The "not remember the afterlife" is quite common, was quite common. The ideea is that when you die you get knowledge way beyond that on Earth, and when you go back you forget most of it.
Only the existence of Limbo is confirmed, which seems more like an analoge for Purgatory than either Heaven or Hell, where those harboring regrets are trapped, and those who choose to stay to wait for someone else.
That’s weird and still doesn’t make sense because Madara has actually DIED TWICE before the Tsukuyomi so if ANYONE would know if there was a “heaven” or “hell” or afterlife whatever, Madara should have known about it. Man, just leave it under one of Naruto’s bad writing.
I kind of hoped that one day you could do a video on Obito & Kakashi and their "Masks"... Although I guess it's still possible. Obito the coolest Guy. ==== I really like this breakdown especially on the community the tombstone: "Neji was always right." Individuality that kind of helps me with my view... Claims to be no one. Wishes to be no one. Lost Light... Would it be different if anything were to change that's what I believe... That it wouldn't have the situations put into place wouldn't have mattered had no one been left or just another one. The whole point was to show the darkness that existed and try to shroud them within in it... Although they never truly would fall down into that darkness and maybe that's because even the man behind them thought that the darkness was the light and to a degree it means their views truly were always looking for the light in their own way. Maybe no ones too far off the light but simply have different paths of looking for it and whether we can put them back on the path of light depends on the "light" we are chasing. ===== I also really like this "Shortcut route" as it reminds of Naruto saying that there is no Shortcut to being Hokage and when it comes down to it the War arc does feel like it's about everyone fighting to become "Hokage". The dimension he went to or the dimension he was connected to. = This part of Obito vs Naruto and the hope that still exists. Stability and their will the thing that could be broken because they may have always doubted their path. ==== "Staying True." Such an interesting concept in the Naruto world. Madara & Obito the inability to escape the past. Something I can't escape either. Looking at the individual. Not the hate. Not at the person who killed his parents. Not at the person who killed so many. Not seeing them as a title. Not seeing them as a tool. Trying to look at "THEM". ==== I really like Obito protecting Naruto the one who nearly killed him at the start saved him at the end. ====== You have also shown that similar situations that happened to me have also affected you and many others with this community. Believing something the community started although mine wasn't related to lines like this or beliefs I guess except for Naruto not being an underdog, Rock Lee should be the main character, Hinata > Sakura in strength and most regards without analyzing the series, and a few more really I guess it related to certain views and the power scale was out of control as characters like Kabuto and people like that even Itachi, Minato, and many others were underrated and if you had a character that looked like fodder or didn't appear much or existed in a movie or filler they were also just seen as fodder without knowing the less you appeared and the less cool you looked the weaker you were or perceived as. Characters like Kid Lee would probably be some of the strongest Characters along with 1 Tail Naruto and CMS2 Sasuke. I think I played many fan games that depicted those being the big 3 but with what I know now about Scaling even that Lee with all 5 Gates might not even be in the same tier as 1 Tail Naruto. Also Kakashi might have sometimes been depicted above them because Jonin and Sharingan the power scale back then was so weird I guess because it focused more on opinion and people being held back by their beliefs that such power couldn't exist or if it wasn't shown to them in a form that looked cool then it didn't exist. Emotion swayed opinions and these opinions would be taken by others as either their own opinion or fact and these would spread as well creating their own effect maybe just a drop at the start, maybe rain later, maybe a wave? Maybe it became a Tsunami and drowned out the truth for many people. ===== I guess what I'm trying to say is that all of us stumble and might look at the world in ways that we don't wish to but as long as we can find ourselves then we can eventually stand up. Even if we need help to do it. And for me... It's nice to know that I might not have been alone in doubting my past but being able to get past it. = Sorry I'm quite wordy but maybe most of my words fall on deaf ears or just are not words that can "reach" anyone but maybe that's not the point of the words. Overall: A Great video.
Despair and Hope are two halves of the same coin. Without one, there is no other. If naruto didn’t go through with his pain he would have never become Hokage
One thing I also noticed was how in particular Obito died.
When Asuma asks Shikamaru who the “king” is on the shogi board, Shikamaru responds with saying that the king is the Hokage. Asuma then teaches him that the “king” is the next generation. The ones that will come after him and inherit.
Shogi is the Japanese variant of chess and just like in chess, the “King” is the most protected piece on the board. It has other pieces standing in front of it.
This neatly falls in line with Naruto’s evolved path to becoming the Hokage.
The Hokage is the one that walks in front, but why is he walking in front?? He is walking in front to protect those that will come after, the next generation.
In this regard, Obito’s death was a symbolic representation of this.
He died acting as a shield to Naruto, the representation of the next generation. If only for a moment, he walked the front.
He died as a Hokage should. Protecting the most important piece on the shogi board.
Then entrusted that same role to Naruto once his time had come, saying: "you better become the Hokage"
@@zararkhan3499 Brilliant
my hero died a hokage 😢
Tobi's ring in the Akatsuki was also king and he passed that then on to naruto
Obito was the best character. So interesting compared to others. I love him, I love all his roles, as the nicest kid in the village, to mentally destroyed teenager, a completely broken cold hearted villain and a villain who regrets it all as he is forced to remember who he was, and sees the hope he thought couldn’t exist in Naruto
Fear leads to anger
Anger leads to hate
Hate leads to Suffering.
Once we are hurt, we learn to hate
Anger and hate are supreme
Obito is my favorite character. I think the ending for his character could not be better. This is one of the best written characters in the anime. Thanks for the videos please keep making more
I feel the same
Now this is a SUPER SUPER SUPER DUMB QUESTION but did Rin ever have feelings for Obito or was it Kakashi cause I can’t remember?
@@Josh374 She had feelings for Kakashi
@@godiloveminininjas4278 it seemed she had feelings for obito in the end tho.
@@Josh374 She had a crush on Kakashi at first, but the end implies she also had feelings for Obito. I do believe that if he returned earlier and she survived they would have ended up together.
I have nothing but appreciation for the videos you put out. Naruto is a series whose legacy feels like it is constantly being trampled on and covered in mud by an entourage of a very vocal minority that completely disregards what this series has to offer below the surface. It feels almost poetic that a show that emphasizes the importance of looking beyond one's hatred and finding resolution through understanding more often than not is treated with contempt and misunderstanding by so many people. Nowadays, trying to create a conversation about this series to a wider group of people seems meaningless in and of itself - especially because you will get shrugged off with the standard "let people hate things" retort or get mocked with opinions that are in bad faith with no room for understanding, so I always feel very happy when I get to watch your videos where I feel like the series I grew up with won't be remembered as a pile of trash.
^ this comment exactly
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I honestly think Obito suffered from the sunk cost fallacy. I feel like at some point in his life he only pursued Madara’s dream because he was already heavily invested in seeing it through. I felt like in the back of his head he knew he choose the wrong path but he knew it was too late to turn back.
It's understandable since his dreams were shattered and the few people he cared about were gone.
Madara's dream gave a new purpose on his new life, even if it was in a twisted way
Yeah that's actually heavily implied in the Obito flashback of the attack on Konoha from Obito's perspective. It's actually blatantly told to us
Yes I agree, and I'd like to add that in the war arc it seemed like he wanted to be proven wrong, he kept asking for Naruto's motivations and stuff. Idk, Obito just seemed lil hesitant towards infinite tsukunomi.
Yes this along with having lost those most important, and then thirdly the manipulation and fail-safes that Madara and zetsu put into place to help further prevent him from going back on stuff. Obito knew about whatever seal was on his heart, I'm sure he was smart enough to realize that he was brought into the sway of Madara Uchiha who was pretty much the most powerful Uchiha in recent memory. Obito probably couldn't even grasp the amount of things that may have been in place, genjutsu, seals, traps that he could have fallen into had he decided to sway from the path. I think at the very end he realized he had his opportunity to take the reins of the plan that he had been working on for so long
Yea he literally attacked the village the year after rins death. Atp he literally couldnt just come back. I think if minato unmasked him there he would have given up. But as long as he could keep his identity hidden hed never doubt himself.
I get why a lot of people's knee-jerk reaction (including mine) to the 'coolest guy' line was utter disdain but I do also get that it wasn't Kishimoto saying "yeah Obito's sins are all forgiven." It was Naruto choosing to value the good in a person who mirrored himself in many ways and despite a lifetime of terrible choices chose to spend his last moments helping save the world. Given Naruto has seen inside Obito's heart this isn't a statement of blind naivety but informed optimism. Your Naruto content continues to be fantastic, I cannot wait for when you do the big bad Uchiha himself next.
That, plus when Naruto said he was the coolest guy, he was specifically talking about Obito, not 'Nobody'.
Obito wanted to become hokage, was an Uchiha like Sasuke, fell in love with Rin, was Minatos subordinate, and Kakashis comrade.
I dont know why people misinterpret this, when in the manga chapter, Naruto verbatim says: "As someone who tried to become Hokage...Obito is...nothing but awesome to me!!!"
@@zararkhan3499 Preach.
Exactly. And he did the same thing with Nagato. During the Five Kage Summit, when Obito criticized Nagato’s final act, Naruto defended him.
@@mannythegrandfather2291 Exactly, Obito even highlights that he finally gets why Nagato betrayed him.
wait is he doing Madara next?? How do you know?
Great video once again! Obito was developed in a period of the story were many people started to give up on Naruto, so he was bounded to be misunderstood. It's great to see the 4th ninja war be well analized
Some people refer to it as the worst arc in manga...I can never understand that sentiment, not even a little.
I say its the most misunderstood/misinterpreted arc in manga
"analized" Giggity
@@dafeels3085 LMAO
War arc wasn't so bad as many mainstream people say.
@@sachamarzullo It was never bad at all.
In the anime, its understandable why you would think its bad, cuz of pacing, fillers and repeat flashbacks, but manga didnt have these issues
The people who complained about this forgot what this manga is about.
It's not about the mindless punishment that our current society can only think about, it's about doing more than that, its about understanding others because everything has an origin.
Because it's when people feel truly understood, that you can get them to come back to the light again. Or at least you increase the chances of bringing them back.
For those who do not share the same pain, they will never understand true peace.
Even if you come to know pain, you may never truly understand it.
Jiriya's dream
it reminds me of fist of the north star when Ken feels pity for his opponents to a small extent
I think the best feeling there is is the feeling of being understood
that why naruto fandoms got most hated by other fandoms.They said the anime about overcome hatred but the fans totally more on revenge&hatred make other anime fans said to naruto community/hater/critic character as ironic.Naruto fandoms complain very much with concept.They like hype moments,character that deserve to be villain although it not about that at all,mostly they hate alien/kaguya concept,hate tragic&heartache for dramatic for character development.This fandoms the most toxic and obsessed with stories than other anime are.Even life lesson they didn't care at all.One piece is 2nd worst too.Most fans hate obito character no matter what either he was good or not.I can see the rotten heart they are.
Dude, I just want you to know, and I genuinely mean this so let this sink in. From the bottom of my heart... You are actually just straight up the best Naruto UA-camr.
Your editing, script, production quality are all elite. Even your equipment is clearly top notch. I can only hope to aspire to your level of quality one day.
I need you to know this, because this level of effort and talent deserves to not only be appreciated, but publicly praised!
YOU ARE THE BEST!!!
Agreed!
@@Tone_Of_Dials lmao please indulge me on your creative genius mastermind behind the omnipotent godly youtuber who will swoon me away.
I'd LOVE to hear it
@@Tone_Of_Dials lol OK well just lemme know xd
HotboySpicy, you are the coolest guy. Your videos never fail to send chills down my spine, and you somehow manage to encapsulate everything that I love about this series in a way I could only dream of.
I feel like the "Neji was always right" argument that critics of this series make was never truly grounded in proper analysis of the series. Your videos really inspired me to take the step to make a video on it, and although it's not perfect I'm really proud of it :)
The Neji was always right argument is wild because it's pretty much not his argument, it's the Fandoms. Neji's whole argument was that in order to become hokage you have to be destined for it, that we're all swept alongside the current of destiny and have to accept it.
The whole point of this scene is not to take his words at face value because they're coming from an actual hypocrite. If Neji actually believed that, he would NEVER HAVE TRIED TO KILL HINATA!!!! If that spiel was true in any regard to the series, THEN NARUTO WOULD HAVE KILLED SASUKE!!!! It's the biggest misinterpretation of the series for pretty much no reason............. I blame Lee fans🙄🙄
@@saucinreggie7900 When in doubt, blame Sakura fans
@@saucinreggie7900 People love Lee and try to ascribe him more, refuse to see faults with him and want him to be main character. One of the most wanted things I saw was for him to get things like Sage Mode. Thus they misinterpret Neji's outlook and actions. Combine that with ignoring plotpoints and some inherit brokenness... you get that argument.
"Neji's argument" it's broken by any instance of being wrong, no matter how and when, or by having multiple end points for one's life.
@@zararkhan3499 I actually really hate sakura haters because they themselves don't even seem to understand Salura’s charscters. But that'd the naruto fandom for you
Obito is awesome and the coolest guy I know. I'd buy him a beer.
Me too, bro, me too 😀👍🏻 he deserves it
Obito the best character in naruto imo
I was hoping you would one day do a video on Obito. I don’t know what it is/was about him but I always gravitated towards him as a character
Personally, to me, Obito is the coolest guy because he found the strength in himself after all that turmoil he had caused Naruto and accepted Naruto’s extended hand. From philosophical viewpoint, the main villain of the series was always Obito - not Madara or kaguya. Sometimes we really need to forgive ourselves before we can receive reconciliation from others. I hope this made sense but this is my take on what pulled me to Obito (kamui pun intended) 😁
Thanks for another excellent Naruto video. One aspect of the Fandom that I find irritating is the astronomical amount of people who think the memes and jokes are actually what's happening. No character has suffered through that more than Obito in my opinion, an I'm glad u touched on that aspect in this video👍🏾👍🏾.
3:30 - my most favourite moment where Madara smiling offers a helping hand while Infinite Tsukuyomi reflects on the moon and roots of the divine tree are coming out of earth
It's also important to take note that in the scope of the series and character itself Obito is not only Obito, he's Madara Uchiha, No one and Obito Uchiha himself.
His masks is symbolic of his many natures during this journey.
So when Naruto appreciated Obito he specifically mentioned the one who wants to become hokage aka Obito Uchiha.
Naruto being a mainstream shonen and something that can resonate with any ordinary person unfortunately isn't privileged to share these themes within the story and is often viewed with a lens of "realism" which is where people wrong themself. It does provide many lessons one can take home but understanding it's characters with respect to the series should also be acknowledged.
Sir you have definitely mastered talk no jutsu. You have fully made me recognise Naruto as the masterpiece it is and I thank you for that
I almost cry every time I watch your videos. You're doing great job, never stop. Your voice analyzing scenarios of Naruto sends me back to the memory lane and tears just start to fell off. Thanks for your job dude. Be happy 😊
Bro you are actually like top 1% of UA-camrs I swear.
I find myself rewinding the video and pausing it at least 10-20 times per video, bare minimum, just because I need to stop and think about the idea you are communicating.
I watch all your videos at 1x speed.
For reference, you, and music, are essentially the only things I do that for.
I literally watched Black Clover and college lectures at 8x speed XD
It took me a good half hour to finish this content because there is so much perfection and in-depth analysis on the things that actually matter that it increases my quality of life on a spiritual level.
Naruto is more than just an anime. It is a life experience :D
This guy? This guy gets it!
One of the most misunderstood lines in fiction ever!
Fantastic analysis man. Obito is one of my favorite villains in the series and Naruto's line was indicative of Jiraiya's philosophy that "it doesn't matter how shinobi lives, what truly matters is how a Shinobi dies." (Paraphrased).
Awesome and thought provoking as always spiceboy! Keep going! If you get the time, I would love to see one of these analyses on Kabuto.
I really wish the anime or manga would have added a small part that showed him hesitate a tiny bit when seeing Kushina or when he was about to stab baby Naruto. Just a slight moment like that would have been pretty powerful in my opinion
I really like when things are vague enough to be figured out and not just outright I know what you mean though and I don't think it's on an opposite side.
Like one of the things I see a lot is how characters are misunderstood and even some flashbacks are misunderstood because they are stories.
I don't think there is an issue with that and some people just need to learn to read or figure things out or stop spreading misinformation that ends up clouding these ideas even more even if they are more simple.
I think it's boring if everything is spelled out and when you figure it out that makes it very fun.
@@zelz3011 I feel like it could be some vagueness in it still. Something along the lines of when deidara uses his last explosion and says "sorry tobi, you might be caught in this" and we see obito stop and look back but then keeps going. I'm sure he probably didn't care about deidara but it does beg the question of why include that scene, ya know
@@troy6646 Yeah that level of Vagueness is kind of cool as well but I also like when it gets a bit more vague than that.
Anything past that level just becomes a mystery.
The best I could think knowing how the situation went since I already see people have the headcanon of he took off his hood to see if Minato would recognize him is maybe a portion where we see him have Kushina and he's about to use his hand and it shakes and maybe a small mention to a flashback of this same scene later where he thinks something like "it won't stop shaking".
Although if that happened we would proably get the implication he was mentally nerfed and then mentally amped once he resolves himself.
@@zelz3011 true, I think what I would do is have him say something like "of all those who could've been the jinchuriki it had to be you...oh well" or something like that idk
@@troy6646 I see...
I get goosebumps everytime i watch your videos. You bring it so beautifully
Such a powerful message and themes. This one resonates and may just be your best work today, which always seems to be how I feel when I watch your videos. I feel that catharsis from the death of Obito that only a great writer can generate. It is bittersweet. Excellent job. Keep adding the spice to this world my spicy boy!
You really helped shed light on this part of the Manga’s story. Back then, it was a time where everyone was either confused or downright rejected the idea of Obito being a “cool guy”. I sort of agreed with most of them back then. And that was really because I didn’t give it enough time to simmer in my mind and look at it from another angle. You helped expedite that process for me. Great video essay man
Obito gets too much shade. Yeah, everyone in Naruto's gone through grief. But when Obito went through it, he was offered a way out. He was a kid going through the grief of loss and betrayal, and was offered a way out of that grief. For that reason, Obito never had to confront his grief. He never had to accept it. He spent his life running away from that grief. The pain he went through was like a wound. Sure, a wound will heal without proper treatment. But it'll become infected. Even though the initial wound is healed, it's lack of proper care still keeps hurting you. And even if it did heal right, by the time he was an adult, he'd already killed his master anyway. He was in too deep to go back. Honestly, anyone would have done the same in his position. It's so much easier to run from grief than it is to face it. The only reason we face our grief in life is because we have to. And even then, people still find ways to run from it.
Good video dude....it's clear this manga/anime is not suitable for superficialist people who only watch series for fights.
Naruto is more than that simple.
A manga full of symbolisms and several character perspective point of view about life is something not every manga can show.
It takes appreciation to those whose read the manga and understand what the play tries to transmite.
Many characters are highly misunderstood by people because they failed to get what really happened as the story progressed.
Beautiful analysis as always. MangaStream was my go to also. I believe it was Wednesday evenings when the chapters would drop. I remember seeing like the last of the war arc, and the start of the final battle in one binge when I got back from my first deployment. I read the last chapter while getting ready for a late halloweeen party 😭
I'd say obi is definitely one of the most relatable
him&sasuke
I relate a lot to Obito with my own life & your video made me tear up. You made me see angles of his characters I already knew but also that I didn't noticed before. Thanks for reaffirming my love to this character who's my favorite of all time.
Great analysis, I always loved Obito's death scene too, and its great OST.
OMG your Naruto content puts so much into context that I missed. Thank you. Great content.
Everytime I think of Naruto Shippuden I think of Obito. Idk, i just love him very much
But joking aside great video as always!
Ik im late but what itachi says abt “you don’t know who u are until ur abt to die” rlly plays out doing the war arc
Most people I know say obito just started a war because a girl he loved died and that's what his character amounts to. id never been able to work together what I liked about him but this helped a lot. ill send this video whenever people downplay obitos character.
I really hate when people call him simp by making a war and those are nothing but stupid statements from the fandom because they failed to understand the character.
You deserve SOOO many more subscribers, and I'm sure you'll get them one day because your content is top tier
Also, what are your thoughts on Kaguya? That would make a good video
I talk about her a bit in my "Burden of Power in Naruto" video. But I'll probably be talking about her more in the future! :)
@@HotBoySpicy 👍❤️
Wow...just wow
I knew naruto has too much for us to break down but this much... youre awesome
Hard AGREE.
I swear that you don't have bad takes because you are genuinely a fan of the series. Not one of the many fake fans, or even straight up haters lol.
People are weird. It's like they have never actually lived life lol
I wouldn't call Obito the greatest character in Naruto, but I will say that he along with Itachi are some of the most tragic and burdened characters in anime history.
He is one of the best written too
Watching videos like these helps clarify the story’s intention and messages that most people I think didn’t get full picture because of the shows delivery
Obito is getting his ass beat by Kushina in the afterlife
Instant subscribe!! You’re an analytical genius
This was fantastic
dayum this is easily your best video holy shit
Tobi/Madara - Darth Vader
Obito - Anakin Skywalker.
In the case of Star Wars, Darth Vader kills Anakin Skywalker and still leaves a little Anakin Skywalker until Luke opens it again and while in Naruto Tobi still leaves Obito Uchiha in it until Naruto opens Obito Uchiha again.CMIW
I literally bawled by the end of the video. Thank you.
loved the part you said he looked past his hatred to see the individual
What an amazing interpretation... I too realized he was the most interesting character in the anime as i grew up.
Man this video hit in a few ways that just reminded me why obito is in my top 3 favortie characters, I love it
Love obito
obito is my fav character
I'm happy that searching "he was the coolest guy" results in videos about Obito
amazing video brother i really loved it im happy you finally got the coolest guy hatred swatted as ever since it was first released ive been called a schizo for defending it and praising its deeper meaning and context.I really appreciate your content,mannerism and voice and i wish you the best in the future.
Also based and kino ending part of the video really loved it i always had this thought and feel that naruto as a story is one that you get to understand and love and learn from it as you grow with it while it was releasing and grow old after it ending,i feel very lucky to have experienced this show ever since i was a child till it ended and can only wish other younger generations in the future could experience something like this maybe or be able to relive it.Cheers and God bless and take care and keep being the COOLEST dude ❤❤❤
Another awesome video by a youtuber who is nothing but awesome to me!
It always bothered me that what made Obito start a whole war was that the girl he had feelings for died, at least that's what I believed for a long time. But watching your video I came to a realization of my own, that his love was never requited to begin with. Whether Rin lived or died wouldn't matter from that perspective because she would never be with him as a romantic interest. And he is shown again and again to be aware of that fact, which is why the "but Rin likes Kakashi" thing is important. So than his reason for losing hope would of course be different, that being that he lost his only source of light and hope.
I hate obito slander. He's so dope.
Great watch and listen, good stuff bro!
there are some little things I don't like about how he was written, but I think the only thing that ruins it, is him being with rin at the end, thats just completely makes it a wet fart, in the storm games his death is was way way better, there was no heaven with rin, he just dies, and even better the last person he talks to is kakashi he puts his hand on his forehead and gives him his light temporarily. obitos death in storm 4 is just perfect, him having a happy ending going to ninja heaven with rin is completely stupid.
I believe that kishimoto wanted to give Obito solace after a long life of torment. But I also do see your point, it kinda defeats the point doesn’t it, I mean… Obito coming back to light on his own terms with the help of Naruto just to what? Just to end up being dependent on Rin for happiness and peace again? That’s back to stage 1 and we all know that he is no longer the same vulnerable orphan child that he was when he needed Rin. Obito received too vanilla ending considering the merit of his character and the conclusion he instead deserved.
yooooo my boi with the casual KOL roast!
dope, can't wait for more analysis content whether it be Naruto, One Piece, or anything else.
Please bro do an insight video like this about Madera, he’s by far the most misunderstood character in all of Naruto
I love that scene too, i love the idea that its never to last to try to change
Man, i loved Obito since his first unmasked shown! I always thinked he was a great character, and could see his arc since it started. I even thinked he should survive and become hokage instead of Kakashi, even tough i've perceived recently that this would be a flawed decision (This video also helped with maturing the two views)
Both Sasuke and Naruto cried the death of the guy who kills his parents.
both understandable since naruto see's a person who died who has same attitude and dreams like him it's just very terrible that obito was became crazy
on the other hand itachi,sasuke and his clan were victims by shinobi system itself
@@binatog123Obito assisted in the Uchiha massacre. That’s like the child of a holocaust survivor saying Hitler was the best because he was once a kid with dreams of being an artist. It’s stupid
@@Cho0segoose that's really dumb analogy💀 obito changed at the end even help team 7 to kill(seal) kaguya without obito the world will end
@@Cho0segoose I like how you completely ignore Obito’s last efforts to turn the tide (like sealing kurama back into Naruto, performing rinne rebirth, lending kakashi his visual prowess, etc.) yeah it was little too late the damage was already done, but like it or not it - without Obito - kaguya would’ve won
this channel really is naruto, the character we needed.
Thanks for this analysis. That line has gotten way too much hate and a lot of fans missed the point of it.
Thank you for the content on my favorite character from naruto
Finally someone sees what I saw all those long years ago
This video is exellent! This is a masterpiece!
Bro it’s honestly scary how synced up we are on how we view Naruto. I’ve rewatched Naruto over and over again and while the fights are awesome moments like the obito one are what I have come to think as the heart of Naruto. That scene, Naruto’s Neji speech (also against the Neji was right narrative), Naruto vs gaara moment where he ramps up to protect his comrades, the zabuza grave speech and the gaara war speech are like the peaks of feeling the core themes in Naruto. They are rewatched by me wayyy more than any of the coolest fights (that are great and I do love) but the energy is different in those scenes
I love your naruto analysis u actually understand the characters and the story Keep up the great work 🔥
THE COOLEST!
Holy shit his good almost brought me to tears
Listen my mans. I can agree that tou may not necessarily think about most if the big scenes in Naruto.
But Rock Lee vs Gaara will always be remembered. Especially when paired with Headstrong.
Keep it up! Love your content!
This video is BEYOND GOLD ..........
Obito is my man ..... he is truly something a dark hokage
A hero who lost his way and became a villain due to nothing left
He lost everything .... it's broken heart to be him and at the end he see someone he didn't expect to see
She says I've been watching you all along
He starts to break into tears uncontrollable
So much PAIN ......he truly died granting Naruto as the 7th Hokage
Fuck man .....wish Obito Rin Kakashi could be in the room with naruto sasuke and sakura
Cmon we need a spin off naruto and obito fight side by side in another parallel world
And nagato and yahiko and konan remain happy never became the red cloud akatsuki and kicked with their master Jiraiya
But yeah still fucking hate Danzo
I’m not crying I’m just finally perspiring
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!! YOURE SO INTELLIGENT AND AMAZING MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU BRO!!! UR EXTRAORDINARY!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Adding to his nihilism is the fact that he probably knew he was being forced to comply with eye of the Moon or else whatever seal or curse Madara and zetsu implanted would take effect. I'm sure that was in the back of his mind. Just another fail safe in the layer of protection to keep him from keep him from being redeemed prematurely.
Always look forward to your video analysis 🙏🙏
The “Neji was right” group, or Pre War Purists as I call them don’t understand the series. Hopefully the War arc will become more appreciated as time goes by. Kind of like the Buu arc in Dbz.
War arc has lots of the best moments of the show for sure
I still don’t love the “coolest guy” comment but I do think Obito is *objectively* very cool. Subjectively he committed many unforgivable sins, albeit as a result of madara’s masterminding and manipulation. It’s not that I disagree with the comment, but that I disagree that anyone should be saying it after all the crimes committed by Obito. The kamui fighting style, the way he utilized the rinnegan with the 6 jinchuriki, and the hashirama cells making him an absolute tank (survived rakiri to the heart, rinne-rebirth, and the extraction of the ten tails in succession, yet this is circumstantial as black zetsu kept him alive) make him a unique and interesting character. Also, we all love kakashi, and the plot twist that tobi-fake madara-“no one” was actually Obito was a little telegraphed but still very enjoyable in my opinion.
While it's great video as usual, I wouldn't go as far to say that saving the world was an afterthought to him. Or that his refutation line towards Kakashi is inaccurate. Like you yourself said, the persona of Madara the saviour consumed him. His beliefs were not disingenious and self-centred. Him extending his hand towards Kakashi in his dimension as well as Shinobi Alliance after using the God Tree, were signs of real compassion that he didn't need to show.
My point is, Infinite Tsukuyomi are not pretenses he consciously uses to hide his selfish desire. It's a honest ideology that managed to successfully suppress the root of his suffering. Rin obviously was the trigger but it didn't stop him from fully adopting Madara's thinking along the way.
Somewhat offtopic but
I think the true biggest difference between him (as well as Nagato or Sasuke) and Madara is that Madara doesn't try to reject his selfish side. Of course it's easy to him, his wants boil down to fighting, which is easy to compromise with his selfless goals (although they still get in the way of each other). This is why Madara could NEVER be talk no jutsu'd. Even if Naruto watched his entire life unfold, it could never happen. Madara, unlike the other big 3 utilitarian antagonists, never rejected the part of him that wants to enjoy living. He never fell trap to basing his entire being on an ideology that distracts him from his trauma and loneliness. Nagato, Obito and Sasuke could be cracked with words for that very reason. Where as Madara, despite living by an ideology that he believes in, knew all along that doing only what you have to and not what you want to isn't a way to live for a human. That's why he embraced and basically personified human duality.
I’m not sure I fully understand your first paragraph but I ABSOLUTELY love your second paragraph about Madara.
Madara NEVER lied to himself, nor hated others for what had happened to him like Obito, Nagato, and the rest.
Madara saw the bigger picture that in the grand scheme of things, we are all losers in this game of life.
The only time Madara felt joy in his life was when he was fighting, that was the only thing he grew up doing, the only thing he was taught, the only thing he had left. He had lost his family, trust of his clan, his best friend stabbed him in the back, all he had left was the fight, the only thing that wasn’t taken away from him.
@@charleschiemekaekeogu6908 "nor hated others for what had happened to him" - Well, he flat out admitted he waited a long time to take revenge on Tobirama for killing his brother. That's the one exception. But yeah, everything else checks. I think it's best seen when you compare scenes of all the 4 mentioned characters when they decide on their dark messiah path. Nagato after returning from Hanzo's trap fully commits to his philosophy of pain when he brings Yahiko's body to him, Obito says it doesn't matter in the slightest whether Kakashi lives or dies and steps forward following an extremist pragmatic stance telling to pursue that which is useful while devaluing the truth and finally Sasuke who decides to show the world how wrong it's status quo is by becoming it's necessary totalitarian symbol of hatred until the world's end. But Madara instead on his way out says he's looking forward to the battles he will fight with Hashirama. The original individuality and the idea coexisting. His beliefs aren't an excuse to execute his desires but he also doesn't commit to them so fully to blind him from his desires; most likely because he was already grown up and his cynicism developed steadily, while the other 3 had it all come down upon them to process in their teen years. Then again, I can't blame them. Madara certainly has a heart but it's his violent uniqueness that lets him achieve such an internal (though still imperfect) compromise. Something which those getting their hands dirty while dreaming only of peaceful, better life can never fully attain.
@@Reality-Distortion Madara DISLIKED Tobirama but he didn’t HATE Tobirama, Madara didn’t go out of his way to harm or take revenge on Tobirama.
Even when the Hokages were revived, the first man Madara acknowledged was Hashirama, his old friend, not the man who k111ed his brother standing beside him.
My point is Madara DIDN’T BLAME Tobirama for Izuna’s death, he just saw it as one of the consequences of their reality. Even if it wasn’t Tobirama, someone else or another Senju could have k111ed Izuna.
In fact, the only reason Madara and Tobirama fought was because Tobirama literally attacked first and Madara defended himself.
Even when Madara said “I’ve wanted to do this for a long time”, Madara also said “But you are merely a moving corpse so it’s hardly fulfilling”.
Madara acknowledged the futility of it all and even explained his actions and plans clearly to Tobirama, don’t you find it ironic that Tobirama was the ONE man Madara took his time to explain his plans to (Apart from Obito obviously)?
Madara didn’t have to explain himself to anyone, LEAST of all Tobirama but he went out of his way to explain his philosophy and prove he wasn’t doing all of these out of spite or hate for humanity or the world but as a cure for it all.
A Cure for humanity’s duality and curse of hatred.
There wasn’t a single contempt in his voice to Tobirama, just the hollowness of their situation.
@@Reality-Distortion Also, I love how you encapsulated how Madara could achieve an internal compromise between his desire for peace and his love for battle.
Madara’s philosophy was built more steadily over the years rather than a singular catastrophe that caused a 180 degree switch in his beliefs.
In fact, Madara is the only SYMPATHETIC villain in Naruto who you could argue was the SAME from his beginning to the end, he only matured which would explain why Hashirama could always recognize him as the same kid he grew up with.
It’s really nice to see someone with a lot of appreciation and understanding for a character.
I feel like Madara is one of those characters that are so cool and badass that it shrouds their depth to the extent that people fail to see how enriching the character is.
Naruto calls Obito out on this. He thinks he’s doing it for others when he’s actually doing it for himself. He wants to accomplish Infinite Tsukuyomi because he wants to reclaim the past he lost long ago, even if he says otherwise
Preach man
The Ren watching him line kinda made me think:
The existence of a canonical, pretty decent seeming, after life that's relatively easy to confirm sorta takes the wind out of project tsukoyomi's sails a bit. Like, Madera and Obito really out there wanting to make the Matrix when Heaven was just already a real thing that had pretty much what they wanted?
Though I guess on some level definite heaven/heaven-analogues always ruin the stakes/logic/motivation of narratives involving death or suffering as a key plot point...
@Ilfat The Pure lands are textual in Naruto (I looked it up on the wiki to be sure XD) and it seems pretty okay overall. Maybe not an exact copy of the Christian Heaven or Hell, but none of the resurrected characters seem very shaken up by their time there, even if they can't remember specifics about it.
Keep in mind that they don't seem to have the same knowledge we do, and even then, the people who want "Heaven on Earth" are fanatical. For them the afterlife is not enough. One of them ran away from Death. So did others. the knowledge is more that souls exists, you can bring them back from... something, you don't know what, and that those souls do not remember the afterlife. The "not remember the afterlife" is quite common, was quite common. The ideea is that when you die you get knowledge way beyond that on Earth, and when you go back you forget most of it.
Only the existence of Limbo is confirmed, which seems more like an analoge for Purgatory than either Heaven or Hell, where those harboring regrets are trapped, and those who choose to stay to wait for someone else.
That’s weird and still doesn’t make sense because Madara has actually DIED TWICE before the Tsukuyomi so if ANYONE would know if there was a “heaven” or “hell” or afterlife whatever, Madara should have known about it.
Man, just leave it under one of Naruto’s bad writing.
I love this video
I kind of hoped that one day you could do a video on Obito & Kakashi and their "Masks"... Although I guess it's still possible.
Obito the coolest Guy.
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I really like this breakdown especially on the community the tombstone: "Neji was always right."
Individuality that kind of helps me with my view...
Claims to be no one. Wishes to be no one.
Lost Light...
Would it be different if anything were to change that's what I believe... That it wouldn't have the situations put into place wouldn't have mattered had no one been left or just another one.
The whole point was to show the darkness that existed and try to shroud them within in it...
Although they never truly would fall down into that darkness and maybe that's because even the man behind them thought that the darkness was the light and to a degree it means their views truly were always looking for the light in their own way.
Maybe no ones too far off the light but simply have different paths of looking for it and whether we can put them back on the path of light depends on the "light" we are chasing.
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I also really like this "Shortcut route" as it reminds of Naruto saying that there is no Shortcut to being Hokage and when it comes down to it the War arc does feel like it's about everyone fighting to become "Hokage".
The dimension he went to or the dimension he was connected to.
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This part of Obito vs Naruto and the hope that still exists.
Stability and their will the thing that could be broken because they may have always doubted their path.
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"Staying True." Such an interesting concept in the Naruto world.
Madara & Obito the inability to escape the past.
Something I can't escape either.
Looking at the individual.
Not the hate.
Not at the person who killed his parents.
Not at the person who killed so many.
Not seeing them as a title.
Not seeing them as a tool.
Trying to look at "THEM".
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I really like Obito protecting Naruto the one who nearly killed him at the start saved him at the end.
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You have also shown that similar situations that happened to me have also affected you and many others with this community.
Believing something the community started although mine wasn't related to lines like this or beliefs I guess except for Naruto not being an underdog, Rock Lee should be the main character, Hinata > Sakura in strength and most regards without analyzing the series, and a few more really I guess it related to certain views and the power scale was out of control as characters like Kabuto and people like that even Itachi, Minato, and many others were underrated and if you had a character that looked like fodder or didn't appear much or existed in a movie or filler they were also just seen as fodder without knowing the less you appeared and the less cool you looked the weaker you were or perceived as.
Characters like Kid Lee would probably be some of the strongest Characters along with 1 Tail Naruto and CMS2 Sasuke. I think I played many fan games that depicted those being the big 3 but with what I know now about Scaling even that Lee with all 5 Gates might not even be in the same tier as 1 Tail Naruto.
Also Kakashi might have sometimes been depicted above them because Jonin and Sharingan the power scale back then was so weird I guess because it focused more on opinion and people being held back by their beliefs that such power couldn't exist or if it wasn't shown to them in a form that looked cool then it didn't exist.
Emotion swayed opinions and these opinions would be taken by others as either their own opinion or fact and these would spread as well creating their own effect maybe just a drop at the start, maybe rain later, maybe a wave? Maybe it became a Tsunami and drowned out the truth for many people.
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that all of us stumble and might look at the world in ways that we don't wish to but as long as we can find ourselves then we can eventually stand up.
Even if we need help to do it.
And for me... It's nice to know that I might not have been alone in doubting my past but being able to get past it.
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Sorry I'm quite wordy but maybe most of my words fall on deaf ears or just are not words that can "reach" anyone but maybe that's not the point of the words.
Overall:
A Great video.
First. I’m excited ❤️
True.
Kakashi ready to die for Sasuke doesn’t get enough credit
Dude suffered just as much as anyone in the show, if not more.
Bro went from: "Everything's all right 👉" to "There's nothing left 👈"
You truly understand Naruto 🔥🔥🔥
You better become Hokage...
I have to say this video was pretty cool, but now is it time to dance?
great vid !!
Despair and Hope are two halves of the same coin. Without one, there is no other. If naruto didn’t go through with his pain he would have never become Hokage
Obito is God level guys he isbthe best character in Naruto and coolest too
Great analysis
Goatbito